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Title: self-discipline
Post by: phattmatt on May 13, 2014, 10:01:54 AM
So obviously no one will hold a job, make a marriage work, have many friends, reach maturity, or support a family if they always speak what is on their mind or always act as they feel inclined to.

However, if an atheist is married to a christian or muslim she shouldnt always keep her beliefs or objections to herself out of fear of offending her husband.

I'm just curious of some of your ways of judging when and when not to excercize self-restraint.
Title: Re: self-discipline
Post by: Moralnihilist on May 13, 2014, 10:59:47 AM
Dont insult, preach, or mock your significant other. Expect the same from them. Also if your significant other is afraid to voice their opinions regarding religion or anything for that matter, then something has gone horribly wrong in that relationship.

My wife believes in a god, she isn't a churchy type of person but she believes. This is only one thing about her. I think its kinda cute and silly. She thinks me laughing at my own farts is kinda cute and silly. A healthy relationship is much more than having the same view on religion.
Title: Re: self-discipline
Post by: Solitary on May 13, 2014, 01:12:19 PM
Quote from: phattmatt on May 13, 2014, 10:01:54 AM
So obviously no one will hold a job, make a marriage work, have many friends, reach maturity, or support a family if they always speak what is on their mind or always act as they feel inclined to.

However, if an atheist is married to a christian or muslim she shouldnt always keep her beliefs or objections to herself out of fear of offending her husband.

I'm just curious of some of your ways of judging when and when not to excercize self-restraint.

You've said you were diagnosed as being bipolar, it seems to me, from your postings, you are more likely to have severe autism. Solitary
Title: Re: self-discipline
Post by: Jason78 on May 13, 2014, 01:56:51 PM
Title: Re: self-discipline
Post by: phattmatt on May 13, 2014, 03:55:09 PM
Quote from: Solitary on May 13, 2014, 01:12:19 PM
You've said you were diagnosed as being bipolar, it seems to me, from your postings, you are more likely to have severe autism. Solitary
I have been told I have autism but dont have the diagnosis.
Title: Re: self-discipline
Post by: KUSA on May 13, 2014, 08:27:40 PM
Matt you have batshititis. Trust me I am a doctor.
Title: Re: self-discipline
Post by: phattmatt on May 19, 2014, 03:26:04 PM
Quote from: KUSA on May 13, 2014, 08:27:40 PM
Matt you have batshititis. Trust me I am a doctor.
where did you go to med school I wonder?
Title: Re: self-discipline
Post by: AllPurposeAtheist on May 19, 2014, 03:35:34 PM
Bi-polar, autism, alcoholism, possibly suicidal... Dude, go look up social security attorneys and make a call.  If you can get to Columbus I know a good one.
Title: Re: self-discipline
Post by: phattmatt on May 19, 2014, 04:11:34 PM
Quote from: AllPurposeAtheist on May 19, 2014, 03:35:34 PM
Bi-polar, autism, alcoholism, possibly suicidal... Dude, go look up social security attorneys and make a call.  If you can get to Columbus I know a good one.

Only have healthcare in mn.  I know people here and even have a person acting as casemanager till I get a real one.  U r the only person i know in columbus.  How far away is it.  After i finnish step twelve and have a sobriety birthday and a job id be open to visit u.

Will look into ssi lawyer. 
Title: Re: self-discipline
Post by: AllPurposeAtheist on May 19, 2014, 04:19:40 PM
I'm not looking for visitors. I get enough clowns here at the Y banging on my door trying to sell me everything from microwave ovens to crack. I didn't know one damned soul here when I got to Columbus.
Columbus is about the same distance from Chicago is from Minneapolis except in the other direction so figure out how far Chicago is then multiply by 2. I just know the help is available, but they won't do it for you. Right now it seems you're expecting the help to just land in your lap. Try prayer if that's the case.
Title: Re: self-discipline
Post by: phattmatt on May 19, 2014, 04:28:10 PM
U just more than once suggested I go to columbus .  Np

I dont get u at all.  I'm looking for help.  If there is a shelter whete I dont have to put all my belongings in a bag and getkicked out every morning iI'll go there.  I'll also go to any group home, drug rehab, sober living, or temporary psyche ward.

I hope you stop saying I'm not looking for help.  Its getting on my nerves!
Title: Re: self-discipline
Post by: AllPurposeAtheist on May 19, 2014, 04:34:31 PM
The shelters here have lockers. You need your own lock.
I'm getting on your nerves? Awww...
I've lived in shelters so excuse me if I'm a bit skeptical of your bullshit Matt. I've only been around about 2000 homeless guys this past year and a half.
Title: Re: self-discipline
Post by: DunkleSeele on May 19, 2014, 04:46:23 PM
Quote from: phattmatt on May 19, 2014, 04:28:10 PM

I dont get u at all.  I'm looking for help.  If there is a shelter whete I dont have to put all my belongings in a bag and getkicked out every morning iI'll go there.  I'll also go to any group home, drug rehab, sober living, or temporary psyche ward.

Matt, did you really look hard for one of those options you mentioned there?

Let me tell you something: as I said, I've been lucky enough to never find myself in a situation like yours. Still I know that, should I ever become homeless, I would personally choose a shelter where I had to put my belongings in a bag and I'd be kicked out in the morning over sleeping outdoors. At least the shelter would provide me with a roof over my head for the night and a shower in the morning. Then again, it's your choice.

Title: Re: self-discipline
Post by: phattmatt on May 19, 2014, 04:47:10 PM
I lived in a shelter called ray of hope and even if you had to sleep on the floor you kept your bed and could leave your belongings and they would have incredible ways of making jobs fall right into your lap.  Id go to a place like that now.

At the gum there were lockers but they costed money and to get a locker you need to buy a bed as well.  I imagine it is probably quite affordable however.  I couldnt sleep at night.  I like the shower though.  You dont have to live there to shower

I'll look at the dorothy day center tommorow.  Will be on the streets tonight.  Maybe not tommorow.
Title: Re: self-discipline
Post by: phattmatt on May 19, 2014, 04:53:00 PM
Quote from: DunkleSeele on May 19, 2014, 04:46:23 PM
Matt, did you really look hard for one of those options you mentioned there?

Let me tell you something: as I said, I've been lucky enough to never find myself in a situation like yours. Still I know that, should I ever become homeless, I would personally choose a shelter where I had to put my belongings in a bag and I'd be kicked out in the morning over sleeping outdoors. At least the shelter would provide me with a roof over my head for the night and a shower in the morning. Then again, it's your choice.
yes I got to stay at a mental health crisis center.  Insurance only covers one week stay.  I tried to get an extension.  Impossible.  I'm trying to find drug rehab and rode the bus to a place where I could talk to a case manager.  I cld try harder but that doesnt nean I dont give a shit and am not trying to help myself.  Maybe I joined this forum for self hellp
Title: Re: self-discipline
Post by: AllPurposeAtheist on May 19, 2014, 05:33:39 PM
As far as I can tell nearly every shelter now days assigns everyone a case manager. Granted that most are slightly less than useless so it bahooves you to get on the stick, do the foot work, make the phone calls, whatever you have to do to get on your feet. Case managers can help, but if you don't put in the effort or just barely do what's required of you they sure aren't going to move heaven and earth for you. I've seen guys kicked out of shelters for real petty stuff too and learned that lesson myself before so behave yourself if and when you get in a shelter.
Title: Re: self-discipline
Post by: phattmatt on May 19, 2014, 05:56:37 PM
Quote from: AllPurposeAtheist on May 19, 2014, 05:33:39 PM
As far as I can tell nearly every shelter now days assigns everyone a case manager. Granted that most are slightly less than useless so it bahooves you to get on the stick, do the foot work, make the phone calls, whatever you have to do to get on your feet. Case managers can help, but if you don't put in the effort or just barely do what's required of you they sure aren't going to move heaven and earth for you. I've seen guys kicked out of shelters for real petty stuff too and learned that lesson myself before so behave yourself if and when you get in a shelter.

I'm on it!  Case closed!  Thank God!  Amen my brotha!
Title: Re: self-discipline
Post by: Solitary on May 20, 2014, 08:54:08 PM
Join the military, they're looking for a few good men. I'm not kidding. Free meals, clothes, and boarding, and you learn to have responsibilities. You want adventure and an income, and learn a trade, even as a hit man, this is where to go. They even give you medals if your good. And just think, if you are an officer you get your own gun to feel safe with. Solitary
Title: Re: self-discipline
Post by: phattmatt on May 20, 2014, 09:12:14 PM
Marines and airforce rejected me
Title: Re: self-discipline
Post by: Solitary on May 21, 2014, 03:06:39 PM
I can't imagine why. Solitary
Title: Re: self-discipline
Post by: phattmatt on May 21, 2014, 03:14:14 PM
Quote from: Solitary on May 21, 2014, 03:06:39 PM
I can't imagine why. Solitary
Id say "fuck you" but dont wanna violate rules.  Ur lucky!
Title: Re: self-discipline
Post by: Solitary on May 21, 2014, 04:46:53 PM
You aren't  :fU: He! He! Solitary
Title: Re: self-discipline
Post by: DunkleSeele on May 21, 2014, 04:53:14 PM
Quote from: phattmatt on May 21, 2014, 03:14:14 PM
Id say "fuck you" but dont wanna violate rules.  Ur lucky!
It's allowed to say "fuck you". :wink2:
Title: Re: self-discipline
Post by: Solitary on May 21, 2014, 04:57:25 PM
But is it allowed to say fuck your girl friend? I'd like to go down on her and have him watch!  :eek: Solitary
Title: Re: self-discipline
Post by: phattmatt on May 21, 2014, 05:24:26 PM
Quote from: Solitary on May 21, 2014, 04:57:25 PM
But is it allowed to say fuck your girl friend? I'd like to go down on her and have him watch!  :eek: Solitary
Don't say that again fuck nutz. I already told you she rejected my sexual advances.
Title: Re: self-discipline
Post by: DunkleSeele on May 21, 2014, 05:26:24 PM
Quote from: Solitary on May 21, 2014, 04:57:25 PM
But is it allowed to say fuck your girl friend? I'd like to go down on her and have him watch!  :eek: Solitary
Solitary, if you want to attack Matt, fine. He's here and can defend himself. Involving other people who can't respond in kind is quite cowardly of you. Just saying...
Title: Re: self-discipline
Post by: phattmatt on May 21, 2014, 05:27:19 PM
Quote from: Solitary on May 21, 2014, 03:06:39 PM
I can't imagine why. Solitary
believe it or not I got rejected from the army...guess when...TODAY!
Title: Re: self-discipline
Post by: KUSA on May 21, 2014, 05:47:24 PM
If you have any documented mental issues Uncle Sam is not going to take you.
Title: Re: self-discipline
Post by: phattmatt on May 21, 2014, 05:55:38 PM
Quote from: DunkleSeele on May 21, 2014, 04:53:14 PM
It's allowed to say "fuck you". :wink2:
It was a joke anyways.  I was like, "you're lucky" I can't say fuck you.  Lucky?  My ASS!  No one cares. Hehe
Title: Re: self-discipline
Post by: phattmatt on May 21, 2014, 05:57:02 PM
Quote from: KUSA on May 21, 2014, 05:47:24 PM
If you have any documented mental issues Uncle Sam is not going to take you.
I'm lyinh next time bitch!  The problem is they're going to figure it out too damn quickly!   :liar:
Title: Re: self-discipline
Post by: phattmatt on May 21, 2014, 06:09:39 PM
Edited this post.  I thought it was amusing.  Turns out it was offensive.  My bad!

Title: Re: self-discipline
Post by: Solitary on May 23, 2014, 04:52:06 PM
Then he shouldn't have put a picture of him with his girlfriend on the computer with him! Solitary
Title: Re: self-discipline
Post by: Solitary on May 23, 2014, 04:56:49 PM
Quote from: DunkleSeele on May 21, 2014, 05:26:24 PM
Solitary, if you want to attack Matt, fine. He's here and can defend himself. Involving other people who can't respond in kind is quite cowardly of you. Just saying...

Bull shit! He shows a picture of his girl friend on the computer with him standing next to him, if she wants to respond she can. Him and her are getting a big kick out of upsetting the forum which is trolling, and you are too cowardly to banned them after they say this about you: "fat hairy fuck with a furrowed scrotum!" . Solitary
Title: Re: self-discipline
Post by: DunkleSeele on May 23, 2014, 05:27:59 PM
Quote from: Solitary on May 23, 2014, 04:56:49 PM


Bull shit! He shows a picture of his girl friend on the computer with him standing next to him, if she wants to respond she can. Him and her are getting a big kick out of upsetting the forum which is trolling, and you are too cowardly to banned them after they say this about you: "fat hairy fuck with a furrowed scrotum!" . Solitary
You can send any complaints about me to the forum's admin.
Title: Re: self-discipline
Post by: Solitary on May 23, 2014, 05:37:26 PM
I did already proud asshole! Solitary
Title: Re: self-discipline
Post by: phattmatt on May 24, 2014, 05:44:55 AM
It was simply a joke because originally I thought that staff member was a women.  Sorry if I offended.

My girlfiriend had nothing to do with it.  I have much respect for the mods and appreciation for what they do