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Title: The Heresy of the Twelve Steps
Post by: AllPurposeAtheist on May 08, 2014, 12:34:13 AM
http://www.orange-papers.org/orange-heresy.html Pretty interesting stuff.. All those good xtians all heretics.  :naughty:
Title: Re: The Heresy of the Twelve Steps
Post by: AllPurposeAtheist on May 08, 2014, 01:03:13 AM
HA! This guy really rips on AA and their propaganda and debating techniques. I haven't read as much as I will, but when people start with extolling the virtues of AA and how AA gets them sober here's a site they should probably read if they're going to bother muddling through the AA "bible"..
http://www.orange-papers.org/orange-propaganda.html (http://www.orange-papers.org/orange-propaganda.html)
Title: Re: The Heresy of the Twelve Steps
Post by: Solitary on May 08, 2014, 01:38:01 PM
Twelve Steps?  :wtff: Sounds like Buddhism.  :lol: Solitary
Title: Re: The Heresy of the Twelve Steps
Post by: SGOS on May 09, 2014, 05:43:52 AM
I stumbled on the Orange Papers site years ago, but haven't been back there for years.  Orange certainly has an unflattering opinion of AA.  I think he/she does point out some real issues that exist in AA, although claims are undocumented and tend to be exaggerated, I think.  He tends to paint AA as a conspiracy designed specifically to perpetrate evil in the name of helping others.  I tend to view AA as misguided, rather than as purposely evil.
Title: Re: The Heresy of the Twelve Steps
Post by: phattmatt on May 18, 2014, 10:29:42 PM
Your higher power doesnt have to be god.  It can be oxygen, sunshine, water, or pussy
Title: Re: The Heresy of the Twelve Steps
Post by: AllPurposeAtheist on May 18, 2014, 10:49:35 PM
Quote from: SGOS on May 09, 2014, 05:43:52 AM
I stumbled on the Orange Papers site years ago, but haven't been back there for years.  Orange certainly has an unflattering opinion of AA.  I think he/she does point out some real issues that exist in AA, although claims are undocumented and tend to be exaggerated, I think.  He tends to paint AA as a conspiracy designed specifically to perpetrate evil in the name of helping others.  I tend to view AA as misguided, rather than as purposely evil.
I think it mostly depends on the chapter or whatever the hell they call them,  but I will say most are definitely willfully ignorant.