Hi! I know many people brush off everything you have to say when you use the name illuminati but don't sweat it I will call them by there real name the jesuit order.
I have looked into this military order of the catholic church but it's not an order any more they are the fucking church.
I can post some links and sorry there are some jesus shit in them but I have found real information on religious peoples sites but as all ways question everything .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04jTertpxz4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhoPTvXn_t0
the first one is long i watch up till he started about jesus .
and most of this is in libraries and in the catholic records .
these guy's are evil so too expose them is needed..
OH FUCK! NOT THE (cue scarey music) ILLUMINATI! :shocked:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-R2EmTQDkc
(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/1351058688/h6E80B175/)
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hahaha they're not call that any more but still exist that's my point but be "sceptic" all you want but as you all know all theories isn't just theories and most of there evil shit is public record that what they mean with occultism is in the library where no-one looks
Wrong. The Mormon Church is the Illuminati. They got secret handshakes and build temples and store houses to feed the righteous in the end times. So there.
QuoteQuote from: \"AllPurposeAtheist\"
The moral high ground was dug up and made into a walmart apparently today.
LOL.. I remember writing that once. I didnt know it made it to your sig though. :wink2:
just watch the 30 - 35 minutes of the first one i posted and see that these guys have had a looong time infiltrating everything.
Infiltration is there "ace in the hole" masters sort of speak.
Quote from: wavecollapse on March 25, 2014, 12:30:25 PM
just watch the 30 - 35 minutes of the first one i posted and see that these guys have had a looong time infiltrating everything.
Infiltration is there "ace in the hole" masters sort of speak.
Meh. Why don't you just tell us what's in there?
Quote from: Bibliofagus on March 25, 2014, 12:47:11 PM
Meh. Why don't you just tell us what's in there?
Shhhhh.. it's a secret!
Quote from: AllPurposeAtheist on March 25, 2014, 12:29:41 PM
LOL.. I remember writing that once. I didnt know it made it to your sig though. :wink2:
I didn't post much afterwards. Got a bit bored with it at first, and then I went for a 10 week holiday :)
Quote from: AllPurposeAtheist on March 25, 2014, 12:49:40 PM
Shhhhh.. it's a secret!
Or we are being lured into seeing subliminal messages in these films.
Well you're welcome to it or any of my dumb comments for that matter. They all have subliminal messages to send me your money. Now you know what happened to your bank account.
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You are welcome to it.
What's this? Another thread where if we debunk the points presented with evidence or point out the lack of evidences we'll be told that we're not true skeptics? Huzzah!
Can we have a poll?
Did you watch the video?
1: No
2: Yes
You can't put aside 30 min and want me too explain what is in the film? what if I am a lazy sod ain't got 15 min too write a list of stuff the is brought up ?
don't ask me do extra work , when the work is done all ready!
Then we don't watch it. We're also busy people who don't care about spending half an hour watching something that is most likely nonsense.
Quote from: Bibliofagus on March 25, 2014, 02:11:57 PM
Can we have a poll?
Did you watch the video?
1: No
2: Yes
3: Planning to maybe watch if I get drunk enough on limited alcohol supply.
Quote from: wavecollapse on March 25, 2014, 03:58:17 PM
You can't put aside 30 min and want me too explain what is in the film? what if I am a lazy sod ain't got 15 min too write a list of stuff the is brought up ?
don't ask me do extra work , when the work is done all ready!
No, that's not how it works. YOU came here posting some theories and videos, YOU must be ready to tell us what is in those videos. Simple as that. Put up or shut up.
Quote from: wavecollapse on March 25, 2014, 03:58:17 PM
You can't put aside 30 min and want me too explain what is in the film? what if I am a lazy sod ain't got 15 min too write a list of stuff the is brought up ?
don't ask me do extra work , when the work is done all ready!
If I have to choose between watching a long-ass video about stuff I've already heard and deemed to be bullshit, versus watching an equal-length Let's Play that will at least make me laugh, I'm gonna go with the Let's Play.
The Jesuits take vows of poverty, chastity and obedience. They're known for establishing some pretty good universities like Georgetown, teach tolerance of other religions, and emphasize liberation theology (liberating the oppressed). They have been criticized for pushing socialism and believe that education should be free. The new pope is a Jesuit.
Yep, Illuminati.
So the guy sitting on the (literal) golden throne of one the most powerful and rich organisations in the world took a vow of poverty?
At least I understand why OP doesn't trust the jesuits, then. :)
I went to a Catholic Church once. I was totally lost, a real fish out of water, not because I disagreed. I actually believed in God at the time. I just had no idea what was going on. People were standing then sitting, then kneeling, then standing. I was like the guy in the comic video that followed some hot chick into her aerobics class and couldn't keep up with the dance steps. In fact, the reason I was there was because a hot chick dragged me to it.
Not sure what this has to do with the illuminati, although it might tangentially relate to Jesuits, or not.
My mommy told me to avoid guys wearing beanies and colorful robes.
A friend of mine was a Mason. He invited me to join the organization one time. He even showed me their new hall or temple I guess you call it. I felt like I was being given a special privilege, although he was also showing me the place to see if I might be interested in finishing the drywall. It was a former large grocery store, but they bricked in all the windows so people couldn't see inside and watch them doing their secret stuff. As I recall, there was a large throne like chair near the middle of the huge room. I suppose it was where the grand poobah sat during special ceremonies.
My grandfather was a Mason. When I was a little kid, he told me their special greeting. It was something like "Hi, Hirum". I asked what that meant, and he smiled and said he couldn't tell me. I wasn't that interested, anyway, so I can't say I ever felt deprived over it. It's odd that I remember it.
I'm told that Catholics can't be Masons, but if I recall correctly, it's because the Church won't let them be, not because the Masons don't want them. You do have to believe in a higher power to be a Mason, although a tree or a forest will suffice, I was told.
How does anyone know they want to be a Mason? The organization is "secret" so you could never know what you were getting into. It seems like an organization for people who just want to join something; It doesn't really matter what it is.
:biggrin:
The first video's source is from "The Great Controversy" by Ellen G. White, one of the founding members of the 7th Day Adventist religion. I know this because when I was studying Mormonism back in the day, a coworker who was 7th Day Adventist gave me the book to read.
The source material for the second video is not identified to any group I can name, but it is of the same nature. Either you are a 7th Day Adventist or you found this religious gobbledygook and are pushing it on an atheist forum.
It is religion based bullshit, period.
Quote from: Plu on March 26, 2014, 09:39:56 AM
So the guy sitting on the (literal) golden throne of one the most powerful and rich organisations in the world took a vow of poverty?
For marketing purposes only. I'm sure he takes no pleasure in it.
Nothing to see here. the person that posted this is either a 7th Day Adventist or a conspiracy wingnut.
You guy disappoint me, dismiss directly sad sad
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignatius_of_Loyola founder
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Society_of_Jesus
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolfo_Nicol%C3%A1s the real pope
http://one-evil.org/content/entities_organizations_jesuits.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suppression_of_the_Society_of_Jesus
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vatican/esp_vatican21.htm#Chapter%2049
HERE READ ! it's not as in depth as the film but hey here you goooo!
Quote from: wavecollapse on March 27, 2014, 03:25:58 PM
You guy disappoint me, dismiss directly sad sad
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignatius_of_Loyola founder
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Society_of_Jesus
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolfo_Nicol%C3%A1s the real pope
http://one-evil.org/content/entities_organizations_jesuits.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suppression_of_the_Society_of_Jesus
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vatican/esp_vatican21.htm#Chapter%2049
HERE READ ! it's not as in depth as the film but hey here you goooo!
Meh. Not going to read these walls of text either. Especially since I don't know what I'm looking for.
Why don't you just post your best argument for whatever it is you are claiming and we'll take it from there?
My argument?
the founders of the society of jesus was Ignatius and Francis Borja (Borgia).
"Borja strengthened the already substantial powers of the Jesuit Superior General to be greater than any other Order in the history of the Catholic Church.
While technically monks, the Constitution of the Order was unique in that it exempted priests from the cloisted rule (i.e. living in monasteries). Instead, Jesuit monks were to live "in the world". Only the Dominican Priests who were the chief torturers of the Inquisition and the Catholic Church at the time had anything like such freedoms".
get it really nice guys and they're still around and infiltrating everything so they can obtain there goal total domination and power.
"However, the Jesuit Constitution from the very beginning went even further in that it permitted and even encouraged the priests not to wear the habit (traditional monk dress) so that they would "blend in" to the world".
Ignatius founded the alumbrados and guess how they are?
"The Official Press states Ignatius was called in question because it was suspected at the time that he was associated with this group". The truth is, he in fact started it.
they have had 500 years too infiltrate and indoctrinate and the wealth distribution problems it fit's like a glove too me.
these guys all the way from the beginning had this as goal but don't call the the "ILLUMINATI" the are the society of jesus now much more palatable.
if you can imagine the universe being infinite, how cant you see that at least some dude's call them what you want are pulling the strings right here on Earth.
and you could argue and say this wealth division would have happened any ways, and I say no i wouldn't.
Billions of people are asleep under the influence of religion and don't look furtherer then there nose.
as I wrote couple of lines before it fits too me.
and don't forget that the pope and his general are on trial in 4 days for child abuse and child genocide so these fuckers aren't your friends
I don't want these fucks too succeed everyone should at least know them and there history, and they're still around and super wealthy
We just went through this with a guy named Atheismofo about 9/11. Grow the fuck up.
Your source is a 7th Day Adventist based video. We are atheists. We don't buy religious bullshit, so just go away.
My my & goodness me!
Are these people influential in islam as well?
Quote from: stromboli on March 27, 2014, 04:20:56 PM
We just went through this with a guy named Atheismofo about 9/11. Grow the fuck up.
Your source is a 7th Day Adventist based video. We are atheists. We don't buy religious bullshit, so just go away.
You have to take information from all sources and then question everything you read or saw.
so just seen there name pop-up everywhere and the conclusion about the Jesuits are that they are evil as fuck and are still active and have infiltrated almost everything stop being a scaredy cat and start following the money there is nothing too be scared of aight !
don't piss on the messenger heard that before ? probably not because you have no manners telling me to grow the fuck up, why because I fell like this is important? because of some other dude/dudett didn't believe the official statement made by the Gov of US about 9/11.
It's actually the Amish. All the other conspiracy theories are true, bu at the very top of the pyramid, pulling all the strings, it's the Amish.
You are a conspiracy theory pinhead. Get the fuck out of here.
(edit) Not you, Jason. :biggrin:
You're rambling. People who ramble don't get taken seriously. Them's the rules.
After I retired from the Navy I spent some time at home, helping Mom with the increasingly loony y-donor. I took some classes at the local community college, brushing up for a run at Purdue. The Comm 101 class was taught by a Mennonite lady and we had text books we could only use in the room. (Saved us from buying them, but we couldn't take them home.) At one point there was a list of people with honorifics. One was Enzo Lucrian, or something like that, and the honorific was "SJ". Nobody knew what that meant, so I spoke up.
"Society of Jesus."
The teacher looked confused.
"He's a Jesuit."
She dropper her book and called for class to recess, and shooed everybody out.
The next time class met I noticed that the "SJ" line had been inked out. I silent sent kudos to the Jesuits for making people so scared of them.
Some Jesuit scientists
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jesuit_scientists
Including Andre Tacquet, who laid the groundwork for Calculus and Teilhard De Chardin, a noted Paleontologist.
dozens of them have done serious scientific work. They include mathematicians, seismologists, geneticists, paleontologists and so on. I'd say if there was anything good about Catholicism, the Jesuits scientists have contributed to human understanding.
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on March 28, 2014, 11:48:51 AM
After I retired from the Navy I spent some time at home, helping Mom with the increasingly loony y-donor. I took some classes at the local community college, brushing up for a run at Purdue. The Comm 101 class was taught by a Mennonite lady and we had text books we could only use in the room. (Saved us from buying them, but we couldn't take them home.) At one point there was a list of people with honorifics. One was Enzo Lucrian, or something like that, and the honorific was "SJ". Nobody knew what that meant, so I spoke up.
"Society of Jesus."
The teacher looked confused.
"He's a Jesuit."
She dropper her book and called for class to recess, and shooed everybody out.
The next time class met I noticed that the "SJ" line had been inked out. I silent sent kudos to the Jesuits for making people so scared of them.
That's really strange. I can only, once again, shake my head in disbelief.
Quote from: wavecollapse on March 27, 2014, 04:15:31 PM
My argument?
the founders of the society of jesus was Ignatius and Francis Borja (Borgia).
"Borja strengthened the already substantial powers of the Jesuit Superior General to be greater than any other Order in the history of the Catholic Church.
While technically monks, the Constitution of the Order was unique in that it exempted priests from the cloisted rule (i.e. living in monasteries). Instead, Jesuit monks were to live "in the world". Only the Dominican Priests who were the chief torturers of the Inquisition and the Catholic Church at the time had anything like such freedoms".
get it really nice guys and they're still around and infiltrating everything so they can obtain there goal total domination and power.
"However, the Jesuit Constitution from the very beginning went even further in that it permitted and even encouraged the priests not to wear the habit (traditional monk dress) so that they would "blend in" to the world".
Ignatius founded the alumbrados and guess how they are?
"The Official Press states Ignatius was called in question because it was suspected at the time that he was associated with this group". The truth is, he in fact started it.
they have had 500 years too infiltrate and indoctrinate and the wealth distribution problems it fit's like a glove too me.
these guys all the way from the beginning had this as goal but don't call the the "ILLUMINATI" the are the society of jesus now much more palatable.
if you can imagine the universe being infinite, how cant you see that at least some dude's call them what you want are pulling the strings right here on Earth.
and you could argue and say this wealth division would have happened any ways, and I say no i wouldn't.
Billions of people are asleep under the influence of religion and don't look furtherer then there nose.
as I wrote couple of lines before it fits too me.
and don't forget that the pope and his general are on trial in 4 days for child abuse and child genocide so these fuckers aren't your friends
I don't want these fucks too succeed everyone should at least know them and there history, and they're still around and super wealthy
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To the OP:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iubog28_KBI
I once sat next to a Jesuit on a flight from JFK to Rome. He asked me shortly after takeoff what church I attended. I said "None since 1958." He looked at me and said "That's my problem." Turns out he was going to Rome to get fired because he had decided he was an atheist. I invited him down to Sicily when he was done with the Vatican and we went looking for women. Some gals were freaked by his story, others loved it.