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Extraordinary Claims => Religion General Discussion => Other Religions => Topic started by: Glitch on March 20, 2014, 09:36:10 PM

Title: Jedis.
Post by: Glitch on March 20, 2014, 09:36:10 PM
So I had a question for you guys.

I've been an Atheist for a while now, and recently my boyfriend admitted that he's not an Atheist, but believes in the religion of the Jedis... even though he's a Sith Lord and all that.

Yes, Star Wars.

Anyways, I was just curious at to what you guys thought of this?

I actually can appreciate this... I guess religious view, because there's no "god" there's just The Force.
Title: Re: Jedis.
Post by: stromboli on March 20, 2014, 10:02:11 PM
The Force, i.e. some mystical spiritual energy isn't that far off from Deism or other beliefs, like Ki in martial arts. An energy that binds the universe together is not really that weird. If you think about it, it lends itself to a lot of spiritual beliefs.
Title: Re: Jedis.
Post by: wolf39us on March 20, 2014, 10:03:17 PM
Quote from: Glitch on March 20, 2014, 09:36:10 PM
So I had a question for you guys.

I've been an Atheist for a while now, and recently my boyfriend admitted that he's not an Atheist, but believes in the religion of the Jedis... even though he's a Sith Lord and all that.

Yes, Star Wars.

Anyways, I was just curious at to what you guys thought of this?

I actually can appreciate this... I guess religious view, because there's no "god" there's just The Force.

Never question the force
Title: Re: Jedis.
Post by: aitm on March 20, 2014, 10:21:37 PM
If he is serious....yeah, I think it's time you spread your wings and flew about a little eh?
Title: Re: Jedis.
Post by: Glitch on March 21, 2014, 12:13:36 AM
Quote from: wolf39us on March 20, 2014, 10:03:17 PM
Never question the force

I just noticed you profile picture and died from laughing too hard.

And I shall never question it :I
Title: Re: Jedis.
Post by: Plu on March 21, 2014, 08:43:40 AM
I have no idea what the tenets of Jedi'ism are. But if it doesn't feature any gods, then your boyfriend is still an atheist you know. He's just both Jedi'ist and atheist, those are then apparently perfectly compatible.

Kinda like how I sometimes tell people I'm Pastafarian, but since I don't actually believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster I'm also still an atheist. (Belief in the Flying Spaghetti Monster is not one of the requirements of being a Pastafarian, fortunately)

That said; it depends on how serious he is whether or not this would be a good thing. Jedi'ism might very well be a good philosophy to follow (based on whatever rules it has) but if he believes the Force as portrayed in Star Wars is real you should maybe explain to him that not everything you see on television is real. Especially reality tv has a track record of being bogus, but many movies are also not entirely true stories.
Title: Re: Jedis.
Post by: Jason78 on March 21, 2014, 09:13:27 AM
I knew loads of people that put Jedi down for religion on the last census. 
Title: Re: Jedis.
Post by: stromboli on March 21, 2014, 10:19:34 AM
Are we talking Light Sabre, robes and everything or just mindset? Going the Full Monty might get a little weird....
Title: Re: Jedis.
Post by: Jason78 on March 21, 2014, 11:57:46 AM
The Full Monty was a completely different movie...
Title: Re: Jedis.
Post by: Moralnihilist on March 21, 2014, 12:44:45 PM
Quote from: Glitch on March 20, 2014, 09:36:10 PM
So I had a question for you guys.

I've been an Atheist for a while now, and recently my boyfriend admitted that he's not an Atheist, but believes in the religion of the Jedis... even though he's a Sith Lord and all that.

Yes, Star Wars.

Anyways, I was just curious at to what you guys thought of this?

I actually can appreciate this... I guess religious view, because there's no "god" there's just The Force.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11Ee02WLxGk


I can't be the only nerd who went here mentally.
Title: Re: Jedis.
Post by: stromboli on March 21, 2014, 02:42:08 PM
Quote from: Jason78 on March 21, 2014, 11:57:46 AM
The Full Monty was a completely different movie...


The full monty is a British slang (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slang) phrase of uncertain origin. It is generally used to mean "everything which is necessary, appropriate, or possible; ‘the works’",[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full_monty_(phrase)#cite_note-oed-1) and has been in common usage in the north of England (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_England) for many years; the 1982 Yellow Pages for Manchester listed both a "Full Monty Chippy" and a "Fullmonty Chippy".[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full_monty_(phrase)#cite_note-listserv-2) A US equivalent might be the phrase "the whole nine yards (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_whole_nine_yards)", "the whole ball of wax", "the whole enchilada", or "the whole shebang".


This is where they got the movie title from. For the unlearned. :axe:
Title: Re: Jedis.
Post by: Glitch on March 21, 2014, 06:01:30 PM
Quote from: stromboli on March 21, 2014, 10:19:34 AM
Are we talking Light Sabre, robes and everything or just mindset? Going the Full Monty might get a little weird....

Like so?
Title: Re: Jedis.
Post by: Glitch on March 21, 2014, 06:04:50 PM
And as far as like.. Star Wars force status (you know, lifting people with your hand from 10 feet away and throwing them through the window of your space ship while going hyper-speed) he doesn't think you can do that at all. But he does think the force does exist as a thing to keep all things in harmony kind of deal. Like so birds can somehow find where they live, and we can find where we live, or that whole "6th sense" deal. Like when you "feel" somebody staring at you from the back of the train.
Title: Re: Jedis.
Post by: Shadow Fox on May 01, 2014, 01:50:14 AM
I am not quite sure what to think about this one.

Its basically a religion for people who think psychic powers, magic exists. Its just silly.

At the very least. Its more peaceful than some other religions. Wars Created by Christians: Nearly all of them | Wars created by Jedi religion = 0

lol.
Title: Re: Jedis.
Post by: stromboli on May 01, 2014, 01:52:48 AM
Ask Casparov.
Title: Re: Jedis.
Post by: Hydra009 on May 01, 2014, 02:08:04 AM
Han Solo: Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid.

Luke Skywalker: You don't believe in the Force, do you?

Han Solo: Kid, I've flown from one side of this galaxy to the other. I've seen a lot of strange stuff, but I've never seen anything to make me believe there's one all-powerful force controlling everything. There's no mystical energy field that controls my destiny.
Title: Re: Jedis.
Post by: stromboli on May 01, 2014, 02:20:20 AM
Quote from: Hydra009 on May 01, 2014, 02:08:04 AM
Han Solo: Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid.

Luke Skywalker: You don't believe in the Force, do you?

Han Solo: Kid, I've flown from one side of this galaxy to the other. I've seen a lot of strange stuff, but I've never seen anything to make me believe there's one all-powerful force controlling everything. There's no mystical energy field that controls my destiny.

Yeah, and not only that, Han is probably boinking Leia as we speak.
Title: Re: Jedis.
Post by: Mr.Obvious on May 01, 2014, 04:08:37 AM
Quote from: Shadow Fox on May 01, 2014, 01:50:14 AM

At the very least. Its more peaceful than some other religions. Wars Created by Christians: Nearly all of them | Wars created by Jedi religion = 0

lol.

Dude, did you not see the documentaries? They are involved in so many wars.
Check out these documentaries and see if they change your mind: The Phantom Menace, Attack of the Clones, Revenge of the Sith, A New Hope, The Empire Strikes Back & Return of the Jedi.

Warfare on a galactic scale! Jedi-ism has some dark chapters man.
Title: Re: Jedis.
Post by: MagetheEntertainer on June 28, 2014, 02:36:15 PM
Isn't Jedis like a nerdy version of bhuddism
Title: Re: Jedis.
Post by: stromboli on June 28, 2014, 02:59:25 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Force_(Star_Wars)#Origin

QuoteLucas has attributed the origins of "The Force" to a 1963 abstract film by Arthur Lipsett, which sampled from many sources.

One of the audio sources Lipsett sampled for 21-87 was a conversation between artificial intelligence pioneer Warren S. McCulloch and Roman Kroitor, a cinematographer who went on to develop IMAX. In the face of McCulloch's arguments that living beings are nothing but highly complex machines, Kroitor insists that there is something more: "Many people feel that in the contemplation of nature and in communication with other living things, they become aware of some kind of force, or something, behind this apparent mask which we see in front of us, and they call it God."

When asked if this was the source of "the Force," Lucas confirms that his use of the term in Star Wars was "an echo of that phrase in 21-87." The idea behind it, however, was universal: "Similar phrases have been used extensively by many different people for the last 13,000 years to describe the 'life force,'" he says.[1]
Title: Re: Jedis.
Post by: Green Bottle on June 30, 2014, 12:18:40 PM
(http://i61.tinypic.com/2aetkcj.jpg)
Title: Re: Jedis.
Post by: Nam on July 05, 2014, 12:43:03 AM
I'm on the Dark side.

-Darth Nam
Title: Re: Jedis.
Post by: robert04330 on July 05, 2014, 04:22:17 AM
its a movie... The End
Title: Re: Jedis.
Post by: EvanGalea on October 07, 2014, 02:31:17 PM
I wonder what these guys do on May 4th.