This is some really scary shit.
This is why I hate religion and the followers that have no tolerance for anyone else's beliefs and preach hatred based on Scripture. These are the most ignorant people I have heard since the Christian fund'mental"ist in the South. Solitary
Islam is just another religion, no more deserving of special consideration than any other religion in societies evolving toward freedom and tolerance.
Yup, they won't stop til they can sit in the government, making policy and applying their nonsenses to all aspects of your life, until your country becomes a stupid country like mine. Please don't let that happen. I still remember the speech an Imam gave us in Friday prayer, There will be no peace until all the world becomes Islam/Muslims. To think that I went along cheering that with Allahuakbar makes me cringe now.
Quote from: StupidWiz on March 18, 2014, 12:22:47 PM
Yup, they won't stop til they can sit in the government, making policy and applying their nonsenses to all aspects of your life, until your country becomes a stupid country like mine. Please don't let that happen. I still remember the speech an Imam gave us in Friday prayer, There will be no peace until all the world becomes Islam/Muslims. To think that I went along cheering that with Allahuakbar makes me cringe now.
Don't feel too bad, you were just doing what was needed to keep safe.
Quote from: The Skeletal Atheist on March 18, 2014, 12:25:09 PM
Don't feel too bad, you were just doing what was needed to keep safe.
The thing is I was genuinely excited and full of passion when hearing that speech. I was still in the clutches of Islam back then...
Quote from: StupidWiz on March 18, 2014, 12:27:29 PM
The thing is I was genuinely excited and full of passion when hearing that speech. I was still in the clutches of Islam back then...
Oh. Well at least you're past that.
Quote from: The Skeletal Atheist on March 18, 2014, 12:43:43 PM
Oh. Well at least you're past that.
Yeah, but the thought of Wiz being that way in the past still gives me the heebee jeebees.
Quote from: SGOS on March 18, 2014, 11:39:02 AM
Islam is just another religion, no more deserving of special consideration than any other religion in societies evolving toward freedom and tolerance.
I think you might want to reconsider that. There are a lot of nasty things in Islam that aren't found in Christianity or Judaism (or if they are found they are of far lesser extent).
They see the UK state as illegitimate and not to be obeyed but they have absolutely no problem in reaping the benefits of living in the UK, such as access to our healthcare service, which while not perfect is still excellent compared to the rest of the world, fair legal treatment, laws protecting them from oppression and harassment, the freedom to practice their religion and all of the other things that make someone with UK citizenship EXTREMELY lucky and privileged compared to a lot of people all over the world who do not have access to these wonderful things that we sometimes even take for granted.
If they truly wanted to reject the UK state, and live under Islamic law, then not only would they refuse to take part completely and not take advantage of the GREAT things about UK residency, but they would also leave. There are plenty of countries with systems of governance just like the ones they would like to live under.
If you don't like the UK, nobody is forcing you to live here.
Fortunately, not all of the UK is like this, some towns such as Luton are now to be completely avoided, but there are still lovely parts.
Quote from: SGOS on March 18, 2014, 12:46:21 PM
Yeah, but the thought of Wiz being that way in the past still gives me the heebee jeebees.
The power of indoctrination, continually brainwashing systematically constructed to the education system here in my country. From Islamic kindergarten to Islamic college. Even some state university is already tainted by the values of Islam that are pushed consistently into all of college organizations and extracurricular. The religious dogma has infiltrated all aspects of the life of my countrymen, politics, economics, entertainment, education, culture, media etc.Wherever you go, you'll surely meet an element of Islam everywhere. The situation is already bleak over here, though there are some people who keeps resisting these religious dogma, it's not enough to eradicate even just half of it.
So, wherever you are all over the world, please don't let Muslims do this to your beloved country. I can see the struggle against Christianity in the US, and it is a good thing, but I wanna say beware and stay vigilant for the infiltration of Islam.
Quote from: StupidWiz on March 19, 2014, 02:31:39 AM
So, wherever you are all over the world, please don't let Muslims do this to your beloved country. I can see the struggle against Christianity in the US, and it is a good thing, but I wanna say beware and stay vigilant for the infiltration of Islam.
There's certainly a trend in Europe and even the US to make various accommodations for Islam (whether or not a Muslim asks for it by the way) but if you point that out and challenge it you get called "Islamophobic", "racist", "McCarthyist", "paranoid" etc. Recently Cameron for example announced he wants Britain to get more involved in Sharia-finance. It's like they don't realize the consequences long-term and their (mostly secular "post-Christian") culture is slowly being subverted through a very slow gradual process, a good part of which is self-inflicted. They also have a system of arbitration that has lead to the creation of Sharia courts on civil matters.
Quote from: StupidWiz on March 19, 2014, 02:31:39 AM
The power of indoctrination, continually brainwashing systematically constructed to the education system here in my country. From Islamic kindergarten to Islamic college. Even some state university is already tainted by the values of Islam that are pushed consistently into all of college organizations and extracurricular. The religious dogma has infiltrated all aspects of the life of my countrymen, politics, economics, entertainment, education, culture, media etc.Wherever you go, you'll surely meet an element of Islam everywhere. The situation is already bleak over here, though there are some people who keeps resisting these religious dogma, it's not enough to eradicate even just half of it.
So, wherever you are all over the world, please don't let Muslims do this to your beloved country. I can see the struggle against Christianity in the US, and it is a good thing, but I wanna say beware and stay vigilant for the infiltration of Islam.
Only way for a Muslim to advance is through Islam. In this world and the next. If the entire world convert to islam, there will be eternal peace. everyone now's that, even the infedels. The infedels are just evil, they don't want peace, they want destruction of human decency, like making women wear anything less than a tent.
In Germany they wear tight pants or even less. I mean you can actually see there awesome bums.
This must not be tolerated.
I should spread message of peace. Force them to convert, you know. I mean Islam is the only thing that truely respects women, right
StupidWiz wanna help! i could use international contacts for this, especially from Indonesia.
Quote from: VladK on March 19, 2014, 07:53:22 AM
There's certainly a trend in Europe and even the US to make various accommodations for Islam (whether or not a Muslim asks for it by the way) but if you point that out and challenge it you get called "Islamophobic", "racist", "McCarthyist", "paranoid" etc. Recently Cameron for example announced he wants Britain to get more involved in Sharia-finance. It's like they don't realize the consequences long-term and their (mostly secular "post-Christian") culture is slowly being subverted through a very slow gradual process, a good part of which is self-inflicted. They also have a system of arbitration that has lead to the creation of Sharia courts on civil matters.
I know, it's a sad reality that we, ex-Muslims are facing right now. The least we can do is just warn them, if they don't want to hear it and accuse us for being racist (like Islam is a race? lol :eyes: ) and "Islamophobic" (another word invented to shame the critics of Islam) , well, it's their call. We can only do that much.
Quote from: CloneKai on March 19, 2014, 01:16:18 PM
Only way for a Muslim to advance is through Islam. In this world and the next. If the entire world convert to islam, there will be eternal peace. everyone now's that, even the infedels. The infedels are just evil, they don't want peace, they want destruction of human decency, like making women wear anything less than a tent.
In Germany they wear tight pants or even less. I mean you can actually see there awesome bums.
This must not be tolerated.
I should spread message of peace. Force them to convert, you know. I mean Islam is the only thing that truely respects women, right
StupidWiz wanna help! i could use international contacts for this, especially from Indonesia.
Yes, the West is evil and should not be tolerated. Their lifestyle is an abomination to Islamic values. don't worry brother, we, Indonesians, always have your back in spreading Islam. Islam is the religion of peace!!! Allahuakbar!
Quote from: StupidWiz on March 19, 2014, 07:39:14 PM
Yes, the West is evil and should not be tolerated. Their lifestyle is an abomination to Islamic values. don't worry brother, we, Indonesians, always have your back in spreading Islam. Islam is the religion of peace!!! Allahuakbar!
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I remember a couple years ago, I went to an amusement park, by accident, on "Muslim Day" (I don't know, they totally did not advertise this on their site...) and I was literally shoved to the back of lines, called an inconsiderate, half-naked temptress (mind you I was wearing a long sleeve shirt and pants!!), and a "B" several times. Security couldn't help me because they felt they were "expressing their freedom of thought"...
Yeah... don't shove 16 year old girls to the back of lines that they had been waiting in for almost 2 hours... It's really not nice.
I have to admit, though I hate to, a great deal of Islam followers, at least the ones I've had run ins with, are very inconsiderate to other cultures.
Though, I also have to admit, I have a few very close friends who do, very loosely, follow the Islamic faith.
Quote from: Glitch on March 20, 2014, 05:35:40 AM
I remember a couple years ago, I went to an amusement park, by accident, on "Muslim Day" (I don't know, they totally did not advertise this on their site...) and I was literally shoved to the back of lines, called an inconsiderate, half-naked temptress (mind you I was wearing a long sleeve shirt and pants!!), and a "B" several times. Security couldn't help me because they felt they were "expressing their freedom of thought"...
Yeah... don't shove 16 year old girls to the back of lines that they had been waiting in for almost 2 hours... It's really not nice.
I have to admit, though I hate to, a great deal of Islam followers, at least the ones I've had run ins with, are very inconsiderate to other cultures.
Though, I also have to admit, I have a few very close friends who do, very loosely, follow the Islamic faith.
Muslim Day or not, this does not speak well for the so called "most Muslims" that political correctness says defines actual Islam. At an amusement park, I would assume you are dealing with "most Muslims". The very idea of "Muslim Day" suggests a day for people who cannot fit in with regular society. Is this something society needs to promote?
But then, by accident you went to Muslim Day. So you get a snoot full of what Muslims think about you and your culture. They hate you, don't want you around, and they want to oppress you with the pettiness of going to the back of the line. Welcome to "most Muslims" that political correctness says you should believe are really swell people.
Quote from: drunkenshoe on March 20, 2014, 12:46:25 PM
Do you really believe that in a normal day a traditional looking muslim family would be treated nicely in an amusement park?
Most people along with myself would treat them kindly, unless they were acting like dickheads.
Quote from: drunkenshoe on March 20, 2014, 12:46:25 PM
What Glitch went through is definitely disgusting. However, I don't get something. Why do you think muslims -or any other group- would want anyone to think they are swell people. Do Christians or Jews give a slightest fuck what other groups think about them or their culture? Do Chinese and Indian people? Do you care what people think about your culture?
Basically, you demand that a group of people who is pretty much hated and seen automatically as as 'Arab' terrorists or pedophiles by every other group around them stop hating these people back and act swell just because who they are? How did these muslim minorities act 15 years ago? Was this a problem? DÄ°d you talk about it?
How do Christians treat other minorities they 'hate'. It doesn't have to be religious at all. How do they interact with transsexuals or gays and lesbians? Hispanic or Black people? How do Europeans and Americans treat immigrants generally?
Do you really believe that in a normal day a traditional looking muslim family would be treated nicely in an amusement park?
I really don't think it's that deep DS. What I think is that she was just trying to get on a ride and was mistreated by some asshole jerks. Doesn't matter if this group of people is hated on... she was just a 16 year old girl at an amusement park, I mean really.
Quote from: drunkenshoe on March 20, 2014, 04:42:45 PMYou are even ready to evaluate the "Muslim Day" only from an angle negative from their side. Have you ever thought that it is pretty much possible that they invented a Muslim Day because good white American Christians didn't want these people around them when they are having family time with children in an amusement park?
I still went in, even though I could see them all lined up. I guess it was a slight mistake on my part, but I had reserved my ticket online ahead of time on that day...
If anything, I was more disappointed that they didn't advertise this to people outside of the Islamic community (no offence to them) because then I would have let them have their peace at the park (mind you prayer time was the only time I could get on any of the rides... but that required walking around a bunch of people who were kneeling... it was interesting to say the least.)
As far as the good, white, American Christians, I actually think this may have been started by them.
I saw the video and I see what Cameron and other public figures around the world are doing giving in to islam and fear of violence backing it. And I can clearly remember the words of Christopher Hitchens about a silent, underlying death wish in all religions. The desire to put an end to this miserable veil of tears and venture to the next world. And I'm terrified that we are all subject to this. Do we really tolerate intolerance??
Quote from: Glitch on March 20, 2014, 09:46:19 PM
As far as the good, white, American Christians, I actually think this may have been started by them.
I would assume it was started by Muslims so that they could have their own day in the park without being offended by other cultures. I don't think most Americans would mind if they used the park on an ordinary day, but I don't think that offers an ideal world of pure Islam for Muslims.
Quote from: StupidWiz on March 19, 2014, 07:36:13 PM
I know, it's a sad reality that we, ex-Muslims are facing right now. The least we can do is just warn them, if they don't want to hear it and accuse us for being racist (like Islam is a race? lol :eyes: ) and "Islamophobic" (another word invented to shame the critics of Islam) , well, it's their call. We can only do that much.
It has been a few years since i have been called a "Racist Islamophobic bigot"
If you ask a muslim about Islam they will sugar coat it in the hope you will accept it, if you ask an ex muslim about Islam they will say it is bullshit barfed up by a 7th century desert bandit.
Who would want to worship a god that demands 20% of all war booty?
Quote from: drunkenshoe on March 22, 2014, 08:04:47 AM
You were just called a bigot. I called you that a few times and you tried to insult me with making the shoe in my name 'hoe', because I am a female poster and you are a butthurt simpleton. Most people didn't find your posts significant enough to respond, because like this one^ they all repeated the same bullshit in the same manner, over and over again, without offering any discussion. Stop acting like a victim.
Do you call critics of christianity bigots or is that something you only call critics of Islam?
Can you cite any of your posts in this forum where you have called critics of any religion other than Islam bigots?
I pronounce your name with a silent "s", you chose your name.
I prefer to post in other forums where there are muslims instead of this forum which gives Islam a free pass while all other religions are fair game, i thought this was an atheist forum perhaps i have come to the wrong place.
Your posts are full of bullshit, dont expect me to respond to any more of your garbage.
Quote from: drunkenshoe on March 22, 2014, 09:28:52 AM
You lying piece of shit. Get the fuck out of my face.
Please cite one of your posts where you have called a critic of any religion other than Islam a bigot, you only call critics of Islam bigots.
I accept people are individuals and have different styles of criticising religions, you cannot accept people having different individual styles when it comes to being critical of Islam, you are quite happy for people to bash other religions yet you are always defensive with Islam.
Islam is the only religion that has the death penalty for atheists in 13 Islamic countries which have Islam as the state religion.
Of course all you have is abuse towards those who are critical of Islam, do you ever abuse critics of other religions,are you a hypocrite?
It's just a simple misspelling, It's religion of piece, a piece of you here, another piece of you there.
Quote from: Maldini on April 11, 2014, 02:12:29 AM
It's just a simple misspelling, It's religion of piece, a piece of you here, another piece of you there.
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Islam is just another stupid man made religion. Religion make wars, arguments, and even stuff such as stupid rants saying "go to hell".
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 19, 2014, 02:56:00 PM
Islam is just another stupid man made religion. Religion make wars, arguments, and even stuff such as stupid rants saying "go to hell".
Lol I can name a few other religions that start wars in addition to Islam. Can you, Walker?
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Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 19, 2014, 02:56:00 PM
Islam is just another stupid man made religion. Religion make wars, arguments, and even stuff such as stupid rants saying "go to hell".
Irony, thy name is Walker Lee.
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Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 19, 2014, 02:56:00 PM
Islam is just another stupid man made religion. Religion make wars, arguments, and even stuff such as stupid rants saying "go to hell".
So is Christianity. I wish you could realize that your religion's also man made, caused war and arguments too. I pity you for being indoctrinated by your pastors and parents since you're a child.
Quote from: PickelledEggs on April 19, 2014, 03:48:42 PM
Lol I can name a few other religions that start wars in addition to Islam. Can you, Walker?
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Yes i can. Catholics, Mormons, Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism, etc.
Quote from: StupidWiz on April 19, 2014, 07:12:55 PM
So is Christianity. I wish you could realize that your religion's also man made, caused war and arguments too. I pity you for being indoctrinated by your pastors and parents since you're a child.
Yes i am a teen but i am not indoctrinated by anyone nor do i have a religion. Ya'll keep saying i have a religion but i do not. I am the same as you in the department of religion i have none. I am a follower of God nothing added or taken. I reject religion because religion is a man made belief.
Quote from: Solitary on April 19, 2014, 03:39:08 PM
Get real Walker_Lee! Who made religions if mankind didn't? Solitary
I literately said that mankind made religion. Thanks for repeating me though.
And man created god in his own image.....
Quote from: Jmpty on April 20, 2014, 11:00:11 AM
And man created god in his own image.....
You got that backwards dude. God created man in his own image.
Quote from: Solitary on April 22, 2014, 11:27:42 AM
And why do you think that is so? You are using verbal gymnastics and Slick maneuvers that are fallacious to argue thinking you are winning. This is what neurotics do to win at any cost. You pick and choose what you believe from Christian dogma and think you are like us because you claim you are not a Christian. Why can't you admit you are a Christian? Are you ashamed of its history? Solitary
When did i say that i was not a Christian? A christian is a person who believe in the gospel. By that definition i am. I am not religious though. A religious is a person who adds or takes away from the bible. I do not do that. Secondly i think he made us in his image because it is true. Can you prove it wrong? I am ashamed of these so called Christians who killed because they thaught God told them to. God would not do that so that.
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 22, 2014, 11:41:45 PM
When did i say that i was not a Christian?
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 20, 2014, 03:11:39 PM
I am not a christian i am a follower of Jesus alone Christians are usually fakes.
Why is it always got to be religion? Can't we have a"non- affiliated people who don't give a shit- for peace" thing?
@Jason78 you got me so let me clarify my mistake. What i tried to say is that in reference to being religious i am not christian. In the real term of christian which is belief in Jesus then i am.
Quote from: stromboli on April 23, 2014, 09:57:06 AM
Why is it always got to be religion? Can't we have a"non- affiliated people who don't give a shit- for peace" thing?
That is what you call me a religious person. But i am not and that is why i am talking about it.
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 23, 2014, 04:20:35 PM
@Jason78 you got me so let me clarify my mistake. What i tried to say is that in reference to being religious i am not christian. In the real term of christian which is belief in Jesus then i am. That is what you call me a religious person. But i am not and that is why i am talking about it.
If you're just going to redefine words to mean whatever you want them to mean, then you might as well call yourself a dinosaur.
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 22, 2014, 11:41:45 PM
Secondly i think he made us in his image because it is true. Can you prove it wrong?
This is a basic burden of proof fallacy. You realize that, don't you?
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 22, 2014, 10:56:31 AM
You got that backwards dude. God created man in his own image.
Nopeeee. You are the One that got it backwards. Man invented gods as their own image.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfAPszzkMTI
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 25, 2014, 12:02:58 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfAPszzkMTI
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