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Title: Homebrewing
Post by: Moralnihilist on February 21, 2014, 12:39:50 AM
Anyone other than me brew beer for fun? Currently I got a milk chocolate stout brewing(5 gallons) and a barley wine(1 gallon tester run) and Im finishing off the last irish red ale I made.
Title: Re: Homebrewing
Post by: Jason Harvestdancer on February 21, 2014, 01:51:35 AM
I brew wine actually.  A gallon a month.  Varying results based on the fruits used.  A lot of trial and error.

And one huge colossal error - never EVER use bananas.
Title: Re: Homebrewing
Post by: Jason78 on February 21, 2014, 02:26:24 AM
Just finishing off the last of my homebrew lager here.
Title: Re: Homebrewing
Post by: SGOS on February 21, 2014, 06:41:18 AM
I've made lot of beer, but I always thought it was pretty second rate stuff.  I noticed I had extremely intense dreams from it.  Not scary, just intense.
Title: Re: Homebrewing
Post by: Moralnihilist on February 21, 2014, 12:17:08 PM
Quote from: "Jason_Harvestdancer"I brew wine actually.  A gallon a month.  Varying results based on the fruits used.  A lot of trial and error.

And one huge colossal error - never EVER use bananas.


Actually bananas can be used for a quite good melomel(fruit laden mead), made several last year using different fruits including bananas. It takes several months in a secondary and several more months to bottle condition(if I remember correctly the banana one took about 7 months total), but it was quite drinkable.
Title: Re: Homebrewing
Post by: AllPurposeAtheist on February 21, 2014, 12:31:11 PM
I've never brewed beer, but have made some high test wines and brandy that when the cork is popped the whole room instantly smells like a brewery. I learned mulberries don't make a particularly good brandy. It tasted like Richards Wild Irish Rose laced with a heavy dose of nasty vinegar at nearly every stage.  :-&
Title: Re: Homebrewing
Post by: The Skeletal Atheist on February 22, 2014, 03:51:19 PM
I know some folks who make shine. Good ol Georgia/Alabama cold medicine.
Title: Re: Homebrewing
Post by: jumper on February 24, 2014, 03:10:45 PM
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Title: Re: Homebrewing
Post by: The Skeletal Atheist on February 25, 2014, 01:47:44 AM
One of my grandfathers makes some with peppermint candy and such, fucking awesome. He also makes muscadine wine, which is fucking amazing.
Title: Re: Homebrewing
Post by: The Fly on February 27, 2014, 04:26:58 PM
I'm working on a Belgian witbier IPA right now.

This is cool that we have homebrewers among us.
Title: Re: Homebrewing
Post by: Moralnihilist on February 27, 2014, 09:04:03 PM
So the milk chocolate stout has gone into bottles today, going to condition them for several weeks before cracking one. I have a new batch of a sweet stout in primary now.
Title: Re: Homebrewing
Post by: The Skeletal Atheist on February 27, 2014, 09:59:32 PM
I need to become close friends with all of you.
Title: Re: Homebrewing
Post by: Alloy Crow on March 11, 2014, 08:40:47 PM
I have a couple of question on whisky making, Distilling my own liquour has been in my mind for some time, I would like to make some whisky, do they add flavours besides the one the cask gives to the liquid? when I distill some 'beer', be it made with sugar, corn, rice, whatever, the end result should always be ethyl alcohol and water right? or are there other liquids that get condensed with the alcohol and water that add flavour? I have seen some whiskys that clam to have, for instance, fruty flavours, is this added after distillment?

thanks for your input.
Title: Re: Homebrewing
Post by: The Skeletal Atheist on March 11, 2014, 08:50:34 PM
Whiskey flavor in professional outfits is usually the result of the charred barrel aging.
Title: Re: Homebrewing
Post by: Moralnihilist on March 11, 2014, 09:28:44 PM
Quote from: "Alloy Crow"I have a couple of question on whisky making, Distilling my own liquour has been in my mind for some time, I would like to make some whisky, do they add flavours besides the one the cask gives to the liquid? when I distill some 'beer', be it made with sugar, corn, rice, whatever, the end result should always be ethyl alcohol and water right? or are there other liquids that get condensed with the alcohol and water that add flavour? I have seen some whiskys that clam to have, for instance, fruty flavours, is this added after distillment?

thanks for your input.

Most of the flavor in professional made whiskey comes from years of barrel aging. Some of the flavor comes from other grains besides corn. These grains usually add a non fermentable sugar(like rye) to the wort(non fermented liquid), others add a more fermentable sugar to the wort(and increase the "bite" of the finished product). Plain sugar makes a FOUL tasting final product(the fermentation of it is ungodly).

Unless you have access to pro quality still(NO solder, HIGH quality copper, etc) AND its legal in the country that you reside in, I wouldn't bother trying to distill booze. Homebrewing is simpler, legal damn near everywhere, and ALOT less can go wrong(no worry of still explosions, coper leaching into the final product, going to federal pound me in the ass prison).
Title: Re: Homebrewing
Post by: Shiranu on March 11, 2014, 09:48:06 PM
I would like to try brewing someday... not a big fan of alcohol, but the creative process seems like it is almost an art and that interests me.
Title: Re: Homebrewing
Post by: The Skeletal Atheist on March 12, 2014, 01:05:16 AM
Quote from: "Shiranu"I would like to try brewing someday... not a big fan of alcohol, but the creative process seems like it is almost an art and that interests me.
Both a science and art, really. Distilling is where you get more sciencey with it, but there's still plenty of room to try things.
Title: Re: Homebrewing
Post by: Plu on March 12, 2014, 04:13:42 AM
Food preperation in general is a cross between chemistry and art. If you do it properly, anyway.
Title: Re: Homebrewing
Post by: Alloy Crow on March 12, 2014, 01:39:41 PM
Quote from: "Moralnihilist"
Quote from: "Alloy Crow"I have a couple of question on whisky making, Distilling my own liquour has been in my mind for some time, I would like to make some whisky, do they add flavours besides the one the cask gives to the liquid? when I distill some 'beer', be it made with sugar, corn, rice, whatever, the end result should always be ethyl alcohol and water right? or are there other liquids that get condensed with the alcohol and water that add flavour? I have seen some whiskys that clam to have, for instance, fruty flavours, is this added after distillment?

thanks for your input.

Most of the flavor in professional made whiskey comes from years of barrel aging. Some of the flavor comes from other grains besides corn. These grains usually add a non fermentable sugar(like rye) to the wort(non fermented liquid), others add a more fermentable sugar to the wort(and increase the "bite" of the finished product). Plain sugar makes a FOUL tasting final product(the fermentation of it is ungodly).

Unless you have access to pro quality still(NO solder, HIGH quality copper, etc) AND its legal in the country that you reside in, I wouldn't bother trying to distill booze. Homebrewing is simpler, legal damn near everywhere, and ALOT less can go wrong(no worry of still explosions, coper leaching into the final product, going to federal pound me in the ass prison).

thanks for responding, another question, do you know what other components beside the ethyl alcohol and water come forth after the vaporization process?
thanks for the concern, I'm not planning a massive distilling operation :P, still, where I live i wont have a law related problem.
Now, about the copper leaching into the product... is it hazardous to the health or it just changes the taste?.

cheers
Title: Re: Homebrewing
Post by: Moralnihilist on March 12, 2014, 02:11:59 PM
Quote from: "Alloy Crow"
Quote from: "Moralnihilist"
Quote from: "Alloy Crow"I have a couple of question on whisky making, Distilling my own liquour has been in my mind for some time, I would like to make some whisky, do they add flavours besides the one the cask gives to the liquid? when I distill some 'beer', be it made with sugar, corn, rice, whatever, the end result should always be ethyl alcohol and water right? or are there other liquids that get condensed with the alcohol and water that add flavour? I have seen some whiskys that clam to have, for instance, fruty flavours, is this added after distillment?

thanks for your input.

Most of the flavor in professional made whiskey comes from years of barrel aging. Some of the flavor comes from other grains besides corn. These grains usually add a non fermentable sugar(like rye) to the wort(non fermented liquid), others add a more fermentable sugar to the wort(and increase the "bite" of the finished product). Plain sugar makes a FOUL tasting final product(the fermentation of it is ungodly).

Unless you have access to pro quality still(NO solder, HIGH quality copper, etc) AND its legal in the country that you reside in, I wouldn't bother trying to distill booze. Homebrewing is simpler, legal damn near everywhere, and ALOT less can go wrong(no worry of still explosions, coper leaching into the final product, going to federal pound me in the ass prison).

thanks for responding, another question, do you know what other components beside the ethyl alcohol and water come forth after the vaporization process?
thanks for the concern, I'm not planning a massive distilling operation :P, still, where I live i wont have a law related problem.
Now, about the copper leaching into the product... is it hazardous to the health or it just changes the taste?.

cheers


You would want as little water in the post distillate as possible. The only other things in the post distillate are called congeners(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congener_(alcohol (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congener_(alcohol))

Copper leaching can cause some major issues depending on the quality of the copper doing the leaching. If there is bronze or brass in the copper then you have to worry about led infesting the final product.

ALOT of brewing and distillation is sanitization. Infections of bacteria and unwanted natural yeasts are responsible for more bad issues with booze than any other issue. Another thing that will take up quite a bit of time is documentation. Without detailed documentation you won't be able to duplicate your successes and tracking down issues will be monumentally difficult.