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QuoteA new study suggests there are distinguishable differences in the facial shape of gay and straight men, and the results indicate the faces of gay men may be deemed more masculine. The findings stand in stark contrast to some stereotypical notions about the gay male community.
Researchers from the Center for Theoretical Study at Charles University in Prague and The Academy of Sciences of the Czech Republic decided to study the facial characteristics of gay and straight men and determine if morphological differences can cue sexual orientation. Two studies were conducted: One analyzed whether gay men have noticeably different facial features than straight men; the other examined whether sexual orientation could be determined based solely on these features.
In the first study, researchers gathered 40 gay and 40 straight white, Czech men. After taking 80 portraits with a Canon camera, more than 11,000 coordinates were set to establish a comparison.
"Gay men showed relatively wider and shorter faces, smaller and shorter noses, and rather massive and more rounded jaws, resulting in a mosaic of both feminine and masculine features," according to the study.
Jarka Valentova, a researcher on the Czech study, elaborated on the results in an email to The Huffington Post Thursday.
"It's necessary to point out to possible misunderstandings of our results," she said. "The fact that we have found some significant morphological differences between homosexual and heterosexual men does not mean that any of the groups is easily recognizable on the street (and our Study 2 actually shows that it's not that easy to guess anyone's sexual orientation without knowing it), or that anything like that should be done (like pointing on people with our illustrations and guessing who is who)."
She also added that the sample size used was small and, in order for this study to ascertain more validity, it would need to be replicated within different populations.
Still, researchers suggest the differences in facial shapes may indicate certain prenatal environmental factors, which is a topic sexologist Anthony Bogaert began delving into in September.
One of his previous studies dealt with the increased likelihood of being gay if one has multiple older brothers, and a portion of his research highlighted the possibility of a biological mechanism influencing sexual orientation -- something nature and nurture proponents have been debating for decades.
"I think there's strong evidence that people who believe that there's a biological basis to sexual orientation tend to be more tolerant to sexual minorities, and that's one of the more positive [possible] social outcomes," he previously told HuffPost about his new research.
Totally neutral on this.
Hmm..Raymond Burr and Rock Hudson.. You know the christers are gonna draw their own silly ass conclusions.. :-k
Yeah. My first thought. Ellen DeGeneres certainly doesn't look "lezzie", nor her wife. I'm acquainted with a few transgender people because the fellow that runs the 7-11 nearby has a transgender daughter, and he has hired his daughter's friends. Some are fairly obvious because of their dress or personal style, but others you really can't tell.
Christers have their own patented gay detectors.. It's kept secret because god wants it that way. :lol:
Best way to tell if a guy is gay: is he currently sucking your cock or taking it in the ass from you? If so he MIGHT be gay.
Yeah, that would be the "first person singular" method. :-D
Who thinks up these stupid studies? Isn't it obvious?
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Quote from: "stromboli"http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/07/gay-straight-face-shape_n_4232987.html
QuoteA new study suggests there are distinguishable differences in the facial shape of gay and straight men, and the results indicate the faces of gay men may be deemed more masculine. The findings stand in stark contrast to some stereotypical notions about the gay male community.
Researchers from the Center for Theoretical Study at Charles University in Prague and The Academy of Sciences of the Czech Republic decided to study the facial characteristics of gay and straight men and determine if morphological differences can cue sexual orientation. Two studies were conducted: One analyzed whether gay men have noticeably different facial features than straight men; the other examined whether sexual orientation could be determined based solely on these features.
In the first study, researchers gathered 40 gay and 40 straight white, Czech men. After taking 80 portraits with a Canon camera, more than 11,000 coordinates were set to establish a comparison.
"Gay men showed relatively wider and shorter faces, smaller and shorter noses, and rather massive and more rounded jaws, resulting in a mosaic of both feminine and masculine features," according to the study.
Jarka Valentova, a researcher on the Czech study, elaborated on the results in an email to The Huffington Post Thursday.
"It's necessary to point out to possible misunderstandings of our results," she said. "The fact that we have found some significant morphological differences between homosexual and heterosexual men does not mean that any of the groups is easily recognizable on the street (and our Study 2 actually shows that it's not that easy to guess anyone's sexual orientation without knowing it), or that anything like that should be done (like pointing on people with our illustrations and guessing who is who)."
She also added that the sample size used was small and, in order for this study to ascertain more validity, it would need to be replicated within different populations.
Still, researchers suggest the differences in facial shapes may indicate certain prenatal environmental factors, which is a topic sexologist Anthony Bogaert began delving into in September.
One of his previous studies dealt with the increased likelihood of being gay if one has multiple older brothers, and a portion of his research highlighted the possibility of a biological mechanism influencing sexual orientation -- something nature and nurture proponents have been debating for decades.
"I think there's strong evidence that people who believe that there's a biological basis to sexual orientation tend to be more tolerant to sexual minorities, and that's one of the more positive [possible] social outcomes," he previously told HuffPost about his new research.
Totally neutral on this.
Didn't read the study. Haven't a clue why anyone would waste time on a study like that. Certainly there are more important things for sociologist to study.
Doubt that there is any validity in such a study but as I said, didn't bother to read the study!
What a load of crap.
I had a good laugh though.
This guy for sure!
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Quote from: "The Skeletal Atheist"Best way to tell if a guy is gay: is he currently sucking your cock or taking it in the ass from you? If so he MIGHT be gay.
Unless you're some sort of rapist or child molester, I would consider that pretty definite evidence that he's at least bi unless he was molested or something.
Quote from: "_Xenu_"I would consider that pretty definite evidence that he's at least bi unless he was molested or something.
There is absolutely no evidence of psychological trauma or mental illness linking to homosexuality.
In fact it's these sorts of claims that religious zealots use to justify their discrimination.
Aside from that, orientation is based on what the individual is sexually attracted to .. and not based on actions he/she might perform.
QuoteDoes Face Shape Reveal Homosexuality?
No.
You can't tell a wise man from the colour of his skin either.
The study tried to see if homosexuals had common facial features. (Which apparently they do)
Then they tried to see if people could pick out homosexuals based on their facial features. (Which they could not)
This makes the title stupid, as it falls into the classic 'if the answer to your title can be summed up with "no", you picked a bad title'.
I can't tell the difference, but then again, I'm not a people person.
Quote from: "Sulaco"Quote from: "_Xenu_"I would consider that pretty definite evidence that he's at least bi unless he was molested or something.
There is absolutely no evidence of psychological trauma or mental illness linking to homosexuality.
I didn't say there was. Reread what I wrote.
OMG! I hope that wasn't government funded.
This shit is hilarious . :lol:
Quote from: "_Xenu_"Quote from: "Sulaco"Quote from: "_Xenu_"I would consider that pretty definite evidence that he's at least bi unless he was molested or something.
There is absolutely no evidence of psychological trauma or mental illness linking to homosexuality.
I didn't say there was. Reread what I wrote.
Outlined a section in your original quote in bold which implied that someone attracted to the same sex may have been a result of molestation.
Sulaco, I'm pretty sure Xenu meant that it's definitive proof of being bi unless that act itself involves being molested. Not that molestation happened somewhere in the past.
Quote from: "_Xenu_"Quote from: "The Skeletal Atheist"Best way to tell if a guy is gay: is he currently sucking your cock or taking it in the ass from you? If so he MIGHT be gay.
Unless you're some sort of rapist or child molester, I would consider that pretty definite evidence that he's at least bi unless he was molested or something.
Quote from: "Sulaco"Outlined a section in your original quote in bold which implied that someone attracted to the same sex may have been a result of molestation.
The quote you used confirms what I said. The key word here is
unless. No one else seems to be confused about this and I see no point in continuing this discussion.
Ehem.. GOD HATES FACES! :evil:
That's why we never see 'his' face..
I thought that it was faggots god hated?
I don't know why, they are really tasty!
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Maybe it's those nasty bundles of sticks he hates.
Justin bieber face looks gay for some reason. :-k
The significance of the study, if it turns out to be valid, is that it is another piece of physical evidence for homosexuality being a biological disposition (whether due to genetic or prenatal influences, or some combination) rather than a 'lifestyle choice'.
Quote from: "Mister Agenda"The significance of the study, if it turns out to be valid, is that it is another piece of physical evidence for homosexuality being a biological disposition (whether due to genetic or prenatal influences, or some combination) rather than a 'lifestyle choice'.
The same people that call it a "lifestyle choice" are the same people, it seems, that tend to base everything off of stereotypes. The "lifestyle choice" comes from their perception of gay culture and it's in-your-face aspect that makes them such judgements. I'm not able to tell if people that embrace gay culture do it to prove a point or if they truly believe in it. But knowing a few gay people personally, the fact that they are normal people that act and speak normally and seem just like everybody else shatters to pieces the "lifestyle choice" that certain people talk about.
Quote from: "frosty"The same people that call it a "lifestyle choice" are the same people, it seems, that tend to base everything off of stereotypes. The "lifestyle choice" comes from their perception of gay culture and it's in-your-face aspect that makes them such judgements. I'm not able to tell if people that embrace gay culture do it to prove a point or if they truly believe in it. But knowing a few gay people personally, the fact that they are normal people that act and speak normally and seem just like everybody else shatters to pieces the "lifestyle choice" that certain people talk about.
Right on.
There are many homosexuals that aren't affiliated with the gay scene/gay pride. Some even go as far as to oppose them (myself being one of them), as they're being misrepresented to the general public, along with it establishing cultural norms and beliefs that are unhealthy, exclusive, disrespectful, etc.
In many ways I see a corrolation between gay pride and religion.
Ridiculous. Almost laughable...almost.
yeah, like most of you, I've met plenty of gays, (obviously not as many as skeletal the fucking whore dog has but who has?) and I am pretty damn sure there isn't one damn single facial shape that can bind those into any kind of ....of.....whatever the hell they call it.
Quote from: "aitm"yeah, like most of you, I've met plenty of gays, (obviously not as many as skeletal the fucking whore dog has but who has?) and I am pretty damn sure there isn't one damn single facial shape that can bind those into any kind of ....of.....whatever the hell they call it.
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I'm not that much of a slut. I've only had sexual contact with about 7 people. You're just jealous. :P
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The proper word here is "stud".
So the question is really if face shapes can reveal studliness? Hmmm.. :-k