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Title: The Frailty of Democracy
Post by: SGOS on September 23, 2020, 09:35:09 AM
This is not about wringing our hands over Republican hypocrisy.  And it not about blaming Republicans.  It offers NO solution to saving our own democracy.  It just explains the decay process, which in my opinion, is probably a part of any democracy, but I'd like to be wrong about that.  Most everyone, not everyone, will say that democracy is fragile, and I think it is.  In any system of government, the wealthy and the power hungry will always find ways to circumvent the system, democracies included.

I see us on a brink and I think collapse is imminent.  This is not about voting Democrat or Republican.  Those are not solutions.  Maybe the problem is the constitution, or maybe it's people.  The system is fucked, and it's not healthy to hide from that.

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From the New York times:

Some of the gravest democratic collapses, Mr. Ziblatt and his co-author, Steven Levitsky, found, occurred in 20th century South America, whose two-party presidential systems closely resemble that of the United States. And the downward spiral began, more than once, with the party in power twisting unwritten but important norms to take control of the country’s highest court.

In Argentina, the president’s party abused its power to replace Supreme Court justices, installing loyalists in three out of the court’s five seats. In Venezuela, President Hugo Chávez packed the court, adding a dozen new judges. Chile provides perhaps the most worrying example: Though the precise norm-breaking was different, it led to a cycle of escalation between the parties until the country — long seen as akin to the United States in its democratic longevity and stability — collapsed into violence and dictatorship.

Chile’s bloody fate was also the product of Cold War meddling and polarization that don’t exist in today’s United States. But the pattern is disturbingly familiar. One party violates those norms to give itself a structural advantage beyond its share of the vote. The other side follows suit. Eventually, the norms are gone and with it democracy as we commonly understand it.

Scholars have a term for this kind rule-twisting that exploits unwritten norms for short-term political gain: constitutional hardball.

Any politician faces a temptation to break unwritten norms for short-term gain. The expectation is that they’ll restrain themselves out of a belief that preserving the system is more beneficial in the long-term and that voters or their peers may punish them for drastic transgressions.

But when that logic fails and parties come to see hardball as worth the risk, it can, in extreme cases, set off a doom spiral that can be hard to recover from.

Imagine a baseball game where one team begins breaking rules and faces little consequence. This forces the other team into a difficult choice. It can continue following the rules in the hopes that its opponents will voluntarily give up their rule-breaking advantage. Or it can even things out with its own rule-twisting, knowing this might set of a cycle of tit-for-tat escalation until they’re not even really playing baseball anymore so much as just brawling in the outfield.

There’s a reason that fights over the nation’s high court are often what tip shaky democracies into outright collapse: It’s an opportunity for one team to appoint the umpires who oversee the game.
Title: Re: The Frailty of Democracy
Post by: SGOS on September 23, 2020, 09:39:14 AM
At one time I saw the courts as the epitome of the scales of justice.  Who is it that holds that scales of blind justice?  A goddess?  I don't know if I've adopted a new perspective or if things have changed.  That statue on the desk of the judge is just a symbol of something that doesn't exist.  Did it ever?  I don't know, but it's now a scam.  Maybe it always was.
Title: Re: The Frailty of Democracy
Post by: Baruch on September 23, 2020, 10:50:49 AM
Yes, collapse is always imminent.  Jeebus is coming to take up the banjo playing morons (sorry, not Mormons) from Birmingham Alabama.  Can't happen soon enough ;-)  I will celebrate when no Americans can vote or run for office anymore.  All deplorables.  The Founders were just dead White misogynists (right Mike CL?).  We need the Chinese autocratic communism.  Just like Greece needed the Macedonian autocratic monarchy of Phillip.

If one doesn't spend time in courts (most of us) it might be easy to idolize it, particularly if you believe anything you see on TV.  Remember the FBI TV show?  They weren't showing you how evil J Edgar was or how the deputy head of the FBI was Deepthroat.
Title: Re: The Frailty of Democracy
Post by: Baruch on September 23, 2020, 10:55:28 AM
At one time I saw the courts as the epitome of the scales of justice.  Who is it that holds that scales of blind justice?  A goddess?  I don't know if I've adopted a new perspective or if things have changed.  That statue on the desk of the judge is just a symbol of something that doesn't exist.  Did it ever?  I don't know, but it's now a scam.  Maybe it always was.

Socrates?
Title: Re: The Frailty of Democracy
Post by: drunkenshoe on September 25, 2020, 03:54:37 AM
At one time I saw the courts as the epitome of the scales of justice.  Who is it that holds that scales of blind justice?  A goddess?  I don't know if I've adopted a new perspective or if things have changed.  That statue on the desk of the judge is just a symbol of something that doesn't exist.  Did it ever?  I don't know, but it's now a scam.  Maybe it always was.

Of course, it doesn't exist in that sense. It has never existed in that sense. Justice is the balance which is determined by the sum of standards you can provide for people in a society. The law, education, living standards, opportunities. Providing good standards for as many people as possible. That's justice.

The base is a laicist (no, not secular), social state which is capable of producing a real secular culture. No organised religion backed up by the state.

The understanding of 'freedom' is fundamentally flawed. People are not free to do most things with themselves or with their children.

Simple examples... Vaccination has to be mandatory. It's not freedom. No religious education under 18. It's not freedom. They can't drive until 18 and drink until 21 but they are allowed religion at 8?!

The problem is too much bullshit freedom while there is no real one in terms of what can be had.   

I don't want to touch the elephant in the room. USA is the fortress of capitalism. You don't get to create that succes and greed culture and then surprise the lack of justice in any terms. And it's everywhere now.
Title: Re: The Frailty of Democracy
Post by: Baruch on September 25, 2020, 12:44:45 PM
Go back to sharia, you will like your seclusion and chador.  It has been noted, by psychiatrists, that Westernized ME people are schizoid, it isn't possible to hold contrary cultures in your head at the same time.  To be Western, you have to be raised ab inito in a Western culture.

“The Constitution is not neutral. It was designed to take the government off the backs of the people.” - Justice William O. Douglas

It isn't about giving more power to one party over another ... in that case, both parties of tyranny miss the whole point.

Can't wait for the basement dwelling Millennial losers establishing their Trot Soy-viet Union.  Wakanda!

"Ancient Athens was both a democracy and an empire. that didn’t end well either though." ... this is Sparta!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkWS9PiXekE

My answer to non-Western people and the quislings in the West who assist the Enemy!  Athens lost to Sparta (with Persian help).  Athens then lost to Macedon .. wasn't free again for over 2000 years.  Liberals are weaklings, like Trots in the Left spectrum.  Athens under Perlcles betrayed all of Greece, by forming their own empire.  The Parthenon was built with misappropriated funds (see Bidens and Clintons).

If Turkey attacks Greece, then per Trojan War and Herodotus' theory of history, we must lay Turkey waste!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy:_The_God_That_Failed

I am being driven into atheism in regards to this false god.
Title: Re: The Frailty of Democracy
Post by: drunkenshoe on September 26, 2020, 03:12:30 PM
I guess, you expect some sort of a reaction from me, but I really have no idea what is that, Baruch? What are you talking about?

Turkey and Greece...blah blah isn't that your childhood, youth and and old age?

Title: Re: The Frailty of Democracy
Post by: Baruch on September 26, 2020, 03:54:39 PM
I guess, you expect some sort of a reaction from me, but I really have no idea what is that, Baruch? What are you talking about?

Turkey and Greece...blah blah isn't that your childhood, youth and and old age?

Nope, I am not that type.  No reaction expected, particularly from someone as smart and mature at you are.

I do hope Erdogan behaves himself.
Title: Re: The Frailty of Democracy
Post by: Draconic Aiur on September 26, 2020, 04:12:36 PM
There are similarities of the current USA and Athens because Athens and current USA are very much a Oligarchy and a bad "Tyrant" now is in control. But at the same time the Current USA is much different from the Empire Athens was.
Title: Re: The Frailty of Democracy
Post by: drunkenshoe on September 26, 2020, 04:32:01 PM
There are harsh similarities between Turkey today/Turkey 17 years ago and USA today/4 years ago, I just can't get how fast did that happen?  I wish you could see beyond your made up identity and arrogance.
Title: Re: The Frailty of Democracy
Post by: Baruch on September 26, 2020, 06:29:49 PM
There are similarities of the current USA and Athens because Athens and current USA are very much a Oligarchy and a bad "Tyrant" now is in control. But at the same time the Current USA is much different from the Empire Athens was.

They are the same, they are not the same.  I would hate to be born outside of Sparta, either way ;-)  As the Spartan women used to say, the reason why Spartan women are free, is because they are the only Greek women who give birth to real Greek men ;-)  Athens invented smooth talking politicians like Pericles.  And traitors, like Alcibiades.  And predators like Socrates (Alcibiades' old lover).
Title: Re: The Frailty of Democracy
Post by: Baruch on September 26, 2020, 06:31:02 PM
There are harsh similarities between Turkey today/Turkey 17 years ago and USA today/4 years ago, I just can't get how fast did that happen?  I wish you could see beyond your made up identity and arrogance.

Turkish Arrogance ... give us Vienna or else!  Polish Pride ... take that!

I am not an alpha-male, but I did sleep overnight at a Holiday Inn Express once ;-)

One of the frailties of democracy, is the fact that politics is inseparable from economics, and monetary theory is basic to economics ...

"Meet The Mastermind Behind JPMorgan's Gold And Silver Manipulation "Crime Ring"" ... of course not just e-gold and e-silver are manipulated, everything in finance is manipulated.  In a certain sense, democracy is a political free market.  But if you don't have a real free market in the financial arena etc ... then that works counter to a political free market.
Title: Re: The Frailty of Democracy
Post by: GSOgymrat on September 30, 2020, 05:52:24 AM
As public trust in media, education and elections dwindles then democracy itself becomes unsustainable .

https://youtu.be/1OqFY_2JE1c
Title: Re: The Frailty of Democracy
Post by: Baruch on September 30, 2020, 10:03:36 AM
As public trust in media, education and elections dwindles then democracy itself becomes unsustainable .

https://youtu.be/1OqFY_2JE1c

Media officially since 2012 (and for many decades unofficially) is controlled by the government, for propaganda.  So why should there be any public trust?  If the MSM is entirely partisan, for party X, and everyone knows it (this was like newspapers years ago) and against party Y, why should members of party Y or Independents trust it?

Without the Internet (which went down at my place multiple times last night (thanks to Comcast not being able to handle the "debate" traffic?) I would have no alternative but to believe that Walter Cronkite is a Viet Cong agent, if DoD said so.  According to pro-propaganda politics, we should still be fighting in Vietnam with LBJs corpse in the White House.

There is no reason to believe in free and fair elections, or that the American people are a free or fair people.  Civil war is what we are getting.  Elections only work, when violence is avoided, and orderly change of power happens.  The US system is literally a peaceful coup every 4 years.  This nearly didn't happen in the election of 1800, and led to the duel between Hamilton and Burr.  But there are too many trillions of dollars of grifting at stake, and maniacs who must own the universe or die trying (typical since 3000 BCE) will double down until they destroy their own country (see Japan 1931-1945).
Title: Re: The Frailty of Democracy
Post by: Blackleaf on October 02, 2020, 12:26:22 AM
There's a reason we're in the situation we're in now. The simple fact is that Democrats and Republicans don't operate by the same rules. When Democrats want change, they trust the system to do what it's supposed to do. They believe in the marketplace of ideas, thinking that truth and justice will win out. By contrast, Republicans do not care how they get what they want. The ends justify the means. When we have a Democratic President, they make up their own rules and refuse to cooperate or compromise. But when there's a Republican in the Oval Office, anything less than total submission is called being an "obstructionist." Republicans expect Democrats to compromise while they refuse to budge.

There are only two ways for Democrats to respond. First, they can continue to play by the rules, and lose ground as Republicans abuse the system to get what they want. Take now, for example, when Republicans are stacking the courts in their favor, speeding up the nomination process to get a Republican in the seat DAYS before the election. This after they refused to even vote for an Obama nominee, on the grounds that a nomination shouldn't be made on the last year of a President's term. Let the people decide, they said. Funny how the rules change when convenient for them, huh? The GOP's lack of consistency or dignity puts them at a significant advantage here.

The second option is that the Democrats say enough is enough, take their gloves off, and start behaving like the Republicans do. They give up any pretense that the system will work itself out, and they do everything they can to increase their power. But if Democrats do that, then Republicans will point their fingers and say that they did everything the Republicans accused them of doing. They will justify the opinion too many people have already been fooled to believe: that Democrats are "just as bad." Additionally, even if we started playing by the same rules, the Republicans would have a several decades headstart. How long would it take for us to catch up, or even gain the advantage? We'd have to get insanely lucky and just happen to have a President in office when a seat is made available. The odds are stacked against the Democrats.

I honestly don't see any way that we can get out of this mess. I wish I could have some hope for the future to hold on to, but we're in a lose-lose situation here. We are absolutely fucked. It takes us forever to make any progress, and it only takes one term for Republicans to undo decades of hard work. Even if Biden wins, so what? Does Biden strike you as a man of conviction, who will push hard for positive change, who will do everything he can to fix our broken system? No. It would be a minor setback for Republicans as they work to repeal Roe v. Wade, increase "religious freedoms" (for fundamentalist Christians to take away everyone else's freedoms), and take rights away from marginalized groups. The Republicans will have their theocratic utopia, and any problems that inevitably arise from that system will be blamed on Democrats for not getting with the program.
Title: Re: The Frailty of Democracy
Post by: drunkenshoe on October 02, 2020, 05:23:03 AM
Because American Republicans, like all right-wing and religious groups and governments in the world are self-entitled and move with the understanding that it is their natural right. That's the fundamental nature of that thought, that frame of mind, it is not corruption when they do it. The very reason they can't administrate a barn full of horse shit.
Title: Re: The Frailty of Democracy
Post by: Baruch on October 02, 2020, 11:29:29 AM
Because American Republicans, like all right-wing and religious groups and governments in the world are self-entitled and move with the understanding that it is their natural right. That's the fundamental nature of that thought, that frame of mind, it is not corruption when they do it. The very reason they can't administrate a barn full of horse shit.

@Blackleaf - I miss Shiranu.  So you have to be our angry young man ;-)  Keep at it, eventually you will be the Establishment.  Democrats behaving like Republicans?  Are you unaware of Bill Clinton and Barak Obama?  Hillary loves her some Goldman-Sachs.  Wish Cavebear would post, he majored in political science.

Establishments are like that.  We have had Establishment for 5000 years, with occasional peasant revolts/iconoclasms that change the deck chairs, but human nature hasn't changed in 5000 years.  Of course New Soviet Man and Aryan Superman and now Eugenic Driven Evolution are there to attempt to make people stronger faster etc for a lot less than $6 million per person ;-)  In the US, I was figuring back, we have an iconoclasm movement every 50 years, dating back to 1770.  Next 1820, then 1870, then 1920, then 1970, then 2020.  This is intergenerational biology at work.

Marxists in their pseudo-science think that we are evolving in political-economy to an omega-point (later turned into cosmic theology by Teilhard DeChardin).  Once we get to true communism, the state will no longer be necessary.  Marxism was the product of a German Jew misunderstanding the French Revolution (Peasant Revolt).  The French, like the US, have continued to revolt.  Including in 1968 against DeGaulle and now with the Yellow Vests, hmm about 50 years.  Unless people start living for 100s of years, I see generation replacement as a permanent stop to ideas of cultural apotheosis.

If we did live that long, society would be "of the nursing home, for the nursing home, in the nursing home".  Each generation starts over, and having learned of and rejected their parent's/grandparent's they screw everything up.  My daughter follows the pattern as I did in my time.  Civilization is torn down by one generation, then we spend the next two generations rebuilding it.  This may well be healthy.  The fall of the Roman Empire was a necessary super cycle, like a major forest fire, to clear out the dead wood.  But the forest always grows back, as it should.
Title: Re: The Frailty of Democracy
Post by: Blackleaf on October 02, 2020, 12:59:41 PM
Because American Republicans, like all right-wing and religious groups and governments in the world are self-entitled and move with the understanding that it is their natural right. That's the fundamental nature of that thought, that frame of mind, it is not corruption when they do it. The very reason they can't administrate a barn full of horse shit.

When you're doing the will of God, it can't be wrong. And that's what they believe: that they're doing the will of God. If they have to lie and cheat, then so be it, as long as abortion can be made illegal again.
Title: Re: The Frailty of Democracy
Post by: Baruch on October 02, 2020, 01:10:32 PM
When you're doing the will of God, it can't be wrong. And that's what they believe: that they're doing the will of God. If they have to lie and cheat, then so be it, as long as abortion can be made illegal again.

When you are doing the will of Karl Marx theory, winning is inevitable, but only Chinese communists have the Mandate of Heaven.

I don't wish for abortion to be made illegal.  I want liberalism to be made illegal.  The rest will fall into place.
Title: Re: The Frailty of Democracy
Post by: drunkenshoe on October 02, 2020, 01:19:48 PM
@Blackleaf - I miss Shiranu.  So you have to be our angry young man ;-) 

You think Shiranu is an example of an angry American man?!

Marxist are not scientists. If you mean 'Marxist scientists' that is something else, and in theory it means the movements in resistance of any religion; in short any bullshit that's why you have any kind of modern medicine. Social sciences are not sciences, they're historical disciplines. There is your hint. 
Title: Re: The Frailty of Democracy
Post by: Baruch on October 02, 2020, 03:37:54 PM
You think Shiranu is an example of an angry American man?!

Marxist are not scientists. If you mean 'Marxist scientists' that is something else, and in theory it means the movements in resistance of any religion; in short any bullshit that's why you have any kind of modern medicine. Social sciences are not sciences, they're historical disciplines. There is your hint.

Marxism was billed as a science, for over 100 years.  If neo-Marxism isn't even a science, it is just BS.  Fabian Socialism is so gradual, it isn't worth bothering with.  If you want change, kill some millions or even some billions, and you can have your free lunch utopia (based on fake physics).
Title: Re: The Frailty of Democracy
Post by: Blackleaf on October 03, 2020, 02:11:52 PM
Relevant:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFeXJkcKYaU

Also, if you like philosophy, I highly recommend subscribing to this guy.
Title: Re: The Frailty of Democracy
Post by: fencerider on October 07, 2020, 09:39:54 PM
I see us on a brink and I think collapse is imminent.  This is not about voting Democrat or Republican.  Those are not solutions.  Maybe the problem is the Constitution, or maybe it's people.  The system is fucked, and it's not healthy to hide from that.

The system is royally screwed. It's been on a downward spiral since the 80's. I don't know if collapse is imminent or not. Methinks Civil War is more imminent than collapse. And we must be ready. Not just ready to start loading guns, but to know what exactly we will be fighting for. The people (defined by the English language as the working class) against the wealthy and their lackeys.

The Constitution does have many flaws in it; as has been discovered by Trump, and republicans; it does need to be changed. Since this is the 21st year of me studying the Constitution, I started entertaining myself a couple months ago by rewriting the Constitution without the flaws thats the parasites have been taking advantage of. Nothing like a raging bull (Orange Chumpanzee) to show you where the fence is weak.
Title: Re: The Frailty of Democracy
Post by: Baruch on October 10, 2020, 09:40:24 AM
Liberal vs Conservative string got moved to the Enter The Darkness area.  Aww.  Just listen to your Radio Free Pravda while you still can ;-)

So just political science on this thread ...

"Nearly 50,000 Voters Receive Wrong Ballots In Ohio" ... oops, shambolic again

"Death To Free Speech In The Netherlands - Again" ... EU does what EU is

Tory dictatorship for UK, Dem dictatorship for the US.  This is the new normal.
Title: Re: The Frailty of Democracy
Post by: Cassia on October 11, 2020, 07:17:43 AM
Re: The Frailty of Democracy

The most important characteristic of a democracy is the ability to delete a bad government. This is the price we pay for having a mediocre government most of the time. Each individual in a democracy will rarely get what they want. Tough shit, the alternatives suck more. Perhaps a true multiparty democracy would help bridge the valley between extremes, but I don't know how to get there.
Title: Re: The Frailty of Democracy
Post by: Baruch on October 11, 2020, 10:23:36 AM
Re: The Frailty of Democracy

The most important characteristic of a democracy is the ability to delete a bad government. This is the price we pay for having a mediocre government most of the time. Each individual in a democracy will rarely get what they want. Tough shit, the alternatives suck more. Perhaps a true multiparty democracy would help bridge the valley between extremes, but I don't know how to get there.

Military coup?  As in the Constitutional Convention of 1787, a bloodless coup led by traitors Benjamin Franklin (noted serial killer and traitor) and George Washington (noted whisky brewer and traitor)?

The current Constitution was designed for ... #1 avoid British Parliament foolishness (as revealed by the American Revolution), #2 avoid Italian Parliament foolishness (as revealed after WWII).  The US was designed to be a 4 million people mostly agricultural country, with propertied White men running everything (because those were the only people who had a college education in law (not ministry or medicine)).  Gentlemen like Jefferson.

True democracy was also stopped by that Constitution, because ... #3 avoid Athenian assembly foolishness (as revealed by ancient history).  Government isn't Walmart, where you go to shop, find some government program you like, and charge it.

This is why some people are ethno-nats.  Everyone should be the same race, same language, same social class .. to make up a polity.  Bantustans like in Boer S Africa.  Then democracy won't result in chaos, because natural group think.  I think ethno-nats are pessimists.  What is needed is dictatorship, not democracy.  Bang heads together and shoot the outliers.
Title: Re: The Frailty of Democracy
Post by: Cassia on October 11, 2020, 10:47:32 AM
LOL. I'll go with the market sentiment. We have a priced-in Biden win and at least a generous Q1 fiscal stimulus money printing package (some disappointment and volitivity still possible because it's way late). A extraordinarily poor executive branch will be replaced. Trump and his fake Christian side-kick will go down as shit-stains in the history books.
Title: Re: The Frailty of Democracy
Post by: Baruch on October 11, 2020, 11:13:28 AM
LOL. I'll go with the market sentiment. We have a priced-in Biden win and at least a generous Q1 fiscal stimulus money printing package (some disappointment and volitivity still possible because it's way late). A extraordinarily poor executive branch will be replaced. Trump and his fake Christian side-kick will go down as shit-stains in the history books.

Maybe.  Predictors end up eating glass shards from their broken crystal balls ;-(  I hear in GB you can bet on anything.  Can you actually bet on the Presidential race in Las Vegas?

"Pelosi’s 25th Amendment Panel moves U.S. one step closer to Politburo Communism" ... utopia soon, everyone in US to become Black gang banger. Wakanda!

"Where's the companion bill that protects the American people from 80 year old, criminally insane and delusional Speakers of the House?" .. rule of law and Constitution are dead.  One Mafia gang against another Mafia gang.  Not politics.

"ANTIFA RIOTERS AMBUSHED AND MASS ARRESTED AFTER BLM RATTED THEM OUT FOR BEING WHITE AND USING BLM" .. civil war within Democrat Blackshirts?  Or are there moles in their ranks?
Title: Re: The Frailty of Democracy
Post by: Baruch on October 19, 2020, 09:25:34 PM
“Power is in tearing human minds to pieces and putting them together again in new shapes of your own choosing.”  - George Orwell

Some Dems calling for the de-Nazification of the US.  How about lets kill all the communist traitors first?
Title: Re: The Frailty of Democracy
Post by: Baruch on October 20, 2020, 11:33:38 AM
“In the first of what will no doubt be a series of blockbuster voting rights rulings or opinions in this 2020 electoral season, the U.S. Supreme Court let stand a Pennsylvania Supreme Court ruling to count mail-in ballots received within three days of November 3rd’s Election Day, even if they lack a legible postmark.”  - a 4-4 ruling but not a bad decision anyway, Roberts again was the swing vote

"DoJ Finally Files Sweeping Antitrust Lawsuit Against Google" .. shadow boxing with the CIA

"Google Whistleblower Tells Veritas Search Engine Is "Skewing Results" To Benefit Democrats" ... soon to be Arkancided

"Crime Pays: Goldman Strikes $2BN Deal With DoJ To Avoid All Charges Tied To 1MDB" .. 1MDB was a giant financial scandal with Malaysia.  Goldman will take their cost off of their taxes as a cost of business.

"UK Officer In Charge Of Submarine's Nukes Boarded "Staggering Drunk" While Clutching BBQ Chicken" ... not enough rum rations?

""New government of Sudan, which is making great progress, agreed to pay $335 MILLION to U.S. terror victims and families."" ... so much more successful than the State Department under Hillary
Title: Re: The Frailty of Democracy
Post by: SGOS on October 20, 2020, 06:57:25 PM
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LOL. I'll go with the market sentiment. We have a priced-in Biden win and at least a generous Q1 fiscal stimulus money printing package (some disappointment and volitivity still possible because it's way late). A extraordinarily poor executive branch will be replaced. Trump and his fake Christian side-kick will go down as shit-stains in the history books.

The idea of a foreign force invading the US was shocking on 9-11, but I always knew it could and probably would happen at some time (put enough monkeys in a room with typewriters, and eventually...), you know how that goes.

Most of the US became hysterical after 9-11, leading to the invasion of a country that had nothing to do with it.  I remember Bush saying, "They wanted to take away our freedoms."  I don't know if that was their agenda.  It may have been part of a bigger agenda, but the US was clearly a target.  We haven't heard much from those guys since that attack.  There have been a few bumbled bombings that made big headlines, but were of little consequence to the nation as a whole.  Now that specific threat is a greatly diminished.  But the fall of democracy is much farther along today, and our biggest threat comes from within.  Our leaders appear to be loving it.  It's been the fodder of their campaigns as they wring their hands and point fingers at our own people, while doing little that would help anyone but the very rich.

We have become distracted.  Instead of becoming "great again" if we ever were to begin with, we have become petty, mean and ugly.  We would hurt our fellow countrymen, rather than help them.  We have done a lot of stupid things in the past, but I can't remember a time in my life where Washington, DC has been this dysfunctional.

I'm not betting on a Biden win.  We are operating under new rules for democracy, and if Biden does win, I don't expect much.  He may or may not make things worse, but I don't expect him to make things better.  Democrats will be happy, and Republicans will be sad, but no one is likely to be better off when it's all said and done.

Where's that candidate that wanted to give everyone $1000 a month?  I'm ready for a buy out.  I'll cash it in and go on one last bender before the sun sets.  And Washington can go ahead and do whatever it wants.
Title: Re: The Frailty of Democracy
Post by: Baruch on October 20, 2020, 07:12:07 PM
Yang yourself on Zoom and people will know ;-)

"CNN ANALYST SUSPENDED FROM MAGAZINE JOB FOR WHIPPING OUT HIS DONG ON ZOOM CALL" ... my grand-dad's business parter did the first porn broadcast on Earth.  Dr Baker, a real nut job.

"University Of Chicago Faculty Demands Reparations" ... send the grad students home (they don't do undergrad there), then burn the faculty along with the buildings.

"an elite based in certain blue states disdains ordinary Americans" .. don't stop with the professors, burn the Elite in general

"San Diego School District Announces It Will Eliminate Grading Standards To "Combat Racism"" ... register your kids in Spanish, they never have to go to class, they all get As.

"LIBERALS JUMPING SHIP AND VOTING TRUMP AS DEMOCRATS GO INSANE, LEFTISTS CALL TO ABOLISH CONSTITUTI.." ... that pesky Bill of Rights, like freedom of religion, freedom of assembly, freedom to arms. freedom of speech ... very annoying to the new Dictatorship.
Title: Re: The Frailty of Democracy
Post by: Baruch on October 21, 2020, 12:26:26 PM
"Facebook Whistleblower Exposes "Hate-Speech Engineering" Group, Staffed With Chinese Nationals; NYPost" ... a version of shadow banning ... you are all Chinese slaves now, get back to work at Foxconn.

“Good times make men weak”
"Weak men create hard times"
"Hard times make men strong"
“Strong men create good times"

"Scott Baio slams 'Happy Days' reunion supporting Democrats, brands John Stamos a 'Marxist'" ... burn down Hollywood

"“Never let a good crisis go to waste.” Those were the words of Saul Alinsky, author of Rules for Radicals, a book in which he describes Lucifer as the “very first radical.”" ... any Satanists in the house?

"Economy-Crushing COVID-19 Lockdowns Contributed To 100,000 US Deaths, New CDC Guidance Suggests" ... vs 200,000 over-count of Covid deaths, which are maybe only 20,000

"California City Begins Handing Out Free Cash To "Address Inequalities For Black People"" ... literally "straight out of Compton" ... where i took swimming lessons at the public pool circa 1967.  This is mostly a Black suburb of LA, so who are they going to get the money from?  Rooftop Koreans or non-English speaking Mexican immigrants?
Title: Re: The Frailty of Democracy
Post by: Baruch on October 22, 2020, 09:34:39 PM
'In a time of universal deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.' - George Orwell

"Don't Vote For A Psychopath: Tyranny At The Hands Of A Psychopathic Government" ... psychopaths all the way down

Title: Re: The Frailty of Democracy
Post by: Baruch on October 23, 2020, 04:42:58 PM
Bret Weinstein, famous liberal professor, once oppressed at Evergreen State College, now banned from Facebook, because of the snowflakes.

"We are governed now in private, by entities that make their own rules and are answerable to no process. Disaster is inevitable. We are living it." - Bret Weinstein

Facebook claims it was a mistake, a flagging of a false account, and they have fixed the problem.
Title: Re: The Frailty of Democracy
Post by: Baruch on October 23, 2020, 09:41:15 PM
"YouTube Is Selling So Many Political Ads It Has Run Out Of Videos To Place Them On" ... why we have contentious elections, to make money for YouTube which makes money for Google which makes Dark Money for the CIA

"Americans Are Panic-Buying Military & Survivalist Gear Two Weeks Before Election" ... the Dem Black Shirts are coming ... (and they don't have condoms this time)
Title: Re: The Frailty of Democracy
Post by: Baruch on October 24, 2020, 03:41:27 PM
"No Signature Match? No Postmark? No Problemo! This Week In Ballot Shenanigans!" ... both parties want to rig elections in their own favor.  Their policy statements are malarky.  So ... looks like we can blame the irish, not the Russians.

"Top 10% Of Twitter Users Create 92% Of Tweets In US - And 69% Of Them Lean Left" .. roughly similar to here ;-)
Title: Re: The Frailty of Democracy
Post by: Baruch on October 25, 2020, 11:17:57 AM
"The Silent Majority did not suddenly go quiet. They were censored." - William F. Buckley Jr.

"THE GREAT RESET IS REAL, WORLD ECONOMIC FORUM CALLS FOR GLOBAL RESET AND LEFTIST VALUES AFTER COVI.." ... Menshevik/Trotsky communism is utopia ... utopia ... not.
Title: Re: The Frailty of Democracy
Post by: Baruch on October 27, 2020, 12:45:23 PM
"Philadelphia Overrun By Rioting, Looting After Police Shoot Knife-Wielding Black Man" ... would they riot if a White man was shot?

"Most political philosophy is just an elaborate justification for theft and fraud..." ... true, that is what the intelligencia does for a living

"Student Newspaper Condemns Harvard Republicans For Endorsing Trump" ... aka The Citadel (old ante-bellum college) condemns students endorsing Lincoln

"Ten years after Assange’s brave act of journalism changed the world and exposed one of the crimes of the century, he sits alone in solitary confinement in a UK prison..." ... what governments do

""Can I Change My Vote": Voter's Remorse Sets In As Searches For Do-Over Spike" ... no, you did your civic duty, now let it go.

“Hillary Clinton is sick to her stomach for purging the government of traitors, incompetent bureaucrats, and establishment cronies?” ... spoils system should be resumed every 4 years, end perpetual government employment

"Rep. Ilhan Omar Expects Biden To Pack Cabinet With 'Progressive Democrats'" ... no, with Somali Salafists married to their sibling

"WaPo Owner & World's Richest Man Jeff Bezos Reportedly In Talks To Buy CNN" ... Monopoly man

"Sorority Apologizes For Congratulating Amy Coney Barrett" ... burn all the sororities

"In America, anyone can become President. That’s the Problem.”" .. should have remained a crown colony ;-)

Quote from recent history of ancient Egypt ... "To be a member of the common people meant a life of subjugation, to be a member of the king's inner circle meant a life of fear" ... I see things haven't changed.

"CNN's "Not Even Pretending Anymore"" .. doesn't impact me.  They could self identify as DNC or CCP.  Haven't relied on cable TV news for 15 years.
Title: Re: The Frailty of Democracy
Post by: Baruch on October 28, 2020, 03:43:33 AM
““Shadow lobbyists” run rampant in the Swamp” … including elected officials and their family members

"'You're Gonna Bury All Of Us': Whistleblower Describes Brazen Biden-China Dealings In Explosive Interview With Tucker Carlson" ... no, the CIA ordered the Clintons, Bidens and Obamas to do what they did, or else

"Bobulinski says that "Joe Biden and his family is compromised," after describing dealings that included purchasing a portion of a Russian state-owned energy company." ... Bidens did nothing wrong, OMB

"I remember looking at Jim Biden in saying how are you guys getting away with this? Like, aren't you concerned? And he looked at me and he laughed a little bit and said. 'plausible deniability.'" .. with MSM it is complete deniability, MSM ordered by CIA, or be "Seth Rich'ed" ...

"In reality, Hunter Biden personally represented a top communist Chinese official in China’s purchase of a 14% stake in Rosneft, Russia’s state-owned energy company, per a Biden family whistleblower." ... every pol does this, every bit of the US is for sale to the highest bidder, if your property, business, and person is sold out, it is your fault you are too poor to compete with Chinese bidders.  The US is the most communist nation, Russia and China are the most capitalist.

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"If the CIA told us anything about all the nefarious plots out there against the US, they’d have to kill us..." ... why they have unique plausible deniability

“The Capitalists will sell us the rope with which we will hang them.” - Lenin

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"National Guard Responds As 1000s Of Looters Ransack Philly In 2nd Night Of Chaos; Reporter Brutalized By "BLM Rioters"" .. they are all KKK in disguise, all Democrats are law abiding and pacifist tree huggers

""We're Going To Make Sure Trump Leaves": Leftists Plan To Storm DC After Election" ... still looking forward to the Death Ray deployment.  Use it on Congress too ;-)

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"A Republican operative has been exposed by James O'keefe and project Veritas harvesting ballots, changing senior citizens votes, and offering gifts." ... ward healing 1960 Chicago style, but today

"DC'S K STREET & WHY THE ELECTION CHANGES NOTHING bevis and butthead" ... ALEC writes all our laws
Title: Re: The Frailty of Democracy
Post by: Baruch on October 29, 2020, 10:55:20 AM
"Van Full Of Explosives Discovered In Philly On Third Night Of Rioting" ... COINTELPRO?  Or Soros?

"But what if normal Americans do not want to be lectured to? Perhaps real populism in America is simply letting people raise a family and grill in peace?" ... I want the PDS (Politics Derangement Syndrome) people exiled to Somalia

"Hunter Biden Documents Mysteriously Vanish From Overnight Envelope, Tucker Carlson Says" ... surprised Pikachu face!

“Many people are pushing a different vision that is grounded in hierarchies based on collective social and political identities rather than in the inherent and equal dignity of every person as an individual.” ... otherwise we get tribal warfare

"...the Supreme Court will allow absentee ballots in North Carolina to be received and counted up to 9 days after Election Day..." ... ok, so just go to sleep for 10 days after the election ...

"TWITTER SUSPENDS CBP COMMISSIONER FOR SAYING THE BORDER WALL WORKED, STOPPING CRIMINALS" ... now to keep the Dems out ;-)

"JOURNALIST FURIOUS THAT FEDS ANNOUNCE ARRESTS OF BLM RIOTERS BECAUSE ITS HELPING TRUMP WIN ELECTIO.." .. salty tears

"FAMOUS JOURNALIST RESIGNS AFTER OUTLET CENSORS BIDEN SCANDAL, SLAMS THE LEFTIST CENSORSHIP IN NEWS" ... Greenwald is one of the few actual journalists, not DNC hacks
Title: Re: The Frailty of Democracy
Post by: Baruch on October 30, 2020, 11:36:32 AM
"Biden Campaign Accuses Facebook Of Favoring Trump After 'Glitch' Takes Down 1000s Of Ads" ... COINTELPRO.  Dems had them taken down so they could provide cover for the Communist News Network and Socialist Networking ... blame Trump and Putin

"CNN CALLS TRUMP SUPPORTERS "ADDICTS" AND CULTISTS, LEFTISTS CALL FOR "TRUTH" COMMISSIONS AFTER TRU.." .. says all the drugie sex-addled Californicators ;-)
Title: Re: The Frailty of Democracy
Post by: Baruch on October 31, 2020, 09:10:08 AM
"The Democrat party is full of corrupt grifters and the Republican party is full of Democrats" ... just like Labour vs Tories in GB

"Keep in mind that John Kerry's kid, Pelosi's kid, Romney's kid and Bidens kid ALL had positions on Ukrainian gas boards as well! They should ALL be behind bars!" .. not just the whole damn Biden family.  Don't forget Chelsea being part of the Clinton Foundation, and Adam Schiff's daughter being married to Soros' son.  Spawn of Satan tend to be little demons.

"Why Propaganda Is Vital In Upholding The Illusion Of A Democracy" ... "Democracy only exists if it is upheld, and if a citizenry fails to do so, it renders itself defenseless to an ever-creeping tyranny" .. the Elite never sleep

Title: Re: The Frailty of Democracy
Post by: Baruch on November 02, 2020, 12:13:12 PM
"Globalists are about Rulers and Serfs, deep personal debt enslavement, and endless wars to enrich themselves." ... aka Trots

"President Harry S Truman: “No man can get rich in politics unless he’s a crook.”" .. last good Democrat.  Carter was moral, but incompetent.

"Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho Marx

"The state will wither away" - Karl Marx

"In 1969, Hillary Clinton wrote "'There Is Only the Fight ...': An Analysis of the Alinsky Model," a 92-page senior thesis at Wellesley College on the elder radical's tactics." ... Obama is a follower of Alinsky
Title: Re: The Frailty of Democracy
Post by: Baruch on November 03, 2020, 02:54:37 AM
"New research shows once again that it’s large firms and the 1%—not the “median voter”—who drive U.S. policy." ... always the Establishment

"War Does Not Determine Who Is Right, Only Who Is Left" — Bertrand Russell

"In Philly, 13 precincts voted 100% turnout and 99% Obama in 2012" .. normal politics in the US, but worse because until the year, the Dems weren't pro-criminal and pro-treason

Ambrose Bierce: “War is God’s way of teaching Americans geography." ... civil war is God's way of teaching American geography ;-)
Title: Re: The Frailty of Democracy
Post by: Baruch on November 05, 2020, 08:14:04 PM
"WE SO EASILY FORGET. ONCE THE CRY OF SO-CALLED PROSPERITY IS HEARD IN THE LAND, WE BECOME SO STAMPEDED BY THE SPIRIT OF MAMMON, THAT WE CANNOT SERVE THE DICTATES OF SOCIAL CONSCIENCE. WE ARE HERE TO SERVE NOTICE THAT THE ECONOMIC ORDER IS THE INVENTION OF MAN; AND THAT IT CANNOT DOMINATE CERTAIN ETERNAL PRINCIPLES OF JUSTICE AND OF GOD. THE TEST OF OUR PROGRESS IS NOT WHETHER WE ADD MORE TO THE ABUNDANCE OF THOSE WHO HAVE MUCH; IT IS WHETHER WE PROVIDE ENOUGH FOR THOSE WHO HAVE TOO LITTLE."  - FDR

Mixed economy, not communism, not free drug culture.
Title: Re: The Frailty of Democracy
Post by: Baruch on November 06, 2020, 07:01:34 PM
Executive Chairman of the World Economic Forum Klaus Schwab quote .. "The pandemic represents a rare but narrow window of opportunity to reflect, re-imagine, & re-set our World" !! ... hope the useful idiots enjoy their slavery.  It gets hot out in the cotton fields and the whip of the taskmaster stings!
Title: Re: The Frailty of Democracy
Post by: drunkenshoe on November 07, 2020, 11:59:03 AM
We should carry this to this thread.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZWRhLW7Y8w&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: The Frailty of Democracy
Post by: Baruch on November 07, 2020, 12:02:54 PM
What if a Presidential candidate conspired multiple times with foreign powers, prior to the campaign and during the campaign?  What happens if a candidate is a war monger?  What if a candidate is a senile criminal?  These questions I have no answer for.  Monkeys have to monkey.  But no monkey should run for office or vote.  We need a dictator monkey, we need Stalin.
Title: Re: The Frailty of Democracy
Post by: trdsf on November 07, 2020, 04:52:22 PM
The system is royally screwed. It's been on a downward spiral since the 80's. I don't know if collapse is imminent or not. Methinks Civil War is more imminent than collapse. And we must be ready. Not just ready to start loading guns, but to know what exactly we will be fighting for. The people (defined by the English language as the working class) against the wealthy and their lackeys.

The Constitution does have many flaws in it; as has been discovered by Trump, and republicans; it does need to be changed. Since this is the 21st year of me studying the Constitution, I started entertaining myself a couple months ago by rewriting the Constitution without the flaws thats the parasites have been taking advantage of. Nothing like a raging bull (Orange Chumpanzee) to show you where the fence is weak.
I'm curious to see your revisions.  I was a PoliSci major, and did several courses on the Constitution (I thought I wanted to be a lawyer for a while, then I decided to remain human).
Title: Re: The Frailty of Democracy
Post by: Baruch on November 07, 2020, 05:35:35 PM
You were wise to avoid mutating into a lawyer-thing ;-)

There is no science to politics, just criminal science .. snare drum!
Title: Re: The Frailty of Democracy
Post by: Baruch on November 08, 2020, 10:00:51 AM
"It is one thing to know your opponents have no soul. It is quite another to watch in real time their depravity play out with gleeful disdain..." ... this applies to both parties.  Hail meth pipes and little girls ;-)

"REASONING IS NO USE; FACTS THAT CONTRADICT PERSONAL PREJUDICES CAN SIMPLY BE DISBELIEVED — INDEED, THE FOOL CAN COUNTER BY CRITICIZING THEM, AND IF THEY ARE UNDENIABLE, THEY CAN BE JUST PUSHED ASIDE AS TRIVIAL EXCEPTIONS. WE SHALL NEVER AGAIN TRY TO CONVINCE A FOOL BY REASON, FOR IT IS BOTH USELESS AND DANGEROUS." DIETRICH BONHOEFFER ... I think if Bonhoeffer was in the US now, AOC would purge him.

"Record $1 billion worth of bitcoin linked to the Silk Road seized by U.S. government" ... the new free economy, to pay for illegal drugs and porn.  Bitcoin etc were invented by governments, to act as honey traps for dumb crooks.
Title: Re: The Frailty of Democracy
Post by: Baruch on November 11, 2020, 10:36:51 AM
"As Delingpole explains in his column, “The Great Reset” merely represents a re-packaging of the old globalist agenda which has been stuttering over the last decade.

Namely, technocratic dictatorial rule by a tiny elite, the “green new deal,” the gradual abolition of private property, a guaranteed minimum wage that will see jobs replaced by robots, a crackdown on personal liberties and curtailing freedom of movement.

As we previously highlighted, the idea that the world will never return to normal post-COVID is being pushed by the establishment across the board.
A senior U.S. Army official said that mask wearing and social distancing will become permanent, while CNN’s international security editor Nick Paton Walsh asserted that the mandatory wearing of masks will become “permanent,” “just part of life,” and that the public would need to “come to terms with it.”"

The only purpose of most people's lives is to provide slaves for the owners.  Unchanged since First Dynasty Egypt.  All Hail, the millennials Sino-Germanic Reich!

Democracy = you are free to agree to become a slave, but not free to not agree

"politics is war without bloodshed, war is politics with bloodshed" - Chairman Mao
Title: Re: The Frailty of Democracy
Post by: Baruch on November 16, 2020, 11:21:31 AM
"When Does A "Glitch" Become A Coup? It's Time to Regulate America's Fly-by-Night Voting Machine Monopoly" ... 3 unregulated companies control the whole politics of the US

But there was a Democrat Congressional investigation in 2019 which concluded ...“These problems threaten the integrity of our elections and demonstrate the importance of election systems that are strong, durable, and not vulnerable to attack.” ... meanwhile DHS says there were no glitches, hacking or bad ballots (bureaucrats are so predictable).
Title: Re: The Frailty of Democracy
Post by: Baruch on November 17, 2020, 12:10:01 PM
"The Great Reset is 'crazy, kooky stuff' which aims for 'no private property by 2030'" ... aka Green New Deal/Revolution .. how is this not Trotsky-ism?

If you offer the voters free money, so they don't have to work for a living, then they will vote for you.  And if they take enough of that free money, they won't show up for work.  Because communism means that machines will magically make it possible for everyone to be work free.

"Central bankers, government officials and media collaborate to create data and policy to generate a pre-determined outcome for their benefit. They are in the ‘reality creation’ business..." ... voters are incapable of dealing with political-economics at any level.

"Weapons Of Mass Deception .. How politicians & marketers are hacking our psychological vulnerabilities..." ... calling Dr Freud's nephew and Goebbels ...

We don't need European politics, we need American (Western) politics.  In Tombstone, the outlaws and the cooperating county sheriff were Democrats, the Earps were hired as city policemen, by Republicans ;-)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MICPyrnGYwg
Title: Re: The Frailty of Democracy
Post by: Baruch on November 18, 2020, 10:35:33 AM
""What's really turned especially the Europeans, but also many of the Asians, is the fact that their personal private data is going to be owned 100 percent by the Chinese Communist Party," Robert O'Brien said." ... people worldwide will prostitute themselves for free Chinese drugs

"The difference between fiction and reality is that fiction has to make sense" - Tom Clancy

"Better to reign in hell, than serve in heaven" ... Paradise Lost

India journalism open when US journalism is closed .... regarding vote rigging by tabulating machines ... as previously approved for use by CIA/MI6 in foreign countries ...

https://greatgameindia.com/dominion-voting-systems-rigged-us-elections/

That puts the NM mail in ballots in question, since Dominion also controls those ;-( ... and I don't see the need for the ultimate tabulation to be done by a bankrupt company in Spain ...

https://greatgameindia.com/us-election-bankrupted-spanish-scytl/

Elections should have proper paper ballots, votes counted by local officials. by hand.  Only if you are properly locally registered, and have local photo ID.

"Twitter Hires One Of The World's Most Respected Hackers As Its Head Of Security" ... this pattern has been problematic for years ... how can computer illiterate execs trust these people?  Like putting a bank robber in charge of your bank ;-))
Title: Re: The Frailty of Democracy
Post by: Baruch on November 19, 2020, 01:52:28 PM
"The company that bought Dominion Voting Systems a few years ago has deleted their site" ... finding a rock to hide under, like the LinkedIn profiles of Dominion employees.
Title: Re: The Frailty of Democracy
Post by: Baruch on November 22, 2020, 10:21:33 AM
"European Leader Predicts COVID Hell Will Trigger Monumental "Populist Backlash" ... "warns that globalist integration is the only way to combat people rising up..." ... PM of Finland.  Yes, time for the guillotines all over Europe, maybe even Britain.  The EU couldn't put down a peasant revolt, they will need the Chinese Army to help them out.
Title: Re: The Frailty of Democracy
Post by: Draconic Aiur on November 22, 2020, 06:14:26 PM
We should carry this to this thread.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZWRhLW7Y8w&feature=youtu.be

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
Title: Re: The Frailty of Democracy
Post by: Baruch on November 22, 2020, 11:28:32 PM
What if Biden and Trump (aka controlled opposition) are implementing Skynet for Davos and CCP?  You scifi folks love a hot dystopia, am'I right?
Title: Re: The Frailty of Democracy
Post by: Baruch on November 24, 2020, 10:35:07 PM
“A time is coming when men will go mad, and when they see someone who is not mad, they will attack him, saying, 'You are mad; you are not like us.” - St. Anthony the Great

Human beings in general are politically insane.  This is why human beings should not be employed or allowed to vote.

Only highly trained Marxists can be employed or allowed to vote (see Lenin).
Title: Re: The Frailty of Democracy
Post by: Baruch on November 26, 2020, 10:14:28 AM
"SCOTUS Strikes Down Cuomo's Draconian Restrictions On Religious Services In New York"

“It is time — past time — to make plain that, while the pandemic poses many grave challenges, there is no world in which the Constitution tolerates color-coded executive edicts that reopen liquor stores and bike shops but shutter churches, synagogues, and mosques,” Gorsuch argued.

You can use abortion as a general birth control method, but you can't use Covid as a general religion control method ;-)  Time to celebrate!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SPXDAX4Ci8

Mafia Don: "Cuomo Calls Supreme Court Ruling On Churches 'Irrelevant'"
Jewish Don: Hold my chametz
Title: Re: The Frailty of Democracy
Post by: Baruch on November 26, 2020, 06:07:41 PM
Rules for rulers ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rStL7niR7gs

Good political science ... consistent with Machiavelli ...

Middling dictatorships aka oligarchies use ... the people to coup the old ruler.  It is easier to overthrow a democracy if you have declining standards of living.  We saw this in the US in 2020.  The Elites have watched this video and understand it.
Title: Re: The Frailty of Democracy
Post by: Baruch on November 27, 2020, 10:01:16 AM
Question if ... Cuomo locked down synagogues and churches, did he lock down mosques?  No, the Shiites in NY/NJ have an annual religious memorial, which still happened under Covid, with no masks or masks down.  Is DeBlazio an Iran supporter?

"News is something somebody doesn't want printed; all else is advertising.” - William Randolph Hearst

"Florida woman used fake dating profile to advertise 'free meth' at rival's home" .. list under "Why I Don't Support Feminism"

"Crime once exposed, has no refuge but in audacity" - Tacitus ... so now the R-Mafia is exposed, how desperate are they?  D-Mafia, hold my ballots!

The Man Who Mistook His Wife for a Hat - by Oliver Sacks ... case studies of insanity.  Why should anyone allow nut cases vote or run for office?

"Regime change & color revolutions." ... speciality of Obama and Biden, brought to the US for the holidays ;-)
Title: Re: The Frailty of Democracy
Post by: Baruch on November 28, 2020, 11:44:19 AM
"UN Dubs Self 'Trusted' Pandemic News Source, Teams Up With World Economic Forum To Encourage 'New Social Norms'" ... the UN is run by China, the EU, Russia and Iran.  The Congress of 1920 was right to keep us out of the League of Nations.  To bad they weren't smart enough to keep us out of WW I and WW II ... two times of many that Europe tried to commit genocide against itself.