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Humanities Section => Political/Government General Discussion => Topic started by: Kibla92 on September 04, 2020, 06:46:48 PM

Title: California lowers penalty for having sex with a child
Post by: Kibla92 on September 04, 2020, 06:46:48 PM
Guess people were right when they said. Homosexuality would go there in the past

https://www.foxla.com/news/new-california-bill-would-lower-penalties-for-adults-who-have-sexual-relations-with-a-minor
Title: Re: California lowers penalty for having sex with a child
Post by: Blackleaf on September 04, 2020, 06:49:14 PM
Wow. Now you're claiming that homosexuality is a slippery slope to pedophilia? Fuck. You.
Title: Re: California lowers penalty for having sex with a child
Post by: Kibla92 on September 04, 2020, 06:50:18 PM
Wow. Now you're claiming that homosexuality is a slippery slope to pedophilia? Fuck. You.
Just quoting a historic talking point.
People in past said homosexuality is gonna make people marry animals or children... well. 2020, here you go
Title: Re: California lowers penalty for having sex with a child
Post by: PickelledEggs on September 04, 2020, 07:37:04 PM
Consider this an official warning, Kibble. If I see one more bigoted remark like this, I'm giving you a mandatory vacation.
Title: Re: California lowers penalty for having sex with a child
Post by: Mike Cl on September 04, 2020, 07:46:42 PM
Guess people were right when they said. Homosexuality would go there in the past

https://www.foxla.com/news/new-california-bill-would-lower-penalties-for-adults-who-have-sexual-relations-with-a-minor
So, what you are saying is that you did not even read what you highlighted.  Figures. 
Title: Re: California lowers penalty for having sex with a child
Post by: Baruch on September 04, 2020, 11:42:28 PM
Wow. Now you're claiming that homosexuality is a slippery slope to pedophilia? Fuck. You.

Munch noted a year ago that it is pedophiles (and other criminals) doing this slippery slope.  It isn't gays or straights promoting this.  Part of the "I got a beard but I am a woman so let me in the ladies lavatory" crowd.

Unless of course one is ignorant, and think that every non-standard sexual practice = gay, which is simply stereotyping.
Title: Re: California lowers penalty for having sex with a child
Post by: Draconic Aiur on September 04, 2020, 11:44:59 PM
Guess people were right when they said. Homosexuality would go there in the past

https://www.foxla.com/news/new-california-bill-would-lower-penalties-for-adults-who-have-sexual-relations-with-a-minor

From Fox News? Really? In any case the article is false information, because according to the law it says a adult having sex with a minor is illegal. The only thing the bill does is slash unequal cases of being automatically branded a sex-offender from a sexist or homophobic law. The law is applicable only if the adult was within 10 years of age of the minor at the time the offense.

Example they give: If a 18 year-old man has sex with a 17 year-old man it is automatically observed as the 18 year old did a crime. Now if a 24 year old man had sex with a 15 year-old that case is not automatic and left up for the judge to decide.

Title: Re: California lowers penalty for having sex with a child
Post by: Baruch on September 04, 2020, 11:51:17 PM
It was discussed some years ago, how old does X have to be compared to how young Y has to be, for it to count as pedophilia.  An arbitrary line has to be drawn.  Some teachers of kids don't like that arbitrary line.
Title: Re: California lowers penalty for having sex with a child
Post by: Blackleaf on September 05, 2020, 12:16:49 AM
From Fox News? Really? In any case the article is false information, because according to the law it says a adult having sex with a minor is illegal. The only thing the bill does is slash unequal cases of being automatically branded a sex-offender from a sexist or homophobic law. The law is applicable only if the adult was within 10 years of age of the minor at the time the offense.

Example they give: If a 18 year-old man has sex with a 17 year-old man it is automatically observed as the 18 year old did a crime. Now if a 24 year old man had sex with a 15 year-old that case is not automatic and left up for the judge to decide.

I'm confused. So the law as it is now punishes an adult who is only one year older than the minor worse than an adult who is nine years older than the minor?
Title: Re: California lowers penalty for having sex with a child
Post by: Baruch on September 05, 2020, 12:30:22 AM
I'm confused. So the law as it is now punishes an adult who is only one year older than the minor worse than an adult who is nine years older than the minor?

It is confusing.  This is probably a feature not a bug.  Basically instead of setting a fixed rule they created a sliding scale.  I don't see it as a problem, given that California is all nuts all the time anyway.
Title: Re: California lowers penalty for having sex with a child
Post by: Draconic Aiur on September 05, 2020, 02:06:40 AM
I'm confused. So the law as it is now punishes an adult who is only one year older than the minor worse than an adult who is nine years older than the minor?

Yes. Also, there was discrimination of gay vs straight.
Title: Re: California lowers penalty for having sex with a child
Post by: aitm on September 05, 2020, 07:10:33 AM
Age is decided by birth date, when the reality is that one may be only one day older than the younger.
Title: Re: California lowers penalty for having sex with a child
Post by: Baruch on September 05, 2020, 09:40:28 AM
Yes. Also, there was discrimination of gay vs straight.

I don't approve of old men sniffing little girl's hair ;-)
Title: Re: California lowers penalty for having sex with a child
Post by: Baruch on September 05, 2020, 09:41:16 AM
Age is decided by birth date, when the reality is that one may be only one day older than the younger.

Exactly.  Or one can just control one's stupid gonads.  Masturbation has kept me out of jail.
Title: Re: California lowers penalty for having sex with a child
Post by: Mr.Obvious on September 05, 2020, 09:45:51 AM
Exactly.  Or one can just control one's stupid gonads.  Masturbation has kept me out of jail.

The cop must've really enjoyed your handiwork.
Title: Re: California lowers penalty for having sex with a child
Post by: Draconic Aiur on September 05, 2020, 02:18:19 PM
I don't approve of old men sniffing little girl's hair ;-)

The law affects young men and young women.
Title: Re: California lowers penalty for having sex with a child
Post by: Baruch on September 05, 2020, 02:52:58 PM
The law affects young men and young women.

Who need to be locked up in a monastery/convent ;-)  Dirty young people.
Title: Re: California lowers penalty for having sex with a child
Post by: Jason Harvestdancer on September 05, 2020, 10:55:36 PM
Well, yes and no.

The law, as written before this bill, says "big penalty for oral or anal, small penalty for penis in vagina."  The author said "hey that discriminates against gay people."

Instead of making the last one have just as big a penalty, he decided to make the others have just as small a penalty.