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Title: Moral hypocrisy of left wingers in USA "Karen meme"
Post by: Kibla92 on August 29, 2020, 03:13:11 PM
I know its meant to make fun of females who make problems on a ridiculous unnecesary levels. But people often attach this to tough females who can also be conservatives.

So what i understand is. Misogony is wrong... if you arent left winger. Then its totally cool. There is this moral hypocrisy i just hate about left wingers in general.
Although interestingely enough. Wikipedia doesnt have an article on "Soyboy".. Which is interesting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_(pejorative)

Edit: oh... they actually do now. Cool!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soy_boy
Title: Re: Moral hypocrisy of left wingers in USA "Karen meme"
Post by: Baruch on August 29, 2020, 03:49:29 PM
I know its meant to make fun of females who make problems on a ridiculous unnecesary levels. But people often attach this to tough females who can also be conservatives.

So what i understand is. Misogony is wrong... if you arent left winger. Then its totally cool. There is this moral hypocrisy i just hate about left wingers in general.
Although interestingely enough. Wikipedia doesnt have an article on "Soyboy".. Which is interesting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_(pejorative)

Edit: oh... they actually do now. Cool!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soy_boy

Don't forget the Kevins (male Karens).  People are irrational, so hypocrisy isn't sinful, just delusional.
Title: Re: Moral hypocrisy of left wingers in USA "Karen meme"
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on August 29, 2020, 03:54:24 PM
Must burn, eh Kibby?
Title: Re: Moral hypocrisy of left wingers in USA "Karen meme"
Post by: Cassia on August 29, 2020, 06:30:23 PM
"And if your eye got poked out in this life
Would it be waiting up in heaven with your wife?"
Title: Re: Moral hypocrisy of left wingers in USA "Karen meme"
Post by: Baruch on August 29, 2020, 06:31:25 PM
"And if your eye got poked out in this life
Would it be waiting up in heaven with your wife?"


??
Title: Re: Moral hypocrisy of left wingers in USA "Karen meme"
Post by: Mike Cl on August 29, 2020, 07:06:50 PM
I know its meant to make fun of females who make problems on a ridiculous unnecesary levels. But people often attach this to tough females who can also be conservatives.

So what i understand is. Misogony is wrong... if you arent left winger. Then its totally cool. There is this moral hypocrisy i just hate about left wingers in general.
Although interestingely enough. Wikipedia doesnt have an article on "Soyboy".. Which is interesting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_(pejorative)

Edit: oh... they actually do now. Cool!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soy_boy
+
Do you ever make sense???!  Even to yourself...............
Title: Re: Moral hypocrisy of left wingers in USA "Karen meme"
Post by: aitm on August 29, 2020, 08:55:31 PM
How does one make a general statement of females relative to a minuscule fraction and proclaim it to be misogynistic in general?
Title: Re: Moral hypocrisy of left wingers in USA "Karen meme"
Post by: drunkenshoe on August 29, 2020, 09:41:52 PM
Karen is a slang for self entitled, often racist and sexist, angry white women. So left has a point. 

Soy boy is a red pill term which is fundamentally right wing. 
Title: Re: Moral hypocrisy of left wingers in USA "Karen meme"
Post by: Baruch on August 29, 2020, 09:51:07 PM
How does one make a general statement of females relative to a minuscule fraction and proclaim it to be misogynistic in general?

Identity politics works that way.  Whichever maniac can shout the loudest ...
Title: Re: Moral hypocrisy of left wingers in USA "Karen meme"
Post by: Baruch on August 29, 2020, 09:51:44 PM
Karen is a slang for self entitled, often racist and sexist, angry white women. So left has a point. 

Soy boy is a red pill term which is fundamentally right wing.

White women need to rise up and exterminate their enemies ...

Anyone not Marxist = Right wing aka anyone not part of the CCP narrative
Title: Re: Moral hypocrisy of left wingers in USA "Karen meme"
Post by: GSOgymrat on August 29, 2020, 11:29:49 PM
I know its meant to make fun of females who make problems on a ridiculous unnecesary levels. But people often attach this to tough females who can also be conservatives.

So what i understand is. Misogony is wrong... if you arent left winger. Then its totally cool. There is this moral hypocrisy i just hate about left wingers in general.
Although interestingely enough. Wikipedia doesnt have an article on "Soyboy".. Which is interesting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_(pejorative)

Edit: oh... they actually do now. Cool!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soy_boy

I agree that "Karen" is a misogynist insult. Conservatives claim they don't tolerate misogyny, progressives claim they don't tolerate misogyny, so why is it hypocritical for progressives to use the term "Karen" but not conservatives? If you believe conservatives DO tolerate misogyny then the question becomes is it better to aspire to treat women with respect and fail or to not even try.

Title: Re: Moral hypocrisy of left wingers in USA "Karen meme"
Post by: Hydra009 on August 30, 2020, 12:39:39 AM
I agree that "Karen" is a misogynist insult.
Gotta disagree with that.  It's merely a convenient shorthand used to shame people for being obnoxious, self-entitled idiots (sexist in roughly the same way that calling someone a "dick" is sexist).  Note that the condemnation is in response how someone is behaving, not what they are (unlike racial or gender slurs).  And as far as I'm concerned, it's a unisex term.
Title: Re: Moral hypocrisy of left wingers in USA "Karen meme"
Post by: Hydra009 on August 30, 2020, 12:47:04 AM
Karen is a slang for self entitled, often racist and sexist, angry white women. So left has a point.
And not just that (asking for unearned privileges is bad enough), but demanding in ways that are either impractical or impossible to satisfy.

One example I saw recently was a car driving the wrong way demanding that everyone else on the road turn around.  Or attempting to drive through a bicycle race and being upset at being told that the road was closed and demanding to be let through anyway (which would be inherently unsafe)
Title: Re: Moral hypocrisy of left wingers in USA "Karen meme"
Post by: aitm on August 30, 2020, 04:31:52 AM
Yeah, I don’t see how one equates a Karen with misogyny. All “crips” are black, but to say all black are crips is racist, saying all crips are crips is not.
Title: Re: Moral hypocrisy of left wingers in USA "Karen meme"
Post by: drunkenshoe on August 30, 2020, 05:00:19 AM
Guys, Western culture(s) should stop seeing themselves in a giant mirror, asap. Something very simple going on based on the most primitive dynamics but a majority of people act like this is some invented problem of identity politics. There is this comical assumption I see everywhere on the English net that as if in Europe or the US societies basic gender norms are 'abolished' (lol whatever that means) and gender dynamics work differently. They don't.

These women do act this way, because they are white and female. They see themselves as privileged and untouchable above other citizens because of that very identity. 'Race', yes, but gender first. They're exploiting the fact that women can act in various ways in society and get away with it while men can't. This is coming from a very primitive, unwritten social rule. Women and men are treated differently. Do we really need to discuss how and why?

If a man acts that way, sooner or later he'll get a broken nose. Nobody will stop and think if he is strong enough to defend himself. (Let's remind that a lot of men aren't.) A woman will highly likely get away with it on a regular basis. It's as simple as this. There isn't anything complicated behind this invented to target women.

They do not just exist in the US culture alone as I have said before. We have Karens without any White, Black or Hispanic communities. And they have the exact same profile with the American Karens. They have white(er) skin and belong to a certain socio-economical class. They act exactly the same.
Title: Re: Moral hypocrisy of left wingers in USA "Karen meme"
Post by: drunkenshoe on August 30, 2020, 05:07:39 AM
And not just that (asking for unearned privileges is bad enough), but demanding in ways that are either impractical or impossible to satisfy.

One example I saw recently was a car driving the wrong way demanding that everyone else on the road turn around.  Or attempting to drive through a bicycle race and being upset at being told that the road was closed and demanding to be let through anyway (which would be inherently unsafe)

Yep, I know the type very well. We also have 'you can't treat me this way because I'm a mother' type screaming in the most comical situations. 

I've read a moronic piece somewhere 'discussing' if 'Karen' is the N-word for white women. ?! And another long one on how the usage of these word is serving Trump policies because his camp has always been highly worried about getting middle aged, white suburban female group, which by the way apparently the lowest in his numbers since Eisenhower when they started to keep track on these things, lol.

 
Title: Re: Moral hypocrisy of left wingers in USA "Karen meme"
Post by: SGOS on August 30, 2020, 05:56:34 AM
Right wingers should look in a mirror before they start pointing out the hypocrisy of others.
Title: Re: Moral hypocrisy of left wingers in USA "Karen meme"
Post by: Baruch on August 30, 2020, 09:59:24 AM
Right wingers should look in a mirror before they start pointing out the hypocrisy of others.

Queue ... two mirrors facing each other, with ever dimmer infinite images.

Repubs support Hitler - lie
Dems oppose Hitler - lie

The US has been fascist since the McKinley administration
Title: Re: Moral hypocrisy of left wingers in USA "Karen meme"
Post by: Baruch on August 30, 2020, 10:00:30 AM
Guys, Western culture(s) should stop seeing themselves in a giant mirror, asap. Something very simple going on based on the most primitive dynamics but a majority of people act like this is some invented problem of identity politics. There is this comical assumption I see everywhere on the English net that as if in Europe or the US societies basic gender norms are 'abolished' (lol whatever that means) and gender dynamics work differently. They don't.

These women do act this way, because they are white and female. They see themselves as privileged and untouchable above other citizens because of that very identity. 'Race', yes, but gender first. They're exploiting the fact that women can act in various ways in society and get away with it while men can't. This is coming from a very primitive, unwritten social rule. Women and men are treated differently. Do we really need to discuss how and why?

If a man acts that way, sooner or later he'll get a broken nose. Nobody will stop and think if he is strong enough to defend himself. (Let's remind that a lot of men aren't.) A woman will highly likely get away with it on a regular basis. It's as simple as this. There isn't anything complicated behind this invented to target women.

They do not just exist in the US culture alone as I have said before. We have Karens without any White, Black or Hispanic communities. And they have the exact same profile with the American Karens. They have white(er) skin and belong to a certain socio-economical class. They act exactly the same.

Sexist and racist? (sarc) ... there are no approved identities, unless approved by the commissars.
Title: Re: Moral hypocrisy of left wingers in USA "Karen meme"
Post by: Blackleaf on August 30, 2020, 11:06:21 AM
lolwut? Karens are all right-wingers? First I'm hearing it. Somehow I doubt you're really concerned about misogyny. You're just being a typical Alt-Righter, grasping at straws to criticize the left.
Title: Re: Moral hypocrisy of left wingers in USA "Karen meme"
Post by: Kibla92 on August 30, 2020, 01:24:32 PM
Karen is a slang for self entitled, often racist and sexist, angry white women. So left has a point. 

Which is a tossing words by feminine culture who opposes tough people. To coward them in a sense.
Point is the hypocrisy by left wingers, saying they are against misogony... UNLESS YOU ARENT FEMININE THEN SCREW YOU
I get the idea behind it, but its pretty much represented as.. if you arent a whinp like us then we get to call you crap.

I mean left wingers have history of deceit. Vote for communism and there will be no poverty
Vote for this and there will be no racism.

They promise stuff... and then they just make it happen because its profitable. Its a manipulative political platform.
I mean i follow the politicial philosophy from Team America here.
But trusting left wingers when they say stuff is pretty naive aswell
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32iCWzpDpKs
Title: Re: Moral hypocrisy of left wingers in USA "Karen meme"
Post by: Kibla92 on August 30, 2020, 01:32:30 PM
Guys, Western culture(s) should stop seeing themselves in a giant mirror, asap. Something very simple going on based on the most primitive dynamics but a majority of people act like this is some invented problem of identity politics. There is this comical assumption I see everywhere on the English net that as if in Europe or the US societies basic gender norms are 'abolished' (lol whatever that means) and gender dynamics work differently. They don't.

These women do act this way, because they are white and female. They see themselves as privileged and untouchable above other citizens because of that very identity. 'Race', yes, but gender first. They're exploiting the fact that women can act in various ways in society and get away with it while men can't. This is coming from a very primitive, unwritten social rule. Women and men are treated differently. Do we really need to discuss how and why?

There is a word for that. Its an asshole
Bill Burr explains it better than i could. But commenters takes it wrong way. Its basically people who whine about non problems instead of actual problems and abuses their position.

Male feminists, Feminine people. Same thing. They over correct people all the time as a culture.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXgZgD-ObDI
Title: Re: Moral hypocrisy of left wingers in USA "Karen meme"
Post by: drunkenshoe on August 30, 2020, 01:38:27 PM
Kibla92, you are a moron.

Title: Re: Moral hypocrisy of left wingers in USA "Karen meme"
Post by: Cassia on August 30, 2020, 01:39:33 PM
Let us look at just one sentence...
I mean left wingers have history of deceit. Vote for communism

Yeah that's what you think? Liberal Americans want the abolishment of the (somewhat) free market system and government ownership of all means of production? Dead wrong. Liberal Americans want progressive tax, infrastructure improvement and healthcare for our citizens. You may want to hit the books and perhaps won't "seem" so ignorant.
Title: Re: Moral hypocrisy of left wingers in USA "Karen meme"
Post by: aitm on August 30, 2020, 01:43:21 PM
Kibla92, you are a moron.


In case he misread it the first time.
Title: Re: Moral hypocrisy of left wingers in USA "Karen meme"
Post by: Mike Cl on August 30, 2020, 02:16:08 PM
Which is a tossing words by feminine culture who opposes tough people. To coward them in a sense.
Point is the hypocrisy by left wingers, saying they are against misogony... UNLESS YOU ARENT FEMININE THEN SCREW YOU
I get the idea behind it, but its pretty much represented as.. if you arent a whinp like us then we get to call you crap.

I mean left wingers have history of deceit. Vote for communism and there will be no poverty
Vote for this and there will be no racism.

They promise stuff... and then they just make it happen because its profitable. Its a manipulative political platform.
I mean i follow the politicial philosophy from Team America here.
But trusting left wingers when they say stuff is pretty naive aswell
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32iCWzpDpKs
Jesus christ, you are stupid.  Do you live in Alabama???
Title: Re: Moral hypocrisy of left wingers in USA "Karen meme"
Post by: drunkenshoe on August 30, 2020, 02:24:09 PM
(I was writing this to Cassia...)

Typing that sentence requires more than ignorance, or less...depends on how you look at it.

He is throwing certain words around that are marked to him as 'baaad' and fill in the blanks. What does "Vote for communism..." mean in any context? Let's think it means something...in 2020, anywhere, let alone the US? American 'left' says vote for communism, no less. How do people vote for communism in the US? It's like some retarded vernacular. There is no other culture that throws these words around like this. You can be sure that you are talking to an alt-right American. European neo-nazis grew up in ghettos would know the difference between a social theory and a system of social organisations.

There is this word 'communism' which is like the joker in playing cards, you take it and throw it around when you want to express dislike for some idea, right? Then you put the other bad word -which is 'left'- before or after it, voila! It works!

And you expect these people to understand the importance of basics that are required to improve a society overall? What? Am I hearing some people thinking about the 'social state'? You fucking communists! LOLOLOL 
Title: Re: Moral hypocrisy of left wingers in USA "Karen meme"
Post by: Baruch on August 30, 2020, 02:39:57 PM
Let us look at just one sentence...
I mean left wingers have history of deceit. Vote for communism

Yeah that's what you think? Liberal Americans want the abolishment of the (somewhat) free market system and government ownership of all means of production? Dead wrong. Liberal Americans want progressive tax, infrastructure improvement and healthcare for our citizens. You may want to hit the books and perhaps won't "seem" so ignorant.

Euro-communist educated people think different ;-)  All Americans want a free lunch.  Full colonialism so nobody here has to work, just do paper pushing 20 hours per week.  Neo-Liberal isn't woke, it is LARPing Left while being neo-colonial.  Failure to work was handled roughly during the Patriarchy ;-)  Kibla92 is correct about Alphas vs Betas.
Title: Re: Moral hypocrisy of left wingers in USA "Karen meme"
Post by: Kibla92 on August 30, 2020, 03:23:14 PM
Jesus christ, you are stupid.  Do you live in Alabama???
From Norway. Only fictional character i know that is from Alabama is this guy
Sorry but you are not allowed to view spoiler contents.
Title: Re: Moral hypocrisy of left wingers in USA "Karen meme"
Post by: Baruch on August 30, 2020, 03:28:56 PM
From Norway. Only fictional character i know that is from Alabama is this guy
Sorry but you are not allowed to view spoiler contents.

MikeCL has KKK hiding under his bed, from his childhood there.

Biden = Kerensky
Soros = Lenin
Title: Re: Moral hypocrisy of left wingers in USA "Karen meme"
Post by: Kibla92 on August 30, 2020, 03:29:57 PM
MikeCL has KKK hiding under his bed, from his childhood there.

Biden = Kerensky
Soros = Lenin
You inspired me to make a thread on KKK and origins of it. Just a sec
Title: Re: Moral hypocrisy of left wingers in USA "Karen meme"
Post by: Baruch on August 30, 2020, 03:32:36 PM
You inspired me to make a thread on KKK and origins of it. Just a sec

Grandfather/Greatgrandfather were KKK, bwahah.  Nathan Bedford Forest needs to ride again with the Proud Boys.
Title: Re: Moral hypocrisy of left wingers in USA "Karen meme"
Post by: Mike Cl on August 30, 2020, 03:44:05 PM
Yeah, Shoe, it's funny (strange and sad and stupid) the way the rebubs have created trigger words.  Communism is one such.  Combine it with anything and that makes that thing baaaad!  Socialist is now becoming another.  Liberal has been one for awhile.  And the rebub base is just stupid enough to be influenced by those 'sound bites', even if they make no sense.

Trump uses this:  A big lie (German: große Lüge) is a propaganda technique. The expression was coined by Adolf Hitler, when he dictated his 1925 book Mein Kampf, about the use of a lie so "colossal" that no one would believe that someone "could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously".   And he has added to it in that he tells little lies as well. 
Title: Re: Moral hypocrisy of left wingers in USA "Karen meme"
Post by: Baruch on August 30, 2020, 04:16:32 PM
Left is secular Crusaders on their way to the Holy Land.  No wonder they find common cause with Muslim Jihadis.
Title: Re: Moral hypocrisy of left wingers in USA "Karen meme"
Post by: Kibla92 on August 30, 2020, 04:55:03 PM
Yeah, Shoe, it's funny (strange and sad and stupid) the way the rebubs have created trigger words.  Communism is one such.  Combine it with anything and that makes that thing baaaad!  Socialist is now becoming another.  Liberal has been one for awhile.  And the rebub base is just stupid enough to be influenced by those 'sound bites', even if they make no sense.

Trump uses this:  A big lie (German: große Lüge) is a propaganda technique. The expression was coined by Adolf Hitler, when he dictated his 1925 book Mein Kampf, about the use of a lie so "colossal" that no one would believe that someone "could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously".   And he has added to it in that he tells little lies as well.

Here is what i find funny.

Despite how deceitful communism is. 100 million dead (a beautiful song made by All that Remains - Wasteland has a anti communist message). Yet its never come accross as bad by sympathizers. I never have seen a nazi parti in modern time saying "Oh Hitler was a cool guy" but if you are a communist.. oh by all means make groups for it.
Nazism was defeated.. and it killed 6 million people "probably more but Jews hog the holocaust" and somehow anything that puts question mark to the legitimacy of deceit of left is ultimately a nazi. Just seems somehow that being a nazi is worse (and it is) but communism is arguably worse since it murders people in the name of deceit.
Title: Re: Moral hypocrisy of left wingers in USA "Karen meme"
Post by: Mike Cl on August 30, 2020, 05:15:55 PM
Here is what i find funny.

Despite how deceitful communism is. 100 million dead (a beautiful song made by All that Remains - Wasteland has a anti communist message). Yet its never come accross as bad by sympathizers. I never have seen a nazi parti in modern time saying "Oh Hitler was a cool guy" but if you are a communist.. oh by all means make groups for it.
Nazism was defeated.. and it killed 6 million people "probably more but Jews hog the holocaust" and somehow anything that puts question mark to the legitimacy of deceit of left is ultimately a nazi. Just seems somehow that being a nazi is worse (and it is) but communism is arguably worse since it murders people in the name of deceit.
What is a 'communist'?
Title: Re: Moral hypocrisy of left wingers in USA "Karen meme"
Post by: PickelledEggs on August 30, 2020, 05:18:17 PM
Ok, Karen.

Title: Re: Moral hypocrisy of left wingers in USA "Karen meme"
Post by: Cassia on August 30, 2020, 05:19:41 PM
I have been friends with a very nice republican Christian couple for years. They are both obese with high blood pressure, slightly diabetic, minimal education, have no health insurance, live in a white suburb but drink a lot of wine because they are in total debt with no retirement plan, don't wear masks and yet their biggest fear is black and brown people who are fixing to maraud their neighborhood and communists. Just because they are misinformed and not very book smart that doesn't mean I hate them. Like I said they are old friends and are very nice people. Just very unaware of what they should really care about.
Title: Re: Moral hypocrisy of left wingers in USA "Karen meme"
Post by: Baruch on August 30, 2020, 09:15:25 PM
Here is what i find funny.

Despite how deceitful communism is. 100 million dead (a beautiful song made by All that Remains - Wasteland has a anti communist message). Yet its never come accross as bad by sympathizers. I never have seen a nazi parti in modern time saying "Oh Hitler was a cool guy" but if you are a communist.. oh by all means make groups for it.
Nazism was defeated.. and it killed 6 million people "probably more but Jews hog the holocaust" and somehow anything that puts question mark to the legitimacy of deceit of left is ultimately a nazi. Just seems somehow that being a nazi is worse (and it is) but communism is arguably worse since it murders people in the name of deceit.

It was complicated at the time and later obfuscated to protect the usual suspects.  In 1939-1941 Stalin was the ally of Hitler.  They had competing versions of Socialism.  Keep your friends close (Mussolini) and your enemies closer (Stalin).  Earlier they had been opponents in the Spanish Civil War (with anarchists as jokers).  The Hitler-allied Franco beat out both the anarchists (who were everyone's enemy) and the Socialists (supported by Stalin).  Americans who intervened in Spain supported the Socialist side (Abraham Lincoln Brigade).  By the time the Phony War ended, the R-French supported Hitler and the L-French supported Stalin, who were allies.  So France had no skin in that fight, except for DeGaulle.  The R-French were smashed, and the L-French happily surrendered, and joined Hitler as Vichy.  Franco was smart and stayed out of the rest of the war.  Mussolini stabbed the French in the back, to get a little Alpine real estate and glory.

After France got invaded by the British Empire and the US (with Free French under DeGaulle as opera buffa) ... everyone forgot that the French Resistance only went into action after Hitler invaded the Soviet Union, and Stalin activated them (they were L-French).  DeGaulle was the R-French but anti-Vichy.  In other countries, because of Hitler's betrayal of Stalin, everyone forgot where the Communist party loyalty lay (including original AntiFa in Germany) because Stalin was now an ally.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2zrqzvtWio

So except for Hitler's paranoia, Stalin would have come out just as bad-guy image as Hitler, and Communists and Fascists would have no friends today.  Of course the good times with Stalin/Mao/Kim/Ho all ended quickly after the war, as Gen Patton predicted.  Like many anti-English anti-Stalin Americans, he would have sided with Hitler against Stalin, but the two dictators acted random.  People who think that Hitler was right-wing ... are mouthing the opinion of Stalin.  If Hitler was right-wing, he would have restored the Kaiser and stepped down.
Title: Re: Moral hypocrisy of left wingers in USA "Karen meme"
Post by: Blackleaf on August 31, 2020, 02:01:23 AM
...and somehow anything that puts question mark to the legitimacy of deceit of left is ultimately a nazi.

Amazing. The Alt-Right accuse the Left of being easily offended and of language policing, and then they whine about being called names. Does the Alt-Right have ANYTHING to offer besides projection?

When is the last time someone on the Left has called you a Nazi?
Title: Re: Moral hypocrisy of left wingers in USA "Karen meme"
Post by: drunkenshoe on August 31, 2020, 04:17:36 AM
I swear, it's fascinating. I mean, I'm using a second language I have never lived with, and I get that my posts sound weird and grammatically off at times but in the end, English is alien to me.

But these native English speaking people write-talk and esp. use certain words as if they have learned them from a verbal communication only. Exactly the same with the ones here. I experience this in two different languages. It's like we're back in sixteenth-seventeenth centuries. Not just him. But as he is the closest example now, look at the way he is using the word 'deceit'.

"Deceit of left." It's like somebody has been reading from a 'chapbook' or an anonymous dialogue written down to a few pages of parchment regularly -as it was the fashion then- and they're talking through this with some bits and pieces. (You know those? Sold by peddlers? Little booklets? The same illustrations were recycled and often they had no relation to the text, just got put there. short Stories, parables... Often the same male portrait became everyone...villains, heroes...lol) But in this modern one it is like a floating fairy tale telling... 'There was this dark king who lived in the castle right down the blue mountains and he wanted to rule all the lands by magic and deceit. The people of the river saw his lies and ask the red king to stand against the dark king. The red king told the villagers to burn all the hay and wait for him at the dawn someday after the harvest so he will save them and make things great again.'

I was going to say it is like Menocchio came to life, he is sitting by the fire and reading to the illiterate farmers and these people are like those farmers, getting bits and pieces from his readings about some 'things' they have never heard before and then try to convey them to others...but obviously that's a bad analogy because Menocchio was a hero of his time,lol. But the primitive literal mindedness of that time is here somehow. I mean the words are used in a way that makes you feel like it is coming from somewhere several hundred years ago, from a time they didn't exist,lol.

You guys know better than me about how Protestants and Catholics have fought and argued about the allegorical and literal meanings of 'the bread is my flesh, wine is my blood' ritual. Well, they've both read this -pen holders of course- ritual with different kinds of literal mindedness and in a time allegory was condemned and people started to question bible harshly -not serving to realism yet as we know, no- both sides have debated that how the allegorical and/or literal traits become the faith expressed in reality as in 'god's truth'.

I swear, what's happening right now very much resembles to that. At some point, in an extreme dysutopian scenario, these people will claim the American Civil War has never happened and was made up by the Dark King and his men. Exactly like when people have done with wars, historical figures; the existance of Ancient Rome, few hundred years ago. LOLOL

Somebody has to write something solid about this. This being... the literal mindedness of the 21st century.

Title: Re: Moral hypocrisy of left wingers in USA "Karen meme"
Post by: SGOS on August 31, 2020, 08:32:39 AM
Does the Alt-Right have ANYTHING to offer besides projection?
They do have a tendency to overlook their own sins, and project them on others, and even manage to exaggerate those sins wildly.  It often makes me wonder what is really going on in their hearts.
Title: Re: Moral hypocrisy of left wingers in USA "Karen meme"
Post by: Baruch on August 31, 2020, 08:51:54 AM
They do have a tendency to overlook their own sins, and project them on others, and even manage to exaggerate those sins wildly.  It often makes me wonder what is really going on in their hearts.

The alt-Right needs to kill the alt-Left and vice versa.  Burn it all down.  I will be happy as a Centrist, to sell the popcorn.  Yes, the alt-Left has something in their hearts, fake compassion, fake virtue ... mostly drugs and criminality.  Not a good look if you are competing against the alt-Right.
Title: Re: Moral hypocrisy of left wingers in USA "Karen meme"
Post by: aitm on August 31, 2020, 09:15:19 AM
Here is what i find funny.

Despite how deceitful communism is. 100 million dead (a beautiful song made by All that Remains - Wasteland has a anti communist message). Yet its never come accross as bad by sympathizers. I never have seen a nazi parti in modern time saying "Oh Hitler was a cool guy" but if you are a communist.. oh by all means make groups for it.
Nazism was defeated.. and it killed 6 million people "probably more but Jews hog the holocaust" and somehow anything that puts question mark to the legitimacy of deceit of left is ultimately a nazi. Just seems somehow that being a nazi is worse (and it is) but communism is arguably worse since it murders people in the name of deceit.
Jews hog the holocaust? Hmmm.
Title: Re: Moral hypocrisy of left wingers in USA "Karen meme"
Post by: PickelledEggs on August 31, 2020, 09:17:49 AM
I love how no matter what the subject is, Baruch hard-tangents in to "marxism this and marxism that! you better watch out for marxism!"

This is how I know that for the most part, he needs to be not taken seriously.
Title: Re: Moral hypocrisy of left wingers in USA "Karen meme"
Post by: Baruch on August 31, 2020, 09:54:41 AM
I love how no matter what the subject is, Baruch hard-tangents in to "marxism this and marxism that! you better watch out for marxism!"

This is how I know that for the most part, he needs to be not taken seriously.

Trotsky should be taken seriously, he understood Hitler early.  Stalin dealt with him, but he wasn't as smart with Hitler.
Title: Re: Moral hypocrisy of left wingers in USA "Karen meme"
Post by: Baruch on August 31, 2020, 09:56:56 AM
Jews hog the holocaust? Hmmm.

60 million dead in WW II, Jewish civilians are 10% of that, rather high considering their overall pre-war percentage.  But they had the defect of being born in the wrong geography (W & E Europe).  There are plenty of innocent death to deplore, take 30 million aborted infants today?

@Kibla92 ... wrong model of reality ... Middle America is a High Plains Drifter ... we aren't unarmed European peasants anymore!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fc36Hc2n2s

Not the Good, the Bad and the Ugly ... but the Chad, the Cucks and the Normie.  Say his name ... Kyle Rittenhouse, not Jim Duncan this time.

Liberals are the Normies.  The Criminals are the Cucks.   Anyone standing up for law and order are the Chads.  The crybaby Liberals can't let the Criminals out of jail if they don't survive long enough to get there!  Apocalypse is a comin'.  The mouths of Hell have opened up, burn it all down!  Praise Kek!!
Title: Re: Moral hypocrisy of left wingers in USA "Karen meme"
Post by: Hijiri Byakuren on September 04, 2020, 02:33:04 AM
The people who get offended by the term "Karen" almost invariably are Karens themselves. They don't like the fact that there is now a term for their behavior.
Title: Re: Moral hypocrisy of left wingers in USA "Karen meme"
Post by: Jason Harvestdancer on September 06, 2020, 11:17:29 AM
A discussion on Karen got steered into Hitler, Stalin, Marxism, etc.

Ok Karen.  Bye Felicia.
Title: Re: Moral hypocrisy of left wingers in USA "Karen meme"
Post by: Baruch on September 06, 2020, 03:09:39 PM
A discussion on Karen got steered into Hitler, Stalin, Marxism, etc.

Ok Karen.  Bye Felicia.

Godwin's Law writ large.  Nothing is worth talking about except tyrants.