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Title: Russia Bounties on Coalition Forces in Afghanistan
Post by: Shiranu on June 26, 2020, 08:31:20 PM

On top of Russia paying bounties to terrorist forces in Afghanistan on American and Coalition soldiers, Trump has apparently known about this since March and yet has continuously called for Russia to be admitted back into the g8 and European community.


Nothing says "Support the Troops" like supporting a hostile foreign state who has attempted to rig American elections, uses propaganda to spread division amongst our population and places bounties on the soldiers.

Can we call treason treason now?

https://www.politicususa.com/2020/06/26/trump-putin-bounty-us-troops.html


QuoteAmerican intelligence officials have concluded that a Russian military intelligence unit secretly offered bounties to Taliban-linked militants for killing coalition forces in Afghanistan â€" including targeting American troops â€" amid the peace talks to end the long-running war there, according to officials briefed on the matter.

The United States concluded months ago that the Russian unit, which has been linked to assassination attempts and other covert operations in Europe intended to destabilize the West or take revenge on turncoats, had covertly offered rewards for successful attacks last year.

The intelligence finding was briefed to President Trump, and the White House’s National Security Council discussed the problem at an interagency meeting in late March, the officials said.

Putin placed a bounty on the heads of US troops in Afghanistan that was collected upon by militants, and Donald Trump has done nothing in response.

Trump wouldn’t stand up to Putin on Russian election interference in 2016, and he is rolling over even as Putin is paying for US troops to be killed in Afghanistan. The families of those service members who Russia paid the bounty on deserve to know why Trump has let Putin pay for the murder of the loved ones with no consequences.

It is a given that Trump is weak and corrupt, but this reporting reveals that even though he claims to love the military, Trump is doing nothing as Russia is rewarding militants for killing Americans.
Title: Re: Russia Bounties on Coalition Forces in Afghanistan
Post by: Baruch on June 27, 2020, 12:18:21 AM
Russia denies this.  But then they would.  Trump would deny this.  But then he would.  The Deep State promotes this narrative.  But then they would.  Unless one is married to a Taliban or Russian intelligence agent who talks in their sleep, one can't know if this is true of not.  Otherwise there is still WMD hidden in Iraq that Cheny just couldn't find ;-(
Title: Re: Russia Bounties on Coalition Forces in Afghanistan
Post by: GSOgymrat on June 27, 2020, 07:20:29 AM
"It is completely believable that the president of the United States mobilized on a national level to protect statues of dead racists but couldn't mobilize to protect American soldiers serving over seas... in months"

https://youtu.be/xw1YyMJ6NUg
Title: Re: Russia Bounties on Coalition Forces in Afghanistan
Post by: Baruch on June 27, 2020, 07:59:40 AM
In 2020, believe nothing, nothing - Sgt Schultz

Yes, we must nuke Russian now - Hillary Clinton, John Bolton, other nut house residents

Ignore the fact that China is F*ing you up your ass, because it feels so good ...
Title: Re: Russia Bounties on Coalition Forces in Afghanistan
Post by: Baruch on June 29, 2020, 09:01:03 AM
"All Players In The NYT 'Russian Bounties' In Afghanistan Story Have Slammed It As Fake News" ... Deep State BS to increase fear of Russia and decrease fear of China
Title: Re: Russia Bounties on Coalition Forces in Afghanistan
Post by: Mike Cl on June 29, 2020, 09:18:06 AM
Trump has replied that he knew nothing about it and that the fake-news media made it up.  And US Intelligence did not brief him.  So, what do we know.  That trump always lies.  So, he knew about it and was briefed by US Intel.  No question.................
Title: Re: Russia Bounties on Coalition Forces in Afghanistan
Post by: SGOS on June 29, 2020, 12:02:23 PM
Given what we know about Trump's affection for Putin, he would say it's fake.  Maybe he doesn't know about it.  Why would US intelligence release classified information to Trump?  He would just put it on Twitter and blame Obama.  This warrants enough suspicion that discounting it would be naive, unless you actually support Trump, and most Trump supporters would discount it.  At any rate, Trump should stop appeasing Russia and covering for Putin.
Title: Re: Russia Bounties on Coalition Forces in Afghanistan
Post by: Hydra009 on June 29, 2020, 12:24:42 PM
Iran places its own bounty (https://www.smh.com.au/world/middle-east/iran-issues-arrest-warrant-for-donald-trump-requests-help-from-interpol-20200629-p557el.html)

Hey, what goes around comes around.  Someone who sells out Americans shouldn't be too surprised.  Maybe we could have a presidential dog in the interim and promise to be cool to each other until the next election?
Title: Re: Russia Bounties on Coalition Forces in Afghanistan
Post by: Baruch on June 29, 2020, 02:37:41 PM
Quote from: Hydra009 on June 29, 2020, 12:24:42 PM
Iran places its own bounty (https://www.smh.com.au/world/middle-east/iran-issues-arrest-warrant-for-donald-trump-requests-help-from-interpol-20200629-p557el.html)

Hey, what goes around comes around.  Someone who sells out Americans shouldn't be too surprised.  Maybe we could have a presidential dog in the interim and promise to be cool to each other until the next election?

No, kill everyone, now!  What about the warrant on President Maduro of Venezuela?  Oh i know, some people support drugs so support the traffic from Columbia thru Mexico and from China thru Mexico ... which where all in George Floyd's blood stream.
Title: Re: Russia Bounties on Coalition Forces in Afghanistan
Post by: Mike Cl on June 30, 2020, 09:24:10 AM
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/white-house-aware-russian-bounties-2019_n_5efaa7a8c5b6acab284609c9

White House Was Aware Of Russian Bounties In Early 2019: Report
Top officials were aware a year earlier than previously reported that Russia was secretly offering bounties to the Taliban for the deaths of Americans, according to Associated Press sources.

I don't know who I'm angrier at--trump because he is simply a traitor to this country; maybe the worst we have ever had; or the Intel/Military who knew of this for over a year and just sat on their butts and did nothing to bring a traitor to justice. 
Title: Re: Russia Bounties on Coalition Forces in Afghanistan
Post by: Baruch on June 30, 2020, 09:28:24 AM
Why aren't you in the Army now?  Sofa warrior ;-)  You hate Trump like Booth hated Lincoln.  Got Ford's Theater tickets?

"Buried In All The Sensational "Russian Bounty" Headlines: Intel Chiefs Back White House Position" ... unconfirmed raw data.  Not enough to bother the POTUS with.  Time for all sensational panic modes to engage.  Support Intel chiefs, as long as they diss their boss.
Title: Re: Russia Bounties on Coalition Forces in Afghanistan
Post by: Hydra009 on June 30, 2020, 08:28:01 PM
Senate republicans remove provision for campaigns to disclose foreign "help" (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/06/republicans-remove-provision-in-bill-that-would-require-political-campaigns-report-help-from-foreign-country-like-russia/)

(https://www.meme-arsenal.com/memes/36fec3a6c6c9d7a4e20c6ff3f4d0b1ad.jpg)
Title: Re: Russia Bounties on Coalition Forces in Afghanistan
Post by: Draconic Aiur on July 01, 2020, 05:52:09 AM
Quote from: Hydra009 on June 30, 2020, 08:28:01 PM
Senate republicans remove provision for campaigns to disclose foreign "help" (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/06/republicans-remove-provision-in-bill-that-would-require-political-campaigns-report-help-from-foreign-country-like-russia/)

(https://www.meme-arsenal.com/memes/36fec3a6c6c9d7a4e20c6ff3f4d0b1ad.jpg)

Motherfuckers
Title: Re: Russia Bounties on Coalition Forces in Afghanistan
Post by: Baruch on July 01, 2020, 09:48:45 AM
I consider all Democrats to be foreigners.  So if a D candidate even helps himself, he is corrupting the election ;-)

"Trump Never Briefed On Unvetted Russian Bounty Intel Because NSA "Strongly Dissented"" ... proof the NSA are Russian stooges

"A core principle of the academic movement that shot through elite schools in America since the early nineties was the view that individual rights, humanism, and the democratic process are all just stalking-horses for white supremacy. The concept, as articulated in books like former corporate consultant Robin DiAngelo’s White Fragility (Amazon’s #1 seller!) reduces everything, even the smallest and most innocent human interactions, to racial power contests.' ... Yuri Bezmenov told you so.  So yes, the Communist Manifesto is so old ... needed replacing.
Title: Re: Russia Bounties on Coalition Forces in Afghanistan
Post by: Jason Harvestdancer on July 03, 2020, 09:44:36 PM
Unnamed sources inside the intelligence community?  Uh-huh.

This is the (hopefully) last gasp of the ridiculous Russia conspiracy theory.
Title: Re: Russia Bounties on Coalition Forces in Afghanistan
Post by: Mike Cl on July 03, 2020, 10:57:35 PM
Quote from: Jason Harvestdancer on July 03, 2020, 09:44:36 PM
Unnamed sources inside the intelligence community?  Uh-huh.

This is the (hopefully) last gasp of the ridiculous Russia conspiracy theory.
What is truly ridiculous with the Russia conspiracy hypothesis, is that the traitorous orange lump has been allowed to continue his traitorous acts.
Title: Re: Russia Bounties on Coalition Forces in Afghanistan
Post by: Hydra009 on July 03, 2020, 11:26:06 PM
Quote from: Jason Harvestdancer on July 03, 2020, 09:44:36 PMUnnamed sources inside the intelligence community?  Uh-huh.
Hmmm...why might an active member of the intelligence community might not want his/her name in the newspaper?  That's a real stumper right there.

QuoteThis is the (hopefully) last gasp of the ridiculous Russia conspiracy theory.
Weird how you and Trump phrase it so similarly.  Personally, if he says it's fake news, that's all the more reason to investigate it fully and make sure.  The guy is such a notorious liar that he'd probably say that vaccines cause autism or that climate change is a hoax invented by the Chinese or that he won the popular vote.

Apparently, it's substantial enough that both parties in Congress were briefed about it behind closed doors (https://www.axios.com/senate-intelligence-committee-russia-bounties-62fb8075-2d1c-4759-af80-f7536ac64847.html).  They came away with...varied...interpretations.

And besides, since when have you disliked conspiracy theories?
Title: Re: Russia Bounties on Coalition Forces in Afghanistan
Post by: Hydra009 on July 03, 2020, 11:35:21 PM
Evidentially, bringing up Russia to Trump (https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-got-angry-if-warned-about-russia-so-officials-avoided-2020-7) in any official capacity throws the Orange Blunder into a bit of tizzy.  Very strange behavior for such a virtuous patriot who couldn't possibly be in any way beholden to Putin.
Title: Re: Russia Bounties on Coalition Forces in Afghanistan
Post by: Baruch on July 03, 2020, 11:47:46 PM
Quote from: Hydra009 on July 03, 2020, 11:35:21 PM
Evidentially, bringing up Russia to Trump (https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-got-angry-if-warned-about-russia-so-officials-avoided-2020-7) in any official capacity throws the Orange Blunder into a bit of tizzy.  Very strange behavior for such a virtuous patriot who couldn't possibly be in any way beholden to Putin.

Or any Dem beholden to CCP .. Hunter Biden, 1.5 billion dollar deal, in China?
Title: Re: Russia Bounties on Coalition Forces in Afghanistan
Post by: Baruch on July 03, 2020, 11:48:25 PM
Quote from: Jason Harvestdancer on July 03, 2020, 09:44:36 PM
Unnamed sources inside the intelligence community?  Uh-huh.

This is the (hopefully) last gasp of the ridiculous Russia conspiracy theory.

CIA of old, just assassinated any President who got in their way, or Watergated them.
Title: Re: Russia Bounties on Coalition Forces in Afghanistan
Post by: Jason Harvestdancer on July 04, 2020, 08:12:34 AM
Quote from: Hydra009 on July 03, 2020, 11:26:06 PM
Weird how you and Trump phrase it so similarly.

There are only so many ways to phrase "I don't believe it".  Any two people who don't believe it will "phrase it so similarly".
Title: Re: Russia Bounties on Coalition Forces in Afghanistan
Post by: Shiranu on July 04, 2020, 09:41:49 AM
Quote from: Jason Harvestdancer on July 04, 2020, 08:12:34 AM
There are only so many ways to phrase "I don't believe it".  Any two people who don't believe it will "phrase it so similarly".

What exactly is far-fetched about a hostile foreign nation taking steps to destabilize our democracy or place bounty on our troops, particularly when we know they do it in other Western nations?
Title: Re: Russia Bounties on Coalition Forces in Afghanistan
Post by: Jason Harvestdancer on July 04, 2020, 10:26:44 AM
Quote from: Shiranu on July 04, 2020, 09:41:49 AM
What exactly is far-fetched about a hostile foreign nation taking steps to destabilize our democracy or place bounty on our troops, particularly when we know they do it in other Western nations?

It is theoretically possible.

OTOH, there has been so much credibility lost in the repeated failures of "muh russia" that there is now a higher bar than "an unnamed guy said it."  For an example on credibility, if Kent Hovind were to tell me the sky is blue I would have to go out and check.
Title: Re: Russia Bounties on Coalition Forces in Afghanistan
Post by: Baruch on July 04, 2020, 10:41:07 AM
Quote from: Shiranu on July 04, 2020, 09:41:49 AM
What exactly is far-fetched about a hostile foreign nation taking steps to destabilize our democracy or place bounty on our troops, particularly when we know they do it in other Western nations?

We do much worse than that.  Remember the 500,000 children in Iraq who died under Clinton?  But the point is, unless Trump is John Wayne (oh, the guy the Californicators want to de-person) he should resign or something.  At least he hasn't killed 500,000 children in Iraq.
Title: Re: Russia Bounties on Coalition Forces in Afghanistan
Post by: Hydra009 on July 04, 2020, 01:32:04 PM
Quote from: Jason Harvestdancer on July 04, 2020, 10:26:44 AM
It is theoretically possible.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Links_between_Trump_associates_and_Russian_officials

It might be a little bit more than theoretically possible.  Imo, it's pretty obvious that you are underselling this for purely partisan reasons.
Title: Re: Russia Bounties on Coalition Forces in Afghanistan
Post by: Baruch on July 04, 2020, 01:43:41 PM
Quote from: Hydra009 on July 04, 2020, 01:32:04 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Links_between_Trump_associates_and_Russian_officials

It might be a little bit more than theoretically possible.  Imo, it's pretty obvious that you are unselling this for purely partisan reasons.

He did business with Russians.  As a businessman.  Are all businessmen Russian spies?  Have you bought anything at Walmart?  Are you a Chinese spy?  I think anyone who did business with Germany since 1945 is a Nazi ;-)  Biden did business with Ukrainian oligarchs, successfully suborned Ukrainian officials, used his son to take bribes from Burisma.  Does that mean that Biden is a Ukrainian secret agent?

Obama wasn't a businessman.  But that doesn't mean he didn't take bribes from foreign governments (Biden was his VP, Obama made a color revolution in Ukraine, made Biden the American vice-roy of the Ukraine).  What was Biden's qualification to be the American vice-roy in the Ukraine?  How come so many politicians end up with a lot more money than just their political salaries would allow?  When you do that, in the Intel world, you are suspected of treason.  This is why criminals use money laundering (Hunter Biden money laundered thru banks in Estonia).
Title: Re: Russia Bounties on Coalition Forces in Afghanistan
Post by: Jason Harvestdancer on July 04, 2020, 03:33:57 PM
Oh yes, Baruch.  Every single person who ever met a Russian at any time in their life is a Russian agent and proof of the Muh Russia conspiracy theory.
Title: Re: Russia Bounties on Coalition Forces in Afghanistan
Post by: Baruch on July 04, 2020, 05:26:25 PM
Quote from: Jason Harvestdancer on July 04, 2020, 03:33:57 PM
Oh yes, Baruch.  Every single person who ever met a Russian at any time in their life is a Russian agent and proof of the Muh Russia conspiracy theory.

In HS, I took Russian for 4 years.  I am a card carrying Stalinist ;-)
Title: Re: Russia Bounties on Coalition Forces in Afghanistan
Post by: Jason Harvestdancer on July 04, 2020, 05:40:57 PM
I went to college with some Russian exchange students back in the 90's.  I had a bit of a crush on one of them.  I'm practically a KGB agent.
Title: Re: Russia Bounties on Coalition Forces in Afghanistan
Post by: Baruch on July 04, 2020, 05:44:32 PM
Quote from: Jason Harvestdancer on July 04, 2020, 05:40:57 PM
I went to college with some Russian exchange students back in the 90's.  I had a bit of a crush on one of them.  I'm practically a KGB agent.

Exchanging cooties with a Russian girl?  Part of their germ warfare program, you monster! ;-)