Felt like this deserved it's own thread for the absurdity of it.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=13kaqcrd3bk
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SVrONnYL1vI
I have heard enough Reddit stories of Karen's and what they do but most stories sound kind of exaggerated. Here however we see a Karen out in full force, proof that they do exist.
I heard she got fired from her job after this story broke?
She clearly thought she knew what she was doing by using the African American man angle to get the police on her side.
Her handling of the dog makes me want to take my work boots to her skull however.
Quote from: Munch on June 02, 2020, 10:56:36 PM
Felt like this deserved it's own thread for the absurdity of it.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=13kaqcrd3bk
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SVrONnYL1vI
I have heard enough Reddit stories of Karen's and what they do but most stories sound kind of exaggerated. Here however we see a Karen out in full force, proof that they do exist.
I heard she got fired from her job after this story broke?
She clearly thought she knew what she was doing by using the African American man angle to get the police on her side.
Her handling of the dog makes he want to take my work boots to her skull however.
This is based on a racist sexist meme.
QuoteBefore the general public learned the name of a white woman who called the police on a black man in Central Park on May 25, she could easily be identified by a moniker. The internet agreed with certainty that Amy Cooper was a Karen.
Just days later, another Karen went viral for leaning on a car in a parking lot to prevent the driver from getting their desired parking spot.
The "Karen meme," which has become so ubiquitous it's been used as a Halloween costume, burst onto the scene in the last couple of years to depict white women â€" who stereotypically had "speak to the manager" haircuts â€" acting entitled in public. Now, it's used as an identifier for any white woman who acts inappropriately, rudely, or in an entitled fashion.
"It's usually used as a pejorative for middle-aged white women," said Matt Schimkowitz, a senior editor at Know Your Meme, the online meme encyclopedia. "It's almost like they have an entitlement, where they're kind of lording their privilege over another."
https://www.insider.com/karen-meme-origin-the-history-of-calling-women-karen-white-2020-5
Prejudice and bigotry are justified. Sorry, people are shits.
Quote from: Draconic Aiur on June 02, 2020, 11:03:24 PM
This is based on a racist sexist meme.
https://www.insider.com/karen-meme-origin-the-history-of-calling-women-karen-white-2020-5
That article was made back in may, and they don't know where the Karen meme started themselves. The Karen thing has been floating around on Reddit stories for a number of years now, and it's a wrong assumption that it only applies to white women, since any woman of any colour and nationality can be a Karen.
Quote from: Munch on June 02, 2020, 11:25:44 PM
That article was made back in may, and they don't know where the Karen meme started themselves. The Karen thing has been floating around on Reddit stories for a number of years now, and it's a wrong assumption that it only applies to white women, since any woman of any colour and nationality can be a Karen.
Women are sexist, in a typically feminine way. Doesn't make it wrong, just annoying as hell. My Ex is a big bad Karen.
Quote from: Munch on June 02, 2020, 11:25:44 PM
That article was made back in may, and they don't know where the Karen meme started themselves. The Karen thing has been floating around on Reddit stories for a number of years now, and it's a wrong assumption that it only applies to white women, since any woman of any colour and nationality can be a Karen.
There is a Wikipedia article on Karen: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_(slang)
Quote from: Munch on June 02, 2020, 10:56:36 PMI have heard enough Reddit stories of Karen's and what they do but most stories sound kind of exaggerated.
There are some really entitled people out there who absolutely will scream and threaten service workers over the slightest inconvenience. I've seen some of it personally.
Karens are real. I interact with them often in my line of work.
The male versions are called Kevins. I get a lot of them, too.
Seriously? They are calling Amy Cooper, Karen? Talk about trivialising. They're real, but it is light for her.
There is a huge difference between Karens -we have tons too- and someone who threatens a person's life by their own skin colour via calling cops. Karen's are mostly self entitled women/men who are mostly about getting attention or 'taken seriously' and listened. They're absolute piece of shits and do anything to get their way but Amy Cooper's behaviour is something else.
She lied to armed forces on the spot by changing her voice feigning being assaulted by a 'black' man. She weaponised racism to harm an innocent man. This is practically a death threat, I'm sure you are aware of that? The very reason she is doing is that black people being shot by dead by cops. What if the man didn't have a phone. I go out without my phone in short distances all the time. And what if cops came and shot him dead?
She knew all of this. That woman knew exactly what she was doing, that she was putting that man's life in danger by calling cops and relying on blatant racism she knows is there.
Karen? You are kidding right?
Also, I don't want to talk big on this but it is fucking Central Park in daylight, guys. She was never in danger.
I remember reading somewhere that the dog was taken from her. Not sure if it is correct. On top of everything, dogs being dogs, the poor animal will be broken hearted because of being separated from his owner.
Quote from: Hijiri Byakuren on June 03, 2020, 02:06:12 AM
Karens are real. I interact with them often in my line of work.
The male versions are called Kevins. I get a lot of them, too.
Ah... yeah, you would. I'm sure you know how to handle them but just a reminder. Never lose your cool and calm. That drives them mad and make it easier for other people to recognise the situation for what's really happening. Because that's the whole power they try to 'wield' if you will. People around.
Karens have more leverage than Kevins in public altercations. Because they're females and they have more 'barriers' around them in public life. They usually have some status or think they have because of their job, wealth and race.
Kevins are -at least here- usually big men or have the physical traits/abilities to defend themselves from any possible physical altercation any situtaion can end in. The status, race, wealth thing goes for them too of course, but the thing is men always attack other men easier and faster than they attack women. Men are always likely to be less patient with men. They are more outside all their lives, more likely to get in fights and take risks. So they have less barriers around them in in public life.
Quote from: drunkenshoe on June 03, 2020, 02:40:56 AM
Seriously? They are calling Amy Cooper, Karen? Talk about trivialising. They're real, but it is light for her.
There is a huge difference between Karens -we have tons too- and someone who threatens a person's life by their own skin colour via calling cops. Karen's are mostly self entitled women/men who are mostly about getting attention or 'taken seriously' and listened. They're absolute piece of shits and do anything to get their way but Amy Cooper's behaviour is something else.
She lied to armed forces on the spot by changing her voice feigning being assaulted by a 'black' man. She weaponised racism to harm an innocent man. This is practically a death threat, I'm sure you are aware of that? The very reason she is doing is that black people being shot by dead by cops. What if the man didn't have a phone. I go out without my phone in short distances all the time. And what if cops came and shot him dead?
She knew all of this. That woman knew exactly what she was doing, that she was putting that man's life in danger by calling cops and relying on blatant racism she knows is there.
Karen? You are kidding right?
Also, I don't want to talk big on this but it is fucking Central Park in daylight, guys. She was never in danger.
There is a perpetual war of the sexes. Women by nature and necessity, practice asymmetrical warfare. So do Beta males ;-) But men are attacked first by other men, for the obvious reason they are more immediately dangerous. Women are more dangerous but less immediate.
Kevins! I am reminded by that character that appears briefly a couple of times in Breaking Bad. He's always talking real loud in crowded places on his cell phone. Everything he says is macho and offensive. He may even describe on the phone the ass of the woman who is standing right in front of him. Eventually, Walter White runs into him a second time at a gas station, and while he's talking on his phone inside the building, Walter shorts out his battery terminals and starts a fire, which blows up his flashy red convertible. You never see him again in the series, and he adds absolutely zero context to the story. But he should get an award for "best irrelevant actor having nothing to do with a series." They could make another spin off series with him in the lead.
Karens and Kevins desperately need audience.
Quote from: drunkenshoe on June 03, 2020, 09:09:24 AM
Karens and Kevins desperately need audience.
Yes, removing an audience from someone who is angry because they feel their needs are not being met or not being heard is a good strategy.
Quote from: drunkenshoe on June 03, 2020, 04:03:43 AM
I remember reading somewhere that the dog was taken from her. Not sure if it is correct. On top of everything, dogs being dogs, the poor animal will be broken hearted because of being separated from his owner.
She was basically strangling her dog while on the phone. I don't think she's even had the dog for long. The shelter she got it from has taken it back.
Quote from: GSOgymrat on June 03, 2020, 09:20:23 AM
Yes, removing an audience from someone who is angry because they feel their needs are not being met or not being heard is a good strategy.
Karens and Kevins are not some people whose needs are refused to be met and so act in distress or even just get rude because they're not listened or heard. Countless people get into that situation. We are talking about something different.
They are a very common type of people found in every culture, who pick something trivial, blow it out of porportion, actually often
create a situation and almost always use it to exert power over people in specific positions which they see as 'inferior' to themselves.
You don't see a Karen or a Kevin trying to be 'heard and act around' because of something done by someone more 'powerful' or they think are 'superior', even to someone they think 'equal' to them. It's either a sales clerk, waiters and waitresses, people who work in service positions or jobs called menial, very often
young people AND mostly young
men.
Furthermore, I will emphasize the young
men part because they're the most common target for both Karens and Kevins. That's my personal experience.
So they're not a bunch of angry people because they're not heard. They are angry, narcissistic douchebags who love to take opportunities to go as far as slandering, smearing people on the spot for trivial things that can take their livelyhoods or ruin their reputations, if they cannot get the attention or whatever they want. And if you could follow one, you'd see it is not a one time thing. I guarantee you that. It's a form of existence, a repeated form of behaviour.
I don't give a damn about the meme. I have observed and witnessed enough of them in my life and while young and fool even tried to stood against a few, coming pretty close to real trouble. From rich housewives, businessmen to professors. They are not 21st century characters or just some new generation meme. They have always existed. If you prefer we can call them Pete and Mary but they would be the victims of Karens and Kevins.
Quote from: Blackleaf on June 03, 2020, 09:41:54 AM
She was basically strangling her dog while on the phone. I don't think she's even had the dog for long. The shelter she got it from has taken it back.
I hope the dog's luck will get better next time.
Quote from: Hijiri Byakuren on June 03, 2020, 02:06:12 AM
Karens are real. I interact with them often in my line of work.
The male versions are called Kevins. I get a lot of them, too.
I worked with a Karen in my last retail role, and her actual name really was karen. She was bossy, always had a bad attitude even with customers, shouted at those below her on the work force and always thought of herself as manager when she was just a supervisor. Has to often come to the aid of other workmates after she got done putting them down and even a few times got her attitude redirected at me away from new workers just to spare them from her.
I only recently learned of the new nomenclature for such behavior. I just call them ass-holes. I don't think I would take a persons proper name and stick it as a post it note. Well, Dick was done long before my time.
Quote from: aitm on June 04, 2020, 08:24:37 AM
I only recently learned of the new nomenclature for such behavior. I just call them ass-holes. I don't think I would take a persons proper name and stick it as a post it note. Well, Dick was done long before my time.
LOL Yeah, that's the proper noun. Kids call them Karens and Kevins. They have people's name for it here too. (The male version is a dog's name though. :/)