yeah. People what things to change for the better there. These violent protests are not helping that however, its just making things worse.
yeah. People what things to change for the better there. These violent protests are not helping that however, its just making things worse.
Oh you are living in another land of fake sense of security. How old were you during the London riots in 2011?
The airs you put on whenever something like this happens in the US is annoying the hell out of me. As if we didn't know what kind of a shit hole you live in underneath all that pose and bullshit.
In America, you join a political party, become a party activist, and work for change. This is what they do in the UK too. It is what is done in every civilized country. Group justice aka mob violence, has never improved any society, ever. Revolutions come when one establishment displaces a previous establishment. There might be a bit of Terror during the transition, but you have to break eggs to make an omelet. Napoleon who grapeshot cannoned Parisien rioters would agree. Lenin first got rid of his allies, the Anarchists. Lenin got where he was thru German war plans. Were the peasants in Russia unhappy? They had plenty of reasons to. But the Soviet Union was just a more modern way of being a %&$&& Russian.
Drunkenshoe ... yes communism is the only way. French/German communism is superior to Russian communism. But the EU is going to be dominated by Chinese communism. They can't stop kow towing. With Russian Nord Stream assistance ;-)
Not in the mood for your bullshit Baruch. Seriously.
White people don’t riot because they have too much to lose and nothing to gain. They are still unconvinced that blacks have faced entire lives battling racism in many forms, some minor but every cut stings.
White people can never understand systemic racism, they can’t. How could they?
What I take from all the whites screaming “that’s not protesting that’s rioting!” is they admit their own cowardice, they admit, if they were in the other shoes they would simply walk along holding a sign...day after day, month after month, year after year. No matter how many of their family or friends were set upon, they would do nothing. Cowards.
White people don’t riot because they have too much to lose and nothing to gain. They are still unconvinced that blacks have faced entire lives battling racism in many forms, some minor but every cut stings.
I don't think that's what he means.
We’re on our third day of protests downtown; county emergency management is advising avoiding the downtown area.I understand and agree with you. The peaceful protest has not worked. Even on the advice of a veteran kneeling as a peaceful protest doesn't work. peaceful protests don't work.
I can sort of understand throwing rocks at the state house, city hall, police HQ -- I don’t approve of the violence, but that seems to me to be political action more than just destruction for destruction’s sake, and Bob knows there’s sufficient reason for the rage.
I do not understand busting up theaters and shops that just happen to be there. At a minimum, that’s counterproductive; I can sympathize to some degree with an attack on the places of power. I cannot sympathize with the destruction of a historic theater, a convenience store, a restaurant.
Things are more peaceful today -- but yesterday, our congresswoman, one of our county commissioners and our president of City Council got pepper-sprayed. And yes, they are all three African-American.
And just ten minutes ago, they have announced a curfew from 10pm to 6am until further notice and activated the state National Guard to deal with the protests.
This is why “May you live in interesting times” is a curse.
I understand and agree with you. The peaceful protest has not worked. Even on the advice of a veteran kneeling as a peaceful protest doesn't work. peaceful protests don't work.
Hello Malcolm XUntrue.
Violent protests don't work either
yeah. People what things to change for the better there. These violent protests are not helping that however, its just making things worse.
The riots are certainly not a good thing, but it is the only way these people are heard. You know how many people were completely apathetic to the murder of George Floyd, but are suddenly invested in the riots? A lot of people. They are part of the problem.
Racists in uniforms are allowed free reign to discriminate, harass, and even murder people of color, and the government covers up for them. I guarantee you, if there was no photographic or video evidence of the crime, nothing would have happened to the cops. Now those involved have been fired. What a slap on the wrist that is. You know what happens to people who are suspected of murder when they're not wearing a badge? They go to prison to await trail. But these guys get to wait at home, surrounded by guards to protect them until things blow over, while Conservatives play the "innocent until proven guilty" card.
honestly, you guys over there just have a complete systematic problem all over. Your gun laws are easy and while they remains there won't be a end to things like mass shootings or all other related gun crime. Living in such a state of tension its no wonder police develop violent and trigger happy tendencies, and the worst of them it just brings out the crocked states of mind like seeing anyone they deem less then themselves as a threat and so abuse the power they have.Add to that the fact that these violent tendencies are ignored or excused. So someone that's been roughing up people unnecessarily for years "accidentally" kills a defenseless person. Oopsie! My bad. Guess I'll go on paid leave for a couple months.
Hello Malcolm X
Violent protests don't work either, and especially won't work with a guy like trump as your commander and chief.
[Is there somewhere the rich Californians don't move in hordes in the States? I have been listening same things from OR and WA for years now. Inflated real estate prices.]
E: An intact apsis looks fine considering the circumstances.
Oh, you ain't seen nothin' yet.
The riots are certainly not a good thing, but it is the only way these people are heard. You know how many people were completely apathetic to the murder of George Floyd, but are suddenly invested in the riots? A lot of people. They are part of the problem.
Racists in uniforms are allowed free reign to discriminate, harass, and even murder people of color, and the government covers up for them. I guarantee you, if there was no photographic or video evidence of the crime, nothing would have happened to the cops. Now those involved have been fired. What a slap on the wrist that is. You know what happens to people who are suspected of murder when they're not wearing a badge? They go to prison to await trail. But these guys get to wait at home, surrounded by guards to protect them until things blow over, while Conservatives play the "innocent until proven guilty" card.
honestly, you guys over there just have a complete systematic problem all over. Your gun laws are easy and while that remains there won't be a end to things like mass shootings or all other related gun crime. Living in such a state of tension its no wonder police develop violent and trigger happy tendencies, and the worst of them it just brings out the crocked states of mind like seeing anyone they deem less then themselves as a threat and so abuse the power they have.
And because its the same systematic issue, it results in retaliation of the worst kind based on that same level of fear and tension always hanging over them.
This isn't just a case of saying 'if we fix racism it'll fix everything', because you have a lot more problems there then just that.
Add to that the fact that these violent tendencies are ignored or excused. So someone that's been roughing up people unnecessarily for years "accidentally" kills a defenseless person. Oopsie! My bad. Guess I'll go on paid leave for a couple months.
And the establishment just accepts that "these sorts of things happen" and we shouldn't rush to judgment because these people have hard and dangerous jobs. Oh really? Pizza delivery drivers are way more likely to get killed on the job but you don't see them crush someone's neck or shoot their dog or shoot at a cameraman or drive-by tear gas a nonviolent crowd.
When you put lethal weapons into the hands of people with zero accountability, you get serious problems. Throw racial tensions into the mix, you get a real shitstorm.
You sent your criminals here, until Australia became available, remember ;-)
honestly, you guys over there just have a complete systematic problem all over. Your gun laws are easy and while that remains there won't be a end to things like mass shootings or all other related gun crime. Living in such a state of tension its no wonder police develop violent and trigger happy tendencies, and the worst of them it just brings out the crocked states of mind like seeing anyone they deem less then themselves as a threat and so abuse the power they have.
And because its the same systematic issue, it results in retaliation of the worst kind based on that same level of fear and tension always hanging over them.
This isn't just a case of saying 'if we fix racism it'll fix everything', because you have a lot more problems there then just that.
Had a talk with my boyfriend about these recent events, and he gave his thoughts on it. He said how he feels that the original principle of black lives matters had merit to it, because black people in america are still looked down on and struggle, they do have problems and it needs attention given to the fact and things change for them.
However he said the problem with movements like BLM, same with the current wave of feminism and other similar political and social groups, is how they've become infested with toxic people, poisoning the well water, and making whatever the original concept of the movement meant to become corroded, and even become a entity that ruins the very concept of the original meaning.
This is why its hard to trust any modern movement now because of how much toxic people today ruin them for everyone, his own words.
There are a metric shit-ton more videos, but I'm having a hard time finding them on youtube. Wondering if their algorithms delete or hide videos involving police brutality...
I don't recall doing that myself, probably one of my grandparents did so.
Had a talk with my boyfriend about these recent events, and he gave his thoughts on it. He said how he feels that the original principle of black lives matters had merit to it, because black people in america are still looked down on and struggle, they do have problems and it needs attention given to the fact and things change for them.
However he said the problem with movements like BLM, same with the current wave of feminism and other similar political and social groups, is how they've become infested with toxic people, poisoning the well water, and making whatever the original concept of the movement meant to become corroded, and even become a entity that ruins the very concept of the original meaning.
This is why its hard to trust any modern movement now because of how much toxic people today ruin them for everyone, his own words.
It looked like mostly white protestors were involved in that second video. I guess people just enjoy a good riot.
During the 2013 events, protestors have flown drones to record everything against censorship. I wonder if they could try doing that with lots of drones? One or two are bound to make? It needs organisation and planning though.
I think Trevor Noah has hit the nail on the head. This is very much worth watching, but especially his comments about our societal contract from 8:17 to 12:04.
https://www.facebook.com/TrevorNoah/videos/271546193965209/ (https://www.facebook.com/TrevorNoah/videos/271546193965209/)
Only official news sites coming up in any research. I doubt if people from other countries actually realise the dimension of what has been going on if they don't especially dig and even then they only see people attacking the police. Or some woman taking a dump on a police car.
That moderately surprises me, given how much Trump has eroded the relationship between us and Europe, that you wouldn't see more of things that make him look bad.
yeah. People what things to change for the better there. These violent protests are not helping that however, its just making things worse.
So what are they suppose to do?
And that is exactly what instigators being shipped in from out-of-state want.
That moderately surprises me, given how much Trump has eroded the relationship between us and Europe, that you wouldn't see more of things that make him look bad.
Welcome back, Hijiri. You are missed ;-)
"Thousands protest in London over death of George Floyd" ... is Sadik Khan also a Chicom agent?
A British gay man who obviously hasn't fought or struggled for any rights he enjoys has declared 'modern movements' as cannot be 'trusted' because of dem feminists and similar groups. Modern movements. Modern. Movements. LOL Which if not for them, and the dem leftists, as a 'homosexual' he would be in prison being raped or outside being raped and then beaten to death.
Tell your boyfriend to make a list and save it for the fast growing Neo nazi groups, far right fanatics in the UK fueled by the Brexit. Because when Brexit takes its toll and they start attacking systematically to any 'undesirable' groups from Polish to Muslims, he'll find that he is HIGH on their list. Then he can tell them about dem femminisssts corrupting modern human right movements while being beaten to death with a baseball bat.
This world hasn't seen dumber, more clueless right wing generations than yours.
Only Black people hurting. Only Black people oppressed by societal generality (economy etc). Never see him comment on anything outside of 11% of the special pleading population. Trever Noah is S African, not American. Many here prefer Labour comedians from GB too. Obama was politically post-colonial Kenyan. Born in the US, but partly raised outside of it. And politically his father's son (aka not American). Don't mind foreign comments on US happenings of course. That gives perspective. How about the Chinese perspective? No support for that here? I like the Australian perspective, but there is just one conservative outlet there, it is much like UK.WHAT THE FUCK IS THE MATTER WITH YOU!? Are you fucking serious?
Jews also think they are special. They are not. Also we are not oppressed individually or systemically in the US. Except in a few NYC Black neighborhoods.
I don't get it. In america can say for sure theres a purpose to the violent protests because of the broken system there. But here, in the uk, there isn't that kind police brutality, the kind of level america has.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers_by_country
I don't know what the aim is with these ones in london, if its to call for the uk to tell america to clean up its act, or if the outrage has pushed some delusion that non-white people have it as bad here as in america.
My Sister in Suburban Chicago says there is looting going on at malls around her house. Yesterday there was a drive by shooting on her corner. The looting is mostly non violent. People are just doing smash and grabs because the police are busy with protests on the other side of town. I'm a little worried about their safety.
Why, do you think, George Floyd was killed?I'm not a coroner, but I'm pretty sure it was from a cop slamming their weight on his neck.
Why, do you think, George Floyd was killed?
peoples houses seem less targeted by rioters then establishments like shops and other public buildings. Of course your get opportunists in any situation like this. hopefully their safe and stocked up on food.They live in a relatively safe neighborhood, and this is unusual for them. It's just spooky to have this stuff going on so close by. They don't need to go to the store, and they have been good about staying home. The malls are closed, but scheduled to reopen tomorrow June 1st as part of the national grand opening and victory over the virus. (According to Trump's son in law, opening business is a victory over the virus). See, it's just that easy to end a pandemic.
They live in a relatively safe neighborhood, and this is unusual for them. It's just spooky to have this stuff going on so close by. They don't need to go to the store, and they have been good about staying home. The malls are closed, but scheduled to reopen tomorrow June 1st as part of the national grand opening and victory over the virus. (According to Trump's son in law, opening business is a victory over the virus). See, it's just that easy to end a pandemic.
I hope your family has the same common sense my brother and sister in laws using, they are ignoring the schools requests to send kids back from tomorrow and might not do so until September.They don't have kids, but they plan to keep up with guidelines for personal safety as Chicago begins to "reopen." If they had kids they would keep them home too. They take the pandemic seriously.
There's a difference between a protest, even a violent protest, and a riot. Protests have a particular focus. Riots are chaos.
I do support those who are angry over the George Floyd murder. That really is the only word for it. According to Findlaw's murder definitions, it is my opinion that this is either 2nd or 3rd degree murder. If person A swings a shovel at the head of person B without intent to kill, but knows that his action has the potential to kill, and person B dies, it is indeed some form of murder other than 1st degree murder.
When the protestors burned the police precinct station, I won't say I supported it (because I don't want anyone to quote me on that) but I can say that they were choosing a more legitimate target than say, the Target.
One of the problems with protests is all the opportunists who show up for the riot. The people wanting justice are probably not the same one stealing flat screen TVs. Protestors should be wary and say "we need to police our own protest and keep out the bad actors". It may seem ironic, but if you want to protest the police you need to police your protest. One example is Umbrella Man. The protestors are calling him an undercover cop. The cops are calling him a protestor.
The pallet of bricks delivered outside a Dallas courthouse was such an obvious trap that it makes me feel good that the protestors didn't fall for it. I am proud of those protestors.
The governor of Minnesota says there are a lot of outside agitators ranging from the drug cartels to even the Russians. Take your meds and you'll stop seeing Russians hiding in your closet. Outside agitators, sure. Not those sinister Russians who have been running everything since 2015. However, there are other more realistic accusations of outside agitators to consider.
Given that antifa is mostly upper-middle class young white people, how hard is it for white supremacists to infiltrate? Probably pretty easy, I wouldn't know. But the white people dressed in masks are being accused of being both antifa and fascists. They're also accused of being under cover police. Umbrella man is one such accusation. The protestors accuse him of being a cop. The police accuse him of being a protestor.
After letting the nation go to ruin the last two months by shutting down the economy, putting people out of work, and confining people to their homes, this one murder was simply throwing a lit match onto a pile of gasoline soaked rags covering a barrel of gunpowder with a stick of dynamite inside it.
You can't change a society by burning it down, you need to be able to push and pressure a government to listen to those changes.Like nonviolent protest?
WHAT THE FUCK IS THE MATTER WITH YOU!? Are you fucking serious?
Like nonviolent protest?
Why, do you think, George Floyd was killed?
It is because something provocative must have happened to spark the protests.
He is among others who was victimized for some goal worth superior than their life!.. Believe it or not, this is so.
It is not humane, I know.
I don't get it. In america can say for sure theres a purpose to the violent protests because of the broken system there. But here, in the uk, there isn't that kind police brutality, the kind of level america has.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers_by_country
I don't know what the aim is with these ones in london, if its to call for the uk to tell america to clean up its act, or if the outrage has pushed some delusion that non-white people have it as bad here as in america.
I'm not a coroner, but I'm pretty sure it was from a cop slamming their weight on his neck.
Like nonviolent protest?
Take your meds and you'll stop seeing Russians hiding in your closet. Outside agitators, sure. Not those sinister Russians who have been running everything since 2015.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d8/Tianasquare.jpg)
I think that might literally be the worst possible example of non-violence being effective you could have picked.
I agree with everything else you say, but... our intelligence community believes the Russians have been taking steps to cause social strife in the United States. Independent journalists believe this to be the case. We literally have evidence of the Russians doing it in multiple countries in Europe, and their dictator is ex-KGB... as well as many members of their ruling caste.
You really think they are going to look at literally the most perfect opportunity to cause more division and say, "Nah, we're good. I think we will sit this one out."?
I think that might literally be the worst possible example of non-violence being effective you could have picked.I'm not entirely sure, but I think his argument is that protests don't result in change. Or don't always result in change, which would be a more sensible position, considering the obvious example of gay rights. People put pressure of lawmakers for literally decades, but eventually, some progress was made.
I'm not entirely sure, but I think his argument is that protests don't result in change. Or don't always result in change, which would be a more sensible position, considering the obvious example of gay rights. People put pressure of lawmakers for literally decades, but eventually, some progress was made.
And while I lean towards pessimism when it comes to taking to the streets, imo the main reason cops are (sometimes) held (somewhat) accountable at all is because of 1) video evidence 2) public outcry.
Imho most of these protests would die off instantly if there were just two reforms 1) mandatory body cams 2) serious prosecution of police brutality wherever it happens
So if peaceful protests don't work, and riots don't work, exactly what should people be doing? Sitting at home, doing nothing?
I agree with everything else you say, but... our intelligence community believes the Russians have been taking steps to cause social strife in the United States. Independent journalists believe this to be the case. We literally have evidence of the Russians doing it in multiple countries in Europe, and their dictator is ex-KGB... as well as many members of their ruling caste.
You really think they are going to look at literally the most perfect opportunity to cause more division and say, "Nah, we're good. I think we will sit this one out."?
There is this video going around, 3 white cops cuffing a black man who is supposedly an FBI agent. Is this new, has any of you seen it? Alot of people keeps saying he is not FBI. But they uncuff him immediately after checking his ID and he keeps calling them 'fucking stupid'. Another black man would be on the floor.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1267339546921848837
https://twitter.com/i/status/1267333317927395329
There is an unbelievable censorship. It's practically blocked. Comic books sneek peak comes up when you search "June 1 2020 DC shootings".
Whatever happens now, I know after all this ends, the journalists who will dig and write about the gov made bloody sewage won't be imprisoned. This is one thing I trust with America rather than the States.
If this happens -I pretty much doubt it- it will officially be the start of a fundamentally new era. Just reminding a crucial line, I personally don't think there is anything to worry about.
Guys please don't panic. Don't go out, don't engage with anyone. I don't know what to say. If the capital is really in this situation...things could really get out of control.
Baruch! Your country's capital is on fire and cannot be reached who know how many people are injured or dying. SHUT THE FUCK UP!
The newest information is that its Russian bots saying that things are terrible in DC, and that everyone is actually okay and in bed sleeping.
For some reason I am having a hard time buying that.
Whatever happens now, I know after all this ends, the journalists who will dig and write about the gov made bloody sewage won't be imprisoned. This is one thing I trust with America rather than the States.“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”
If this happens -I pretty much doubt it- it will officially be the start of a fundamentally new era. Just reminding a crucial line, I personally don't think there is anything to worry about.
I still doubt that this is any sort of final episode for the US.
NO. Nothing is ending. Yes, horrifying things are happening right now. It could get worse and even worse. But it is not gonna stay that way. And if it doesn't get worse, it can't get better. You are going to get through this. You have gone through far worse times.
People need to stay calm, organise and need to help each other. Don't give way to fear and panic.
But I don't agree that this is an experiment. It's a real struggle.We are talking past each other as we often have in the past. The struggle is real, not an experiment. The experiment is democracy, and this is not my idea. In our own texts, democracy is often referred to as an experiment, because well, that's what it was, and we are still waiting for the results.
We are talking past each other as we often have in the past. The struggle is real, not an experiment. The experiment is democracy, and this is not my idea. In our own texts, democracy is often referred to as an experiment, because well, that's what it was, and we are still waiting for the results.
Why are you all so fucking alienated about this? Why don't you own up to it? This is a real struggle. And it's yours. This is going to determine all your lives from now on.
One is acting like a child, others sound like talking about something happening in another continent ffs. It is like I do believe in you more than you believe in anything.
Yes, it is horrifying, we are in a worse phase, I live in constant fear too. And?
When it is necessary, you should go out too. This is it! Your life has potentially changed forever. Black or white or blue or pruple.
Maybe, it is time to embrace this and become a nation,eh?
The past is a present battle field now. It doesn't have to be your idea. You are talking like an academic addressing a class of students. This is your fucking country. This is your people. Unfortunately, this the historical practice that has never changed. It hasn't changed since the dawn of human.
Please get this. This is yours, you need to embrace this. And you need to own up to it even if you are not there! Doesn't matter, if you go out or not. This is your fight! This is your battle! This is NOT an American struggle, this is THE AMERICAN STRUGGLE.
It's going to be OK. It will be OK. You will get out of this.
Baruch, please get the fuck out of my face.
There is an unbelievable censorship. It's practically blocked. Comic books sneek peak comes up when you search "June 1 2020 DC shootings".Use a VPN and set it to a EU country or anywhere other than the U.S. These results I get back when I search that:
Why would I use VPN? Why anyone here use VPN? That just means it's illegal.
Exactly how stupid you are?
Munch, this is by far the greatest issue of the States. And people are worried, scared for their country. There is no leadership, there is a incompetent fucktard. We are in the middle of a global outbreak.
You are the only person who is talking about 'feminism' or gender movements to blame a long coming battle and people who are absolutey right about their rage and trying to fight against naked agression targeted to them. And when told that you have zero self awareness, you are telling me, a middle eastern woman who is -has to be- concerned for human rights far before anything else in the place she lives that you know this is the only perspective she sees things from and that you cannot be called a 'right winger' because you don't vote.
It's so obvious you have never been to a protest. Like many others here. Well, I have. In different periods with different issues and different governments. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A PEACEFUL PROTEST. If you are having peaceful protests then you are a spoilt piece of shit with no real issues, problems who is having a picnic to post a selfie to your social media account. Or you are a member of a specific group.
If you had a tiny bit of historical perspective you would understand this. You have no idea what is a movement, what is a cause or understand the difference betwen real life issues in a society and internet videos/sites produced to make money or political propaganda.
I was looking at the funny pictures/videos threads the other day. With pr's absence it's become more conspicous that you seem to be the only person who is posting the same kind of gender memes, videos made by brain damaged teenagers about women, movies and so on.
I have never seen a gay man who is supposedly content with his life lashing out to anything related to women this much with no provocation at all. Then as I said before, I doubt if you have an opinion of your own.
Just to make it clear. Countless videos and countless memes, sites produced in the last 15 years don't mean shit. Yeah they are that old. Not even that old actually. People who think they are criticising or somehow negating, manipulating, doing something against these modern movements by that culture -be it feminism or BLM Or whatever- are the dumbest people alive. And the rest is making money from it. Reality is very different than gaming memes about women who wants to be men. Infact, it is another universe.
So these movements, they're not going anywhere. Given that you don't threaten their existence, they're not going to harm you even in the worst scenario. BUT the set of ideas or ideologies; the side you support will look for, find and harm people like you. This is not a joke. This is the right wing understanding. The fact that you can't get this or think that nothing's going to happen where you live in this level doesn't change this outcome. It's not flexible. Vote or don't vote, right wing state of mind is exactly like religion. That's its nature and what it gets its power from.
Please, don't babble about the same things over and over again or try to inform me about my perspective in life. You have zero awareness of the current trends, simplest dynamics in your own country.
wanted to go into a long reply, but I've realized looking at your other posts it won't be worth doing so. My original statements were that any group, ones you hate, ones you follow, become corrupted by toxic people and they end up destroying the original message and turning any movement into something shit.
I can tell your afraid however, and thats just making you lash out. So it won't benefit me anything to go into this with you. End of the day I don't want to see anyone hurt because of the mess happening over where you all are, I'd sooner this all die down quick like any other regular joe would want.
Whatever differences of opinion and ideals we might have I'd sooner everyone just get through this and safe out the other side. Just stay away from the riots as much as you can and protest safely online.
Greensboro is now under curfew from 8:00 pm to 6:00 am until further notice.Me too. Not that I was planning on going anywhere anyway. Curfew buddies!
Good news ... in a sad way ...
"George Floyd's family releases independent autopsy showing death caused by asphyxia from sustained pressure" ... paid for by Lloyd family. It differs from the "official" one. I tend to trust this one more than the "protect all cops" one. So definitely manslaughter, depending on how deliberate it was. They cop had like 17 prior charges of police excessive force.
So premature judgement on cause of death is cleared. Premature judgement on motivation/liability will remain with the court. Hypothetical .. what if Mr Lloyd was going to turn this cop in for drug dealing? That would give the cop motivation for at least second degree murder.
https://www.thebeaverton.com/2020/06/its-not-fair-to-judge-all-police-officers-based-on-the-few-bad-apples-we-violently-defend-at-all-costs/ (note: satire similar to The Onion)
Just one bad apple. And four more bad apples who looked on. And a few dozen more bad apples who took unprovoked shots at reporters and medics and passerby. And the bad apples who go unreported and unremarked every year.
But statistically, the apple basket is fine. Reach in, see what you get. Whatever it is, I'm sure it was deserved.
rioters in dallas beat the shit out of a store owner outside his shop.
Don't know about the rest of them, but that one was proven wrong. That guy brought a giant ass knife, started screaming at protesters and chasing them, then got the shit beat out of him. He wasn't a store owner or anything, just a mental idiot.
theres conflicting reports on if he was a store owner or not, but not seen anything saying its wrong.
theres conflicting reports on if he was a store owner or not, but not seen anything saying its wrong.if there are conflicting reports and one of those reports is the daily mail (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2159692/Womans-mouth-falls-pregnant-squid-biting-sea-creature-scientists-claim.html), then it's generally safe to go with the other report
if there are conflicting reports and one of those reports is the daily mail (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2159692/Womans-mouth-falls-pregnant-squid-biting-sea-creature-scientists-claim.html), then it's generally safe to go with the other report
I can say the exact same about anything reported by BuzzFeed.https://www.businessinsider.com/louisville-restaurant-owner-david-mcatee-death-body-left-hours-report-2020-6
Looks like we are heading towards martial law.
https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/local/2020/06/01/watch-live-president-trump-makes-statement-amid-nationwide-policy-brutality-protests/
Riots finally hit my hometown, even though it's in the arse end of nowhere. Whole thing's taken on a life of its own now.
Don't know about the rest of them, but that one was proven wrong. That guy brought a giant ass knife, started screaming at protesters and chasing them, then got the shit beat out of him. He wasn't a store owner or anything, just a mental idiot.
wanted to go into a long reply, but I've realized looking at your other posts it won't be worth doing so.
How about the man with the bow? I wonder if he is alive. There was nothing on him yesterday. I couldn't find anything yesterday. It was so depressing.
I cleaned the posts.
Did that look like an invitation for conversation to you? I told you please not to repeat yourself.
1. A VPN protects your data. Keeps hackers from getting your information and stealing your identity.
2. It allows you to trick the internet into thinking you're someplace else, allowing you to see things you can't normally see. Usually, people do this to watch The Office on Netflix, but now, apparently it allows us to see what is being supressed from American media.
I don't get it. Netflix doesn't even work if VPN is on. What is more, what is not available to you is not available to anyone else. I don't think this particular censorship works this way.
Otherwise, anyone in power would love to show America bad and especially him. I have never seen anything like it. There is nothing specific about the events but just the mainstream stuff. But then I don't have personal social media.
Different protocols are allowed in a channel. If Netflix isn't allowed in a VPN, that is because it has the wrong signature. I don't know that for sure, that VPN blocks Netflix, but it might vary by nation etc.
You weren't alive in the 1960s. It can get much worse. Regular riots every Summer by the usual suspects. Demonstrations every Fall and Spring by the other suspects. I kind of wish nuclear war had gone ahead in 1962.
The propaganda is thick, but not very impressive. Hitler and Stalin laugh.
I thought it is because the existence of VPN means something illegal might begoing on. It is illegal here.
They killed a young kurdish man yesterday and I don't believe anything about it.
Okay, pr.
Anonymity? Facebook has 2 billion 600 million, Instagram over one billion members. And 3.5 billion people still don't have access to internet on the planet. People keep saying they want privacy and anonymity but they keep flaunting all their lives online. I think they just want to be seen in a certain way that is the problem.
Also why would anyone -government or anyone- want to spend energy and time to hack ordinary people like us? You really don't need to hack into people's computers to learn about them or what they're up to in my opinion.
Other than that they have collected information for years.
100+ instances of police assaulting the media and destroying their equipment
(https://twitter.com/N_Waters89/status/1266670730441379844)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=knNLy-hiaNY
I thought it is because the existence of VPN means something illegal might be going on. It is illegal here.
They killed a young kurdish man yesterday and I don't believe anything about it.
White nationalists posing as Antifa and a large percentage of the violent rioters being shipped into cities are right wing, but you know... "ThE lEfTiStS dId ThIs!"
(https://pics.me.me/thumb_this-meme-is-called-brainlet-wojak-171403111-added-by-49262141.png)
https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/twitter-takes-down-washington-protest-disinformation-bot-behavior-n1221456
There's a special kind of irony in using a meme to accuse others of groupthink.
VPNs aren't illegal. Not here, anyway. Their main purpose is to encrypt your data to make it harder to steal. They also advertise your ability to set your location anywhere in the world. Websites can't tell the difference between someone actually living in a region or a VPN making it look like they are from there.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/01/bob-kroll-george-floyd-minneapolis-police-union-chief
oh dear dear. Seems like certain details now coming out about george floyd other news outlets and online boards don't want the world to hear.
Turns out, as told by Lt Bob Kroll, president of the Police Officers Federation of Minneapolis, Floyd has a criminal past, including when he broke into a womans house and held her at gunpoint at her pregnant belly. Also something not often discussed was why the police was called on him in the first place, was that he was using a fake $20 note, leading to the officer being called.
Now obviously this doesn't absolve the police that killed him, they didn't know his criminal past when it occured, although infomation is out also that Derek Chauvin had a past with Floyd in security, have to find more on that, so maybe they had a history themselves.
Again Floyds past deeds doesn't absolve Chauvin for killing him, but it does show things aren't as black and white as being made out, and if this turns out to be true, whats said about him by Bob Kroll, if I were the woman whos life Floyd threatened, I'd probably be thinking less then regretful thoughts at what happened.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/01/bob-kroll-george-floyd-minneapolis-police-union-chief
oh dear dear. Seems like certain details now coming out about george floyd other news outlets and online boards don't want the world to hear.
Turns out, as told by Lt Bob Kroll, president of the Police Officers Federation of Minneapolis, Floyd has a criminal past, including when he broke into a womans house and held her at gunpoint at her pregnant belly. Also something not often discussed was why the police was called on him in the first place, was that he was using a fake $20 note, leading to the officer being called.
Now obviously this doesn't absolve the police that killed him, they didn't know his criminal past when it occured, although infomation is out also that Derek Chauvin had a past with Floyd in security, have to find more on that, so maybe they had a history themselves.
Again Floyds past deeds doesn't absolve Chauvin for killing him, but it does show things aren't as black and white as being made out, and if this turns out to be true, whats said about him by Bob Kroll, if I were the woman whos life Floyd threatened, I'd probably be thinking less then regretful thoughts at what happened.
https://twitter.com/RichmondPolice/status/1267120558409494532
Richmond police department, how rioters set fire to a building, and stopped police and fire fighters from getting to the building while a child was trapped inside.
They had him handcuffed, face on the ground, with the officer's knee on his neck for several minutes, until he died. I don't give a fuck about his past.
guys right, there is no easy, black and white way of looking at this. Theres a few on our dear forum here that feel there is, but this is a more complex issue then just the one way of seeing it.
guys right, there is no easy, black and white way of looking at this. Theres a few on our dear forum here that feel there is, but this is a more complex issue then just the one way of seeing it.
The white supremacists are in the police force, no doubt about it. I would like to know if they are using the chaos as a cover to go full nazi chimpout, or if they're following some nefarious orders from white supremacists secret club *coughkkkcough*.Sorry but you are not allowed to view spoiler contents.
heres some positive in all this mess.
https://twitter.com/angeldigit/status/1267751644198047746 (https://twitter.com/angeldigit/status/1267751644198047746)
homeless man in Austin, everything he owned was destroyed by the rioters. But the local community stepped in and gave him a new tent, bed, money and everything to survive.
Have to wonder, if this occurred 6-8 years ago with Obama in office, and if there was a pandemic the same as today back then, would the reaction have been the same? Would tensions have been the same during that period that lead to this?I doubt it, because Obama was a leader and didn't make everything about himself and his might.
Have to wonder, if this occurred 6-8 years ago with Obama in office, and if there was a pandemic the same as today back then, would the reaction have been the same? Would tensions have been the same during that period that lead to this?
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/01/bob-kroll-george-floyd-minneapolis-police-union-chiefYou remind me of a rapist who goes on to blame the victim--she was a convicted shoplifter, or she wore tight jeans and a halter top--what was I supposed to do?, or she has been in juvenile hall several times, or she has been to jail numerous times--and on and on. Are you suggesting that if a person has a 'criminal record' then they forfeit all rights? That everything they do is criminal based and therefore they are fair game to whatever a cop wants to do to them? Even if this guy had knowingly passed off a counterfeit bill, does that give the cops the right to treat him as they see fit? He was handcuffed and on his face. What the fuck could he do to that cop??? And the cop kept the pressure on his neck for several long minutes. Why not get up off the guy, lift him up and put him into a patrol car? I really don't understand you attitude.
oh dear dear. Seems like certain details now coming out about george floyd other news outlets and online boards don't want the world to hear.
Turns out, as told by Lt Bob Kroll, president of the Police Officers Federation of Minneapolis, Floyd has a criminal past, including when he broke into a womans house and held her at gunpoint at her pregnant belly. Also something not often discussed was why the police was called on him in the first place, was that he was using a fake $20 note, leading to the officer being called.
Now obviously this doesn't absolve the police that killed him, they didn't know his criminal past when it occured, although infomation is out also that Derek Chauvin had a past with Floyd in security, have to find more on that, so maybe they had a history themselves.
Again Floyds past deeds doesn't absolve Chauvin for killing him, but it does show things aren't as black and white as being made out, and if this turns out to be true, whats said about him by Bob Kroll, if I were the woman whos life Floyd threatened, I'd probably be thinking less then regretful thoughts at what happened.
Have to wonder, if this occurred 6-8 years ago with Obama in office, and if there was a pandemic the same as today back then, would the reaction have been the same? Would tensions have been the same during that period that lead to this?Obama (nor Bush--yes war criminal Bush, nor Clinton, nor Daddy Bush, nor any other president in our history) would not have let the pandemic get to this stage. He would have handled this situation as he did Ferguson. He was a leader. No matter what excuses you want to give to the orange monster he is not a leader. He does not like people. He loves money and power and that's it. Why you refuse to see this is beyond my ability to understand.
You remind me of a rapist who goes on to blame the victim--she was a convicted shoplifter, or she wore tight jeans and a halter top--what was I supposed to do?, or she has been in juvenile hall several times, or she has been to jail numerous times--and on and on. Are you suggesting that if a person has a 'criminal record' then they forfeit all rights? That everything they do is criminal based and therefore they are fair game to whatever a cop wants to do to them? Even if this guy had knowingly passed off a counterfeit bill, does that give the cops the right to treat him as they see fit? He was handcuffed and on his face. What the fuck could he do to that cop??? And the cop kept the pressure on his neck for several long minutes. Why not get up off the guy, lift him up and put him into a patrol car? I really don't understand you attitude.
I doubt it, because Obama was a leader and didn't make everything about himself and his might.
Obama (nor Bush--yes war criminal Bush, nor Clinton, nor Daddy Bush, nor any other president in our history) would not have let the pandemic get to this stage. He would have handled this situation as he did Ferguson. He was a leader. No matter what excuses you want to give to the orange monster he is not a leader. He does not like people. He loves money and power and that's it. Why you refuse to see this is beyond my ability to understand.
I understand tensions are high over there so people are riled up, but calling someone 'like a rapist' to find a comparison to something like this is pretty fucking shallow, given what rape victims go through.What I'm saying, Munch, is that you seem to have a huge right-wing streak running through you. And every now and again, you spew it out. You have put down time and again, the extreme leftists. I have not seen you go through that same take on the growing number of alt-right groups. You are a nice guy, Munch, but every now and again you rile me up.
Saying that, your also jumping the shark because you making assumptions based on what I said and your own outlook. I said the the same post to quoted, whatever floyd's past was it didn't excuse an officer killing him, even if the officer had known any of it which he wouldn't have. I was simply saying that if these things are true about his past, then it seems bizarre painting him as an innocent victim and the face of this current protest when he might have threatened a pregnant woman with a gun. My point was this whole thing isn't a black and white as your making it out to be.
even when obama was in office, there was still white/black tension in america, lets not pretend it went away just because he was in office for two terms.
you must imagine that because I'm not screaming on twitter about how evil donald trump is that must mean I like him. I've said it several times, I don't hate or like him, I view him as a catalyst, what someone like him being in power causes other people to act like, and so far for the last few years, all thats done is given me more reason to be skeptical about people in general. These protests and violent riots have shown the kind of people around today how they are and what something like trump makes them act like.
I'm just waiting for when the new virus spread sparks up because of these protests and riots, because it went from a case of staying indoors to save lives from the disease and support doctors and nurses from making things harder on them, to now just ignoring all that.Yeah, well murder has a way of freaking people out. Plus, it seems kinda messed up for nurses and doctors to save lives only for cops to snuff them out.
What I'm saying, Munch, is that you seem to have a huge right-wing streak running through you. And every now and again, you spew it out. You have put down time and again, the extreme leftists. I have not seen you go through that same take on the growing number of alt-right groups. You are a nice guy, Munch, but every now and again you rile me up.
Yeah, well murder has a way of freaking people out. Plus, it seems kinda messed up for nurses and doctors to save lives only for cops to snuff them out.
But yeah, I'm bracing for a fresh wave (is this our second or third? Or did the first one never really stop?). There has been some effort for people to maintain social distancing, though of course that goes all out the window when the shit hits the fan.
Have to wonder, if this occurred 6-8 years ago with Obama in office, and if there was a pandemic the same as today back then, would the reaction have been the same? Would tensions have been the same during that period that lead to this?
even when obama was in office, there was still white/black tension in america, lets not pretend it went away just because he was in office for two terms.
Trump's trying to declare war on American citizens. Why am I not surprised?
The white supremacists are in the police force, no doubt about it. I would like to know if they are using the chaos as a cover to go full nazi chimpout, or if they're following some nefarious orders from white supremacists secret club *coughkkkcough*.
Name one.
heres some positive in all this mess.
https://twitter.com/angeldigit/status/1267751644198047746
homeless man in Austin, everything he owned was destroyed by the rioters. But the local community stepped in and gave him a new tent, bed, money and everything to survive.
https://i.imgur.com/ekMHN1C.mp4
1) Cop tackles black man (don't know if it was provoked or unprovoked)
2) Cop plants baton on black man
3) Cop starts smashing this guy's hand to "disarm" him, very likely to claim later that the subdued black man was attacking him and everything the cop was doing was in self-defense
If this wasn't on camera, who would you believe?
Trump wants to Make America Grovel Again.
No. Americans are much more polarized now than four years ago. Also Trump isn't trying to de-escalate the situation, he's trying to intimidate people like an angry boss. He's completely out of his depth. The failure of government on the federal and state level to effectively address the pandemic has revealed multiple systemic breakdowns. In the past, Americans pulled together in times of crisis but not during this pandemic. Americans aren't worried about Russia, China or immigrants from Mexico, they have identified groups of other Americans as the enemy.
Obama (nor Bush--yes war criminal Bush, nor Clinton, nor Daddy Bush, nor any other president in our history) would not have let the pandemic get to this stage. He would have handled this situation as he did Ferguson. He was a leader. No matter what excuses you want to give to the orange monster he is not a leader. He does not like people. He loves money and power and that's it. Why you refuse to see this is beyond my ability to understand.
I'm just waiting for when the new virus spread sparks up because of these protests and riots, because it went from a case of staying indoors to save lives from the disease and support doctors and nurses from making things harder on them, to now just ignoring all that.
Yeah, well murder has a way of freaking people out. Plus, it seems kinda messed up for nurses and doctors to save lives only for cops to snuff them out.
But yeah, I'm bracing for a fresh wave (is this our second or third? Or did the first one never really stop?). There has been some effort for people to maintain social distancing, though of course that goes all out the window when the shit hits the fan.
You say the strangest things. If this happened during Obama's term, he would not have spread misinformation, or claimed that the virus was a hoax, or an excuse for Republicans to try to make him look bad. When riots broke out, he would do what he could to calm things down, rather than make things worse. Obama wouldn't have been able to fix everything with a magic wand, but if we had virtually anyone other than the current idiot in charge, things would be much better. We literally have the worst possible person to lead us through the year 2020.
Duh. Whoever said that there wasn't? The point is, every time Trump takes to Twitter, he riles people up. Obama never threatened to treat American citizens like they are terrorists to be gunned down. Trump didn't make people racist (again, duh, but I can just hear that strawman coming from your keyboard), but he did embolden racists by giving them legitimacy. Every year he spends in office is a decade of progress lost.
I doubt it, because Obama was a leader and didn't make everything about himself and his might.
Recent statements by George W. Bush:
"Laura and I are anguished by the brutal suffocation of George Floyd and disturbed by the injustice and fear that suffocate our country. Yet we have resisted the urge to speak out, because this is not the time for us to lecture. It is time for us to listen.
"It is time for America to examine our tragic failures ― and as we do, we will also see some of our redeeming strengths."
God, what I would give to have Bush as president again. Anyone but Trump. I'd even take this guy:Sorry but you are not allowed to view spoiler contents.
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Oh, Jesus. They're all from Baruch, aren't they?
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Yup.
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Oh, Jesus. They're all from Baruch, aren't they?
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Yup.
It's getting wose.
Also, I want to see more damage.
How can he de-escalate something being run from Beijing, Biden's basement, Hillary's lair and Soros mansion?
You can't think of ways a president could have addressed this situation that would have resulted in less antagonism and violence? There are actually professionals who specialize in verbal de-escalation, many of whom work for the government. Perhaps Trump should consult with them.
Jesus, Baruch. Take a chill pill. The occasional double post is understandable, but when 95% of the thread is you replying to people, it's a bit much.
Police Chief Art Acevedo seems like a good, rational guy. I've seen him on TV multiple times, and he always struck me as a man of integrity and honesty.
...Also apparently not a big fan of how Trump has been handling things.
https://www.cnn.com/videos/tv/2020/06/01/amanpour-houston-art-acevedo-george-floyd.cnn
Good. Have DNC make him your candidate, not that pedophile ...
What happened in Louisville?
Shortly after midnight on March 13, Louisville police, executing a search warrant, used a battering ram to crash into the apartment of Breonna Taylor, a 26-year-old African-American emergency room technician. After a brief confrontation, they fired several shots, striking her at least eight times.
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Almost as if people supporting the protests might think 'sometimes sacrifices need to be made for the greater good'
Believe me, I was less than enthused when I realized Biden was going to be the man running against Trump. He was far from my first choice. But when it comes to him or Trump, I'm voting Biden. Yeah, I know, there are third party choices too. But let's be real. They all suck.
https://www.nytimes.com/article/breonna-taylor-police.html
This has nothing to do with innocence. Look at this. This is the killing of one black woman, after there was 'no-knock' warrant given to search her apartment. It's a drug case. This is happening on suspicion of two men using her apartment to sell drugs. Does this look like a normal police conduct to you?
Everything happened in human history so far points to yes. That's why you, as an individual, have a normal; standard life. That's why there is something called the modern state; the law; standards; modern society. Forget the damage property. Do you have any idea how many people have died horrible deaths so people can live with basic standards, have basic freedoms in Western Civilisation? Of course you don't. Because you don't understand the price of 'civilisation', how delicate it actually is, that it is not something concrete but needs constantly to be fought and managed for, how hard it was earned; specifically the Western civilisation which Westerners has been so joyfully shitting on in the last 15 years or so. Talk about clueless. Talk about dumb. That's why 'civilisation' is defined as an illusion or monster at countless times. It's the hardest thing to build, it is very easily destroyed in no time and it eats human life to grow.
I sincerely have no idea, how somebody can feel this selfish and self-entitled to a degree to see damage property only in this picture and bitch about it constantly without a tiny bit of awareness. But then you always sound to me like you are trying to please someone with what you advocate for. Not giving an opinion.
There was a news piece about a police chef telling Trump to keep his his mouth shut if he can't be constructive. He is not this one joining the protests, is he?
I can't tell if your being sarcastic or your serious.
He is that guy. And I'm glad Houston has a police chief who knows it is the policeman's job to serve the people, not to rule over them. From what I've seen, his kind is rare.
People > property. There are people out there who claim that the rioting discredits the entire movement. Funny how the murder of black people doesn't discredit the entire police force, but the looters get to represent the whole of the BLM movement. These people whine incessantly about the riots, but they don't give AF about the countless innocent protesters, press, medical personnel, and innocent bystanders who are being harmed by the police.
Yeah. I like him. He gives hope.
I cannot name them, but I have seen articles and stories about police all across the nation taking a knee with the protesters--or hugging the protesters, and I've heard of several police chiefs doing the same. I saw one police chief linked arm and arm with protesters standing in front of his own officers. There is hope. But we have to have leadership to make it make any difference in the long run.
BTW, everybody, check out what George Will has to say about Trump! He is an older conservative who backed up Bush, for example--most vocal about his conservationism and an avid writer. He says that not only does trump need to go, but any and all Repubs who supported him! I really was shocked to see that.
If your still supporting what's happening, then your ignoring the people having they're lives destroyed by this.
So you believe all cops are murderers?
So you believe all cops are murderers?
Chicago police caught and arrested a looter in a strip mall on south Pulaski Road who was carrying stolen beauty supply items. He was 41 years old and was from Lafayette, Indiana. Police found a pistol with an extended magazine tucked in his pants belt. So he was charged with aggravated unlawful use of a weapon. When questioned as to why he had the gun, the looter responded with "you think I'm going to come to Chicago and do all this shit and not have my gun on me?"
Who is pretending there was no racial tension when Obama was in office?
even when obama was in office, there was still white/black tension in america, lets not pretend it went away just because he was in office for two terms.
Who is pretending there was no racial tension when Obama was in office?
One thing I don't understand. How do these poeple think they could get away with social media posts like this?
Who is pretending there was no racial tension when Obama was in office?
He is living in a world where one hand wearing white glove, the other black. The black gloved hand has no voice and it just keeps attacking the white gloved one which keeps saying 'oh, no! Stop it, oh no!'.
Because most of the time they do. For every Floyd, there are probably 10, 20, 30 unnamed African Americans (and other groups too, including whites, just not as disproportionately) who are murdered and the police walk off scott free... sometimes even with video evidence that isn't "quite" conclusive enough to 100% declare them murderers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z56j06plUgs
Because most of the time they do. For every Floyd, there are probably 10, 20, 30 unnamed African Americans (and other groups too, including whites, just not as disproportionately) who are murdered and the police walk off scott free... sometimes even with video evidence that isn't "quite" conclusive enough to 100% declare them murderers.
"Is that your Bible?"
"It's a Bible."
Trump can't even pretend to care about this unopened Bible he poses with.
OK. Those are cops. So basically they rely on the systematic, institutional racism. What about civillians? Is it just me, don't you think there must be something about this that we don't see. Is it that simple? They just think it is not going to happen to them?
... that fact these mass protests and riots ignore all this, forget all the hard work medical health services have done and the sacrifices they made to try and get everything back to normal.
But who cares about that, gotta start a riot, who gives a fuck if people are dying from this thing, let's come out and protest, even in countries where the reason for the protests didn't happen.
They don't ignore all that, that's just how fucking bad it is here. People are aware of these things, and they STILL go out in protest because even during the middle of a pandemic African Americans are murdered like stray dogs in the street by the people that are suppose to protect them.
Jesus christ dude.
They don't ignore all that, that's just how fucking bad it is here. People are aware of these things, and they STILL go out in protest because even during the middle of a pandemic African Americans are murdered like stray dogs in the street by the people that are suppose to protect them.
Jesus christ dude.
"That's how bad it is here" good, the excuses start fresh.
And how many more african Americans will die to this disease because protestors thought this was more important then containing a virus?
What's even more hilarious then this hypocrisy, the countries having these protests other then america, which have very very few deaths of black people compared to america by police, these protests in those countries will kill more black people with spreading this disease then any cop in them ever did.
Holy fucking Cthulhu dude.
"That's how bad it is here" good, the excuses start fresh.
When considering that there is a virus still floating around out there, one that can kill people be they vulnerable be they elderly, and the thousands of people who have already died of this disease, on top of all that, the lockdown that has separated families and continue to keep families separated, even when people who have the disease are dying in hospitals and their families can't go to visit them, that fact these mass protests and riots ignore all this, forget all the hard work medical health services have done and the sacrifices they made to try and get everything back to normal.
But who cares about that, gotta start a riot, who gives a fuck if people are dying from this thing, let's come out and protest, even in countries where the reason for the protests didn't happen.
Would be such a shame if they all died to Corona.
Munch, tone down your bullshit. People are under serious stress and fear for their future. Nobody has to put up with your masturbation.Especially because he doesn't even fucking live here.
"That's how bad it is here" good, the excuses start fresh.I think I will rename you Shallow Hal. You just don't get it, do you. Blacks are ALREADY succumbing to the virus at 2 to 3 times the rate as whites. No matter how bad the virus will get, it will pass. From the inception of this country, racism has not passed and it appears it will not pass without a fight. White christianity has put a white, patriarchal, authoritarian stamp on this society. It will take huge efforts to reverse those trends. I am NOT for destruction of private property. Destroying a Target or Walmart will not accomplish anything. But by showing up in numbers and defying trump cerfews or calls for military action, will. Confronting the police, where they need to be confronted will gain attention, as well. Something has to be done.
And how many more african Americans will die to this disease because protestors thought this was more important then containing a virus?
What's even more hilarious then this hypocrisy, the countries having these protests other then america, which have very very few deaths of black people compared to america by police, these protests in those countries will kill more black people with spreading this disease then any cop in them ever did.
Holy fucking Cthulhu dude.
even in countries where the reason for the protests didn't happen.
When considering that there is a virus still floating around out there, one that can kill people be they vulnerable be they elderly, and the thousands of people who have already died of this disease, on top of all that, the lockdown that has separated families and continue to keep families separated, even when people who have the disease are dying in hospitals and their families can't go to visit them, that fact these mass protests and riots ignore all this, forget all the hard work medical health services have done and the sacrifices they made to try and get everything back to normal.Quick question (mostly to gauge your level of awareness): why do you think the people at the protests are wearing masks?
But who cares about that, gotta start a riot, who gives a fuck if people are dying from this thing, let's come out and protest, even in countries where the reason for the protests didn't happen.
Would be such a shame if they all died to Corona.
You are a piece of shit.
The fact that you think state sanctioned execution of African Americans is some "excuse" for your imaginary left-boogieman...
You have not ONCE indicated even the remotest of understanding of American culture, and yet you always want to bust in here and tell us that you know more about America than actual Americans do. It's annoying as fuck on a good day, but when it comes to a topic like this it's down right pathetic and shows an absolute lack of any moral character.
Edit: And before you say it, yes I did use to make comments about European affairs, but you will notice it's been a few years since I have because I realised it's annoying as fuck, and when I do I do my best to do as much research on it as possible.
Just know those conservatives you are always sucking up to will one day turn on you, and it won't be pretty. I just hope Scotland has better safeguards in place to avoid radicals taking over than we do.
I think I will rename you Shallow Hal. You just don't get it, do you. Blacks are ALREADY succumbing to the virus at 2 to 3 times the rate as whites. No matter how bad the virus will get, it will pass. From the inception of this country, racism has not passed and it appears it will not pass without a fight. White christianity has put a white, patriarchal, authoritarian stamp on this society. It will take huge efforts to reverse those trends. I am NOT for destruction of private property. Destroying a Target or Walmart will not accomplish anything. But by showing up in numbers and defying trump cerfews or calls for military action, will. Confronting the police, where they need to be confronted will gain attention, as well. Something has to be done.
I will tell a little tale on myself. In the late 60's my parents were stationed (Dad was a civilian attached to the Army) in Germany. One summer I got to visit them (I was in college) and went on a Paris trip sponsored an Army organization. It was a 3 day trip and I shared a room with a GI. We went to Place Pigalle to see the Folies Bergère. Anyway, we were on the streets after 1 am, and it was filled with prostitutes. Well, until some Black men (from Algeria, I think) were across the street simply walking along. It was funny--it was like they were a wave--as they proceeded down the street, the prostitutes evaporated for about a half a block--and popped back out after they had passed. Not even the prostitutes wanted anything to do with the blacks. I was young, and I was shocked. I learned then, that Europe was racist.
You are a piece of shit.
The fact that you think state sanctioned execution of African Americans is some "excuse" for your imaginary left-boogieman...
You have not ONCE indicated even the remotest of understanding of American culture, and yet you always want to bust in here and tell us that you know more about America than actual Americans do. It's annoying as fuck on a good day, but when it comes to a topic like this it's down right pathetic and shows an absolute lack of any moral character.
Edit: And before you say it, yes I did use to make comments about European affairs, but you will notice it's been a few years since I have because I realised it's annoying as fuck, and when I do I do my best to do as much research on it as possible.
Just know those conservatives you are always sucking up to will one day turn on you, and it won't be pretty. I just hope Scotland has better safeguards in place to avoid radicals taking over than we do.
I think I will rename you Shallow Hal. You just don't get it, do you. Blacks are ALREADY succumbing to the virus at 2 to 3 times the rate as whites. No matter how bad the virus will get, it will pass. From the inception of this country, racism has not passed and it appears it will not pass without a fight. White christianity has put a white, patriarchal, authoritarian stamp on this society. It will take huge efforts to reverse those trends. I am NOT for destruction of private property. Destroying a Target or Walmart will not accomplish anything. But by showing up in numbers and defying trump cerfews or calls for military action, will. Confronting the police, where they need to be confronted will gain attention, as well. Something has to be done.
The protests aren't about Floyd. He was just the catalyst. The problem is systemic racism, especially in the justice system, which is not unique to America. I don't know what it's like where you are, and I don't presume to understand countries I've never lived in (*clears throat*), but racism is pretty universal. Maybe it's worse here in the supposed "melting pot," but I can't say.
Munch, tone down your bullshit. People are under serious stress and fear for their future. Nobody has to put up with your masturbation.
Especially because he doesn't even fucking live here.
Quick question (mostly to gauge your level of awareness): why do you think the people at the protests are wearing masks?
The UK is a far more racist country than the US. Generally all Europe is. And in my opinion, they 'know' that perfectly well. LOL
better question, how many people at the protests are wearing masks?Not answering is an automatic fail. Dunno why I expected anything else.
I will tell a little tale on myself. In the late 60's my parents were stationed (Dad was a civilian attached to the Army) in Germany. One summer I got to visit them (I was in college) and went on a Paris trip sponsored an Army organization. It was a 3 day trip and I shared a room with a GI. We went to Place Pigalle to see the Folies Bergère. Anyway, we were on the streets after 1 am, and it was filled with prostitutes. Well, until some Black men (from Algeria, I think) were across the street simply walking along. It was funny--it was like they were a wave--as they proceeded down the street, the prostitutes evaporated for about a half a block--and popped back out after they had passed. Not even the prostitutes wanted anything to do with the blacks. I was young, and I was shocked. I learned then, that Europe was racist.
That is hilarious. I would take a black friend through that red light district, just to see his amazing super power to make prostitutes disappear. But one of them would probably call the cops on him for suspiciously walking down the road, so better not.
BTW, to give a little credit to my mom (which I can't do often, on account of stuff I won't get into now), she was using one of those apps that connects you with people in your neighborhood. Somebody posted about a "suspicious black man" walking through the neighborhood. She, and basically everyone else's response was, "What is he doing that is suspicious?" Good for the non-racists for calling that person out, but yeesh. As of last December, my sister is married to a black man, and she told me her husband doesn't jog around his own block because he's afraid of that kinda shit happening to him.
I will tell a little tale on myself. In the late 60's my parents were stationed (Dad was a civilian attached to the Army) in Germany. One summer I got to visit them (I was in college) and went on a Paris trip sponsored an Army organization. It was a 3 day trip and I shared a room with a GI. We went to Place Pigalle to see the Folies Bergère. Anyway, we were on the streets after 1 am, and it was filled with prostitutes. Well, until some Black men (from Algeria, I think) were across the street simply walking along. It was funny--it was like they were a wave--as they proceeded down the street, the prostitutes evaporated for about a half a block--and popped back out after they had passed. Not even the prostitutes wanted anything to do with the blacks. I was young, and I was shocked. I learned then, that Europe was racist.
Over 10,000 Americans have now been arrested because the government refused to arrest 4 murderers.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/06/floyd-protests-esper-opposes-trump-threat-send-military-200603145130628.html (https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/06/floyd-protests-esper-opposes-trump-threat-send-military-200603145130628.html)
Edit: And on that note...
Brooklyn Jail Inmate Pepper Sprayed to Death
https://www.pix11.com/news/local-news/brooklyn/brooklyn-inmate-dies-in-custody-after-being-pepper-sprayed-by-staff-doj (https://www.pix11.com/news/local-news/brooklyn/brooklyn-inmate-dies-in-custody-after-being-pepper-sprayed-by-staff-doj)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_FE78X-qdY
Apparently, there will be a gathering in from of the Trump Tower in İstanbul to support American people. I have no idea how many people would show up. If it was 5-6 years ago...LOL We have passed all this, we are in a far worse place.
Or are the prostitutes just avoiding anyone who might be a pimp?
Umm... What? Are you saying that black men look like pimps?
Over 10,000 Americans have now been arrested because the government refused to arrest 4 murderers.Well, they have now. (https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/03/us/george-floyd-officers-charges/index.html) Took them a while to get to it. And a lot of blood was unnecessarily spilled because of it. Now, instead of just one police brutality incident to prosecute, there are dozens, perhaps hundreds to prosecute. Chop chop!
Well, they have now. (https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/03/us/george-floyd-officers-charges/index.html) Took them a while to get to it. And a lot of blood was unnecessarily spilled because of it. Now, instead of just one police brutality incident to prosecute, there are dozens, perhaps hundreds to prosecute. Chop chop!
Don't know about anybody else, but to me this is highly disturbing. Shades of Gestapo or Russian or Chinese or North Korean secret police. Smacks of what dictator trump would like to do on a regular basis. And now he has his toady. Barr even looks like Goring.Straight out of Russia's playbook. Little Green Men, I believe they were called. These - whatever they are - don't have any ID so they are essentially above the law. Highly disturbing and a direct contradiction of the rule of law.
Edit posts to make them more clear. Of course non-Americans want to burn America down, and will help Americans burning America down. This is why even if I could, I will never be a tourist again. You don't need our money (or gauche-ness).
In actually good news:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDCNVbUkrrA
Turns out that if police put the batons down, there's no violence. If you treat citizens as citizens, and not enemy combatants, things can be settled peacefully. Weird how that works.
William Barr’s Vast, Nameless Army Is Being Brought To Bear On D.C. Protesters
Federal law enforcement officers are operating on American streets without identification, which experts say breeds a culture of impunity.
Don't know about anybody else, but to me this is highly disturbing. Shades of Gestapo or Russian or Chinese or North Korean secret police. Smacks of what dictator trump would like to do on a regular basis. And now he has his toady. Barr even looks like Goring.
This is disturbing. We are walking away from a democracy. It didn't even take a Chinese or Russian invasion. And it's not the liberals doing it. This is hard core right wing shit.
Straight out of Russia's playbook. Little Green Men, I believe they were called. These - whatever they are - don't have any ID so they are essentially above the law. Highly disturbing and a direct contradiction of the rule of law.
Three "Bogaloo" far-right radicals arrested in Las Vegas for attempting to incite violence. I guess this completely discredits the right-wings criticisms of the protests, and means they all complicity support police brutality and terrorism.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/06/anti-terrorist-unit-arrests-followers-protest-200604062308834.html?utm_campaign=trueAnthem%3A+Trending+Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR3zFpFNIMe-2PXleuUEn5FCF9Y4gevcpZJm3sOo9XG_tlnRjzHt_jysdOA (https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/06/anti-terrorist-unit-arrests-followers-protest-200604062308834.html?utm_campaign=trueAnthem%3A+Trending+Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR3zFpFNIMe-2PXleuUEn5FCF9Y4gevcpZJm3sOo9XG_tlnRjzHt_jysdOA)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1L19BBrjcI
Armed and dangerous and at large. The police, not the man being assaulted on live tv.
Have to wonder, if this occurred 6-8 years ago with Obama in office, and if there was a pandemic the same as today back then, would the reaction have been the same? Would tensions have been the same during that period that lead to this?No, because Obama would have dealt with it based on advice from experts rather than making up bullshit as it suited him.
No, because Obama would have dealt with it based on advice from experts rather than making up bullshit as it suited him.
Also in Buffalo NY, police shove elderly man to the ground (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/video-shows-elderly-man-hitting-his-head-on-the-ground-after-being-shoved-by-police-in-buffalo/) and he bleeds from the head. The initial police account was that "one person was injured when he tripped and fell." Isn't that the sort of self-serving lying that abusive husbands engage in?
The two officers were suspended without pay. Quick response and no "two weeks paid leave" crap? I'm surprised. Probably not as surprised as that old man, though. What'd be truly surprising is if events like this where someone is gravely injured with malice start getting prosecuted as if the law applied to police and citizens equally.
Because high-complaint officers attract like-minded colleagues, they tend to be surrounded within the network by others like them.
Officers prone to misconduct do more than draw in others like them. The data shows that they also may be teaching their colleagues bad habits.
The officers who had been exposed to the contagious, misconduct-prone cops at the center of complaint networks went on to show complaint rates nine times higher over the next ten years than those who hadn’t.
Their behavior often escalates beyond complaints to more serious violence. The same cops who are exposed to other high complaint officers go on to be listed on four times as many uses of force per year in the next few years. They also commit shootings at rates more than five times higher than their colleagues who weren’t exposed to misbehaving officers.
she also invoked the 3rd Amendment to have the National Guard Trump brought in kicked out of their hotels and is informing them they are no longer welcome in the capital.Heard about that. I also saw Sen Mike Lee throw a infantile tantrum about it on twitter, apparently convinced that it's a sign of "ingratitude" to send away armed soldiers quartered in the hotel in clear violation of the constitution. You'll never guess his political affiliation. He's described as leaning "libertarian", too. They must've meant authoritarian.
16th Street, Washington D.C. , which runs near the church where protesters and clergy were violently displaced so Trump could get a photo op at a church, has been renamed by the Mayor as "Black Lives Matter Plaza". But the mayor didn't stop with just that symbolic slap in Trump's face... she also invoked the 3rd Amendment to have the National Guard Trump brought in kicked out of their hotels and is informing them they are no longer welcome in the capital.
(For our foreign members, the 3rd Amendment states that the government cannot quarter troops in private property during times of peace, which was a really big deal for us as the English were doing exactly that with their Quartering Act, forcing Americans to pay for their lodging in inns, ale houses and homes.)
It's good to see the mayor reminding him that D.C. belongs to her and the people of the city, not him. For a city of over 700,000 who have no Congressional representation, the mayor doing stuff like this is about the most the city can do to assert it's own autonomy.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZwnP7pXQAA5Vy1?format=jpg&name=medium)
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/06/05/black-lives-matter-mural-painted-near-white-house-mayors-behest/3153364001/ (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/06/05/black-lives-matter-mural-painted-near-white-house-mayors-behest/3153364001/)
https://www.sltrib.com/news/politics/2020/06/05/utah-national-guard/ (https://www.sltrib.com/news/politics/2020/06/05/utah-national-guard/)
Also in Buffalo NY, police shove elderly man to the ground (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/video-shows-elderly-man-hitting-his-head-on-the-ground-after-being-shoved-by-police-in-buffalo/) and he bleeds from the head. The initial police account was that "one person was injured when he tripped and fell." Isn't that the sort of self-serving lying that abusive husbands engage in?I heard that 57 of the other cops resigned to protest the suspension of the 2.
The two officers were suspended without pay and an investigation in the works. Quick response and no "two weeks paid leave" crap? I'm surprised. Probably not as surprised as that old man, though. What'd be truly surprising is if events like this where someone is gravely injured with malice start getting prosecuted as if the law applied to police and citizens equally.
Now cops are saying ''Badges? We don't got no badges. We don't need no stinking badges!''
I heard that 57 of the other cops resigned to protest the suspension of the 2.They didn't resign from the police force. They resigned from the "Emergency Response Team" (aka Team Elder Abuse)
The union representing Buffalo police officers told its rank-and-file members Friday that the union would no longer pay for legal fees to defend police officers related to the protests. The union is upset with the treatment of the two officers who were suspended.Sounds good, doesn't it? Just wait for the punchline.
Evans said the PBA stands "behind those officers 100%" and that the union would pay for any defense costs for the two officers, Evans said.Lessons NOT learned.
"Our position is these officers were simply following orders from Deputy Police Commissioner Joseph Gramaglia to clear the square," Evans said. "It doesn't specify clear the square of men, 50 and under or 15 to 40. They were simply doing their job. I don't know how much contact was made. He did slip in my estimation. He fell backwards.""She tripped and fell down some stairs. Right, hon?"
Erie County Executive Mark Poloncarz said Friday afternoon that "if they've resigned, I'm exceptionally disappointed by it because it indicates to me that they did not see anything wrong with the actions that occurred that night."Yeah, very disappointing.
(https://i.imgur.com/3ZXOU1X.png)(https://imgur.com/a/skjnCx5)
The President of the United States threatening to call either the military or his "Little Green Men" on the Mayor of an American city for... *checks notes*... enacting her constitutional rights.
I heard that 57 of the other cops resigned to protest the suspension of the 2.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMif3nYMfgM
JFC.
Defense Secretary Mark T. Esper made the decision to disarm the guard without consulting the White House, after President Trump ordered a militarized show of force on the streets of WashingtonTwitter tantrum in 3...2...1...
(Yes, it's satire.)Too bad. I wan't one for my book shelves. It's not like I need to hide a gun or drugs. I just think it's cool. I would put a little note inside so whoever opened it would see my note that says, "Fuck You."
"Zondervan Releases Hollow Bible For Political Photo Ops"Satire? Bummer. That was the first actually useful looking bible I've ever seen -- I mean, you could store things in it and not just waste bookshelf space!
(Yes, it's satire.)
"Zondervan Releases Hollow Bible For Political Photo Ops"
(https://babylonbee.com/img/articles/article-6312-1.jpg)
https://babylonbee.com/news/zondervan-releases-hollow-bible-for-political-photo-ops?utm_content=bufferef1ac&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer&fbclid=IwAR1syOJ8cR0HXXhcGi5Y2UyfB1uBSSURbJT1TWcsCi8JX8rRy50mQNXcuUQ
(Yes, it's satire.)
Esper disarms national guard, sends them home (https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/pentagon-disarms-guardsmen-in-washington-dc-in-signal-of-de-escalation/2020/06/05/324da91a-a733-11ea-8681-7d471bf20207_story.html?outputType=amp)
Twitter tantrum in 3...2...1...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbHGAu9Kn_c
Memorial service for George Floyd today in Raeford, North Carolina - where he was born. NC state flag at half mast.
Memorial service for George Floyd today in Raeford, North Carolina - where he was born. NC state flag at half mast.Way to go NC! In retaliation, Trump will send the Federal Military and equipment, just so you know who's the boss.
Memorial service for George Floyd today in Raeford, North Carolina - where he was born. NC state flag at half mast.Ordinarily, Trump would not send the military for a memorial service, but Skin Heads, Nazis, and and White Supremacists from the Charlotte debacle were not available to him on such short notice.
Too bad. I wan't one for my book shelves. It's not like I need to hide a gun or drugs. I just think it's cool. I would put a little note inside so whoever opened it would see my note that says, "Fuck You."Funny enough, I did hollow out a babble which I used to store my pot. Took it on our graduation trip. Our chaperone - also our principal- came into our room one night complaining that he heard we were smoking dope. Searched the room but obviously not the obvious place to stash pot. He would never had thought one would be so “evil” as to hide pot in a babble.
Way to go NC! In retaliation, Trump will send the Federal Military and equipment, just so you know who's the boss.
Ordinarily, Trump would not send the military for a memorial service, but Skin Heads, Nazis, and and White Supremacists from the Charlotte debacle were not available to him on such short notice.
Funny enough, I did hollow out a babble which I used to store my pot. Took it on our graduation trip. Our chaperone - also our principal- came into our room one night complaining that he heard we were smoking dope. Searched the room but obviously not the obvious place to stash pot. He would never had thought one would be so “evil” as to hide pot in a babble.
The pig who shoved that 75 year old man to the ground in Buffalo, posing the day before in "solidarity" with the protesters.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZuLGAnU0AcUHKv?format=jpg&name=medium)
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It happened in Buffalo, it happened in Houston, it happened in Austin, it happened in Atlanta, it happened in Philly, it happened in the Twin Cities, it happens in LA, Portland, Seattle, New York, etc. ... the cops will bow, pray and show solidarity with the protesters... then as soon as they get their feel good photos, they start cracking skulls and gassing them.
Fuck 12, ACAB.
The victim was driving with two friends when Martins and Hall — who were not in uniform — pulled her over and found marijuana and Klonopin pills. After they detained her, according to the Brooklyn District Attorney’s office, “the woman had sexual intercourse with Martins and performed a sex act on Hall,” before releasing her without an arrest.
DNA was later obtained from the victim that matched both men.
New York law already prohibits sex between prison guards and inmates. The policy, prior to the incident, didn’t apply to officers and those in their custody.
A Predator drone was deployed on the Minneapolis protest (https://m.startribune.com/which-agency-wanted-drone-flown-over-minneapolis-protests/571051962/) (which btw, is illegal for obvious reasons)
The conservatives must hate this Big Government overreach.
A Predator drone was deployed on the Minneapolis protest (https://m.startribune.com/which-agency-wanted-drone-flown-over-minneapolis-protests/571051962/) (which btw, is illegal for obvious reasons)
The conservatives must hate this Big Government overreach.
A Predator drone was deployed on the Minneapolis protest (https://m.startribune.com/which-agency-wanted-drone-flown-over-minneapolis-protests/571051962/) (which btw, is illegal for obvious reasons)They're starting to (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/elections-2020/exclusive-in-warning-sign-for-trump-republicans-growing-pessimistic-about-countrys-direction/ar-BB159Lg1?li=BBnbfcL&ocid=mailsignout), although almost certainly not for 'big government' reasons. If this polling is accurate—17% of Republicans plan voting for Biden, only 63% currently commit to voting for the Orange Disaster Area—these aren't merely troubling numbers for the Oval Orifice, they're positively cataclysmic. Given the razor-thin path that saddled us with Shithead in 2016, anything that causes Republican defections or depresses Republican turnout is a political death sentence.
The conservatives must hate this Big Government overreach.
“Many people in these communities of color feel they have been the subject of police violence for decades. And when an officer engages in conduct that adds or enhances that divide, they are ultimately jeopardizing the integrity of their agencies and putting their fellow officers in danger.”
Also, a judge apparently suspended habeaus corpus in NYC (https://www.insider.com/nyc-judge-suspends-24-hour-arraignment-rule-drawing-aocs-ire-2020-6), allowing police to hold people for longer than 24 hours without charge. There's a reason that's in the constitution. It's so we don't have people "disappear" in custody like in authoritarian regimes.
WTF?? A false flag from the trumpanits?
A 4 year old article that has become relevant from PBS:
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/fbi-white-supremacists-in-law-enforcement (https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/fbi-white-supremacists-in-law-enforcement)
This is police brutality issue not a racist issue.It's both. The two are not mutually exclusive, and it has become part of black life, while it's not something whites worry about on a daily basis. It's definitely racist. Law enforcement has become a legalized KKK, and if you protest, even non-violently as a white guy, you're likely to get knocked on the head with a baton.
So I read up about this George Floyd case and I know it was wrong for a cop to kill a man when in custody, but this man was a criminal that stole and had a armed robbery against a African family and even threatened to kill a pregnant African woman. Who also was on illegal drugs at the time when he gave a counterfeit 20 dollar bill. Also why is this a race thing? Because it was a white cop and a black man? This is police brutality issue not a racist issue.
It's both. The two are not mutually exclusive, and it has become part of black life, while it's not something whites worry about on a daily basis. It's definitely racist. Law enforcement has become a legalized KKK, and if you protest, even non-violently as a white guy, you're likely to get knocked on the head with a baton.
So I read up about this George Floyd case and I know it was wrong for a cop to kill a man when in custody, but this man was a criminal that stole and had a armed robbery against a African family and even threatened to kill a pregnant African woman. Who also was on illegal drugs at the time when he gave a counterfeit 20 dollar bill. Also why is this a race thing? Because it was a white cop and a black man? This is police brutality issue not a racist issue.Actually, it's both race and police brutality. And his record has nothing to do with being chocked to death by a cop. He could be a career criminal and that would still not excuse what that cop did.
Actually, it's both race and police brutality. And his record has nothing to do with being chocked to death by a cop. He could be a career criminal and that would still not excuse what that cop did.
It's both. The two are not mutually exclusive, and it has become part of black life, while it's not something whites worry about on a daily basis. It's definitely racist. Law enforcement has become a legalized KKK, and if you protest, even non-violently as a white guy, you're likely to get knocked on the head with a baton.
...but as soon as you see a white man doing anything violent to a black man you deem it "racist" is not a good outlook.
No it's not. People just assume that it was. Yes there is racial cop brutality, but as soon as you see a white man doing anything violent to a black man you deem it "racist" is not a good outlook.https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/inside-100-million-police-traffic-stops-new-evidence-racial-bias-n980556
No it's not. People just assume that it was. Yes there is racial cop brutality, but as soon as you see a white man doing anything violent to a black man you deem it "racist" is not a good outlook.
Police trap peaceful protestors while ordering them to disperse (https://twitter.com/MikeApe7/status/1269533701194444800)
Why?
Edit: And let me go one further: Why, particularly in a situation where an organization known for targeting minorities at a significantly higher rate and abusing their power against them at a significantly higher rate?
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/inside-100-million-police-traffic-stops-new-evidence-racial-bias-n980556
What else can you call racial prejudice mixed with racial violence but racism?
Comedians for President? At least it would be a laugh ;-(I'd vote for Jon Stewart.
Why?
Edit: And let me go one further: Why, particularly in a situation where an organization known for targeting minorities at a significantly higher rate and abusing their power against them at a significantly higher rate?
Yes there is a racial problem in the justice program.So...is there racism going on or not?
So you would label everything done against a minority ethnicity is racist because past history and grudges.
Not all white people are racist.
Not all conflict with minorities and white people are a racial thing.
Also not every cop is an arrogant SOB.
But you shouldn't fight hate with hate.
Police trap peaceful protestors while ordering them to disperse (https://twitter.com/MikeApe7/status/1269533701194444800)Well, you got all these weapons of destruction and high tech punishing devices. If people just run away from you, how much fun is that? Since you're overstaffed anyway, you might as well use those guys on bikes to pen them in. Kind of like shooting fish in a barrel. It's pointless, but there's still lots of action and a lot of fun for all.
We are so doomed. Is it wrong of me to wish for less Americans so I might get a career as a museum curator?
Just days after Seattle’s mayor and police chief promised a month-long moratorium on using a type of tear gas to disperse protesters, the department used it again during an overnight protest — bringing severe criticism Monday from City Council members, vows to overhaul the department and an additional call for the mayor’s resignation.
“How many people need to write in about being gassed in their own homes? How many people have to be sprayed in the street every night or experience getting hit with flash bombs or rubber bullets?” Council Member Teresa Mosqueda said during a council briefing.
Mosqueda, the Seattle council’s budget chair, announced an inquest into the police budget to get a better understanding of how the department spends money. She said she wants to cut police funding by half and reinvest the money “in communities that we’ve failed,” including in affordable housing and mass transit.If the community is subsidizing their own abuse, literally buying the baton that beats them and the gas they choke on (a chemical weapon designed to induce severe coughing is especially dangerous during a pandemic, btw), then imho it makes sense to look to other ways of allocating those funds, because obviously the current system isn't working.
Officers ordered people to disperse and announced on Twitter that “CS gas has been authorized,” referring to tear gas. In the same tweet, the department said there was a man with a gun in the intersection; it was not clear whether that referred to the same driver who had been arrested hours earlier, or, if it was a different gunman, why the department would use clouds of tear gas, potentially obscuring where he was.Curious. Very curious.
So I read up about this George Floyd case and I know it was wrong for a cop to kill a man when in custody, but this man was a criminal that stole and had a armed robbery against a African family and even threatened to kill a pregnant African woman. Who also was on illegal drugs at the time when he gave a counterfeit 20 dollar bill. Also why is this a race thing? Because it was a white cop and a black man? This is police brutality issue not a racist issue.Well, let me ask this: even if he was stoned, and even if he'd passed a counterfeit $20... since when are either of those capital offenses?
Well, let me ask this: even if he was stoned, and even if he'd passed a counterfeit $20... since when are either of those capital offenses?Or being old and slow-moving. Or a medic tending to a wounded person. Or the high crime of being a journalist and simply filming, which has deeply unsettling implications.
I've been trying to understanding what this culture understands from 'protest'. I realise that this is something that keeps changing. And unfortunately, the change is the same everywhere.And I might suggest, scared mixed with pissed to fight the 'scared'. And now is a good time to be scared.
So as far as I understand, the majority trying to be at the right of the history missed the point.
You don't go out to protest because you are brave. You go out because you are fucking scared.
I've been trying to understanding what this culture understands from 'protest'. I realise that this is something that keeps changing. And unfortunately, the change is the same everywhere.
So as far as I understand, the majority trying to be at the right of the history missed the point.
You don't go out to protest because you are brave. You go out because you are fucking scared.
I just saw, on CBS, that Floyd and Chauvin ''had a history of not getting along,'' so there may have been some personal animosity in the murder.
Well, let me ask this: even if he was stoned, and even if he'd passed a counterfeit $20... since when are either of those capital offenses?
It's all about blaming the victim.
You don't go out to protest because you are brave. You go out because you are fucking scared.“Bran thought about it. 'Can a man still be brave if he's afraid?'
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It must be hard to endure that sort of rejudice and hate and extremely mild to nonexistent discrimination. Be brave!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPRmzpGyycY
If you're not ashamed, you're not a good cop. If you beat people unnecessarily, you're not a good cop. If you murdered people, you're not a good cop. If you stood by and watched and didn't say a word, you're not a good cop.
We need good cops, now more than ever. We don't need the rest.
Minnesota state troopers admit to "strategically" slashing tires (https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/minnesota-state-patrol-deflated-tires-protests-george-floyd-black-lives-matter/)
Would this be the case if it wasn't caught on camera?
Campaign Zero (https://www.joincampaignzero.org/#vision) has some interesting solutions for minimizing police violence. Their site has a lot of information.When this first started, I would've been fine with just 3 (no excessive force) and 6 (bodycams). I talked to my brother about this and he's adamant about 4 (https://www.joincampaignzero.org/investigations). He said that without some sort of external oversight, there's no way these forces are going to serve the community like they're supposed to - internal affairs just ain't cutting it. Considering the ample evidence of police brutality lately, I'm inclined to agree.
Trump: "Radical Left Governor @JayInslee and the Mayor of Seattle are being taunted and played at a level that our great Country has never seen before. Take back your city NOW. If you don’t do it, I will. This is not a game. These ugly Anarchists must be stooped [sic] IMMEDIATELY. MOVE FAST!"
In response, Inslee Tweeted: "A man who is totally incapable of governing should stay out of Washington state’s business. “Stoop” tweeting."
Seattle Mayor Jenny Durkan replied on Twitter with "Make us all safe. Go back to your bunker. #BlackLivesMatter"
Trump followed up with "Domestic Terrorists have taken over Seattle, run by Radical Left Democrats, of course. LAW & ORDER!"
When this first started, I would've been fine with just 3 (no excessive force) and 6 (bodycams). I talked to my brother about this and he's adamant about 4 (https://www.joincampaignzero.org/investigations). He said that without some sort of external oversight, there's no way these forces are going to serve the community like they're supposed to - internal affairs just ain't cutting it. Considering the ample evidence of police brutality lately, I'm inclined to agree.I'm pretty much of the same opinion. A few years ago, I was skeptical about police brutality. Today, I see it as an undeniable phenomenon that is widespread and endemic. It should not be that way. I've been cited by respectful cops, but it's been in small towns where the Sheriff is your neighbor. I don't think I saw the whole picture. This needs to stop, starting with the way police are handling protests. Trump is not helping.
I suppose I have brutal cops to thank for inadvertently pushing America towards major changes. Earlier, I would have been okay with the status quo with fairly minor tweaks. Now, I see that the whole system has to be restructured in a way that protects the community from thuggish behavior. And I have the brutal cops to thank it - for forcing this ugliness into the spotlight.
When this first started, I would've been fine with just 3 (no excessive force) and 6 (bodycams). I talked to my brother about this and he's adamant about 4 (https://www.joincampaignzero.org/investigations). He said that without some sort of external oversight, there's no way these forces are going to serve the community like they're supposed to - internal affairs just ain't cutting it. Considering the ample evidence of police brutality lately, I'm inclined to agree.
https://www.king5.com/article/news/local/two-thirds-of-national-guard-deployed-for-washington-protests-are-de-mobilizing-governor-says/281-5353e27b-704e-48a1-86ff-a084aecc92ce
Ahahahah "Radical Left". Gawd, American right wing terminology... I wish these people would actually get to know what is 'radical left' in their life time. The Central Liberal Right is Radical Left in the US. Lololol. Guys...sigh.
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I'm pretty much of the same opinion. A few years ago, I was skeptical about police brutality. Today, I see it as an undeniable phenomenon that is widespread and endemic. It should not be that way. I've been cited by respectful cops, but it's been in small towns where the Sheriff is your neighbor. I don't think I saw the whole picture. This needs to stop, starting with the way police are handling protests. Trump is not helping.
Protests are legal. Rioting, looting, arson and insurrection are not protests!
There are legal forms of protest, illegal forms of protest, non-violent protest and violent protest. I don't support violent protests. I might support illegal protests depending on the circumstances. I agree smashing the window of a small, minority-owned bakery and grabbing a cheesecake and a bottle of wine (which happened where I live) isn't actually a protest.
Don't join the BS. Truth is False. Falsehood is True. This is typical semantic confusion.I'm pretty sure if the protests were confined to a park somewhere, the protests wouldn't achieve anything other than be a small nuisance.
Islam is a religion of peace (not). There are legal complications with marches and protests ... but none of that is violence. Do you have a permit for your march etc. That illegality isn't equal to arson. This was a big problem last year with Extinction Rebellion in London. They were blocking traffic and even commuter trains. That is illegal for a good reason. If the demonstrations were restricted to Hyde Park, that would be OK.
I'm pretty sure if the protests were confined to a park somewhere, the protests wouldn't achieve anything other than be a small nuisance.
So you support burning down the WH and killing the President, to show you are serious? That isn't "redress of grievances".Why are you so full of shit?
What gets political notice is not reelecting incumbents. All of this isn't just politicians ignoring you, it is voters being deplorables.
Sorry, your just a violent revolutionary, who is virtue signaling (officer, I didn't mean to torch that car).
Why are you so full of shit?
I saw this all before. It was such a Greening of America, Nixon was elected. Please be a criminal, so that Trump will be re-elected then.History repeating itself is because we forget what happened last generation, and people don't read history books or watch history documentaries.
People who forget history, just repeat it. The Seattle Soviet is threatening to suicide if they aren't fed. Don't remember Jim Jones, do they?
So you support burning down the WH and killing the President, to show you are serious? That isn't "redress of grievances".
What gets political notice is not reelecting incumbents. All of this isn't just politicians ignoring you, it is voters being deplorables.
Sorry, you're just a violent revolutionary, who is virtue signaling (officer, I didn't mean to torch that car)? Toddlers with molotov cocktails.
I want what I want right now, and if the voting doesn't support me, I will sit down in the middle of the grocery aisle and cry!
History repeating itself is because we forget what happened last generation, and people don't read history books or watch history documentaries.
With that down, why are you so full of shit?
I remember when I learned that traffic cops get paid based on the number of citations they wrote, and that they had a quota to fill. That is absolutely ridiculous. They essentially gain from another's loss. I understand skepticism with a cop making few to no citations, but basing their income on how many tickets they write? BTW, you should be more careful driving near the end of the month. That's when they must meet their quota.
I remember when I learned that traffic cops get paid based on the number of citations they wrote, and that they had a quota to fill. That is absolutely ridiculous. They essentially gain from another's loss. I understand skepticism with a cop making few to no citations, but basing their income on how many tickets they write? BTW, you should be more careful driving near the end of the month. That's when they must meet their quota.If you think that's bad, some prisons operate on a quota system (http://www.njjn.org/uploads/digital-library/Criminal-Lockup-Quota,-In-the-Public-Interest,-9.13.pdf). In other words, the priority is on filling cells (and conspicuously, making money in the process) rather than protecting the community.
Prison guards have a lot more ways to hurt people in their care than just beating them up.For real. I recently heard that they charge inmates by the minute for reading (https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2020/jan/13/us-states-move-to-stop-prisons-charging-inmates-for-reading-and-video-calls) on an e-reader. Roughly 1 hour of hard labor for one minute of reading! FFS, isn't the whole point to rehabilitate these people?
The Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department is investigating the death of a 24-year-old Black man who was found hanging from a tree near Palmdale City Hall earlier this week, authorities said.
Sheriff’s officials said Friday that it appeared the man died by suicide, though a full autopsy is planned.
A passerby spotted the man’s body at 3:39 a.m. Wednesday in the 38300 block of 9th Street East, according to authorities.
Emergency personnel responded to the scene and determined that the man — later identified as Robert Fuller — was dead, authorities said.
Though, if it wasn't a suicide, would they say so? Surely they know how the nation would react.
In defense of the police alot of the "peaceful protesters" are arrogantly disrespecting the policeAllow me to play Mad World on the world's smallest violin.
and threatening to cause violence.At least that one's actually a crime - communicating threats. Though I wonder, which is worse, threatening to cause violence or actually causing violence? Hmmm...
For a police man using tactics to control the mob is best because it can lead to burning of buildings and cars, unlawful land occupations, violence against other people, especially police men who's job is to be out there in the middle of the rioting.That's unlawful and wrong of course. And it's the police's job to catch people doing such crimes. It is not their job to pepperspray people who simply had the misfortune to be in their field of vision, to permanently blind journalists with "less lethal" rounds, or to use CS gas after agreeing to not use CS gas for a month. It is also not the police's job to act as judge, jury, and executioner - which is the whole reason these people are protesting in the first place.
The mob or riots also block traffic. How would you feel is you need to go get supplies, groceries, and or medication and there was a wall of humans stopping you. Especially when the need is great for supplies.Fortunately, the police are well equipped and trained to break up such congestion with minimal harm. They don't need to shove over grandpa and send him to the ER because he was walking away too slow and then lie and tell the world that he "tripped".
Unfortunately true.I am only speculating. I don't know either way, of course. Though when Floyd's autopsy result failed to mention asphyxiation (https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/voices/george-floyds-autopsy-and-the-structural-gaslighting-of-america/)(a rather glaring oversight) and Breonna Taylor's autopsy result lists no injuries (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/louisville-police-breonna-taylor-death-incident-report/) (she was shot at least 8 times by police and although I'm no medical expert, I'm pretty sure that getting shot counts as an injury), my level of trust has taken a bit of a hit and I've gotten to the point that I'm no longer content to merely take their word for it, though I seem to have little choice.
And Atlanta's police chief has now resigned over the shooting in the back of an unarmed black man fleeing from police on Friday night.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/13/us/atlanta-police-shooting-rayshard-brooks.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur
What are they trying to do? I mean, really, what is it, what is the gain, what are they trying to prove? Naked agression wins?! No shit! They're trying to instill fear so build 'order' on that? It's nothing but a short cut to create a society based on crime. That's how human behaviour evolves under these circumstances. We are living through this.There is a political tactic called doubling down, and I think this may be part of it. The National Rifle Association does it. When people say, "Let's take guns off the street," the NRA says, "No. No. We should arm teachers. Trump does it and the police are doing it, or maybe it's coincidence that there's more killing in the midst of protests calling for less killing. Maybe the press is just being more vigilant and reporting more because it's a current hot topic, which is not very reassuring, because that would mean it happens more than is reported. Doubling down seems most often done with aggressive actions, or in the case of politicians with an aggressive threatening demeanor. It s bully tactic. I'm not sure if the tactic works or not. I'm not sure if peaceful protests even work either. The status quo is very resistant to change, even positive change.
(https://i.imgur.com/9Lfi3jc.jpg)Hell, they're only just getting started.
Another one! Man, bullshit central has been busy lately!
Hey Mike, I didn't know flowers like seafood!Flowers love seafood!! bury a salmon and put some flowers on them--the flowers simply love salmon.
Sadly, the George Floyd protests have already gone off script.
The practical upshot is, the idea of judging someone on the basis of the color of their skin is genuinely completely alien to me. I mean, genuinely inconceivable. In my home town, the schools have always been integrated, the "races" (a bullshit term, we're all homo sapiens) always went to school together and hung out together.Sadly, that has not been my experience.
The practical upshot is, the idea of judging someone on the basis of the color of their skin is genuinely completely alien to me. I mean, genuinely inconceivable. In my home town, the schools have always been integrated, the "races" (a bullshit term, we're all homo sapiens) always went to school together and hung out together. One of my favorite pictures of my grandfather is of his high school basketball team in the 1930s -- and it was fully integrated. I know of no reports of other teams in the league refusing to play us because our team reflected the local population.
Yes, in my home town, Poles lived near Poles. Slovaks lived near Slovaks. Ukrainians lived near Ukrainians. And everyone else lived near everyone else. Because of language, though, not because of racism. And even that wasn't really a hard and fast rule. We're Polish, but we lived in the Slovak part of town, and went to the Slovak Catholic church (SS Cyril & Methodius), due to conflicts with the Polish Catholic Church (S Mary Magdalene) that my parents have never, even nearly 60 years later, explained.
But fundamentally, there was never a time in my life we didn't have non-white people over to my parents' house, or visiting friends in the (so called) 'Black' part of town.
It is genuinely inconceivable to me to think of someone as lesser for as stupid a reason as the color of their skin.
PORTLAND, Ore. — A member of Portland's city council said Thursday a newspaper's report that the commander for the police rapid response team exchanged friendly text messages with a leader of far-right protests that have rocked the city confirms collusion exists between some police and right-wing extremists.
"I am not shocked, and I am not surprised at today's reporting of Lt. Jeff Niiya's collaboration with Patriot Prayer leader Joey Gibson over text to provide aid and support for their hate marches," Councilwoman Jo Ann Hardesty said in a statement.
Willamette Week obtained text messages through a public records request between Niiya and Gibson. The texts purportedly show Niiya had a friendly rapport with Gibson, frequently discussing Gibson's plans to demonstrate.
In one text reported by the newspaper, Niiya tells Gibson that he doesn't see a need to arrest his assistant, Tusitala Toese, who often brawls with antifascist protesters, even if he has a warrant, unless Toese commits a new crime.
"Just make sure he doesn't do anything which may draw our attention," Niiya texted Gibson on Dec. 9, 2017, Willamette Week reported. "If he still has the warrant in the system (I don't run you guys so I don't personally know) the officers could arrest him. I don't see a need to arrest on the warrant unless there is a reason."
Steven Carrillo, one of two "Boogaloo" extremists who traveled to Oakland to murder police and blame it on BLM. They murdered an African American federal officer, Dave Underwood, who conservatives immediately jumped on to say that the protests had no credibility and was an excuse to discredit the entire BLM movement.Yaknow, at this point I'm inclined to have ACAB stand for 'All Conservatives Are Bastards'...
Another right-wing terrorist murderer, just adding to the statistic that the overwhelmingly majority of terrorist attacks in the United States are carried out by right-wing terrorists, in a country run by right-wing extremists (by Western standards, anyways).
Yaknow, at this point I'm inclined to have ACAB stand for 'All Conservatives Are Bastards'...
You know I used to think that Conservatives, like Democrats, honestly wanted what they believed was good for the country, and that their perspectives were worth considering in debates. But ever since Trump took office, the GOP has fucking lost it. They have no standards. There's nothing their orange dictator could do that they wouldn't try to justify or dismiss as "fake news." They'll even go so far as to contradict their own values when Trump says so. Trump says something against a veteran? Well, we love veterans, but Trump says he's stupid, so he must be stupid.
Republicans don't deserve a place at the table any more. Kick them out. Give Libertarians their spot.
Yaknow, at this point I'm inclined to have ACAB stand for 'All Conservatives Are Bastards'...
Uhhh...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcllE7fx8-I
"Feels like i'm watching GTA V television lol"
I'm sure there is a conservative third party out there somewhere who actually would make good politicians, but the capital L Libertarians sure as hell aint it.
But then when I'm thinking... you all would burn the house for a spider of the size of your hand.It's the only way to be sure. ;)
Let's talk about this when you can't call them 'Nazis'. I mean when it becomes illegal to call them Nazis; or becomes some case to sue you. Which is the very point of the Nazis. If it is as bad as you say it is...it will happen at some point. Which I really don't think so. Not the events of course. So may be we should relax.
But then when I'm thinking... you all would burn the house for a spider of the size of your hand.
What do you think would happen? There have never been any real protests in any period of history, anywhere around the world without riots or looting happening besides it. Unfortunately, this is how real protests look like. People die, buildings get burned down. Nobody 'defends' it. Nobody is defending it now. It's the usual outcome of a mass of people going out with rage.
You have never been in a protest in your life, have you? One person is enough for this to happen while tens of thousands go there with good intents. And with this particular issue, with a rage like this? What are they going to do, throw flowers around?
All the politicians are talking about the same thing because it is their job and they worry about the order. Nobody is trying to address these protests from a required point of view and trying to calm these people at least with a promise of justice.
Charged with third degree murder? Are you fucking kidding me? Third degree is manslaughter. This is NOT manslaughter, this is premediated murder with malicious intent. Manslaughter doesn't even include intent to kill. A 12 year old kid can tell the difference. Do you know the difference between manslaughter and first degree murder?
I swear, right wingers like those small annoying dogs. Yap yap yap dey're burniing down buildingsss yap yap yap... viooolence...yap yap yap...
On the other hand, can you even imagine for a second what would happen if a white man killed by a few black cops the way George Floyd was killed?
I'm not talking about figurative Nazis. I mean literal, self-proclaimed Nazis. Hell, when the Wolfenstein soft-reboot came out a few years ago, Conservatives took offense to it, because it's a game where you shoot Nazis. How the fuck did it become controversial to hate Nazis?
It's the only way to be sure. ;)
Antifa, short for anti-fascists, hasn’t killed anyone and appears to have been only a marginal presence in Black Lives Matter protests. None of those arrested on serious federal charges related to the unrest have been linked to antifa.
Race-baiting extremists have also tried to manipulate public fears. One Twitter account purportedly run by an antifa group, @Antifa_US, announced on May 31 that “tonight’s the night … we move into the residential areas … the white hoods … and we take what’s ours.” But Twitter said that the account was actually run by white supremacists posing as antifa.
These antifa panics are where racism and hysteria intersect, in a nation that has more guns than people. They arise when a lying president takes every opportunity not to heal our national divisions but to stoke them, when people live in a news ecosystem that provides no reality check but inflames prejudices and feeds fears.
You might think that this kind of hysteria would be self-correcting: Citizens would see that no antifa people show up and then realize that they had been manipulated by people who treat them as dummies. But the narrative actually gaining traction in some quarters is that guns forced the antifa to back off.
NBC News, which has published excellent accounts of this hysteria, quoted one armed “defender” of the remote town of Klamath Falls, Ore., as initially saying that antifa warriors were on the way “to burn everything and to kill white people.”
After none showed up, a local bar owner said on Facebook that he was proud of the armed turnout and boasted that antifa activists had been repelled because they “walked into a hornet’s nest.”
Yet these protesters are violent with hatred in their eyes.Well, *something* in their eyes... (https://www.insider.com/black-lives-matter-protesters-journalists-hurt-disabled-police-rubber-bullets-2020-6)
I have seen a piece about more recent black deaths suspected as lynchings. But there is nothing substantial on it. There are no news about Fueller you can reach by common search, if you don't look for it. And then a couple.
I think the States have never seen this level of censorship in its modern history. I've been told that it is because I don't have any social media account but NO. A big NO. I haven had one several years ago either. Everything used to explode to your face after typing a word.
Yep, censorship is so incredibly easy today, I really think it could be done without anyone having a clue. Just a few little tweaks to algorithms on the most popular search engines, and an entire realm of information could be cut off from anyone who doesn't know the specific information to look for.
I have seen a piece about more recent black deaths suspected as lynchings. But there is nothing substantial on it. There are no news about Fueller you can reach by common search, if you don't look for it. And then a couple.
I think the States have never seen this level of censorship in its modern history. I've been told that it is because I don't have any social media account but NO. A big NO. I haven had one several years ago either. Everything used to explode to your face after typing a word.
One of my coworkers, who is out due to suspected COVID infection, said her 7-year-old daughter has been crying hysterically whenever she sees pictures of George Floyd and is terrified she and her mom will be killed because they are black. She can't sleep at night because she is afraid someone is going to break into the house and shoot them. My coworker is going to take her to a therapist. The COVID pandemic and social unrest are difficult for adults to cope with and can be overwhelming for children.
BLM= $100 million per year from Soros. Ally of AntiFa. It is a terrorist political party. Blacks are trying to make Wakanda into a myth based religion.
"Malcolm Harsch, 38, was found hanging from a tree near the homeless encampment he was living in in Victorville, California, on May 31. Ten days later and 50 miles away, 24-year-old Robert Fuller was found in a similar manner across the street from City Hall in Palmdale, California. Across the country, 27-year-old Bronx resident Dominique Alexander was found hanging from a tree in a Manhattan park on June 9. And on Tuesday in Houston, Texas, an unidentified Black teenager was found hanged to death outside of an elementary school."This could all be coincidental, we are living in an economic depression/pandemic and certainly a very stressful time, especially for black people right now who suffer more from economic downturns and the long hood of law enforcement.
Hankison is accused by the department's interim chief, Robert Schroeder, of "blindly" firing 10 rounds into Taylor's apartment, creating a substantial danger of death and serious injury.Imo "danger of death" is a rather euphemistic way to describe actual death. It'd be like calling juggling chainsaws and lopping off my own hands "danger of dismemberment". When the hands are on the floor, it's no longer potential dismemberment, it's actual dismemberment.
The other two officers who fired their weapons at Taylor's apartment — Sgt. Jonathan Mattingly and Officer Myles Cosgrove — remain on administrative reassignment.For those not up on the five-O lingo, "administrative reassignment" is paid leave. The sort of thing most of us wish we got for surgeries or pregnancy. For the police, it's something you get when you gun down an innocent person.
4th suicide by hanging of a black man in the US (https://globalnews.ca/news/7074740/black-man-hanging-texas/) recently.
This could all be coincidental, we are living in an economic depression/pandemic and certainly a very stressful time, especially for black people right now who suffer more from economic downturns and the long hood of law enforcement.
Even so, it definitely raises eyebrows. Especially because in the Fuller case, the family insisted that he wasn't suicidal and that he had attended a BLM protest just two days prior.
If I was going to kill myself, hanging myself in a tree, in a public place, reminiscent of how people used to lynch my ancestors, would be the last method I'd resort to. And this is supposedly how four people (and possibly more in the future) are choosing to end their lives? Yeah, no. This is fishy as hell.Well, hanging is a pretty common suicide method and trees are apparently a popular place for that. In 2018, 48,344 Americans died by suicide. That's 132 per day. 28.6% were suffocation, with hanging being far and away the most popular. That's somewhere around 38 hangings per day. So a rash of suicides like that wouldn't be that much out of the norm.
You do realize the Soros story is an antisemitic conspiracy theory, right? You're making as much sense as a gay guy who's against Pride Month.
You do realize the Soros story is an antisemitic conspiracy theory, right? You're making as much sense as a gay guy who's against Pride Month.Are you really expecting Baruch to be making any sort of sense???? Sort of like expecting to Trump to start telling the truth.
Are you really expecting Baruch to be making any sort of sense???? Sort of like expecting to Trump to start telling the truth.
This particular vehicle was a donation (apparently due to an inflated military budget), so it was "free" in the sense that taxpayers paid for it years ago and for an entirely different purpose. Those sorts of vehicles are definitely not free to maintain, and take a guess who's going to foot the bill for that.
While slightly off-topic, if we have so much expensive surplus that we give shitloads of it to our police departments... do we really need billion dollar increases every year to the military budget?
Perhaps my understanding of economics and business is just really poor, and that's actually amazing business (besides for the arms manufactures, obviously).
While slightly off-topic, if we have so much expensive surplus that we give shitloads of it to our police departments... do we really need billion dollar increases every year to the military budget?Absolutely not. And it's no coincidence that education and healthcare (which disproportionately help the poor) are severely underfunded but the prison-industrial complex and the military-industrial complex (which disproportionately use and abuse the poor) are overfunded. It's all tied together.
Absolutely not. And it's no coincidence that education and healthcare (which disproportionately help the poor) are severely underfunded but the prison-industrial complex and the military-industrial complex (which disproportionately use and abuse the poor) are overfunded. It's all tied together.
Death by cop is just the tip of the iceberg poking out of the water.
One Confederate statue is now hanging from a light post along W. Hargett Street and another on the steps of the Wake County courthouse.
As heavy rains moved into downtown Raleigh, crowds began to disperse from the scene.
Police have since removed the statue from the light pole and the front of the Wake County courthouse.
In a message to the city of Raleigh Pittman said this, "It would be wise to the city of Raleigh, any other Confederate monuments you may have, if you do not want them destroyed, from the people, it would be wise for you to move them off of the grounds and put them in private property."I don't suppose there's a Runner-up Hall of Fame willing to take them in?
Protestors take down 2 confederate statues in Raleigh NC (https://abc11.com/society/demonstrators-hang-confederate-statue-in-downtown-raleigh/6256848/)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzMaHXQ4ADs
I don't suppose there's a Runner-up Hall of Fame willing to take them in?
Protestors take down 2 confederate statues in Raleigh NC (https://abc11.com/society/demonstrators-hang-confederate-statue-in-downtown-raleigh/6256848/)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzMaHXQ4ADs
I don't suppose there's a Runner-up Hall of Fame willing to take them in?
Because nothing says innocence like destroying all evidence.Or not recording in the first place (https://reason.com/2020/06/19/san-francisco-police-were-ordered-to-turn-off-body-cameras-in-raid-on-journalists-home/). Highly suspicious and imo, the standard reaction to this should be to assume foul play and free the officer to pursue a more private job elsewhere.
I saw this on Facebook recently. There's no doubting that Satan is an important part of Christian mythology, but if people started erecting statues of Satan, or wear/display the Sigil of Baphomet in church, it might send a slightly different message than, "Hey, I'm just preserving Christian traditions."
Two more confederate statues were taken down in Raleigh, voluntarily this time (https://www.wral.com/crews-remove-two-confederate-monuments-in-downtown-raleigh/19153399/)
People really get down on protestors taking matters into their own hands and not going through proper channels, but I've gotta say, they get results. Years of lobbying and complaints didn't work, but one night of direct action really changed the political landscape of Raleigh. The people in power got that message loud and clear.
Friday evening I drove through a protest by accident. We are so rural in my area, that it's hard to find a place that has enough people to create a commotion. Of course, it was just a peaceful get together with maybe 100 protestors and maybe 15 gawkers, and the whole tone of the event was benign. Everyone was smiling holding up BLM signs and singing. A couple of motorists honked on the way by. I didn't see any cops, not one.
But there was one agitator holding up a confederate flag walking around among the protestors. He was smiling, but with a taunting "take a swing at me" smile. The protestors ignored him, even when he would almost shove the flag right in their faces and try to make eye contact. It was perplexing. It was a Black Lives Matter theme, opposed by a guy with a confederate flag. What the hell does that mean? Black lives don't matter? The South will rise again? I'm from Appalachia and I married my sister?
At one time I thought the confederate flag was a cute novelty. When I was little, some clothing manufacturer manufactured North and South uniforms. The hats became a fad, although the pants and shirts didn't sell that well. So all the kids my age had to have a Civil War cap like the privates wore. The color wasn't that important, and we all appreciated each other's hats regardless of the color, so I thought that was the way it was with flags. They were just similar to walking around with a pennant supporting the Chicago Bears, but nothing beyond that.
Of course that's not what the confederate flags are about at all, or the statues. It's very much about race and Aryan supremacy. A while back, it was fashionable for the right wing to claim the the Civil War was not about race or slavery, but that it was an economic war. An interesting perspective? I don't think so. It was a false claim meant to reshape the debate from a bunch of bigots treating people like shit to an uprising of the disadvantaged deprived of a better life. The Civil war WAS about slavery. It was about the right to treat a minority like animals. It was about Aryan supremacy. The war ended slavery, but not ignorant bigotry. It only did half the job or less.
Put the flags and statues in a museums of horror, like the Holocaust Museums. But in front of public buildings?
Friday evening I drove through a protest by accident. We are so rural in my area, that it's hard to find a place that has enough people to create a commotion. Of course, it was just a peaceful get together with maybe 100 protestors and maybe 15 gawkers, and the whole tone of the event was benign. Everyone was smiling holding up BLM signs and singing. A couple of motorists honked on the way by. I didn't see any cops, not one.
But there was one agitator holding up a confederate flag walking around among the protestors. He was smiling, but with a taunting "take a swing at me" smile. The protestors ignored him, even when he would almost shove the flag right in their faces and try to make eye contact. It was perplexing. It was a Black Lives Matter theme, opposed by a guy with a confederate flag. What the hell does that mean? Black lives don't matter? The South will rise again? I'm from Appalachia and I married my sister?
At one time I thought the confederate flag was a cute novelty. When I was little, some clothing manufacturer manufactured North and South uniforms. The hats became a fad, although the pants and shirts didn't sell that well. So all the kids my age had to have a Civil War cap like the privates wore. The color wasn't that important, and we all appreciated each other's hats regardless of the color, so I thought that was the way it was with flags. They were just similar to walking around with a pennant supporting the Chicago Bears, but nothing beyond that.
Of course that's not what the confederate flags are about at all, or the statues. It's very much about race and Aryan supremacy. A while back, it was fashionable for the right wing to claim the the Civil War was not about race or slavery, but that it was an economic war. An interesting perspective? I don't think so. It was a false claim meant to reshape the debate from a bunch of bigots treating people like shit to an uprising of the disadvantaged deprived of a better life. The Civil war WAS about slavery. It was about the right to treat a minority like animals. It was about Aryan supremacy. The war ended slavery, but not ignorant bigotry. It only did half the job or less.
Put the flags and statues in a museums of horror, like the Holocaust Museums. But in front of public buildings?
Residing in Georgia and Florida I was surrounded by that 'southern pride' bullshit while growing up. Proud of being losing traitors, LOL. Even the Southern Baptist churches owned slaves. Well, it is pretty stupid to start a war when you have hardly any war materials industry. Pretty stupid to invade the North with barely any supplies and then press the attack when the enemy holds the good ground. Well I guess they felt they had to because of the naval blockade was slowly chocking them. The Union could have just hung all those traitors instead of letting them live to continue propagating their sick agenda.
Residing in Georgia and Florida I was surrounded by that 'southern pride' bullshit while growing up. Proud of being losing traitors, LOL. Even the Southern Baptist churches owned slaves. Well, it is pretty stupid to start a war when you have hardly any war materials industry. Pretty stupid to invade the North with barely any supplies and then press the attack when the enemy holds the good ground. Well I guess they felt they had to because of the naval blockade was slowly chocking them. The Union could have just hung all those traitors instead of letting them live to continue propagating their sick agenda.I did live (well, I existed) in Alabama for a lifetime (5 years). When I first attended school the first question I remembered being asked was if I was a rebel or a yankee. I had no idea what they were talking about. Told them I was from Oregon, so they informed me I was a Yankee. I also learned soon after arriving that there wasn't any civil war--it was The War Of Yankee Aggression!! I'm with you Cassia, I think the North was much too lenient with the Confederates. No Confederate soldier or member of the Confederacy should have been allowed to hold an office of any kind. The former slaves should have had all of the plantation lands divided up among them. And I could go on and on. They needed to be treated as the traitors they were.
I did live (well, I existed) in Alabama for a lifetime (5 years). When I first attended school the first question I remembered being asked was if I was a rebel or a yankee. I had no idea what they were talking about. Told them I was from Oregon, so they informed me I was a Yankee. I also learned soon after arriving that there wasn't any civil war--it was The War Of Yankee Aggression!! I'm with you Cassia, I think the North was much too lenient with the Confederates. No Confederate soldier or member of the Confederacy should have been allowed to hold an office of any kind. The former slaves should have had all of the plantation lands divided up among them. And I could go on and on. They needed to be treated as the traitors they were.A guy from Texas showed up on our Forest Service summer crew in Montana one year. He made a big fuss out of being from Texas, and had cultivated KKK philosophies that few in the clan would openly state in public. He used to try to get under people's skin by calling them Yankees, which is kind of silly in Montana, because the average Montanan would be about as insulted by that as if he had been called a baseball player.
The Great Antifa Hysteria, or as George Carlin said... "It's all bullshit, folks, and it's bad for ya."I still want to know when opposition to fascism became a bad thing...
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/17/opinion/antifa-protests.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/17/opinion/antifa-protests.html)
People are legitimately getting hurt, getting killed, over this fear mongering. We have right-wing terrorists using this "leftist" fear to carry out attacks on police, LGBT+ and African American communities and blaming it on the protesters (thankfully they tend to also be fucking idiots and get caught).
And yet we actually have people here who legitimately think this is the bigger threat, and that boggles my mind.
I still want to know when opposition to fascism became a bad thing...Or some conservative media calling backlash to antifa anti-antifa ...
I still want to know when opposition to fascism became a bad thing...
Or some conservative media calling backlash to antifa anti-antifa ...
"One Gen Z'er Dares To Speak Out: "I'm Done With Your Bull$hit!"" ... can they tell police reform from "Summer of Love"?That was a proto fascist tirade. She even begins with "All Lives Matter".
That was a proto fascist tirade. She even begins with "All Lives Matter".
All Whites are fascist ... we all have Nazi SS costumes in our closet. Do you really want us to "come out of the closet"? I would never have supported a dictatorship, or Republicans, until the Democrats and Blacks went feral.It's hard to ascertain what people believe when challenged, since, especially for proto fascist, will lie about their true convictions to cover their asses.
No, you can enslave the minds of all the Gen-Z people, just get them to pony up tens of thousands of dollars to go to Marxist education camps (colleges). It worked with the Millennials, X-Gen and Boomers.So you think people are "programmed" in colleges?
It's hard to ascertain what people believe when challenged, since, especially for proto fascist, will lie about their true convictions to cover their asses.
So you think people are "programmed" in colleges?
What if the students by using their own intelligence came down to the conclusion that Marxism is right and the workers should unite against Capitalism? Are their conclusions invalid automatically? Words have meanings.
People learn and grow as they age, sure.
I wish I had known that colleges were just marxist brainwashing before. I could've saved a lot of money and just watched marxist hollyweird movies instead or waited for the phone lines to be upgraded to 5G so I could download my marxism from the noosphere.
This is disturbing. Apparently trapping demonstrators, rather than dispersing them is a planned police tactic, not just some disorganized fuck up.Kettling (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kettling). Sometimes it's used to keep protesters away from whoever they're protesting against, sometimes it's used to get them all in one place for more efficient teargassing and pepperspraying.
https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/100000007174941/philadelphia-tear-gas-george-floyd-protests.html?campaign_id=9&emc=edit_nn_20200625&instance_id=19699&nl=the-morning®i_id=129705843&segment_id=31816&te=1&user_id=33a2a6e6868fd65c48b0f219d16ed7c2
Kettling (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kettling). Sometimes it's used to keep protesters away from whoever they're protesting against, sometimes it's used to get them all in one place for more efficient teargassing and pepperspraying.Thanks for Wiki explanation. I understand the purpose and intent. But it is still unnecessarily barbaric, and I will never believe for one minute that the police are not abusing it. In the video, people have been kettled, what happens afterwards is nothing short of torture. It's unacceptable no matter how much the police seem to be enjoying it.
Thanks for Wiki explanation. I understand the purpose and intent. But it is still unnecessarily barbaric, and I will never believe for one minute that the police are not abusing it. In the video, people have been kettled, what happens afterwards is nothing short of torture. It's unacceptable no matter how much the police seem to be enjoying it.I expect the police to be held to a higher standard of behavior than the general public. They're the ones who know the law better and are charged with defending it.
In the past, I haven't been bothered too much by police activity. I've just told myself to avoid protests and riots, and I let it go. But now I've seen enough of this sort of abuse to believe that this shit has got to stop, along with killing minorities for no reason. I realize police work is dangerous business, and I understand the frustration dealing with criminals day after day can mount up. I also understand the frustration of watching our civilization become a police state, and having no recourse to deal with the powers in charge. I still think police brutality can be eliminated if we get rid of the scum, and that includes scum at the top who rubber stamp torture as part of crowd control.
“We are just gonna go out and start slaughtering them fu—– ni—–. I can’t wait. God, I can’t wait.
These are the words of a now-former Wilmington Police Department officer Kevin Piner.
“Their conversation eventually turned to the topic of the protests against racism occurring across the nation. Piner tells Gilmore that the only thing this agency is concerned with ‘kneeling down with the black folks.’ Gilmore then said that he watched a video on social media about white people bowing down on their knees and ‘worshipping blacks,'” according to the summary.I wonder if the Blue Lives matter people would approve a cop plotting to kill another cop. I really hope not. I really hope everyone agrees that this was beyond the pale.
The conversation then turned to other police officers in the Wilmington Police Department — black officers.
The audio has Piner calling one of the officers ‘bad news’ and a ‘piece of shit.’
“Let’s see how his boys take care of him when shit gets rough, see if they don’t put a bullet in his head,” Piner said about a fellow officer.
According to the summary, “Moore began telling Piner about an arrest he had made at work the day before. During that conversation, Moore refers to the female as a ‘negro’ and a ‘ni—-‘ on multiple occasions.”These are the kinds of conversations cops have behind our backs. We pay them to protect us and they fantasize about having a race war and slaughtering people who just happen to have a different skin tone than them. This is sick. And the only reason we know about it was because it was both recorded on tape and released to the public. How often does this happen away from the cameras?
He also referred to a magistrate judge, who is also black, as a ‘fucking negro magistrate.’
“At one point, Moore states, ‘she needed a bullet in her head right then and move on. Let’s move the body out of the way and keep going.’ Piner responds, ‘That’s what I have been trying to tell you,'” according to the documents.
After more derogatory comments about the arrestee and the magistrate, the conversation takes an even bleaker turn, as the two officers discuss an upcoming ‘civil war.’
“Piner tells Moore later in the conversation that he feels a civil war is coming and he is ‘ready.’ Piner advised he is going to buy a new assault rifle in the next couple of weeks.
Per a police report obtained by the Valdosta Daily Times, a man, who was suspected of bothering customers outside a Walgreens, was wearing a brown hoodie and blue pants.(https://media.giphy.com/media/xT5LMEFde61YVHpJ8k/giphy.gif)
A patrolman approaches the man, who police identified as Smith. According to bodycam footage reviewed by USA TODAY, the man was wearing a red jacket and khaki pants.
A sergeant then arrives, immediately walking up to the man, grabbing him and restraining his arms in a “bear hug." He instructs Smith three times to put his hands behind his back “like he’s told.”The policeman tried to justify this by claiming that the man was in a blac..."bladed" stance. Also, he was arguing with the other police officer. (so what?)
After the third instruction, the sergeant body slams Smith. He starts wailing in pain, exclaiming that the sergeant broke his wrist.
Smith was later hospitalized at South Georgia Medical Center, per the lawsuit, where he was diagnosed with “distal radial and ulnar fractures” and his arm was put in a sling before being released with pain medication.
As I've posted earlier, white supremacists have infiltrated the police force.
Slowly scrap the entire police force and do psych evals of everyone entering the police force again.
As I've posted earlier, white supremacists have infiltrated the police force.
Slowly scrap the entire police force and do psych evals of everyone entering the police force again.
Ancient news. The real scandal is the penetration of county sheriff offices by gun nuts. It was local sheriffs from 80s onward who gave permission for some people to keep full automatic weapons. I have known two gun nuts. They are ... nuts! One or more of them may post here.2nd Amendment supporters aren't the problem, I would argue that's just a point repubs have co-opted.
2nd Amendment supporters aren't the problem, I would argue that's just a point repubs have co-opted.
Oh, I don't know........I think it is a matter of quality and not quantity. I don't think a person needs to become crusader rabbit, but to become aware of how we are acting when around others. Actually, I think the biggest problem people of color/minorities have is built into the systems of the govt. Changing those will be a long process; one I hope will actually come to pass.
I confess I'm not very good at being antiracist. My primary strategy for dealing with people I don't care for, for whatever reason, is to avoid them. I speak up at work and with family because they are difficult to avoid, in fact a had a long conversation yesterday with my younger brother regarding the racial protests. With acquaintances or strangers, I avoid interaction.
Those cops in NC who were talking about the coming race war and couldn't wait to start the slaughter all said they're not racist...
Ken Burns, who might know a thing or two about American history, believes that the statues represent mythology... not history.In this case, Ken Burns is wrong.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W08bTFhuwKs
Miami officer kneels on pregnant woman's neck, tasers her multiple times in the stomach (knowing full well what he is doing), leading to her miscarrying. The pro-life crowd seems oddly quiet. Charged with battery and not murder though...Much of the pro-life crowd is also pro-death penalty. Basically, life is sacred only up until you're born, then fuck you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6stgWhFZSqQ
Much of the pro-life crowd is also pro-death penalty. Basically, life is sacred only up until you're born, then fuck you.
The fears stoked by the warnings appear to have set the stage for the police’s escalating, violent response to the protests, including the widespread use of tear gas, percussion grenades, and rubber bullets, sometimes fired at close range.
they also suggest a tendency to categorize standard protest behavior as a threat to police.
Unjustified fear has long played into abuse in policing. “Since they know that they are hated, they are always afraid,” James Baldwin wrote of the police in The Nation in 1966. “One cannot possibly arrive at a more surefire formula for cruelty.” According to Dan O’Flaherty and Rajiv Sethi’s book “Shadows of Doubt: Stereotypes, Crime, and the Pursuit of Justice,” undue security service fears based on errant information have historically contributed to police killing and injuring civilians.Fear leads to hate, hate leads to violence.
Ken Burns, who might know a thing or two about American history, believes that the statues represent mythology... not history.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W08bTFhuwKs
Much of the pro-life crowd is also pro-death penalty. Basically, life is sacred only up until you're born, then fuck you.
"Modern slavery earns criminal networks an estimated $150 billion a year, just slightly less than drug smuggling and weapons trafficking..." ... funny how Americans talk about past human trafficking but not about current human trafficking ...
White couple aims guns at peaceful protestors (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/st-louis-couple-aims-guns-protesters-mayors-home-defund-police/)
I can't believe it's not domestic terrorism.
White couple aims guns at peaceful protestors (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/st-louis-couple-aims-guns-protesters-mayors-home-defund-police/)
I can't believe it's not domestic terrorism.
I've seen a trend on Facebook recently. The question of "should the KKK be classified as a terrorist group" comes up, and inevitably, someone in the comments says, "Only if Anti-Fa are also classified as terrorists!" Dude, why are you defending the KKK? Is it because you realize you're on the same side? If not, what do you have to gain by protecting them?
Been seeing a sudden resurgence of "All Lives Matter" by fuckheads who don't understand what context is.
White couple aims guns at peaceful protestors (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/st-louis-couple-aims-guns-protesters-mayors-home-defund-police/)
I can't believe it's not domestic terrorism.
Hey the protesters were on private property threatening people. Who wouldn't take out a gun?
Hey the protesters were on private property threatening people. Who wouldn't take out a gun?
The crowd was passing through the neighbourhood on the way to the governor's house, and they walked out with their guns pointed at the protesters (which is brandishing a weapon [different from open carry] and generally illegal [unless it's against someone the government doesn't like]).
It also came after the Mayor publicly read the names of protesters and their home addresses, putting them at both job security and home security risks.
Fucking snowflake victim-card holders is all these two idiots were.
If the violent mob, had stayed in the street, no problemo. It is breaking down the gate that crossed the line.
Update: The two idiots who decided to pull guns on peaceful protesters are now being investigated for... wait for it... unlawfully brandishing a weapon!But someone on the internet said it was okay, so clearly the authorities are in the wrong!
(https://womenscenteratumbc.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/xkcd-devils-advocate.jpg?w=580)
It wasn't their gate, it was into the residential zone. They had to bypass that gate to get to the mayor, who fired the first shots and as a civil servant should not be free to isolate herself from her constituents.
And I am just going to assume now that when you and Munich say violent mob, you just mean black people, since it wasn't a violent mob.
Update: The two idiots who decided to pull guns on peaceful protesters are now being investigated for... wait for it... unlawfully brandishing a weapon! Play stupid games, win stupid prizes (and apparently the approval of the stupid).
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/505241-st-louis-circuit-attorney-investigating-couple-that-pointed-guns-at
Funny enough, I don't see all the "responsible gun owners" rushing out of the woodworks to condemn them for misuse of a firearm.
If a mob was marching through my yard, throwing things at my house and screaming death threats I wouldn't shoot them. I don't believe killing someone is the appropriate response to property destruction, theft or verbal threats. Everyone has the right to defend themselves but I have different criteria then many people when it comes to when lethal force is warranted. I'm as capable as anyone else of panicking and reacting with my lizard brain, which is why I don't own a gun.
If this couple was smart and actually concerned about their safety or their property they would have sat in lawn chairs, clapped and cheered as the protesters went by, recorded the protesters on video, and reported any threats or damage to the police and their insurance company. They said they actually support #BLM. They responded with their lizard brains and now are internet memes and possibly facing legal charges.
Because the mob consists of black people in a movement of BLM protests, your ethic working brain is like "How dare these "white" people take their guns out in front of these poor "peaceful" protesters." If the mob were white people or white KKK members against other white people you'd be on the couples side.
Maybe because there is a difference between a crowd of peaceful protesters marching on the Mayor's estate because she put people at risk... and the fucking KKK.
Lets say for a minute you have a point. Let's also say that mob mentality is colorless. Because the mob consists of black people in a movement of BLM protests, your ethic working brain is like "How dare these "white" people take their guns out in front of these poor "peaceful" protesters." If the mob were white people or white KKK members against other white people you'd be on the couples side.If the "mob" were predominately white people, you absolutely would be singing a different story. Don't dare accuse me of what you're guilty of.
Hypocrisy and double standards.
If the "mob" were predominately white people, you absolutely would be singing a different story. Don't dare accuse me of what you're guilty of.
If the "mob" were predominately white people, you absolutely would be singing a different story. Don't dare accuse me of what you're guilty of.
"tunnel vision"Hey, genius. I said it was pretty messed up to draw weapons on peaceful protestors just walking down the road. And apparently the authorities got the same impression because they're getting charged. And you know what, if it was a black couple drawing on a KKK march, I would say that's fucked up, too. My values don't change because of race. My impression of the situation doesn't change because of race. But yours does. That racist, hypocritical crap is all you, not me. Hell, you even tried this crap with Shiranu and it didn't work there, either. You played that card not because it fits, but because it's your only card.
"tunnel vision"Yes, that is what you seem to have when it comes to non-whites in this thread.
Hey, genius. I said it was pretty messed up to draw weapons on peaceful protestors just walking down the road. And apparently the authorities got the same impression because they're getting charged. And you know what, if it was a black couple drawing on a KKK march, I would say that's fucked up, too. My values don't change because of race. My impression of the situation doesn't change because of race. But yours does. That racist, hypocritical crap is all you, not me. Hell, you even tried this crap with Shiranu and it didn't work there, either. You played that card not because it fits, but because it's your only card.
So kindly spare me the stupid projectiony accusations.
Stop digging your hole. You chose the wrong side from the very beginning and spend all your time trying to justify it and twist what other people are saying to you rather than figuring out the obvious. Almost everyone else is far ahead of you and to be honest, there's absolutely zero reason for me to indulge your dumb rhetorical games any longer.
WallAre you speaking of trump's wall?? Are you a fan???
Yet your calling me racist because I said you have "tunnel vision". Also when Shiranu baits me and denies things, I stop arguing to calm myself and because I'm talking to a wall. I find it funny whenever an argument comes up many of you are radical left biased crazy and not atleast skeptical at all of any source. Makes me wonder if you value logic and reason over political propaganda that controls your brain.Mate, a couple years ago you were talking about how you wanted to fuck your cousins. You don't get to accuse other people of being crazy.
Why has the statues and monuments of the Civil War 'heroes' been erected to begin with and why have they been allowed to stay????Timeline of Confederate statues (https://i2.cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/170816135714-gfx-monuments-over-time-splc.jpg)
Something seems to get lost when talking about the Confederacy. Robert E. Lee, AP Hill, Stonewall Jackson (and all the other officer 'hero's) all the way down to the lowest ranking private--all, every single one of them, were NOT Americans. They elected to leave the United States of America. Let me repeat--they were NOT US citizens. All of them were traitors to the United States of America. Their Just Cause turned out to be the Lost Cause. Yet we treat them as hero's??!! Why? One reason is that the history of politics in the USA was/is controlled by rich white men. As has been seen, rich white men find more kinship with other rich white men, even of the Confederacy--even traitors. Why has the statues and monuments of the Civil War 'heroes' been erected to begin with and why have they been allowed to stay????You know us Southern gals just love 'Colonel Angus'. When he comes through my parts I hope he lingers a good while.
Something seems to get lost when talking about the Confederacy. Robert E. Lee, AP Hill, Stonewall Jackson (and all the other officer 'hero's) all the way down to the lowest ranking private--all, every single one of them, were NOT Americans. They elected to leave the United States of America. Let me repeat--they were NOT US citizens. All of them were traitors to the United States of America. Their Just Cause turned out to be the Lost Cause. Yet we treat them as hero's??!! Why? One reason is that the history of politics in the USA was/is controlled by rich white men. As has been seen, rich white men find more kinship with other rich white men, even of the Confederacy--even traitors. Why has the statues and monuments of the Civil War 'heroes' been erected to begin with and why have they been allowed to stay????
Timeline of Confederate statues (https://i2.cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/170816135714-gfx-monuments-over-time-splc.jpg)
Decades after the Confederacy collapsed and purely coincidentally, it peaked right as the NAACP was founded. And another, much smaller peak during the Civil Rights Era.
It's almost as if there was something else going on besides honoring the war dead.
Timeline of Confederate statues (https://i2.cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/170816135714-gfx-monuments-over-time-splc.jpg)Thanks for the chart--I had not seen that before. The KKK began it second coming in the mid teens--a few years later there was a huge influx of Confederate statues. Could it be that these were reminders to our 'colored' populace to remain in their place?
Decades after the Confederacy collapsed and purely coincidentally, it peaked right as the NAACP was founded. And another, much smaller peak during the Civil Rights Era.
It's almost as if there was something else going on besides honoring the war dead.
Mate, a couple years ago you were talking about how you wanted to fuck your cousins. You don't get to accuse other people of being crazy.Now hold on there....wanting to fuck your cousin and actually fuckin your cousin is two different things. I know.
karen, is that you?
One video clip showed a leader of the demonstrators, who was not identified, shouting into a loudspeaker in a challenge to white supremacists who historically have used Stone Mountain as a rallying spot of their own.A bit more militant than I would prefer, but at least they were peaceful and had the decency to not actually point their guns at people, evidently showing more restraint than both the PD and white supremacists known to stalk these sorts of protests.
“I don’t see no white militia,” he declared. “We’re here. Where ... you at? We’re in your house. Let’s go.”
I don't support just any yahoo walking around with firearms. Repeal the Second Amendment. It's antiquated and is blocking any kind of sensible gun legislation.
A spate of shootings throughout the US left more than 150 people wounded and nearly two-dozen dead so far this weekend, including 67 gunshot victims in Chicago over a blood-splattered weekend, according to reports.
Police said 13 people were killed in separate shootings in the Second City, including a 7-year-old girl who was at a Fourth of July party in the city’s Austin neighborhood and a 14-year-old boy, the Chicago Sun-Times reported Sunday.
And while I'm thinking about it, a word of advice for anyone considering marking a special occasion with celebratory gunfire: aim it at your feet before pulling the trigger.
I don't support just any yahoo walking around with firearms. Repeal the Second Amendment. It's antiquated and is blocking any kind of sensible gun legislation.At the very least, any violent offense, whether or not a gun was involved, should carry a lifetime ban from owning firearms. Especially domestic violence and child abuse.
Robert Fuller's death was initially ruled a suicide, but that conclusion outraged his family, who insisted that he would not take his own life. Locals, too, were skeptical, citing the area's troubled racial history. Thousands of people turned out in Palmdale in the days after Fuller's death to demand an independent investigation by California's attorney general into what many believed was a lynching.The timing was also a bit strange; Fuller had been at a BLM protest just a day before his death.
On Thursday, authorities said they had pored over the evidence and determined that Fuller's death was consistent with suicide and that a number of factors had led them to rule out other possibilities.I didn't know all that. Definitely makes suicide the more likely scenario here.
Fuller had a history of mental illness, and there were prior reports of suicidal ideation and that he had disclosed "a plan to kill himself" prior to his death, sheriff's Commander Chris Marks said at a news conference.
Every highway in Houston is in a constant state of construction... They'll close down half the lines, do five minutes of work, and leave up the construction zone signs and traffic cones for years. I abhor ever having to leave the house, because traffic ranges from bad to sitting in bumper-to-bumper traffic for an hour to make a single left turn. There's no public transportation, unless you live downtown, and everything is a minimum of 30 minutes away.
True that. Here near Austin, it was one thing when the traffic mostly just backed up into the city... but nowadays with construction and the importation of Californians and New Yorkers on a bad day that traffic backs up sometimes as far as a little bit past Kyle, 24 minutes away. I love Houston from the few times I've been there, but even compared to Austin it's traffic is fucking horrendous at times.
According to a 59-count criminal complaint, the three were charged with conspiracy, filing false reports, and preparing fraudulent documents for court.And btw, 21 additional officers are still under investigation.
"BLM Supporters Ambush, Murder Young White Mother For Saying 'All Lives Matter'" ... of course they do. Arrest and execute without trial, any militants.
"BLUE LIVES MATTER PROTESTS ERUPT ACROSS US AS CONSERVATIVES START SPEAKING OUT" ... silent majority who aren't criminals
Y'all - kill the Republicans
Them - killl the Democrats
Me - selling beer and hotdogs ;-)
This story strikes me as a bit less "black and white" than the headline suggests. The woman and "a group of friends", who all happen to be armed, were walking around Indianapolis Canal Walk, where two people were murdered the week before in an armed robbery, at around 3 a.m. A "group of strangers" confronted the woman's group. Guns were drawn and an argument ensued in which someone in the suspect group shouted 'Black Lives Matter,' to which the woman or someone in her group replied "All Lives Matter."
The groups 'then fist bumped and walked away from each other,' but then her boyfriend says they were ambushed from a nearby bridge and ran away. Boyfriend admits he returned fire but says he didn't hit anyone.
This sounds more like a gang confrontation then the murder of a woman who may or may not have said "All Lives Matter." I'm not disparaging any of the people involved but the political spin being put on this incident.
You don't remember the 60s, do you ;-) Back then, it was revolutionary to unbutton the top button of your dress shirt, to wear bell bottoms ;-)
I don't envy teachers now. Particularly public school ones. My Ex teaches at a private school ... the children wouldn't dare misbehave. As I understand it, they don't teach Civics anymore (too many old hippies teaching now). We had Civics in 9th grade. Social studies/American history in later years. I don't think any of that is taught in public schools now. They basically have defaulted on their reason for operating. Close them, put all the kids in home school or private school. Don't arrest parents who spank their brats.
Based on my daughter's Millennial education, they didn't get much education (other than English grammar). She learned arithmetic when we gave her a checking account. Babysitting for irresponsible Boomer parents.
Body-worn camera footage from former Minneapolis police officer Thomas Lane showed that George Floyd was given no explanation for why he was being questioned before Lane pointed a gun and swore at him, touched him multiple times and forced him out of his vehicle into the street.
The Star Tribune viewed Lane’s and Kueng’s videos, which showed that neither officer told Floyd nor his two passengers why they were being investigated that night until several minutes after the encounter began and after Floyd had already been handcuffed.
Lane’s video showed that medics at the scene did not appear alarmed or rushed in assisting Floyd after taking his pulse, and that about three minutes passed before anyone began performing cardiopulmonary resuscitation on Floyd, who had been unresponsive for several minutes by then.
A former police officer in New Mexico was charged Thursday with second-degree murder after authorities said he killed a Latino detainee he had placed in a chokehold.
Police say Smelser applied the chokehold after a foot chase in February after Valenzuela fled during a traffic stop.
After the chase, Smelser can be heard on police video saying, "I'm going to (expletive) choke you out, bro."
Smelser's attorney, Amy L. Orlando, called the new charge sad and suggested it was a political move meant to grab headlines.Presumably, the lawyer also added that he stabbed a guy on the way to his client and that's okay unless crybaby liberals decide to make it all political.
"Officer Smelser used a technique that was sanctioned by the department. He was trained in the technique. And of a sudden it's banned after and he's a criminal," Orlando told The Associated Press.
Honestly, what do we make of the police after all of this?
Let’s put aside “ACAB” and “not all cops” for a second, and just admit objectively, yes, not all cops are bad. The reason my piece of shit father was finally removed from the home was because the cops intervened (and arrested him for interrupting my call to 911, that’s a misdemeanor in New York...wish I was allowed to see that). Every single interaction I’ve had with the police has been mostly positive thus far, I have yet to be racially profiled or stopped for being Black. The only things I’ve been disappointed by in my personal life have been seeing how UPD, and police in general, let down sexual assault/rape victims and survivors. However, there are clear problems with the way policing is done and how poor actions by cops are handled by their departments and superiors. Since George Floyd’s death, they’ve assaulted elderly people, pregnant women, and children in extreme ways, shot out eyes or made people lose their vision in one way or another, have been proven to make peaceful protests turn violent, and violated protester’s constitutional rights with the way they’re arresting them. It doesn’t matter if not all cops are doing this, enough are, they’re not getting held accountable, and it’s been unsettling to watch.
I don’t know think defunding the police is the answer (people can’t even agree on what that means and would entail, so yeah), but there definitely needs to be great reform or something. I think a lot of people have lost a lot of trust and hope in police due to what George’s death has opened the door to.
However, there are clear problems with the way policing is done and how poor actions by cops are handled by their departments and superiors. Since George Floyd’s death, they’ve assaulted elderly people, pregnant women, and children in extreme ways, shot out eyes or made people lose their vision in one way or another, have been proven to make peaceful protests turn violent, and violated protester’s constitutional rights with the way they’re arresting them. It doesn’t matter if not all cops are doing this, enough are, they’re not getting held accountable, and it’s been unsettling to watch.It's distressingly difficult to find those demands for reform, especially phrased in concrete policy terms.
I don’t know think defunding the police is the answer (people can’t even agree on what that means and would entail, so yeah), but there definitely needs to be great reform or something. I think a lot of people have lost a lot of trust and hope in police due to what George’s death has opened the door to.
I don’t know think defunding the police is the answer (people can’t even agree on what that means and would entail, so yeah), but there definitely needs to be great reform or something. I think a lot of people have lost a lot of trust and hope in police due to what George’s death has opened the door to.Defunding the police is a bit misleading - they're not talking about completely eliminating the police department and letting criminals run wild - from what I've heard, it's mostly just reallocating funds more towards social programs and less towards military hardware. Stuff like sending a social worker to deal with a person having a mental health crisis rather than a guy with a gun.
The protests in Portland are getting intense. Under Trump's direction, federal agents dressed in fatigues have been patrolling the city in unmarked vans, using "snatch and grab" tactics of grabbing and detaining protesters, often with no indication of whether they’ve been charged with any crime.As I see it, this is trump testing his ability to use the US military/police as a tool against us citizens, learning which units and commanders will do his bidding.
Protesters question federal law enforcement, ‘snatch-and-grab’ tactics in Portland (https://www.kptv.com/news/protesters-question-federal-law-enforcement-snatch-and-grab-tactics-in-portland/article_413b100c-c7c7-11ea-9ec9-5f0ac0049c28.html)
Some protesters are questioning the tactics being used and say some are being arrested by federal police even when they claim things are peaceful and nothing is going on.
Video was posted to Twitter on Wednesday night with a description that said federal officers rushed up and arrested someone for no reason. That person is seen in the video being taken to an unmarked van. Protesters claim they are being kidnapped.
Oregon Sen. Jeff Merkley shared the video on Twitter, saying that “authoritarian governments, not democratic republics, send unmarked authorities after protesters. These Trump/Barr tactics designed to eliminate any accountability are absolutely unacceptable in America, and must end.” ...
This is an interesting article describing the situation in Portland: 50 Nights of Unrest in Portland (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/17/opinion/portland-protests-federal-agents.html)
The protests in Portland are getting intense. Under Trump's direction, federal agents dressed in fatigues have been patrolling the city in unmarked vans, using "snatch and grab" tactics of grabbing and detaining protesters, often with no indication of whether they’ve been charged with any crime.Secret police disappearing citizens. This is exactly the sort of jackboot tactics that conservatives claim they dislike. Yet when stuff like this happens, do they condemn it?
Secret police disappearing citizens. This is exactly the sort of jackboot tactics that conservatives claim they dislike. Yet when stuff like this happens, do they condemn it?
Secret police disappearing citizens. This is exactly the sort of jackboot tactics that conservatives claim they dislike. Yet when stuff like this happens, do they condemn it?
It's only bad when the other guys do it.
We are officially now in the Banana Republic phase. If the orange monster gets his way, we will transcend that phase into the North Korean phase.
Bootlickers waving blue flags in my town today.
I find it interesting how some places are still going strong, if not even stronger, with the protests like Portland. Then places like where I live has called it a day and is “back to normal”.
It’s just interesting in general to see who is still addressing this and who has stopped. I definitely thinks part of this speaks to the need to address other issues or focus on keeping themselves safe from COVID-19, which is just continuing to get worse...but also the way this was a trend or something edgy to jump on to stick it to your racist Trumpster uncle and show how woke you are.
I’m a realist but I’m also a cynic lol.
Okay this admittedly made me LOL 💀
Speaking of Summer of Love and Seattle, did anyone already touch on the two White non-binary protesters on that highway by the Black driver? And how one of them died very shortly afterwards and the driver is now charged with vehicular murder? If no one knows what I’m talking about, I can find a link or news article. I’m still waiting for info regarding whether he did it intentionally or not.
We are all villains (aka from the French word for peasant). Are you French royalty?Why not just use hieroglyphics? Same difference.
Why not just use hieroglyphics? Same difference.Baruch's posts are not to be tossed aside lightly, but to be hurled with great force.
Baruch's posts are not to be tossed aside lightly, but to be hurled with great force.
;-)
I stole that from Dorothy Parker.
She put her finger down your throat?I came across a quote Sunday morning, I'd never heard it before, but then heard it that afternoon on Says You, a show on NPR. I thought you might enjoy it.
Someone shot into a crowd of protestors here in Austin, killing 1.Gee, I wonder who that 'someone' comes from. The white nationalists/white supremacists are getting a free ride right now. They are heavily armed and are embolden by the orange monster's words and deeds. War has been declared on liberals, but not on the Alt-right.
Someone shot into a crowd of protestors here in Austin, killing 1.
How many of these people are fueled by alcohol, MJ and hard drugs?
Would you like to make a research on the political tendencies and the culture of the majority of the people who got drunk/high and shot; wounded or killed someone in the United States of America?
T'would be a sad tale, full of agony and woe. Sober people are scoundrels enough. ...
T'would be a sad tale mainly full of republicans and any kind of right wingers in a country with 'more guns than people'.
Not enough guns, not enough blood, not enough common sense opposition to "more" government.
Really? Baruch, one thing you can't get. When somebody pulls the 'trigger' over there the bullet goes out from here. Economically speaking.
Umbrella Guy (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/umbrella-man-white-supremacist-suspect-minneapolis-police-protests/) (a guy who showed up to a peaceful demonstration, casually smashed some windows, and left - thereby implicating the peaceful protestors as a rowdy gang of looters) turns out to be a white supremacist.
I am Jack's complete lack of surprise.
His whole operation was designed to incite crime and to portray the protestors as a threat to the community, thereby creating/exacerbating unrest. In reality, he was that threat - he was the one committing both the criminal property damage and the incitement. The judge should throw the book at him.
Welcome to the Global Village, where we are all idiots ;-(If it takes one to know one, what does it take to know them all?
Umbrella Guy (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/umbrella-man-white-supremacist-suspect-minneapolis-police-protests/) (a guy who showed up to a peaceful demonstration, casually smashed some windows, and left - thereby implicating the peaceful protestors as a rowdy gang of looters) turns out to be a white supremacist.Nay, the judge should throw the whole library at him!
I am Jack's complete lack of surprise.
His whole operation was designed to incite crime and to portray the protestors as a threat to the community, thereby creating/exacerbating unrest. In reality, he was that threat - he was the one committing both the criminal property damage and the incitement. The judge should throw the book at him.
If it takes one to know one, what does it take to know them all?
We have the same very same bullshit and this goes for everywhere but yeah I guess the US is a bit more colourful in this context because American propaganda has claims like freedom, equality...I learned this in college, and not in a class--anyway, George Washington was a very honest guy, even as a kid. He chopped down a cherry tree in his yard, and when his dad asked if he had done that, he owned up to it and said he was to blame. Except that was not the truth. It was a story made up by a minister named Weems. He wanted to write a school book extolling good citizenship and good character; honesty was one of the good traits. So, we have a christian writing a book about good character traits, who created a fiction about somebody not being truthful. I guess the irony escaped him; seems to go with the religion. Anyway, I researched it, and sure enough, that story was not reported by anybody until Weems wrote about it. And so it goes in Merican history.
I learned this in college, and not in a class--anyway, George Washington was a very honest guy, even as a kid. He chopped down a cherry tree in his yard, and when his dad asked if he had done that, he owned up to it and said he was to blame. Except that was not the truth. It was a story made up by a minister named Weems. He wanted to write a school book extolling good citizenship and good character; honesty was one of the good traits. So, we have a christian writing a book about good character traits, who created a fiction about somebody not being truthful. I guess the irony escaped him; seems to go with the religion. Anyway, I researched it, and sure enough, that story was not reported by anybody until Weems wrote about it. And so it goes in Merican history.
But y'all do believe in Marxist or Maoist history, am I right?
Without Ataturk, Turkey would be just a sandwich ;-p You think you can live next to the Soviet Union with just Gandhi slogans?
Oh yes...you are in a Marxist conspiracy, Baruch. We have been doing everything in our power to fuck you up with your what-aboutist-moronic life vision and what do you know, we've succeeded! Esp. we, women....oh gawd, you wouldn't believe the ways we have fucked up with you from the beginning, man. Mind, testicals... After all that is what/why we are 'made' for...we are 'designed' for it. Man, I mean, think about it, WE HAVE TITS! Can ya believe it? If it was not enough, we also have countless other feminine traits, and oh gawd, this one is very difficult to type for me...VAGINA! We have vaginas! Oh but then we have so many other stuff to fuck you up, come on can you even guess?! I'm sure you know the basics, you seems like an old bro who swallowed 'the red pill', you fucking moron.
With Ataturk, Turkey has become a sandwich long time ago now. Maybe you shouldn't spaculate about the SU back then as you would as the US right now? Because a random 20 year old kid sounds better informed than you.
Baruch, get the fuck out of my face.Shoe, why do you keep going back to the same old well (Baruch) and expect the water to taste different??? He has become the king of prattle and babble. He does not make sense because he has become at rock bottom, a bitter, old man. He has become disillusioned with politics, especially Democrats, his ex, his daughter, his society, his life. Even his G-d has made him bitter. All he does is foam at the mouth and print shit. That's his life--ignore his posts, for they really do not make any sense whatsoever. If you like bitter--and some people do--keep responding to his nonsense.
Hi. This is interesting attempt, as a thread I mean.
No, I don't care about Armenians. I just would like to see someone else than you posting here.Don't feed the zoo creatures................
No, I don't care about Armenians. I just would like to see someone else than you posting here.
You won't make it as a Californian SJW, they have Armenians there.
Oh I'm devastated...
yeah. People what things to change for the better there. These violent protests are not helping that however, its just making things worse.What the fuck do you know about the racial issues in the U.S.?
A 7th grade kid had the cops called on him for bringing a "facsimile of a firearm to school." Just a few problems:
1. It wasn't at school. It was a virtual class. The kid was in his own home.
2. The "gun" looked like this:
(https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost.s3.amazonaws.com/public/VYXTNSAERZGLRISRECY7OGNGWQ.jpeg&w=916)
3. The kid had ADHD (the teacher knew this), and was playing with the Nerf gun because he was bored, not because he was threatening to shoot the teacher or his classmates. Obviously.
The cops arrived at the boy's home, traumatizing him. And now he has a criminal record. I'll give you one guess what color the kid was.
One more thing to keep in mind: Tamir Rice was the same age when police responded to a call about a boy with a gun, and was shot to death immediately upon their arrival, without warning. Calling the police on a black kid for having a toy gun is irresponsible and dangerous, and I hope the school gets sued for it.
I am a Police Officer. All i can say to this is if we got the call, we would have to respond. Not saying anything at all would come from it, but its a call for service. We are under the liability of not responding and something happens...as well if something did happen.
This is one the school for calling. I guarantee the cops responding thought it was stupid, but they did have to respond.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qt2JsCMG7mgA Wiki quote:
Never been a fan of police ... but this is bad.
I am a Police Officer. All i can say to this is if we got the call, we would have to respond. Not saying anything at all would come from it, but its a call for service. We are under the liability of not responding and something happens...as well if something did happen.
This is one the school for calling. I guarantee the cops responding thought it was stupid, but they did have to respond.
Anti-Yankee. But Burn Loot Murder destroys Yankee statues too. Soviet Union rules!Incorrect, you Canadian. Riots shaped this country in the past and it continues to prove to be one of the most effective way to improve The States. What do you think the Boston Tea Party was? a tasting, get-together?
We have no means to stop the riots ...
You have no idea what does that mean.
What? LOL You can't be that stupid, can you?Yes, yes, he can be--and is. But you are feeding the zoo creature again.................
What? LOL You can't be that stupid, can you?
I say let the country burn to the ground until shit is sorted and things are reformed. It's basic human rights we're asking for. Not locking white people in a cage.
This isn't Paris, 1788, you LARPers! There are people who would give their right nut to test this out.
The like in Baruch's post made me curious, if Munch got in to check about any possible conversation on the Britain's current situation. there is a talk of famine...etc. Dark scenarios.
Hang in there, Munch. All of you Brits. Be safe. Everywhere is fucked up, it is just worse when you are an island.