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Title: Who believes in God anymore?
Post by: Gregory on April 02, 2020, 09:21:54 PM
Who believes in God anymore? Certainly, not me. Who believes in damnation? Preachers and their punters. Who needs them?
Title: Re: Who believes in God anymore?
Post by: Baruch on April 02, 2020, 09:38:09 PM
Quote from: Gregory on April 02, 2020, 09:21:54 PM
Who believes in God anymore? Certainly, not me. Who believes in damnation? Preachers and their punters. Who needs them?

What is "belief"?

What is "G-d" vs "God" vs "god"?

I don't see anyone as "enemy" (aside for politics, but that is like sport team fans).
Title: Re: Who believes in God anymore?
Post by: Gregory on April 02, 2020, 10:26:23 PM
As Charles Bukowski said, I wish to believe but belief is a graveyard.
Title: Re: Who believes in God anymore?
Post by: Gregory on April 03, 2020, 01:40:36 AM
Religion is like a ghetto, impoverished.
Title: Re: Who believes in God anymore?
Post by: Sal1981 on April 03, 2020, 03:12:07 AM
Lots of people say they believe in god(s). I reckon they do so out of habit, more than conviction.
Title: Re: Who believes in God anymore?
Post by: Baruch on April 03, 2020, 07:36:05 AM
Quote from: Gregory on April 02, 2020, 10:26:23 PM
As Charles Bukowski said, I wish to believe but belief is a graveyard.

The graveyard is the proper destiny of everyone.
Title: Re: Who believes in God anymore?
Post by: Baruch on April 03, 2020, 07:37:24 AM
Quote from: Gregory on April 03, 2020, 01:40:36 AM
Religion is like a ghetto, impoverished.

Ghetto … where Gentiles put Jews and Whites put Blacks.
Title: Re: Who believes in God anymore?
Post by: Gregory on April 05, 2020, 11:04:44 PM
I didn't put them there.
Title: Re: Who believes in God anymore?
Post by: Baruch on April 06, 2020, 12:21:48 AM
Quote from: Gregory on April 05, 2020, 11:04:44 PM
I didn't put them there.

All humans are collectively guilty, not necessarily individually guilty.  That is the SJW way.
Title: Re: Who believes in God anymore?
Post by: Gregory on April 06, 2020, 01:29:50 AM
Quote from: Baruch on April 06, 2020, 12:21:48 AM
All humans are collectively guilty, not necessarily individually guilty.  That is the SJW way.
Thus, the religious are anti-intellectual, can I help that?
Title: Re: Who believes in God anymore?
Post by: Baruch on April 06, 2020, 11:57:17 AM
Quote from: Gregory on April 06, 2020, 01:29:50 AM
Thus, the religious are anti-intellectual, can I help that?

Theologians beg to differ.  But like other rationalists, they are FOS.
Title: Re: Who believes in God anymore?
Post by: Jagella on April 18, 2020, 12:03:21 PM
Quote from: Gregory on April 02, 2020, 09:21:54 PM
Who believes in God anymore? Certainly, not me. Who believes in damnation? Preachers and their punters. Who needs them?

Presumably billions of people believe in the Judeo-Christian god although they disagree a lot about what that god is like. Belief in damnation is also very popular. As for preachers, they have created a need for their "services." Many people think they need the clergy to "help them with their spiritual needs." Although religious belief is on the decline in developed countries, it is still very popular.
Title: Re: Who believes in God anymore?
Post by: Baruch on April 18, 2020, 12:14:53 PM
Quote from: Jagella on April 18, 2020, 12:03:21 PM
Presumably billions of people believe in the Judeo-Christian god although they disagree a lot about what that god is like. Belief in damnation is also very popular. As for preachers, they have created a need for their "services." Many people think they need the clergy to "help them with their spiritual needs." Although religious belief is on the decline in developed countries, it is still very popular.

Damnation is in the Gilgamesh Epic and the Egyptian Book of the Dead.  Probably part of default human psychology.