Islam is a religion of peace - a conqueror's peace.
All religions are the same - they all want peace on their terms.
Quote from: Gregory on March 18, 2020, 01:12:33 AM
Islam is a religion of peace - a conqueror's peace.
All religions are the same - they all want peace on their terms.
Same as any other gang. What is your gang sign?
Quote from: Gregory on March 18, 2020, 01:12:33 AM
Islam is a religion of peace - a conqueror's peace.
This is the point where someone steps in and defends Islam. I'm actually surprised that no one has.
Quote from: SGOS on March 18, 2020, 04:38:55 PM
This is the point where someone steps in and defends Islam. I'm actually surprised that no one has.
There is a burkha behind you ... boo!
Waves to Atlas33.
Of course it does..once they kill you, they have peace..just like early Christians did.
There is one piece of evidence that is glaring huge against it being a religion of peace, but they think it is glaringly huge in favor of this. It involves the Moorish conquest of Spain and the Reconquista.
It is actually against Islamic law to mistreat non-Muslims above and beyond making them pay a special tax for being non-Muslims in Muslim territory. The problem is, that law only applies in areas ruled by Muslims, especially in areas under Sharia law. Outside that area they believe no law applies. Think Grooming Gangs in Britain. So they are perfectly justified in ignoring laws in areas outside their jurisdiction.
When they conquer a non-Muslim area, it is their belief that they are bringing law and order to that area. They believed there was no law in Spain until they arrived. When the Spanish monarchs kicked them out, it was the Muslim belief the monarchs were stealing from the Muslims because the Muslims had established law and the Spanish were taking it away. They "owned" the territory and it was being "stolen".
That is why during the recent round of everyone asking for reparations, some Imams actually wanted Spain to pay reparations for the Reconquista.
Religious law is only used when convenient. The Fertile Crescent was the home of organized warfare and the blood feud. Nothing has changed.
Possibly excluding Jainism, no religion is a religion of peace -- certainly not when they have (or have gotten into a position to take) political power. They start talking peace only when they've lost political control. Only because they don't want done unto them what they did unto others.
Quote from: trdsf on March 31, 2020, 10:05:16 PM
Possibly excluding Jainism, no religion is a religion of peace -- certainly not when they have (or have gotten into a position to take) political power. They start talking peace only when they've lost political control. Only because they don't want done unto them what they did unto others.
Jains have had some political support at times, but haven't oppressed others. In contrast, Buddhism is intermittently political in a negative way. It is political in Myanmar and Thailand. The Buddha himself was closely tied to the "warrior" class in India, with kings in particular.
There are a few peaceful current “cults†that a rather peaceful. The quakers, amish, mennonites somewhat. But anytime one preaches peace and compassion one must keep a picture of John Wesley on hand as a reminder how quickly that turns to shit.
Quote from: aitm on April 01, 2020, 08:41:56 AM
There are a few peaceful current “cults†that a rather peaceful. The quakers, amish, mennonites somewhat. But anytime one preaches peace and compassion one must keep a picture of John Wesley on hand as a reminder how quickly that turns to shit.
US Methodist Church split N and S in 1861 over secession.
French ambassador to Sweden ...
"Etienne de Gonneville told Sweden’s national broadcaster SVT, “First, France is a Muslim country. Islam is the second-largest religion in France. We have anywhere between 4 and 8 million French citizens who have a Muslim heritage.â€"
"The ambassador then claimed that “al-Qaeda propaganda†and not “Islam†was to blame for Paty’s murder, despite the fact that the local Muslim community had incited retribution against the teacher for showing the cartoons."
More fun from the allies of the liberals
Seriously, Baruch? You're so bored you're bumping dead threads? Please, Baruch, for our sake and yours, pick up a new hobby.
Quote from: Blackleaf on October 28, 2020, 02:19:48 PM
Seriously, Baruch? You're so bored you're bumping dead threads? Please, Baruch, for our sake and yours, pick up a new hobby.
France is important to me, even if not important to you. Making a new thread on a current topic would be a waste.
"Former Malaysian PM: "Muslims Have A Right To Be Angry And Kill Millions Of French People"" ... ah yes, religion of peace allied to protests of peace
Quote from: aitm on April 01, 2020, 08:41:56 AM
There are a few peaceful current “cults†that a rather peaceful. The quakers, amish, mennonites somewhat. But anytime one preaches peace and compassion one must keep a picture of John Wesley on hand as a reminder how quickly that turns to shit.
Meh, the Amish aren't terribly nice to animals. They run a crap load of puppy mills in PA. My late rescue poodle was a breeder for them. When she wasn't of any use to them, they just got rid of her. Then there's the rape stuff.
https://www.npr.org/2020/01/19/797804404/investigation-into-child-sex-abuse-in-amish-communities
Usually this would go under Christianity.
Quote from: CrowTRobot on December 22, 2020, 09:06:09 PM
Meh, the Amish aren't terribly nice to animals. They run a crap load of puppy mills in PA. My late rescue poodle was a breeder for them. When she wasn't of any use to them, they just got rid of her. Then there's the rape stuff.
https://www.npr.org/2020/01/19/797804404/investigation-into-child-sex-abuse-in-amish-communities
I never heard about this before. Disturbing.
Quote from: SGOS on December 23, 2020, 01:01:03 PM
I never heard about this before. Disturbing.
Just when I was almost willing to give a sect a grudging pass, I read about the puppy mills these fuckers have! And then other stuff came out. Organized religion, with no exceptions, (that I am aware of) is evil and damaging.
Quote from: Mike Cl on December 23, 2020, 01:30:07 PM
Just when I was almost willing to give a sect a grudging pass, I read about the puppy mills these fuckers have! And then other stuff came out. Organized religion, with no exceptions, (that I am aware of) is evil and damaging.
Atheists commit immorality and crimes too. You should damn them every day ;-)
I always got a long with the Amish. I've done business with them. They seemed the least offensive of the religions around me, but they do have their detractors, mostly from other Christian sects. I just expected more from the Amish.
Quote from: SGOS on December 24, 2020, 11:19:20 AM
I always got a long with the Amish. I've done business with them. They seemed the least offensive of the religions around me, but they do have their detractors, mostly from other Christian sects. I just expected more from the Amish.
Their problems with women and with dissidents are noted. And of course they have the same percentage of criminals as any other group.
"Outrage After Pakistani Court Releases Convicted Murderer Of Journalist Daniel Pearl" ... religion of piece (of shit)
Because Islam has permited and has been mondatory, these bad anti-human actions, is Satanic and is not a peace religion:
1- Slavery.
2- Torment and torture (stoning, burning, lash).
3- Insulting to women and followers of other religions.
4- anti-womenism
5- Jihad against other religion.
6- favoritism
Quote from: Eclectic on December 17, 2022, 12:52:25 PMBecause Islam has permited and has been mondatory, these bad anti-human actions, is Satanic and is not a peace religion:
1- Slavery.
2- Torment and torture (stoning, burning, lash).
3- Insulting to women and followers of other religions.
4- anti-womenism
5- Jihad against other religion.
6- favoritism
That list applies just as well in relation to Christians. Just replace "Jihad" with "crusades." Also, three and four are basically the same thing, and I think you mean anti-feminism?
Quote from: Blackleaf on December 17, 2022, 02:31:21 PMThat list applies just as well in relation to Christians. Just replace "Jihad" with "crusades." Also, three and four are basically the same thing, and I think you mean anti-feminism?
I doubt that Christianity has permited, slavery and items of 2 and 3 and 4 and 6, but if it has permited one of them it is like Islam and is Satanic.
In Islam in Quran and hadith Permited and ordered to do all 6 item, but Jesus never ordered them.
item 6 = favoritism = if by law a person is not equal rifhts to other persons.
Quote from: Eclectic on December 18, 2022, 09:40:39 AMI doubt that Christianity has permited, slavery and items of 2 and 3 and 4 and 6, ...
Oh, you sweet summer chile.
Quote from: Eclectic on December 18, 2022, 09:40:39 AMI doubt that Christianity has permited, slavery and items of 2 and 3 and 4 and 6, but if it has permited one of them it is like Islam and is Satanic.
In Islam in Quran and hadith Permited and ordered to do all 6 item, but Jesus never ordered them.
item 6 = favoritism = if by law a person is not equal rifhts to other persons.
You haven't read the Bible, have you? God was a big fan of slavery. He had his people raid other cultures and take the survivors (if there were any) as lifelong slaves or "wives" (otherwise known as sex slaves). Even in the New Testament, God never condemns slavery, but actually commands slaves to be obedient to their masters.
"Slavery in the Bible was more like indentured servitude, and it was temporary."
No. This only applies to Hebrew slaves. If your neighbor owed you money, you could make them your slave until they paid you back, or until a certain amount of time has passed. Outsiders didn't get it that good. They served for life. Heck, even if you had one of those temporary slaves, the Bible has instructions on how to bribe them into staying. Just get a female slave and assign them as his wife. Over time, when he grows attached to her and likely has children with her, when it's time for him to be released, he can't take his wife and kids with him. They belong to you. If he wants to keep his family, he has to make an oath to serve you for the rest of his life.
As for favoritism, are you kidding? Christians love showing favoritism. If a business owner reveals themselves to be Christian, that's a shortcut to earning everyone's trust. You don't have to earn it. They're Christian, therefore it's assumed they're good people.
Name a US politician who isn't Christian. Republican or Democrat, doesn't matter. Both are overwhelmingly Christian, because people will not vote for you if they don't think you are a Christian.
Also, need I remind you we still haven't had a single female President in this god-fearing country? I wonder why...
Quote from: Baruch on October 29, 2020, 09:09:17 PM"Former Malaysian PM: "Muslims Have A Right To Be Angry And Kill Millions Of French People"" ... ah yes, religion of peace allied to protests of peace
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