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Title: Art for the artist's sake
Post by: Gregory on March 11, 2020, 09:30:27 PM
Is the artist forgiven everything for art?
Title: Re: Art for the artist's sake
Post by: Munch on March 11, 2020, 10:57:10 PM
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Title: Re: Art for the artist's sake
Post by: Sal1981 on March 11, 2020, 11:23:49 PM
Quote from: Gregory on March 11, 2020, 09:30:27 PM
Is the artist forgiven everything for art?
There are always those "artists" notorious for pushing taboo-related "art", which I suspect is just to plunge them on the world stage thanks to outrage mobs.

Just ignore the next the literally shitstained canvas you come across, don't blast it on social media for the world to see.
Title: Re: Art for the artist's sake
Post by: Hydra009 on March 11, 2020, 11:31:54 PM
True art is angsty.
Title: Re: Art for the artist's sake
Post by: Baruch on March 12, 2020, 10:13:50 AM
Quote from: Hydra009 on March 11, 2020, 11:31:54 PM
True art is angsty.

And starving in the garret.  But very valuable after the original artist is dead ;-)
Title: Re: Art for the artist's sake
Post by: Baruch on March 12, 2020, 10:15:02 AM
Quote from: Sal1981 on March 11, 2020, 11:23:49 PM
There are always those "artists" notorious for pushing taboo-related "art", which I suspect is just to plunge them on the world stage thanks to outrage mobs.

Just ignore the next the literally shitstained canvas you come across, don't blast it on social media for the world to see.

Stravinsky's "Rite of Spring" created a riot on opening night in the Paris ballet theater.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jF1OQkHybEQ

I like the original choreography version ...
Title: Re: Art for the artist's sake
Post by: SGOS on March 12, 2020, 10:54:19 AM
Quote from: Gregory on March 11, 2020, 09:30:27 PM
Is the artist forgiven everything for art?
I like art, but some times I don't.  It may or may not have anything to do with how edgy or repugnant it is.  I don't really have any desire to see a crucifix of Jesus in a vile of the artists urine.  I don't know what that means to the guy who created it, nor do I care.  It's simply a case of not caring about looking at someone's urine. Standing there and contemplating it as art seems pretentious to me. 
Title: Re: Art for the artist's sake
Post by: Baruch on March 12, 2020, 11:47:41 AM
Quote from: SGOS on March 12, 2020, 10:54:19 AM
I like art, but some times I don't.  It may or may not have anything to do with how edgy or repugnant it is.  I don't really have any desire to see a crucifix of Jesus in a vile of the artists urine.  I don't know what that means to the guy who created it, nor do I care.  It's simply a case of not caring about looking at someone's urine. Standing there and contemplating it as art seems pretentious to me.

Neither you nor I are wealthy enough or pretentious enough to pay big bucks to put that in our mansions.
Title: Re: Art for the artist's sake
Post by: Mike Cl on March 12, 2020, 10:53:21 PM
Art is 'art' if you like it--trash if you don't.  Like beauty, it is in the eye of the beholder.  What the artist thinks of it, or why it was done is usually of little interest to me.  An artist can produce a work with an objective in mind and I may simply see the work in another way.  Pisscasso did not produce any art.  If I had one of his works, I'd sell it for as much as I could get.  But I don't like his work--looks like a retarded 4 year old did it.  But that matters not to you--others love his stuff.  It's art if I like it and isn't if I don't.  Simple.
Title: Re: Art for the artist's sake
Post by: Hydra009 on March 12, 2020, 11:08:46 PM
Quote from: Mike Cl on March 12, 2020, 10:53:21 PMPisscasso did not produce any art.  If I had one of his works, I'd sell it for as much as I could get.  But I don't like his work--looks like a retarded 4 year old did it.
(https://media.makeameme.org/created/why-would-you-5c565a.jpg)

I applaud your boldness and candor.  Don't tell anyone, but I agree.  But don't let an art enthusiast know or I'll never hear the end of it.
Title: Re: Art for the artist's sake
Post by: SGOS on March 13, 2020, 04:56:39 AM
Quote from: Hydra009 on March 12, 2020, 11:08:46 PM
I applaud your boldness and candor.  Don't tell anyone, but I agree.  But don't let an art enthusiast know or I'll never hear the end of it.
When it gets to weird stuff, Pisscasso fails for me, but for reasons I don't understand, I love Jackson Pollack.  In my dreams, I picture a home with a large open space that combines kitchen, dinning, and living.  It's all painted white, real white, not tinted to be an off white.  There is no clutter just essential furniture.  There is only one piece of art in the area.  It's huge, possibly a non-objective splatter of intense color that screams and dominates everything else in the house.

But the thing about art is I can pick something out that I really like, hang it perfectly and admire it, and a month later, I forget that it's even there.
Title: Re: Art for the artist's sake
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on March 13, 2020, 05:23:44 AM
Art died with that urinal.
Title: Re: Art for the artist's sake
Post by: Baruch on March 13, 2020, 08:49:17 AM
Early Picasso ... the pink and blue periods, were nice.

Anyone like Salvador Dali?
Title: Re: Art for the artist's sake
Post by: Mike Cl on March 13, 2020, 09:15:32 AM
Dali, is at least, interesting.  I like him.  Rubens.  Like most of Boris Vallego's work.  I guess my fav would be in the area of fantasy art.
Title: Re: Art for the artist's sake
Post by: Unbeliever on March 13, 2020, 01:46:39 PM
I like Dali, and am very partial to Escher.

A lot of art is nice, but doesn't move me in any serious way.
Title: Re: Art for the artist's sake
Post by: Baruch on March 13, 2020, 06:15:07 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on March 13, 2020, 01:46:39 PM
I like Dali, and am very partial to Escher.

A lot of art is nice, but doesn't move me in any serious way.

Calder's Mobiles perhaps? ;-)
Title: Re: Art for the artist's sake
Post by: Gregory on March 13, 2020, 09:08:36 PM
If anyone called my art nice, I'd sue them.
Title: Re: Art for the artist's sake
Post by: Baruch on March 14, 2020, 01:36:34 AM
Quote from: Gregory on March 13, 2020, 09:08:36 PM
If anyone called my art nice, I'd sue them.

That may be the only way a "living" artist can get paid ;-)
Title: Re: Art for the artist's sake
Post by: Mike Cl on March 14, 2020, 08:52:37 AM
Quote from: Gregory on March 13, 2020, 09:08:36 PM
If anyone called my art nice, I'd sue them.
What type of art do you produce?  Any pictures of any of your pieces?
Title: Re: Art for the artist's sake
Post by: Unbeliever on March 14, 2020, 01:36:53 PM
I've created some really beautiful images with my Fractview app on my android, but I'm too tech-stupid to know how to get them here to show them off.
Title: Re: Art for the artist's sake
Post by: Baruch on March 14, 2020, 04:07:47 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on March 14, 2020, 01:36:53 PM
I've created some really beautiful images with my Fractview app on my android, but I'm too tech-stupid to know how to get them here to show them off.

Maybe do what I do with phone photos?  Email them as an attachment to yourself.  Then download the email attachment to a on-line picture repository, that you can reference back to here?
Title: Re: Art for the artist's sake
Post by: Unbeliever on March 14, 2020, 04:10:42 PM
I once tried sending one of the images to my e-mail. but all it sent was the code, not the image.
Title: Re: Art for the artist's sake
Post by: Baruch on March 14, 2020, 06:44:19 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on March 14, 2020, 04:10:42 PM
I once tried sending one of the images to my e-mail. but all it sent was the code, not the image.

You opened it in the email app?  You would have to bring up your email in someone else's computer, and download the attachment to the desktop.  Then it should be visible to the desktop.  But you can't simply make it visible from there, on this forum.  It has to be transferred to a compatible image storage, and then referenced from there into your post here.  Complicated, isn't it?  The only thing you can make visible directly from your desktop, is as an avatar picture, like a JPG.