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Title: Monstrous Morality
Post by: Gregory on February 27, 2020, 02:54:06 AM
Religion ain't worth the paper it's written on.  While the religious speak of logic, they have none.  The very idea of God is not logical in a very real sense.
Title: Re: Monstrous Morality
Post by: Baruch on February 27, 2020, 07:43:11 AM
Quote from: Gregory on February 27, 2020, 02:54:06 AM
Religion ain't worth the paper it's written on.  While the religious speak of logic, they have none.  The very idea of God is not logical in a very real sense.

Humans don't do reason, they do emotion.  Men and women do this.  The reason for religion is ... emotion.
Title: Re: Monstrous Morality
Post by: SGOS on February 27, 2020, 07:58:56 AM
Quote from: Gregory on February 27, 2020, 02:54:06 AM
Religion ain't worth the paper it's written on.  While the religious speak of logic, they have none.  The very idea of God is not logical in a very real sense.
The religious definition of logical is, "anything I believe."  The reasoning is build on a simple syllogism"

I think logically.
I think God exists.
Therefore, God exists.

And from the simplicity of that reasoning springs the grandeur of the Vatican, Liberty University, the Branch Davidians, Islam, and the People's Temple of Jim Jones.
Title: Re: Monstrous Morality
Post by: Draconic Aiur on February 27, 2020, 09:44:21 AM
Monstrous morality is the topic of insane righteousness. Like for example the reason that the crusades happened, the Ryneland Massacre, Holocaust, the Church's "convert or die" world conquest, the witch trials, branding scientists as heretics, and enslaving or attacking people because are different.
Title: Re: Monstrous Morality
Post by: Baruch on February 27, 2020, 09:54:03 AM
Quote from: Draconic Aiur on February 27, 2020, 09:44:21 AM
Monstrous morality is the topic of insane righteousness. Like for example the reason that the crusades happened, the Ryneland Massacre, Holocaust, the Church's "convert or die" world conquest, the witch trials, branding scientists as heretics, and enslaving or attacking people because are different.

Going on since New Guinea stone-age tribes.  But we are woke, so much more civilized than mere ... headhunters.  Where are the SJWs to protect the oppressed headhunters and cannibals?
Title: Re: Monstrous Morality
Post by: GSOgymrat on February 27, 2020, 09:58:06 AM
Quote from: Gregory on February 27, 2020, 02:54:06 AM
Religion ain't worth the paper it's written on.  While the religious speak of logic, they have none.  The very idea of God is not logical in a very real sense.

In a strict sense, no religion isn't logical but people do many things that don't seem logical, such as engaging in obviously self-destructive behaviors. It is understandable why we have religion when you think of humans as social mammals that tend towards hierarchy, with brains that have evolved to find patterns, and have used rituals and oral history for thousands of years to transfer information to their progeny.
Title: Re: Monstrous Morality
Post by: Baruch on February 27, 2020, 10:01:08 AM
Quote from: GSOgymrat on February 27, 2020, 09:58:06 AM
In a strict sense, no religion isn't logical but people do many things that don't seem logical, such as engaging in obviously self-destructive behaviors. It is understandable why we have religion when you think of humans as social mammals that tend towards hierarchy, with brains that have evolved to find patterns, and have used rituals and oral history for thousands of years to transfer information to their progeny.

Got ziggurats?  Pyramid 1.0 failed ... point was down.  Note to self ... Pyramid 2.0 ... put point up!  Trial and error mostly is what we do.
Title: Re: Monstrous Morality
Post by: Unbeliever on February 27, 2020, 01:30:37 PM
Quote from: Gregory on February 27, 2020, 02:54:06 AM
Religion ain't worth the paper it's written on.  While the religious speak of logic, they have none.  The very idea of God is not logical in a very real sense.

Preach on, Brother!


;-P
Title: Re: Monstrous Morality
Post by: Unbeliever on February 27, 2020, 01:35:50 PM
Quote from: Draconic Aiur on February 27, 2020, 09:44:21 AM
Monstrous morality is the topic of insane righteousness. Like for example the reason that the crusades happened, the Ryneland Massacre, Holocaust, the Church's "convert or die" world conquest, the witch trials, branding scientists as heretics, and enslaving or attacking people because are different.

And destroying valuable documents of anyone who didn't agree with their hogwash. They found an Archimedes manuscript that had been erased and covered over by a prayer book! That, to me, is a crime against humanity. Like destroying the Library of Alexandria, Christians pillaged and destroyed whatever didn't vindicate their dogmas.
Title: Re: Monstrous Morality
Post by: Unbeliever on February 27, 2020, 01:40:22 PM

"Whatever progress your nation has made, religion, any religion, can take control and strip away freedoms. Nowhere is free of the ranks of people who want to put us Under His Eye." - The Handmaid's Tale


Here are some good quotes about religion in general:
http://nullgod.com/index.php/topic,24.0.html
Title: Re: Monstrous Morality
Post by: Baruch on February 27, 2020, 03:41:03 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on February 27, 2020, 01:40:22 PM
"Whatever progress your nation has made, religion, any religion, can take control and strip away freedoms. Nowhere is free of the ranks of people who want to put us Under His Eye." - The Handmaid's Tale


Here are some good quotes about religion in general:
http://nullgod.com/index.php/topic,24.0.html

Yes, fairy tales are truth, in their direction.
Title: Re: Monstrous Morality
Post by: Gregory on February 28, 2020, 09:59:56 PM
When someone talks about first principles and the prism of reason, I say, do tell?
Title: Re: Monstrous Morality
Post by: Mike Cl on February 29, 2020, 12:00:34 AM
Quote from: Gregory on February 28, 2020, 09:59:56 PM
When someone talks about first principles and the prism of reason, I say, do tell?
Jeese--Gregory, don't say that, for Baruch will tell, and tell, and tell, and tell, and tell..............................................and tell.  But never the same way twice.
Title: Re: Monstrous Morality
Post by: Baruch on February 29, 2020, 01:32:49 AM
Quote from: Gregory on February 28, 2020, 09:59:56 PM
When someone talks about first principles and the prism of reason, I say, do tell?

People do a more or less bad job rationalizing their sins.
Title: Re: Monstrous Morality
Post by: Unbeliever on February 29, 2020, 02:13:43 PM
I don't even know what "first principles" and "the prism of reason" are. Do tell!
Title: Re: Monstrous Morality
Post by: Gregory on March 16, 2020, 02:26:22 AM
Quote from: Baruch on February 27, 2020, 07:43:11 AM
Humans don't do reason, they do emotion.  Men and women do this.  The reason for religion is ... emotion.

The reason for religion is evil.
Title: Re: Monstrous Morality
Post by: Baruch on March 16, 2020, 06:18:23 AM
Quote from: Gregory on March 16, 2020, 02:26:22 AM
The reason for religion is evil.

Lack of IQ isn't a source of Evil. But lack of EQ is.
Title: Re: Monstrous Morality
Post by: Gregory on March 16, 2020, 09:31:48 PM
The religious are not even emotional, they're calculating.
Title: Re: Monstrous Morality
Post by: Baruch on March 17, 2020, 08:19:46 AM
yawn
Title: Re: Monstrous Morality
Post by: Gregory on April 02, 2020, 02:40:23 PM
Human beings are too intelligent for their own good.
Title: Re: Monstrous Morality
Post by: Baruch on April 02, 2020, 02:54:53 PM
Quote from: Gregory on April 02, 2020, 02:40:23 PM
Human beings are too intelligent for their own good.

Lol.  We are not intelligent or good.