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Title: Which Enlightenment?
Post by: Baruch on January 12, 2020, 11:48:12 AM
French - later 18th century or British - earlier 18th century?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9AL0TUHuuM

All the good parts are British, all the bad parts are French.

Voltaire, Rousseau and Robespierre were psychotics.  The British philosophers were "Common Sense" like that John Locke, Adam Smith and Thomas Paine.  The damage of the French Revolution continues ... see Yellow Vests and giant union strikes.
Title: Re: Which Enlightenment?
Post by: SoldierofFortune on January 15, 2020, 12:41:32 PM
What the fuck i wanna i want to fuck tit……...
Title: Re: Which Enlightenment?
Post by: Sal1981 on January 15, 2020, 01:52:26 PM
Last week: Napoleon was great.
This week: Napoleon was a mass murderer.
Title: Re: Which Enlightenment?
Post by: Baruch on January 15, 2020, 08:13:06 PM
Last week: Napoleon was great.
This week: Napoleon was a mass murderer.

Exactly.  When you are on the winning side, it is great.  But Waterloo sucks.

The outcome of the French Revolution was military dictatorship followed by return to monarchy.  The Romanovs may be replace Commissar Putin ;-)  Putin just had his whole government resign (so unlike Trump) ... so he can change the Russian constitution at will.
Title: Re: Which Enlightenment?
Post by: Sal1981 on January 16, 2020, 11:50:34 AM
It was a note of how untrustworthy PragerU is.
Title: Re: Which Enlightenment?
Post by: Unbeliever on January 16, 2020, 01:19:46 PM
Just more propaganda from those who want total power.
Title: Re: Which Enlightenment?
Post by: Baruch on January 16, 2020, 02:57:58 PM
It was a note of how untrustworthy PragerU is.

How untrustworthy are people still recovering from hangovers from Woodstock?

Always attack the messenger.  Sure fire way to lose.

If Trump said 2+2=4 then Dems know that arithmetic is wrong ;-)

Fact is, English Enlightenment = good.  French Enlightenment = bad.  Free to disagree.  Got some oil for your guillotine, Francois?
Title: Re: Which Enlightenment?
Post by: Baruch on January 16, 2020, 02:58:48 PM
Just more propaganda from those who want total power.

When you come on a cloud, in the sky, from San Francisco ... as 4th horseman of the apocalypse?  No truth at all, anywhere ... say nihilists.

You are like every human being ... you want to be G-d.  Or at least be in charge of all the drug production.
Title: Re: Which Enlightenment?
Post by: SGOS on January 17, 2020, 08:53:39 AM
Just more propaganda from those who want total power.
It's amazing what can pass for logical thought if it's on Utube.
Title: Re: Which Enlightenment?
Post by: Baruch on January 17, 2020, 09:59:18 AM
It's amazing what can pass for logical thought if it's on Utube.

Correct ... if it backs Left narrative ... true ;-)

As I pointed out years ago, logic as usually used, is a red herring.  People rationalize (aka are demented).
Title: Re: Which Enlightenment?
Post by: SGOS on January 17, 2020, 11:12:41 AM
What the fuck i wanna i want to fuck tit……...
This calls for help from the Lord Spiritual.
http://ancientspelltemple.blogspot.com/
Title: Re: Which Enlightenment?
Post by: Sal1981 on January 17, 2020, 01:24:04 PM
How untrustworthy are people still recovering from hangovers from Woodstock?

Always attack the messenger.  Sure fire way to lose.

If Trump said 2+2=4 then Dems know that arithmetic is wrong ;-)

Fact is, English Enlightenment = good.  French Enlightenment = bad.  Free to disagree.  Got some oil for your guillotine, Francois?
Honestly, if PragerU said the sky was blue on a clear day, I'd be sure to check, just to be sure they weren't lying.
Title: Re: Which Enlightenment?
Post by: Baruch on January 17, 2020, 05:34:01 PM
Honestly, if PragerU said the sky was blue on a clear day, I'd be sure to check, just to be sure they weren't lying.

PDS ... Prager Derangement Syndrome.  Or do you only like Jews who are Bernie?
Title: Re: Which Enlightenment?
Post by: Sal1981 on January 18, 2020, 10:02:03 AM
PDS ... Prager Derangement Syndrome.  Or do you only like Jews who are Bernie?
Don't be gullible, is what you should be taking from that. PragerU is an obvious political arm of Dennis Prager, whose only goal is to push his political narrative.
Title: Re: Which Enlightenment?
Post by: Baruch on January 18, 2020, 04:10:10 PM
Don't be gullible, is what you should be taking from that. PragerU is an obvious political arm of Dennis Prager, whose only goal is to push his political narrative.

Every human is political.  Everyone pushes their narrative.  So?

I wouldn't post just anything from PragerU.

Do you love Voltaire, Rousseau and Robespierre and other great examples of French Enlightenment or not?  That is the topic, not the messenger.
Title: Re: Which Enlightenment?
Post by: Sal1981 on January 18, 2020, 06:16:21 PM
Every human is political.  Everyone pushes their narrative.  So?

I wouldn't post just anything from PragerU.

Do you love Voltaire, Rousseau and Robespierre and other great examples of French Enlightenment or not?  That is the topic, not the messenger.
I can't say that I know of any of their work. So I'm indifferent to them.
Title: Re: Which Enlightenment?
Post by: Baruch on January 18, 2020, 11:05:09 PM
I can't say that I know of any of their work. So I'm indifferent to them.

That is honest.
Title: Re: Which Enlightenment?
Post by: Gregory on March 04, 2020, 09:18:02 PM
Robespierre was a joke.  The humanist Left fixed his wagon.
Title: Re: Which Enlightenment?
Post by: Baruch on March 04, 2020, 11:22:41 PM
Robespierre was a joke.  The humanist Left fixed his wagon.

Correct ... he was a maniac.  But one man can head a revolution, but it takes many "helpers" to make it happen.  It took Napoleon to sort things out.  In a manner of speaking, it took Stalin to sort out the mess that Lenin had made.  Hitler sorted out the mess that the Weimar politicians made.  When things get darkest, break the glass marked War Lord.
Title: Re: Which Enlightenment?
Post by: Gregory on March 11, 2020, 02:26:54 AM
Full steam ahead, maximum poo-poo.
Title: Re: Which Enlightenment?
Post by: Baruch on March 11, 2020, 08:59:06 AM
Full steam ahead, maximum poo-poo.

Constipation is worse.
Title: Re: Which Enlightenment?
Post by: Gregory on April 02, 2020, 09:43:06 PM
The Enlightenment was the golden age of science while the masses moved towards religion.
Title: Re: Which Enlightenment?
Post by: Baruch on April 02, 2020, 09:44:59 PM
The Enlightment was the golden age of science while the masses moved towards religion.

Science (for the few) and Great Awakening (for the many).  The 18th century was a time of contradictions.