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Title: China cracks down on Christianity using Cult of Personality
Post by: Baruch on January 05, 2020, 05:31:06 AM
"...in some cases officials have required churches to take down pictures of Jesus and replace them with pictures of President Xi Jinping."

See atheists!  Emperor Xi has the Mandate of Heaven.  Buy more MS and Apple etc ... support your Divine Emperor!
Title: Re: China cracks down on Christianity using Cult of Personality
Post by: Sal1981 on January 05, 2020, 05:43:58 AM
Apple products suck. And Microsoft hardware is pretty dodgy too.
Title: Re: China cracks down on Christianity using Cult of Personality
Post by: Baruch on January 05, 2020, 09:44:46 AM
Quote from: Sal1981 on January 05, 2020, 05:43:58 AM
Apple products suck. And Microsoft hardware is pretty dodgy too.

At one time, Chinese dog food, was poison for dogs.  But it was cheap.  Consumers are rotters.

The odd thing, for Russian religion is the holy body of Vladimir Lenin, and for China, the holy bodies of Mao Tse Tung and Chao En Lai.  Isn't Communism a religion not a politics.
Title: Re: China cracks down on Christianity using Cult of Personality
Post by: Shiranu on January 05, 2020, 11:45:44 AM
China has finally reached that point of having enough power that they can do whatever the fuck they want, and just progressively keep pushing that line further and further. So long as no one does anything about it, China will just get bolder and bolder.

Oh, right, I forgot the "real enemy" is Iran.
Title: Re: China cracks down on Christianity using Cult of Personality
Post by: Mike Cl on January 05, 2020, 11:58:38 AM
I'm not too sure that in today's world, we are the real enemy.
Title: Re: China cracks down on Christianity using Cult of Personality
Post by: Munch on January 05, 2020, 04:14:51 PM
Quote from: Shiranu on January 05, 2020, 11:45:44 AM
China has finally reached that point of having enough power that they can do whatever the fuck they want, and just progressively keep pushing that line further and further. So long as no one does anything about it, China will just get bolder and bolder.

Oh, right, I forgot the "real enemy" is Iran.

Careful now, people might think your being racist to Chinese 😱
Title: Re: China cracks down on Christianity using Cult of Personality
Post by: Shiranu on January 05, 2020, 04:49:31 PM
Quote from: Munch on January 05, 2020, 04:14:51 PM
Careful now, people might think your being racist to Chinese 😱

If it's okay to be racist towards white people because they are institutionally racist, then it is logically even more acceptable to be racist against the Chinese in China because they put our racism to shame.
Title: Re: China cracks down on Christianity using Cult of Personality
Post by: Unbeliever on January 05, 2020, 05:14:58 PM
Just don't blame the Chinese people for what the Chinese government is doing. They have no more say in matters than we do.
Title: Re: China cracks down on Christianity using Cult of Personality
Post by: Munch on January 05, 2020, 06:18:47 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on January 05, 2020, 05:14:58 PM
Just don't blame the Chinese people for what the Chinese government is doing. They have no more say in matters than we do.

Actually they have less say, since saying anything it's government deems negative goes to downgrading your status in anything there.
Title: Re: China cracks down on Christianity using Cult of Personality
Post by: Baruch on January 05, 2020, 06:28:50 PM
Quote from: Shiranu on January 05, 2020, 11:45:44 AM
China has finally reached that point of having enough power that they can do whatever the fuck they want, and just progressively keep pushing that line further and further. So long as no one does anything about it, China will just get bolder and bolder.

Oh, right, I forgot the "real enemy" is Iran.

Machiavelli - anyone potentially more powerful than you, is the enemy.  But bring allies.  See Europe 1803-1945.  So of course China is an enemy, just as Russia still is.  Iran not so much.  Not politics.  This is still about Shia Islam and Cult-of-Personality Communism.
Title: Re: China cracks down on Christianity using Cult of Personality
Post by: Baruch on January 05, 2020, 06:29:46 PM
Quote from: Mike Cl on January 05, 2020, 11:58:38 AM
I'm not too sure that in today's world, we are the real enemy.

Always have been.  King George III did nothing wrong.  Again religious question, since he was head of Church of England.  Britain made the mistake of exiling their heretics instead of burning them.
Title: Re: China cracks down on Christianity using Cult of Personality
Post by: Baruch on January 05, 2020, 06:30:55 PM
Quote from: Munch on January 05, 2020, 04:14:51 PM
Careful now, people might think your being racist to Chinese 😱

Han Chinese are new master race.  Just ask Emperor Xi.  Not unreasonable in terms of imperial religion of China 200 years ago.
Title: Re: China cracks down on Christianity using Cult of Personality
Post by: Baruch on January 05, 2020, 06:31:58 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on January 05, 2020, 05:14:58 PM
Just don't blame the Chinese people for what the Chinese government is doing. They have no more say in matters than we do.

The people always support the popular Volk religion.  Ask Hitler.  German, Italian, Japanese people totally innocent.
Title: Re: China cracks down on Christianity using Cult of Personality
Post by: Shiranu on January 06, 2020, 12:02:49 AM
Quote from: Unbeliever on January 05, 2020, 05:14:58 PM
Just don't blame the Chinese people for what the Chinese government is doing. They have no more say in matters than we do.

I don't really want to get into it, but I really don't buy that the average Chinese citizen isn't indifferent (or even supportive) of the majority of horrible actions the government takes. I realise there is pressure to show support... but even from the punks, rebels and criminals of China who have been interviewed by the West, even they seem to think that it's not just an act but genuine support for Xi's actions.
Title: Re: China cracks down on Christianity using Cult of Personality
Post by: Unbeliever on January 06, 2020, 01:37:47 PM
Well, you may be right, but I have no way of knowing.
Title: Re: China cracks down on Christianity using Cult of Personality
Post by: Baruch on January 06, 2020, 07:47:53 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on January 06, 2020, 01:37:47 PM
Well, you may be right, but I have no way of knowing.

Epistemology - monkeys have no way of knowing ... anything.