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Title: The official but, but but... thread
Post by: ferdmonger on October 06, 2019, 10:14:58 PM
But, but but...

Biden!

Brown people!

Borders!

Benghazi!
Title: Re: The official but, but but... thread
Post by: Hydra009 on October 06, 2019, 10:39:26 PM
Look, I'm not trying to defend Trump or anything BUT...

the media is a bunch of liars

scientists know less about science than a guy with a truck as his Facebook profile

the Clintons are totes killers

Marvel movies are trying to indoctrinate kids to be ultralefties

Pizzagate is totally real, but the Epstein thing was ginned up

Bernie is old and aging (are you sure you want a super old guy to be prez? Clinton, Biden, and Trump are fine for some reason, though)

have you seen the Dilbert guy's latest comic, that guy is based amirite?  Ben Garrison, too

White supremacy doesn't exist cause I've never met a single white supremacist

(https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/031/021/cover2.jpg)
Title: Re: The official but, but but... thread
Post by: drunkenshoe on October 07, 2019, 05:30:08 AM
Quote from: Hydra009 on October 06, 2019, 10:39:26 PM

Marvel movies are trying to indoctrinate kids to be ultralefties


Wut?
Title: Re: The official but, but but... thread
Post by: Sal1981 on October 07, 2019, 07:08:35 AM
I approve of this message.
Title: Re: The official but, but but... thread
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on October 07, 2019, 07:38:38 AM
But what's the point?
Title: Re: The official but, but but... thread
Post by: Mike Cl on October 07, 2019, 09:20:03 AM
Quote from: drunkenshoe on October 07, 2019, 05:30:08 AM
Wut?
Come, Shoe--you didn't know that???!!
Title: Re: The official but, but but... thread
Post by: Hydra009 on October 07, 2019, 09:22:13 AM
Quote from: drunkenshoe on October 07, 2019, 05:30:08 AM
Wut?
https://boundingintocomics.com/2019/03/18/new-petition-demands-marvel-studios-drop-idea-of-a-lgbt-lead-actor-and-superhero-in-the-eternals/

And that's just the latest tantrum.
Title: Re: The official but, but but... thread
Post by: drunkenshoe on October 07, 2019, 09:30:02 AM
I know the usual, but didn't know there was something like this about the Marvel movies too.

They are trying to shut down Netflix Turkey here... for normalising lgbt+ and indoctrinating children with lgbt+.

Why can't they all live in one place happily ever after and leave the rest of the world alone?
Title: Re: The official but, but but... thread
Post by: drunkenshoe on October 07, 2019, 10:05:16 AM
The irony is superhero themes are traditionally right wing, actually religious themes. They are about entities with superpowers, superiority of characters or a side over people and any other thing in the world. Everything else is expendable, but the superheroes. It's about gaining the power, not annihilating the system based on distribution of power. They are not telling the stories of people working together to save themselves or unite against the system. People look up to god like saviours to save them. Without them they are vulnerable as children.

The nature of hero worship is right and religious, lol. The oldest, most primitive theme. It's literally the oldest fairy tale. But if one is gay or transgender, oooo then the world is going out of hand.

     
Title: Re: The official but, but but... thread
Post by: Hydra009 on October 07, 2019, 11:49:06 AM
Quote from: drunkenshoe on October 07, 2019, 09:30:02 AMWhy can't they all live in one place happily ever after and leave the rest of the world alone?
I know, right?  At this point, a ticket to Mars sounds lovely.
Title: Re: The official but, but but... thread
Post by: drunkenshoe on October 07, 2019, 01:21:03 PM
Quote from: Hydra009 on October 07, 2019, 11:49:06 AM
I know, right?  At this point, a ticket to Mars sounds lovely.

They will be among the first ones to go there after there a community is founded. Trust me. I am sure an 'untouched' planet is enough to arouse them to fly there foaming at the mouth by themselves.
Title: Re: The official but, but but... thread
Post by: Unbeliever on October 07, 2019, 01:21:59 PM
Why can't we all just get a long...stick to beat each other with?
Title: Re: The official but, but but... thread
Post by: ferdmonger on October 08, 2019, 02:49:51 AM
I brought this up because of 'whataboutism'.

It's disgusting.

I was in court years ago as a witness is in entirely unrelated matter, when the judge asked - before sentencing - if the defendant on a DUI would like to address the court.

"Yeah your honor.  I'd like to say my neighbor drinks and drives all the time but nobody seems to care about..."

"Sit down right now.  I'll not listen to this in my courtroom.  Your neighbor is not on trial here... you are."

It just so reminds me of Trump using 'the other guy' as the real culprit. 

It's sick and needs to stop. 
Title: Re: The official but, but but... thread
Post by: Mr.Obvious on October 08, 2019, 06:28:36 AM
Quote from: ferdmonger on October 08, 2019, 02:49:51 AM
I brought this up because of 'whataboutism'.

It's disgusting.

I was in court years ago as a witness is in entirely unrelated matter, when the judge asked - before sentencing - if the defendant on a DUI would like to address the court.

"Yeah your honor.  I'd like to say my neighbor drinks and drives all the time but nobody seems to care about..."

"Sit down right now.  I'll not listen to this in my courtroom.  Your neighbor is not on trial here... you are."

It just so reminds me of Trump using 'the other guy' as the real culprit. 

It's sick and needs to stop.

Sure, when Trump partakes in whataboutism it's bad.

But, But! But!

When  Burnie does it, he's heralded as a hero!
Title: Re: The official but, but but... thread
Post by: Baruch on October 08, 2019, 09:38:45 AM
Quote from: drunkenshoe on October 07, 2019, 05:30:08 AM
Wut?

Marvel Heroes … Captain Marvel should be at home making breakfast for hubby and kids, using super mommy powers.
Title: Re: The official but, but but... thread
Post by: Baruch on October 08, 2019, 09:41:07 AM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on October 07, 2019, 07:38:38 AM
But what's the point?

Orange Man Bad
Title: Re: The official but, but but... thread
Post by: Baruch on October 08, 2019, 09:44:09 AM
Quote from: Hydra009 on October 07, 2019, 09:22:13 AM
https://boundingintocomics.com/2019/03/18/new-petition-demands-marvel-studios-drop-idea-of-a-lgbt-lead-actor-and-superhero-in-the-eternals/

And that's just the latest tantrum.

I agree this is a tantrum.  Obviously Captain Marvel should be a FTM sex change.
Title: Re: The official but, but but... thread
Post by: Baruch on October 08, 2019, 09:47:10 AM
Quote from: drunkenshoe on October 07, 2019, 09:30:02 AM
I know the usual, but didn't know there was something like this about the Marvel movies too.

They are trying to shut down Netflix Turkey here... for normalising lgbt+ and indoctrinating children with lgbt+.

Why can't they all live in one place happily ever after and leave the rest of the world alone?

As a Jew I want to kill all the Gentiles.

As a LBGT+ (reveal) prior hints, I want to kill all the straight people.

As a male I want to kill all men.

As a White I want to kill all Europeans.

I am the one true liberal ... prove me wrong!!
Title: Re: The official but, but but... thread
Post by: Baruch on October 08, 2019, 09:48:50 AM
Quote from: drunkenshoe on October 07, 2019, 10:05:16 AM
The irony is superhero themes are traditionally right wing, actually religious themes. They are about entities with superpowers, superiority of characters or a side over people and any other thing in the world. Everything else is expendable, but the superheroes. It's about gaining the power, not annihilating the system based on distribution of power. They are not telling the stories of people working together to save themselves or unite against the system. People look up to god like saviours to save them. Without them they are vulnerable as children.

The nature of hero worship is right and religious, lol. The oldest, most primitive theme. It's literally the oldest fairy tale. But if one is gay or transgender, oooo then the world is going out of hand.

Correct.  That is why Hollywood is Marxist subversion of the culture.  And a massive Jewish conspiracy.

Title: Re: The official but, but but... thread
Post by: Baruch on October 08, 2019, 09:51:09 AM
Quote from: ferdmonger on October 08, 2019, 02:49:51 AM
I brought this up because of 'whataboutism'.

It's disgusting.

I was in court years ago as a witness is in entirely unrelated matter, when the judge asked - before sentencing - if the defendant on a DUI would like to address the court.

"Yeah your honor.  I'd like to say my neighbor drinks and drives all the time but nobody seems to care about..."

"Sit down right now.  I'll not listen to this in my courtroom.  Your neighbor is not on trial here... you are."

It just so reminds me of Trump using 'the other guy' as the real culprit. 

It's sick and needs to stop.

I agree.  I would put all your sorry high asses in jail, where is Barney Fife when you need him.
Title: Re: The official but, but but... thread
Post by: Baruch on October 08, 2019, 09:52:02 AM
Quote from: Unbeliever on October 07, 2019, 01:21:59 PM
Why can't we all just get a long...stick to beat each other with?

Because humans suck.  Particularly on their knees in front ...
Title: Re: The official but, but but... thread
Post by: Unbeliever on October 08, 2019, 01:23:12 PM
Quote from: Mr.Obvious on October 08, 2019, 06:28:36 AM
Sure, when Trump partakes in whataboutism it's bad.

But, But! But!

When  Burnie does it, he's heralded as a hero!

Got any examples of Bernie playing whataboutism? I'm not aware of any.
Title: Re: The official but, but but... thread
Post by: Mr.Obvious on October 08, 2019, 01:24:45 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on October 08, 2019, 01:23:12 PM
Got any examples of Bernie playing whataboutism? I'm not aware of any.

It's a joke.
Though I'm pretty sure everyone has done this at one point or another.
Title: Re: The official but, but but... thread
Post by: ferdmonger on October 09, 2019, 07:09:44 PM
Here's what I know.

If I don't appear after a lawfully issued subpoena, deputies will be at my door tomorrow - if not later in the day - to insure my appearance.

'But, but... the other guy!'

If Trump was in front of the judge I saw that day, he would have been smacked down.  Smacked down hard.



Title: Re: The official but, but but... thread
Post by: Baruch on October 10, 2019, 06:35:07 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on October 08, 2019, 01:23:12 PM
Got any examples of Bernie playing whataboutism? I'm not aware of any.

Did you have your wedding honeymoon in Moscow Russia, Comrade!
Title: Re: The official but, but but... thread
Post by: Baruch on October 10, 2019, 06:37:35 PM
Quote from: ferdmonger on October 09, 2019, 07:09:44 PM
Here's what I know.

If I don't appear after a lawfully issued subpoena, deputies will be at my door tomorrow - if not later in the day - to insure my appearance.

'But, but... the other guy!'

If Trump was in front of the judge I saw that day, he would have been smacked down.  Smacked down hard.

Here is some WABOUTISM … If I sexually abused, even with consenting adults, members of my staff, I would be fired, and probably in jail.  Not Bill Clinton.  It is harassment because of the differential of power, not because of lack of consent.  You can't even harass between equals (you will be fired if you ask a non-married coworker for a date, and they don't like it)l
Title: Re: The official but, but but... thread
Post by: ferdmonger on October 11, 2019, 09:11:59 PM
The current presidency is whataboutism cubed.

Personal attacks on his opponents' son who is not running for anything is peculiar.
Title: Re: The official but, but but... thread
Post by: Hydra009 on October 11, 2019, 09:14:28 PM
But...but...someone spit on someone else.  That's news, right?
Title: Re: The official but, but but... thread
Post by: ferdmonger on October 11, 2019, 10:42:37 PM
Maybe.  I don't know what that means.

What I know is that Trump got slapped down in three decisions today.

Not good for the Donald.

Title: Re: The official but, but but... thread
Post by: Baruch on October 11, 2019, 11:35:58 PM
Quote from: ferdmonger on October 11, 2019, 09:11:59 PM
The current presidency is whataboutism cubed.

Personal attacks on his opponents' son who is not running for anything is peculiar.

Dems to the re-education camps.  Not college, that makes the insanity worse.
Title: Re: The official but, but but... thread
Post by: Baruch on October 11, 2019, 11:39:56 PM
What about ism ...

Peter Pelosi, son of head of House of Representatives, also involved with corruption in Ukraine, just like Hunter Biden.

Joe Biden, been in corruption with E European oligarchs, not just Ukraine, not just Romania .. ever since the fall of the Iron Curtain.

Hunter Biden in corruption in China, with son of Whitey Bulger and John Kerry's stepson.

All political families in the US are Mafia.  Not just the Kennedy family (JFK dad head of Irish mob in the US).  The US government is a disorganized crime syndicate.  So yes, some people will be punished, some will not.  Same as in the original Godfather movie.

The real US anthem ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzqO1vJkJ9E

Glad I married a 1/2 Italian-American.
Title: Re: The official but, but but... thread
Post by: Hydra009 on October 12, 2019, 12:11:49 AM
Quote from: ferdmonger on October 11, 2019, 10:42:37 PM
Maybe.  I don't know what that means.

What I know is that Trump got slapped down in three decisions today.

Not good for the Donald.
Yeah, but someone spit on someone else and that makes liberals look bad.  Trump's gonna win.

Also, that's really minor stuff.  No one cares about who's locked up in cages or who died or who got arrested for campaign finance violations (boring!).  What the people really care about is who spit on who.
Title: Re: The official but, but but... thread
Post by: Baruch on October 12, 2019, 01:02:58 AM
Quote from: Hydra009 on October 12, 2019, 12:11:49 AM
Yeah, but someone spit on someone else and that makes liberals look bad.  Trump's gonna win.

Also, that's really minor stuff.  No one cares about who's locked up in cages or who died or who got arrested for campaign finance violations (boring!).  What the people really care about is who spit on who.

I really care that killers go free, killers who have killed thousands or millions of people.  Elizabeth Warren's little white lies ... pale by comparison.
Title: Re: The official but, but but... thread
Post by: Draconic Aiur on October 12, 2019, 03:51:36 AM
With the exception of my mom and her brother my uncle and a few cousins on my mom's side the whole family on her side can be nice people up until you see their idiotic monsters in human skins.

Title: Re: The official but, but but... thread
Post by: Baruch on October 12, 2019, 08:23:40 AM
Quote from: Draconic Aiur on October 12, 2019, 03:51:36 AM
With the exception of my mom and her brother my uncle and a few cousins on my mom's side the whole family on her side can be nice people up until you see their idiotic monsters in human skins.

Perfect candidates for political office (the bad relatives).
Title: Re: The official but, but but... thread
Post by: ferdmonger on October 14, 2019, 02:48:27 AM
http://www.startribune.com/fictitious-video-of-president-donald-trump-shooting-critics-and-media-shown-at-his-resort/563020832/

Here we are run amuck with nonsensical whataboutism.

But, but... the media!  Attack the media!  Kill the media!

This is what is passing for our presidency these days.
Title: Re: The official but, but but... thread
Post by: Baruch on October 14, 2019, 05:51:25 AM
Media has lied, from Thomas Paine forward.  Traitors, all of them.  Have any of you read the anti-Federalist papers?  The usual editorials for the election of 1800?  The media isn't the 4th branch of government.  They are Pravda on the Potomac/Hudson.  So ... they are worthy of attack or dismissal.

Feel the love, Democrats.  You are still in 1861, with slavery of colored folks on welfare, rather than in plantation.  Remember the decapitated fake Trump head from 2017?  Seems fine to me now.  We should have about 300 of those, for all the Dems in Congress, on regular display in front of the Capital building.
Title: Re: The official but, but but... thread
Post by: Unbeliever on October 14, 2019, 02:45:38 PM
Quote from: ferdmonger on October 14, 2019, 02:48:27 AM
http://www.startribune.com/fictitious-video-of-president-donald-trump-shooting-critics-and-media-shown-at-his-resort/563020832/

Here we are run amuck with nonsensical whataboutism.

But, but... the media!  Attack the media!  Kill the media!

This is what is passing for our presidency these days.

Yeah, I saw part of that on Amy Goodman's show. How sickening!
Title: Re: The official but, but but... thread
Post by: ferdmonger on October 15, 2019, 02:55:31 AM
I don't know who Amy Goodman is but I'm glad she agrees with me.
Title: Re: The official but, but but... thread
Post by: Mike Cl on October 15, 2019, 09:19:13 AM
Quote from: ferdmonger on October 15, 2019, 02:55:31 AM
I don't know who Amy Goodman is but I'm glad she agrees with me.
She is a news anchor on a show, "Democracy Now!".  I think it is an NPR program--and I do like it.
Title: Re: The official but, but but... thread
Post by: Unbeliever on October 15, 2019, 01:16:05 PM
That's generally where I start my news day every morning.

These are the headlines for today, for example:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7v5DjCNdz4
Title: Re: The official but, but but... thread
Post by: Baruch on October 15, 2019, 01:21:09 PM
I prefer Sky News Australia (less iiberal than Sky News UK).  BBC is a communist pedophile organization.
Title: Re: The official but, but but... thread
Post by: ferdmonger on November 05, 2019, 11:44:52 PM
Gordon Sondland, fresh out of whataboutisms, decided it wasn't worth donating a million bucks to be subject to perjury. 

Title: Re: The official but, but but... thread
Post by: Unbeliever on November 06, 2019, 02:03:39 PM
Trump vows to protect us with "pre-existing physicians."

LOL
Title: Re: The official but, but but... thread
Post by: Munch on November 06, 2019, 06:05:08 PM
Are these physicians registered?
Title: Re: The official but, but but... thread
Post by: Unbeliever on November 06, 2019, 06:12:13 PM
I don't know, you'll have to ask Trump, I guess.
Title: Re: The official but, but but... thread
Post by: Baruch on November 06, 2019, 07:00:20 PM
Quote from: Munch on November 06, 2019, 06:05:08 PM
Are these physicians registered?

No, per Labor, NHS is the only medical system on Earth.  All the rest of us have to deal with witch doctors.
Title: Re: The official but, but but... thread
Post by: Baruch on November 06, 2019, 07:01:10 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on November 06, 2019, 06:12:13 PM
I don't know, you'll have to ask Trump, I guess.

You don't ask the God-Emperor, he asks you!
Title: Re: The official but, but but... thread
Post by: Unbeliever on November 06, 2019, 07:13:06 PM
If he asked me to piss on him I wouldn't waste the water!  LOL


But then, he did go all the way to Moscow to study "trickle down"!
Title: Re: The official but, but but... thread
Post by: Baruch on November 07, 2019, 04:35:15 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on November 06, 2019, 07:13:06 PM
If he asked me to piss on him I wouldn't waste the water!  LOL


But then, he did go all the way to Moscow to study "trickle down"!

People here mostly went to Beijing to study Steve Job's little red book.
Title: Re: The official but, but but... thread
Post by: Baruch on November 13, 2019, 07:26:12 PM
The far end of one party in the US ...

Life isn't life
Gender isn't gender
Illegal isn't illegal
Criminals aren't criminals
Borders aren't real
Your money isn't your money

And the extreme end of the other party, has the exact same agenda ... NOT.

This isn't a policy position, it is a mental illness position.  The far end of the Dems need hospitalization.