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Title: Christianity News: US church leaders charged with using homeless for 'forced Lab
Post by: Unbeliever on September 15, 2019, 05:19:58 PM


https://news.yahoo.com/us-church-leaders-charged-using-homeless-forced-labor-194547027.html




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzo-AHLfZkY


This is why religion is so popular - it's easy to find ways to use it to enrich yourself.

Quote from: Martin Buber
Since the primary motive of the evil is disguise, one of the places where evil people are most likely to be found is within the Church. What better way to conceal one's evil from oneself, as well as from others, than to be a deacon or some other highly visible form of Christian within our culture?...I do not mean to imply that the evil are anything other than a small minority among the religious or that the religious motives of most people are in any way spurious. I mean only that evil people gravitate toward piety for the disguise and concealment it can offer them.
Title: Re: Christianity News: US church leaders charged with using homeless for 'forced Lab
Post by: Baruch on September 15, 2019, 09:42:04 PM
British method is better.  Shanghai them into the British Navy.  Huzzah!
Title: Re: Christianity News: US church leaders charged with using homeless for 'forced Lab
Post by: Munch on September 16, 2019, 08:25:51 AM
guess its not just the left leaning political stooges in LA and California that give empty promises to the homeless, gods house gotta get in on that too.
Title: Re: Christianity News: US church leaders charged with using homeless for 'forced Lab
Post by: Baruch on September 16, 2019, 10:04:24 AM
Quote from: Munch on September 16, 2019, 08:25:51 AM
guess its not just the left leaning political stooges in LA and California that give empty promises to the homeless, gods house gotta get in on that too.

No .. Marx's army of unemployed ... or did you think that Left politics would be labor-free?
Title: Re: Christianity News: US church leaders charged with using homeless for 'forced Lab
Post by: Unbeliever on September 16, 2019, 02:26:45 PM
More news from the lunatic fringe:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sdDOlMXEZI


I guess Jesus still holds the fasting record - rah rah rah!   LOL
Title: Re: Christianity News: US church leaders charged with using homeless for 'forced Lab
Post by: Blackleaf on September 16, 2019, 03:06:03 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on September 16, 2019, 02:26:45 PM
More news from the lunatic fringe:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sdDOlMXEZI


I guess Jesus still holds the fasting record - rah rah rah!   LOL

Don't tell these people that the "40 days and 40 nights" line was just a figure of speech; an exaggeration similar to what is today a common use of the word "forever." Maybe these people will starve themselves to death, and we'll have a few less assholes in the world.
Title: Re: Christianity News: US church leaders charged with using homeless for 'forced Lab
Post by: Unbeliever on September 16, 2019, 03:23:46 PM
Well, I've herd of eating contests, maybe the Christians can have a fasting contest. They can only win by starving themselves to death. They could win an all-expense-paid vacation to Paradise.
Title: Re: Christianity News: US church leaders charged with using homeless for 'forced Lab
Post by: Baruch on September 16, 2019, 03:27:11 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on September 16, 2019, 02:26:45 PM
More news from the lunatic fringe:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sdDOlMXEZI


I guess Jesus still holds the fasting record - rah rah rah!   LOL

Incorrect, ascended masters in the Himalayas can go ... years without much eating or drinking. eg:

https://encyclopediaofbuddhism.org/wiki/Milarepa

Isa (Jesus) a Bu-Jew living in Srinagar Kashmir ... was a predecessor.

Title: Re: Christianity News: US church leaders charged with using homeless for 'forced Lab
Post by: Baruch on September 16, 2019, 03:28:21 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on September 16, 2019, 03:23:46 PM
Well, I've herd of eating contests, maybe the Christians can have a fasting contest. They can only win by starving themselves to death. They could win an all-expense-paid vacation to Paradise.

I prefer the snake handlers.  Per Apostle Paul, a saint can be bit by a venomous snake, and not suffer ill effects.  They favor this in Arkansas.

Stalin was particularly hateful of other Leftists.  Perhaps we can have proper Communist tyranny in the US, and millions of socialist wanna-bees can enter the Gulag.
Title: Re: Christianity News: US church leaders charged with using homeless for 'forced Lab
Post by: Unbeliever on September 19, 2019, 06:16:49 PM
https://www.tampabay.com/news/clearwater/2019/09/16/clearwater-mayor-calls-for-assault-weapons-ban-my-prayers-arent-working/


Prayer doesn't work? Who could've possibly known that!?
Title: Re: Christianity News: US church leaders charged with using homeless for 'forced Lab
Post by: Baruch on September 20, 2019, 09:43:29 AM
Quote from: Unbeliever on September 19, 2019, 06:16:49 PM
https://www.tampabay.com/news/clearwater/2019/09/16/clearwater-mayor-calls-for-assault-weapons-ban-my-prayers-arent-working/


Prayer doesn't work? Who could've possibly known that!?

Guns firing on Leftists are more effective than prayer ;-(  Government guns (aka anti-Communist revanchism) or Blackwater army ;-((

The future ... either the Right are zombies, and we kill them all (because TV shows) or vis versa the Left are zombies etc ... of course there are no zombies, but don't shake the culling narrative.
Title: Re: Christianity News: US church leaders charged with using homeless for 'forced Lab
Post by: Unbeliever on September 20, 2019, 01:31:02 PM
Hell, just waiting for random chance is more effective than prayer.
Title: Re: Christianity News: US church leaders charged with using homeless for 'forced Lab
Post by: SoldierofFortune on September 20, 2019, 05:02:04 PM
Didn't read the OP and replies but the first thing that i thought when i read the term ''forced lab'' was ''newspeak''...
Since when the Word slavery have been called ''forced lab'' :D
Title: Re: Christianity News: US church leaders charged with using homeless for 'forced Lab
Post by: Baruch on September 20, 2019, 09:39:20 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on September 20, 2019, 01:31:02 PM
Hell, just waiting for random chance is more effective than prayer.

Feelin' lucky, punk?
Title: Re: Christianity News: US church leaders charged with using homeless for 'forced Lab
Post by: Baruch on September 20, 2019, 09:40:34 PM
Quote from: SoldierofFortune on September 20, 2019, 05:02:04 PM
Didn't read the OP and replies but the first thing that i thought when i read the term ''forced lab'' was ''newspeak''...
Since when the Word slavery have been called ''forced lab'' :D

Yep, and the Catholic priests fucked them all for good measure, right?

Traditionally, there is an opportunity for the poor to perform voluntary pro bono work as part of their association with charitable church organizations.  If someone violated that, then they are illegal.  It would violate the employment laws and laws organizing charitable organizations.
Title: Re: Christianity News: US church leaders charged with using homeless for 'forced Lab
Post by: Blackleaf on September 20, 2019, 10:46:20 PM
Quote from: Baruch on September 20, 2019, 09:39:20 PM
Feelin' lucky, punk?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH3CVUpw20k
Title: Re: Christianity News: US church leaders charged with using homeless for 'forced Lab
Post by: Unbeliever on September 25, 2019, 06:36:11 PM
QuoteThe Corporation of the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has filed a motion to dismiss a class action lawsuit that claims the LDS religion is a “scheme of lies.” Plaintiff Laura A. Gaddy says the LDS church influenced through misrepresentation and concealment to engineer an attraction to faith in the core beliefs of Mormonism.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7v9XVZt3jN4
Title: Re: Christianity News: US church leaders charged with using homeless for 'forced Lab
Post by: Baruch on September 25, 2019, 06:38:37 PM
Well, they might as make all thought and all expression a crime.  All human expression is insincere.
Title: Re: Christianity News: US church leaders charged with using homeless for 'forced Lab
Post by: Unbeliever on October 05, 2019, 05:51:57 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siCEByV9F7Y
Title: Re: Christianity News: US church leaders charged with using homeless for 'forced Lab
Post by: Baruch on October 05, 2019, 07:02:32 PM
Both theists and atheists don't know what they are talking about.  Do you look up every word you use, in the OED, every time you use it?  Didn't think so.  Even intellectuals are lazy, are winging it.
Title: Re: Christianity News: US church leaders charged with using homeless for 'forced Lab
Post by: drunkenshoe on October 06, 2019, 02:52:28 AM
We have the same saying word for word. It's used for a lot of things over here. It's most often used in fairy tales. Like 'after a wedding that went for 40 days and nights, they lived happily ever after'. I was thinking it is probably a farsi or an arabic phrase, but apparently it is Shaman which means it is way too ancient. The '40 something' is all over the place in the Middle East and Asia.

40 warriors, 40 maidens, 40 haramis (Ali Baba and 40 haramis), Moses got his orders in 40 days, 40 days of fasting in Christianity...
Title: Re: Christianity News: US church leaders charged with using homeless for 'forced Lab
Post by: Baruch on October 06, 2019, 09:34:12 AM
Idioms are the living core of a language.  And usually ephemeral.
Title: Re: Christianity News: US church leaders charged with using homeless for 'forced Lab
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on October 08, 2019, 05:30:37 PM
Who was forcing the Lab and why?
Title: Re: Christianity News: US church leaders charged with using homeless for 'forced Lab
Post by: EmpJohnIV on November 25, 2019, 09:57:23 AM
My town put up a secular homeless shelter last summer, some of my buddies were movers and shakers to get it started. Recently I was walking down town after dark and got to chat with a middle aged homeless lady, she had mistook a friend I was walking with for being homeless as said "Don't go to the shelter, there are a bunch of [petty control freaks]." Kindly the woman offered us advise on which parks to camp in, and where some stashes of extra bedding were hidden; we thanked her for the tips, but were not in need of such accommodations. Still its is an example of something the homeless deal with all the time.

If the brackets don't give it away, she didn't call the folks running the shelter 'petty control freaks', her exact working was more vivid, but I have followed the mistreatment the folks get living on the street for some time, and petty control freaks sums it up. They run this nice little shelter and are giving out benefits, and expect every person who seeks these benefits to be obedient. Seems like these sort of psychology power trip head games get a lot of people all hot and heavy, especially manager and administrator types; and for people into that rush, the homeless are the best targets, because what can they do about it, except obey or bounce?

I used to be homeless for a few year after college, but I am a real slick talker and most folks didn't treat me as beneath them, even yuppies and the like! But people that cannot talk in the lingo of the correct classes in society, they get treated just terrible.

I never seen forced labor, but homeless people get stole from by corrupt 'benefactors' religious or secular all the time. It ain't hard for me to picture and of a number of shelters I have scoped out falling down that dark path if they had the moxie to try getting away with it.
Title: Re: Christianity News: US church leaders charged with using homeless for 'forced Lab
Post by: Baruch on November 25, 2019, 11:17:18 AM
Most homeless people in the US are veterans.  Most homeless are mentally ill or physically ill, are lacking in medical support or are uncooperative with their care givers.  A real flaming sack of shit.  Only autistic boys are worse (they can't speak, can't socialize, act out violently).

Why would any normal person want anything to do with that?  Secular or religious?   Control freaks.  The patients will be uncooperative, and will need ... discipline.  The condition of sadism is a very common desire.  Because people are crazy shits.  Same with providing services to drug abusers or acting as a guard at a prison.
Title: Re: Christianity News: US church leaders charged with using homeless for 'forced Lab
Post by: Unbeliever on January 07, 2020, 05:42:17 PM
Church Leader Who Condemns Homosexuality Caught Trolling for Sex Through Grindr (https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2019/12/16/church-leader-who-condemns-homosexuality-caught-trolling-for-sex-through-grindr/)

Hell, I wouldn't mind having an Arby's card...but I don't live in Missouri.

:-)
Title: Re: Christianity News: US church leaders charged with using homeless for 'forced Lab
Post by: Baruch on January 07, 2020, 09:29:17 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on January 07, 2020, 05:42:17 PM
Church Leader Who Condemns Homosexuality Caught Trolling for Sex Through Grindr (https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2019/12/16/church-leader-who-condemns-homosexuality-caught-trolling-for-sex-through-grindr/)

Hell, I wouldn't mind having an Arby's card...but I don't live in Missouri.

:-)

The hubris burns.  Christian clergy should know that already.