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Title: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: Hydra009 on September 02, 2019, 11:42:43 AM
Catholic pastor removes Harry Potter books from school library after consulting vatican exorcists (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/harry-potter-banned-school-library-nashville-tennessee-exorcist-a9087676.html)

QuoteA Roman Catholic school in Tennessee has banished JK Rowling's universally popular series of Harry Potter novels from its library shelves after its pastor took exception to their portrayal of magic, warning the spells and curses the author describes are real and “risk conjuring evil spirits” when read.

Quote“These books present magic as both good and evil, which is not true, but in fact a clever deception. The curses and spells used in the books are actual curses and spells; which when read by a human being risk conjuring evil spirits into the presence of the person reading the text,” the Reverend Reehill wrote, apparently in all seriousness

I think this guy's mom cast stupify on herself when she was pregnant with him.  :P

Also, I've gotta say, all that these people are doing by literally demonizing this stuff is making it a hundred times cooler.

Children's book with a cliched chosen one plotline set in a world of wizardry: meh, it's alright

Children's book that shows you how to cast spells in real life: sign me the hell up!

Sorting hat, do your thing!  (Please not Hufflepuff, please not Hufflepuff)
Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on September 02, 2019, 12:00:53 PM
There is plenty of magic in the Bible. Including evil magic where plagues of locust are called up, rivers are turned to blood, cattle die, and the first born of selected groups are killed.

However, if you actually read the HP books you'll note that they observe Christmas and Easter.
Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: Munch on September 02, 2019, 02:35:56 PM
Accio dumb
Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: drunkenshoe on September 02, 2019, 02:40:26 PM
Well, in a way it is real.

We all are in early stages. Harry Potter is a fairy tale of a bunch kids and a community beating some variant of Nazis in small scale.

Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: Hydra009 on September 02, 2019, 03:56:56 PM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on September 02, 2019, 12:00:53 PMHowever, if you actually read the HP books you'll note that they observe Christmas and Easter.
So, the Halfblood Prince of Nazareth is canon?
Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: Hydra009 on September 02, 2019, 03:58:56 PM
Quote from: drunkenshoe on September 02, 2019, 02:40:26 PMHarry Potter is a fairy tale of a bunch kids and a community beating some variant of Nazis in small scale.
Promotes intolerance towards conservatives.  Got it.
Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on September 02, 2019, 04:35:08 PM
Quote from: Hydra009 on September 02, 2019, 03:58:56 PM
Promotes intolerance towards conservatives.  Got it.
Yeah, and they do some bad things too.
Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: drunkenshoe on September 02, 2019, 04:37:45 PM
Quote from: Hydra009 on September 02, 2019, 03:58:56 PM
Promotes intolerance towards conservatives.  Got it.

No. As you perfecctly know.
Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on September 02, 2019, 05:57:41 PM
Quote from: drunkenshoe on September 02, 2019, 04:37:45 PM
No. As you perfecctly know.
The wizarding world is highly conservative.
Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: drunkenshoe on September 02, 2019, 06:09:13 PM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on September 02, 2019, 05:57:41 PM
The wizarding world is highly conservative.

Then you are a fucking moron!
Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on September 02, 2019, 06:46:40 PM
Quote from: drunkenshoe on September 02, 2019, 06:09:13 PM
Then you are a fucking moron!
Okay, tell me why I'm a fucking moron.
Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: drunkenshoe on September 02, 2019, 06:59:03 PM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on September 02, 2019, 06:46:40 PM
Okay, tell me why I'm a fucking moron.
You know what- you don't-  But somehow you would. ...

I apologise, sweety. But really, you know
Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on September 02, 2019, 07:02:49 PM
Quote from: drunkenshoe on September 02, 2019, 06:59:03 PM
You know what- you don't-  But somehow you would. ...

I apologise, sweety. But really, you know

You need to have a nice chat with a professional.
Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: Baruch on September 02, 2019, 07:14:02 PM
Quote from: Hydra009 on September 02, 2019, 03:58:56 PM
Promotes intolerance towards conservatives.  Got it.

Nazis aren't conservative.  They are competitive progressive ... competitive with Stalinist progressive.  Conservative would be return to monarchy in Germany/Russia.

This is just more "I hate "conservative" as a trigger" therefore if I also dislike potatoes, then potatoes are conservative.  How "atheist" is a cuss word without substance.

Americans were originally progressive, same as France.  But the problem with progressivism is that people want acceleration to utopia, right now!

We differ on what utopia is.  Union in the US Civil War?  Confederacy was conservative.  Aryan master race?  New Soviet man?
Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: Baruch on September 02, 2019, 07:15:13 PM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on September 02, 2019, 04:35:08 PM
Yeah, and they do some bad things too.

FDR did bad things.  The question who is doing what to whom.  You want no bad things?  Back to the pram with you.
Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: Baruch on September 02, 2019, 07:16:26 PM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on September 02, 2019, 05:57:41 PM
The wizarding world is highly conservative.

I am surprised that it wasn't banned by Leftists.
Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: Cavebear on September 03, 2019, 01:55:15 AM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on September 02, 2019, 12:00:53 PM
There is plenty of magic in the Bible. Including evil magic where plagues of locust are called up, rivers are turned to blood, cattle die, and the first born of selected groups are killed.

However, if you actually read the HP books you'll note that they observe Christmas and Easter.

Harry Potter is obviously a Christian magician.  So he should be burned at the stake.

Harry Potter is as English as The Hobbits.  Christian overtones all though both.

Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on September 03, 2019, 06:49:02 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on September 03, 2019, 01:55:15 AM
Harry Potter is obviously a Christian magician.  So he should be burned at the stake.

Harry Potter is as English as The Hobbits.  Christian overtones all though both.


I met Hobbits when I was in England in the '70s. They were a group of little people who did skits in Piccadilly. Hilarious stuff. The Peelers had to break up the crowds every so often. (I was watching from a cafe they were performing in front of.)
Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: Cavebear on September 03, 2019, 06:58:56 AM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on September 03, 2019, 06:49:02 AM
I met Hobbits when I was in England in the '70s. They were a group of little people who did skits in Piccadilly. Hilarious stuff. The Peelers had to break up the crowds every so often. (I was watching from a cafe they were performing in front of.)

Not quite what I expected mentioning Hobbits, but that is pretty cool.
Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on September 03, 2019, 07:09:16 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on September 03, 2019, 06:58:56 AM
Not quite what I expected mentioning Hobbits, but that is pretty cool.
They had the characters down pat, but with a comic twist. The lady who played Rosie was delightfully ribald.
Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: Cavebear on September 03, 2019, 07:15:33 AM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on September 03, 2019, 07:09:16 AM
They had the characters down pat, but with a comic twist. The lady who played Rosie was delightfully ribald.

I do wish I had been there to see THAT!  No wonder Sam was so entranced by her...  And here I thought his interest in her was so innocent.
Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: drunkenshoe on September 03, 2019, 08:05:14 AM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on September 02, 2019, 07:02:49 PM
You need to have a nice chat with a professional.

LOL, just because of messing around lightly? You're cruel.
Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on September 03, 2019, 09:04:57 AM
Quote from: drunkenshoe on September 03, 2019, 08:05:14 AM
LOL, just because of messing around lightly? You're cruel.
Cold reading your posts makes me want to sent you the contact info for a mental health facility.
Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: aitm on September 03, 2019, 10:49:19 AM
Well, magic IS real. i was opened my fridge looking for my last beer and alas, twas already gone....hoping, I closed the door and said "come on baby", opened the door dug around for a few minutes behind the mayo and orange and YES! One beer left. Magic rules bitches!
Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on September 03, 2019, 11:22:41 AM
Quote from: aitm on September 03, 2019, 10:49:19 AM
Well, magic IS real. i was opened my fridge looking for my last beer and alas, twas already gone....hoping, I closed the door and said "come on baby", opened the door dug around for a few minutes behind the mayo and orange and YES! One beer left. Magic rules bitches!
You know that violates the Five Exceptions to Magic, right?
Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: aitm on September 03, 2019, 12:06:46 PM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on September 03, 2019, 11:22:41 AM
You know that violates the Five Exceptions to Magic, right?

Don't know what those are....and quite peeing on my "beliefs"!
Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: Cavebear on September 03, 2019, 12:20:48 PM
Quote from: aitm on September 03, 2019, 10:49:19 AM
Well, magic IS real. i was opened my fridge looking for my last beer and alas, twas already gone....hoping, I closed the door and said "come on baby", opened the door dug around for a few minutes behind the mayo and orange and YES! One beer left. Magic rules bitches!

Buy it by the case...  Actually, I stopped drinking the stuff years ago, but keep some around for making bread.
Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on September 03, 2019, 12:28:55 PM
Quote from: aitm on September 03, 2019, 12:06:46 PM
Don't know what those are....and quite peeing on my "beliefs"!
https://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/24803/what-are-the-other-four-exceptions-to-gamps-law-of-elemental-transfiguration
Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: aitm on September 03, 2019, 12:38:33 PM
Quote from: Cavebear on September 03, 2019, 12:20:48 PM
Buy it by the case...  Actually, I stopped drinking the stuff years ago, but keep some around for making bread.
I do buy it by the case, but after all, it just doesn't sit there...it gets drunken, drank, drinked....whatever.
Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: aitm on September 03, 2019, 12:45:59 PM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on September 03, 2019, 12:28:55 PM
https://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/24803/what-are-the-other-four-exceptions-to-gamps-law-of-elemental-transfiguration

meh..saying something can't be done because you can't do it, doesn't mean it can't be done. It means YOU can't do it. Of course it is impossible to do what they are saying can't be done...but that is exactly what magic implies. That's is why it is called "magic".

Superman cannot simply accelerate from a stopped position in the sky. He cannot hold down that which exerts more lift than he weighs simply standing on the ground. But it is science fiction, no more, no less than the idea of magic.
Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on September 03, 2019, 12:47:16 PM

And?
Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: Cavebear on September 03, 2019, 01:41:01 PM
Quote from: aitm on September 03, 2019, 12:38:33 PM
I do buy it by the case, but after all, it just doesn't sit there...it gets drunken, drank, drinked....whatever.

These days, I like a cocktail at 5 pm and wine with dinner at 7.
Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on September 03, 2019, 01:46:00 PM
The sun is over the yardarm somewhere in the world all the time.
Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: Cavebear on September 03, 2019, 01:55:35 PM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on September 03, 2019, 01:46:00 PM
The sun is over the yardarm somewhere in the world all the time.

And the fewmets have hit the windmill!  The sun is over the Horizon! The fish are swimming!
Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on September 03, 2019, 02:01:25 PM
Quote from: Cavebear on September 03, 2019, 01:55:35 PM
And the fewmets have hit the windmill!  The sun is over the Horizon! The fish are swimming!
Not drinking until the sun was over the yardarm was a Royal Navy rule of thumb.
Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: Baruch on September 03, 2019, 02:14:12 PM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on September 03, 2019, 02:01:25 PM
Not drinking until the sun was over the yardarm was a Royal Navy rule of thumb.

Biblical.  Grog vs Magog ;-)
Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: drunkenshoe on September 05, 2019, 02:33:37 AM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on September 03, 2019, 09:04:57 AM
Cold reading your posts makes me want to sent you the contact info for a mental health facility.

I'm looking forward to a psychic reading. Or you could use my zodiac sign.
Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: Baruch on September 05, 2019, 03:10:32 AM
Quote from: drunkenshoe on September 05, 2019, 02:33:37 AM
I'm looking forward to a psychic reading. Or you could use my zodiac sign.

Rorschach ink blots made electronically, that resemble strings of letters?
Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on September 05, 2019, 06:31:35 AM
Quote from: drunkenshoe on September 05, 2019, 02:33:37 AM
I'm looking forward to a psychic reading. Or you could use my zodiac sign.
Without amplification of your comments we're left with mindreading.
Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: drunkenshoe on September 05, 2019, 07:39:11 AM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on September 05, 2019, 06:31:35 AM
Without amplification of your comments we're left with mindreading.

Hmm. Tin hats? I can make one.
Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on September 05, 2019, 08:25:51 AM
Bye
Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: Unbeliever on September 05, 2019, 01:29:35 PM
Quote from: drunkenshoe on September 05, 2019, 07:39:11 AM
Hmm. Tin hats? I can make one.

I thought tin hats were to prevent mindreading.
Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: drunkenshoe on September 05, 2019, 01:46:59 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on September 05, 2019, 01:29:35 PM
I thought tin hats were to prevent mindreading.

Oeerr... Well, he can 'cold read' from the internet, with him it is like a booster. You know, the long pointy bit.
Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: Baruch on September 05, 2019, 01:52:35 PM
Quote from: drunkenshoe on September 05, 2019, 01:46:59 PM
Oeerr... Well, he can 'cold read' from the internet, with him it is like a booster. You know, the long pointy bit.

Tin Man was KKK?  Who knew!
Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on September 05, 2019, 01:54:25 PM
Quote from: drunkenshoe on September 05, 2019, 01:46:59 PM
Oeerr... Well, he can 'cold read' from the internet, with him it is like a booster. You know, the long pointy bit.
Dumbass, reading a post cold is not the same as cold reading.
Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: drunkenshoe on September 05, 2019, 02:12:28 PM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on September 05, 2019, 01:54:25 PM
Dumbass, reading a post cold is not the same as cold reading.

Why am I a dumb ass? You wrote: "Cold reading your posts makes me want to sent you the contact info for a mental health facility."


Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on September 05, 2019, 02:32:04 PM
Quote from: drunkenshoe on September 05, 2019, 02:12:28 PM
Why am I a dumb ass? You wrote: "Cold reading your posts makes me want to sent you the contact info for a mental health facility."



Yes, fuckuts, and I said nothing about psychic readings. Your reading misapprehensions demonstrate a very weak education.
Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: drunkenshoe on September 06, 2019, 04:44:51 AM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on September 05, 2019, 02:32:04 PM
Yes, fuckuts, and I said nothing about psychic readings. Your reading misapprehensions demonstrate a very weak education.

You didn't need to. Your line didn't make any sense to begin with. Anyone could have taken it that way. It has nothing to do with education, but a misunderstanding at most. Why are you so bitter? 
Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on September 06, 2019, 06:11:53 AM
Quote from: drunkenshoe on September 06, 2019, 04:44:51 AM
You didn't need to. Your line didn't make any sense to begin with. Anyone could have taken it that way. It has nothing to do with education, but a misunderstanding at most. Why are you so bitter? 
LOL
Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: Cavebear on September 06, 2019, 09:56:50 PM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on September 03, 2019, 02:01:25 PM
Not drinking until the sun was over the yardarm was a Royal Navy rule of thumb.

I think it was WC Fields who once said he never touched liquor before 5 PM, but it was always 5pm somewhere. 
Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on September 07, 2019, 10:18:40 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on September 06, 2019, 09:56:50 PM
I think it was WC Fields who once said he never touched liquor before 5 PM, but it was always 5pm somewhere. 
ID this one:

"Sir, if you were my husband I'd serve you poison."

"Madame, if you were my wife I'd drink it."
Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: Baruch on September 07, 2019, 11:05:55 AM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on September 07, 2019, 10:18:40 AM
ID this one:

"Sir, if you were my husband I'd serve you poison."

"Madame, if you were my wife I'd drink it."

Churchill to Lady Astor?  At that time, only woman in Parliament.  She being born American.  And he being born half American.  No wonder the British lost their compass ;-)  Kick women out of Parliament, back to the home, making tea and scones ;-)
Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: Unbeliever on September 07, 2019, 01:46:04 PM
Quote from: Cavebear on September 06, 2019, 09:56:50 PM
I think it was WC Fields who once said he never touched liquor before 5 PM, but it was always 5pm somewhere. 

I think he also said that he never drinks water, because fish fuck in it. LOL
Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: Unbeliever on September 07, 2019, 01:48:45 PM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on September 07, 2019, 10:18:40 AM
ID this one:

"Sir, if you were my husband I'd serve you poison."

"Madame, if you were my wife I'd drink it."

Sounds like something Groucho Marx would've said. Churchill should've been in pictures! LOL
Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: Baruch on September 07, 2019, 01:53:25 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on September 07, 2019, 01:48:45 PM
Sounds like something Groucho Marx would've said. Churchill should've been in pictures! LOL

He was the most Drama Queen of British politicians.  He did take politics as his "stage".
Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: Mike Cl on September 07, 2019, 06:32:13 PM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on September 07, 2019, 10:18:40 AM
ID this one:

"Sir, if you were my husband I'd serve you poison."

"Madame, if you were my wife I'd drink it."

When Nancy Astor, Britain's first female MP, told Sir Winston Churchill that: "If I were your wife I would put poison in your coffee," Churchill famously replied: "Nancy, if I were your husband I would drink it."

Except that he did not say it, according to Boris Johnson, who writes in a new book on the wartime leader that it is one of many one-liners wrongly attributed to the great man.

The put-down first appeared in a joke of the day column in the Chicago Tribune in 1900, almost 40 years before Churchill's supposed exchange with Mrs Astor.
Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: Baruch on September 07, 2019, 06:46:37 PM
Quote from: Mike Cl on September 07, 2019, 06:32:13 PM
When Nancy Astor, Britain's first female MP, told Sir Winston Churchill that: "If I were your wife I would put poison in your coffee," Churchill famously replied: "Nancy, if I were your husband I would drink it."

Except that he did not say it, according to Boris Johnson, who writes in a new book on the wartime leader that it is one of many one-liners wrongly attributed to the great man.

The put-down first appeared in a joke of the day column in the Chicago Tribune in 1900, almost 40 years before Churchill's supposed exchange with Mrs Astor.

But Boris is the anti-Christ ... according the the Worldwide Left Empire.

I read that whole book.  Hilarious.  Under the category of ... "if he didn't say it, he should have".
Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: Mike Cl on September 07, 2019, 10:07:34 PM
Quote from: Baruch on September 07, 2019, 06:46:37 PM
But Boris is the anti-Christ ... according the the Worldwide Left Empire.

I read that whole book.  Hilarious.  Under the category of ... "if he didn't say it, he should have".
Like--Let them eat cake.  Not said either.
Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on September 08, 2019, 06:19:10 AM
But still fun.
Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: Baruch on September 08, 2019, 06:20:57 AM
Quote from: Mike Cl on September 07, 2019, 10:07:34 PM
Like--Let them eat cake.  Not said either.

Let them eat brioche ... like a honey bun.  Stuff your gob, you sans culottes.
Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: Unbeliever on September 08, 2019, 05:28:57 PM
Does anyone remember whether the religious nuts went, well, nuts, about the magic in Bewitched or I Dream of Jeannie?
Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: Baruch on September 08, 2019, 05:49:21 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on September 08, 2019, 05:28:57 PM
Does anyone remember whether the religious nuts went, well, nuts, about the magic in Bewitched or I Dream of Jeannie?

I was pretty young.  I don't recall any religious controversy.

I Dream of Jeannie inspired and rivaled Bewitched.  In I Dream o fJeannie, the plot arc got tired out when Jeannie left the Major, and eventually reconciled and married him.  The only controversy I can recall is that Jeannie was too scantily clad.  With Betwitched, Barbara Eden who played the lead, grew tired of it and was going thru marriage problems.  The criticism at the time, at the end of their run, is that neither lead portrayed a Betty Friedan style feminist.  The mother-in-law in Bewitched was the closest approximation to that.

The resurgence of Christian Evangelism happened mostly in the 70s, after their runs had finished, in reaction to 60s counterculture.
Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: Unbeliever on September 08, 2019, 06:11:28 PM
I think I recall some outrage about Jeannie's exposed belly button.
Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: Baruch on September 08, 2019, 06:29:05 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on September 08, 2019, 06:11:28 PM
I think I recall some outrage about Jeannie's exposed belly button.

We lived in innocent times, that Millennials can't conceive of.
Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: aitm on September 08, 2019, 07:41:20 PM
Quote from: Baruch on September 08, 2019, 05:49:21 PM
I was pretty young.  I don't recall any religious controversy.

I Dream of Jeannie inspired and rivaled Bewitched.  In I Dream o fJeannie, the plot arc got tired out when Jeannie left the Major, and eventually reconciled and married him.  The only controversy I can recall is that Jeannie was too scantily clad.  With Betwitched, Barbara Eden who played the lead, grew tired of it and was going thru marriage problems.  The criticism at the time, at the end of their run, is that neither lead portrayed a Betty Friedan style feminist.  The mother-in-law in Bewitched was the closest approximation to that.

The resurgence of Christian Evangelism happened mostly in the 70s, after their runs had finished, in reaction to 60s counterculture.
Small point. Barbara Eden was the lead “Jeannie” Elizabeth Montgomery was Bewitched.
Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on September 08, 2019, 08:11:26 PM
Quote from: aitm on September 08, 2019, 07:41:20 PM
Small point. Barbara Eden was the lead “Jeannie” Elizabeth Montgomery was Bewitched.
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0888/6478/files/elizabeth-montgomery-199505196_large.jpg?7954711205183647476)
Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: Baruch on September 08, 2019, 09:27:36 PM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on September 08, 2019, 08:11:26 PM
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Before Elizabeth Montgomery played in Bewitched, she played Lizzie Borden in ... Lizzie Borden.

"Lizzie Borden had an axe.  She gave her mother 40 whacks.  When she saw what she had done.  She gave her father 41."  Someone I wouldn't piss off if I were you.
Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: Cavebear on September 11, 2019, 03:58:31 AM
Quote from: Baruch on September 07, 2019, 01:53:25 PM
He was the most Drama Queen of British politicians.  He did take politics as his "stage".

But Churchill probably did say it it even if he didn't originate it.  Sometimes put-downs are the result of being knowledgeble of them.
Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on September 11, 2019, 05:49:16 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on September 11, 2019, 03:58:31 AM
But Churchill probably did say it it even if he didn't originate it.  Sometimes put-downs are the result of being knowledgeble of them.
I suspect WSC and Lady Astor cooperated in saying quotable things.
Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: Cavebear on September 11, 2019, 06:28:38 AM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on September 11, 2019, 05:49:16 AM
I suspect WSC and Lady Astor cooperated in saying quotable things.

Yes sometimes there is a game among talented people...
Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on September 11, 2019, 06:46:26 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on September 11, 2019, 06:28:38 AM
Yes sometimes there is a game among talented people...
William Claude Dukenfield and Mary Jane "Mae" West, another couple who could trade zingers at the Olympic level.
Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: Cavebear on September 11, 2019, 07:31:30 AM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on September 11, 2019, 06:46:26 AM
William Claude Dukenfield and Mary Jane "Mae" West, another couple who could trade zingers at the Olympic level.

Oh that was good.  Without "Mae", I might not have caught it. 
Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on September 11, 2019, 07:53:18 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on September 11, 2019, 07:31:30 AM
Oh that was good.  Without "Mae", I might not have caught it. 
I was being kind. Coulda made you work for it.
Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: Cavebear on September 11, 2019, 08:12:59 AM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on September 11, 2019, 07:53:18 AM
I was being kind. Coulda made you work for it.

Yeah "Mae" was kind of a giveaway.  I might have caught "William Claude Dukenfield" as WC after some thought.  Know who Woodrow Wilson Smith is without looking it up?
Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on September 11, 2019, 08:18:37 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on September 11, 2019, 08:12:59 AM
Yeah "Mae" was kind of a giveaway.  I might have caught "William Claude Dukenfield" as WC after some thought.  Know who Woodrow Wilson Smith is without looking it up?
That would be the guy with the mommy issues.
Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: Cavebear on September 11, 2019, 08:32:37 AM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on September 11, 2019, 08:18:37 AM
That would be the guy with the mommy issues.

That is SO VERY interestingly vague.  But yes when he sees Mom he collapses...  Poor old Ted...
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Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on September 11, 2019, 09:45:38 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on September 11, 2019, 08:32:37 AM
That is SO VERY interestingly vague.  But yes when he sees Mom he collapses...  Poor old Ted...
You haven't read Time Enough for Love.  No, that wasn't a question.
Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: Cavebear on September 11, 2019, 10:10:00 AM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on September 11, 2019, 09:45:38 AM
You haven't read Time Enough for Love.  No, that wasn't a question.

Yes, I have.  And 'The Number Of The Beast'.  And so much more...
Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on September 11, 2019, 11:01:08 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on September 11, 2019, 10:10:00 AM
Yes, I have.  And 'The Number Of The Beast'.  And so much more...
Then you remember the Model T.
Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: Unbeliever on September 11, 2019, 01:48:54 PM
Quote from: Cavebear on September 11, 2019, 08:12:59 AM
Know who Woodrow Wilson Smith is without looking it up?

I was actually surprised that I knew that right away! I did look it up to confirm my guess, though. LOL
Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: Cavebear on September 11, 2019, 02:22:57 PM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on September 11, 2019, 11:01:08 AM
Then you remember the Model T.

No, I dont.  Wait, do you mean Lazarus/Ted Bronson and Mom at the fair and intending to use the removable car seats for sex?  And child Woodrow being there to interrupt the "sport"?
Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on September 11, 2019, 02:35:48 PM
Quote from: Cavebear on September 11, 2019, 02:22:57 PM
No, I dont.  Wait, do you mean Lazarus/Ted Bronson and Mom at the fair and intending to use the removable car seats for sex?  And child Woodrow being there to interrupt the "sport"?
Yep. Mommy issues.
Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: Cavebear on September 11, 2019, 02:55:40 PM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on September 11, 2019, 02:35:48 PM
Yep. Mommy issues.

Yeah he did (author, probably, and character).  Have you read Jack Chalker or Wild Cards?
Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on September 11, 2019, 03:56:17 PM
Quote from: Cavebear on September 11, 2019, 02:55:40 PM
Yeah he did (author, probably, and character).  Have you read Jack Chalker or Wild Cards?
I've only read maybe 50 Chalker books.
Title: Re: Harry Potter magic is REAL!
Post by: Cavebear on September 11, 2019, 07:03:42 PM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on September 11, 2019, 03:56:17 PM
I've only read maybe 50 Chalker books.

OMG.  But I'm starving and have to forage...  Later...