But there is a way for each person to know for sure, for themselves.
There are people around in the world today, who know and see this. Who do not rely on what others speculate about and fight over.
The truth is not simply words that can be understood. If this was all there was to it, mankind would have figured this out long ago and everybody will be free from seeking it.
It does not matter what your beliefs are about anything. They are just beliefs. The truth is not a belief. Once truth is known there's no need to believe.
To find people that can listen, is the biggest obstacle to getting through to them.
If there are any good listeners who want to know how to go about knowing!, not believing, feel free to ask and learn.
I don't do useless discussions and debates. And its pointless talking about where this info came from.
It is the correct info and that's all that matters.
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So "Nobody can tell you what the truth is," but you're here to tell us what the truth is?
Being an unbeliever means you're lost. I know what the right way is to know for yourself.
Whether you believe in anything or not makes no difference.
Both believers and unbelievers will not get to the truth by believing or not believing.
It will be pointless debating, that has, and always will go nowhere.
The truth remains the truth. Whether anybody knows it or not.
But there is a way of questioning and looking at the right things, in the right way, that can lead anybody to it.
But people have short attention spans, big egos, and a mountain of views and ideas, which they won't let go off.
Even though they carry them through life, its just as hopeless at the end as it was at the beginning.
But they still proudly debate and battle with each other.
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Welcome also. And namaste ?
Quote from: kailasera on July 18, 2019, 07:15:59 PM
I know what the right way is to know for yourself.
Well, good for you, but why should I care what you know?
Quote from: Unbeliever on July 18, 2019, 07:27:01 PM
Well, good for you, but why should I care what you know?
I know that you know that I know that you know ... (Taken from House D party interrogation).
You're assuming that I care about what you care about.
I already know that you're lost. You know that you're lost.
Told you that its hard to come across people that have the right qualities, to even get past their own views and ideas.
It makes no difference to me what becomes off you.
At your end, you will be in the same place you are now.
Go on, run along and bark your ideas where others do the same.
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Quote from: kailasera on July 18, 2019, 07:35:46 PM
I already know that you're lost. You know that you're lost.
Quote from: Dennis Diderot
Wandering in a vast forrest at night, I have only a faint light to guide me. A stranger appears and says to me: 'My friend, you should blow out your candle in order to find your way more clearly.' This stranger is a theologian.
Are you a theologian, kailasera?
Knowing the truth is the end of beliefs, ideas, notions and views about what's truth.
You can squirm and wriggle all you like. That's not what I want.
I just offer the way to know for yourself.
You must want to know how.
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You're a talker. Listening to talkers makes me thirsty.
It's okay to be a talker that knows. Not a talked that doesn't.
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All you have to do is let go off your pride. If you really are interested in learning. Don't wriggle and squirm.
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Enlighten us, then, Oh great teacher!
That's not humbling yourself. That's showing more of your pride. Go down on all fours and bark like a dog. At least don't dress it up as something smart.
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Oh, I wouldn't dress anything up - I'm a nudist.
If anybody worthy comes around. Will respond. Until then find some other posts to blow hot air in.
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Quote from: kailasera on July 18, 2019, 07:35:46 PM
You're assuming that I care about what you care about.
I already know that you're lost. You know that you're lost.
Told you that its hard to come across people that have the right qualities, to even get past their own views and ideas.
It makes no difference to me what becomes off you.
At your end, you will be in the same place you are now.
Go on, run along and bark your ideas where others do the same.
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G-d is poetical self licking ice cream cone?
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Quote from: kailasera on July 18, 2019, 08:04:54 PM
All you have to do is let go off your pride. If you really are interested in learning. Don't wriggle and squirm.
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Been there, done that.
More ego. That's why westerners stay stuck. Can't even admit to not knowing and wanting to learn.
It's easy to do that. But gets nowhere.
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There's nowhere to get to. It's nothing, all the way down.
Quote from: kailasera on July 18, 2019, 08:25:03 PM
If anybody worthy comes around. Will respond.
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Am I surrounded by people that want to teach me? Go ahead and speak then. If you can't ask for the right way, spill your sewage here.
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Lego my ego ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvZgAEiQXgk
The truth is performative, not declarative. Consider yourself performed to.
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If only she had attempted to lift the hammer, then she would have known she was worthy. BTW, the Cap'n only pretended he couldn't lift it because he didn't want to show off. And yes, I know I am derailing the thread. It's not like this guy has anything interesting to say.
Nobody asked what I wanted to tell yourll. Because the guys here already know everything. That's why they will be here barking at each other long after I'm gone.
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Quote from: kailasera on July 18, 2019, 08:59:54 PM
Nobody asked what I wanted to tell yourll. Because the guys here already know everything. That's why they will be here barking at each other long after I'm gone.
If you have something to say, then spit it out. Stop beating around the bush. If you expect people to consider you wise, then prove it.
Seriously, another troll who sounds pretty much like Arik?!??!
Quote from: josephpalazzo on July 18, 2019, 09:16:21 PM
Seriously, another troll who sounds pretty much like Arik?!??!
Arik loves to make claims he can't support. This guy hasn't even made a single claim. He just says he has hidden knowledge, then begs us to plead with him to teach us.
Is that how westerners show humility and request things. When its something as life changing as the truth, this is not how it should be asked for or explained.
The first step is to admit that nobody here knows anything really worthwhile. And even if I really know something, its not going to be offered to proud, arrogant and every unworthy person that thinks they will get it.
Request it sincerely. Know your own failings. I'm not your mother that will run to you just because yourll act up.
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The real truth, and the way to that truth exists. It's nothing close to what yourll know so far.
Every fanatic of whatever belief system will say that they are right. This is not a belief system. And its not for those types of fanatics.
Even if you subscribe to being an atheist. It still is just views, just ideas, just your own take on things. It's not the truth.
The truth is what it is. And if you don't meet somebody that at least has a glimpse of it, and what to look for to get to it. It will always be an endless search being discussed with others on the same endless search.
The people that know want everybody to know. It's no secret. But people that don't know, don't believe that others can know.
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Quote from: Blackleaf on July 18, 2019, 08:51:56 PM
If only she had attempted to lift the hammer, then she would have known she was worthy. BTW, the Cap'n only pretended he couldn't lift it because he didn't want to show off. And yes, I know I am derailing the thread. It's not like this guy has anything interesting to say.
She could be feeling inadequate despite being fully worthy in actually. That's the most straightforward explanation. Also, the (remote) possibility of knowing for a fact that she's not worthy would crush her emotionally.
My interpretation is that she is fully worthy but doesn't need external validation nor the burden of an Asgardian leadership role thrust upon her. She has enough to deal with already. And like Cap, she doesn't want to steal Thor's thunder, pun absolutely intended.
Quote from: kailasera on July 18, 2019, 09:31:23 PM
Is that how westerners show humility and request things. When its something as life changing as the truth, this is not how it should be asked for or explained.
The first step is to admit that nobody here knows anything really worthwhile. And even if I really know something, its not going to be offered to proud, arrogant and every unworthy person that thinks they will get it.
Request it sincerely. Know your own failings. I'm not your mother that will run to you just because yourll act up.
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Why should we ask you for anything? You're the one who came here, claiming to know stuff. Yet you won't say anything until we beg you to enlighten us? WTF? Are you high?
Forgive me. Although there are quick ways to do this. It takes an exceptional person to pull that off.
Communicating from different levels of understanding of the truth is not simple.
And communicating to people that can't believe that the real thing is about to be brought to them finally, is another thing to factor in.
I will start with a simple question to get things going.
If you exist where your mind and body are right now, that's always where the truth will arise. It needs you to be present.
If you never exist, then the truth will not matter and there will be no need to look for it.
You have been there always with yourself. The lie that hides the truth is what every person believes about themselves.
What part of each person's body and mind knows what it is? Whichever part or parts that is. That is what they will be.
It's not the brain. The brain does not know it exists. Or that it is owned.
So what is it in people that is them, and knows of its own existence? Remember, if this thing does not know anything, it can't be what they are.
I'm sure this should be enough to get some of the know it alls going. Still think I'm stringing yourll along?
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Yap, yap, yap---spew, spew, spew--jabber, jabber, jabber--another hot air balloon, full of ego and empty air. Why are you here? Troll.................
Quote from: kailasera on July 18, 2019, 11:06:09 PM
Forgive me. Although there are quick ways to do this. It takes an exceptional person to pull that off.
Communicating from different levels of understanding of the truth is not simple.
So you think you're operating from a higher level of understanding than us? My, aren't we full of ourselves?
Quote from: kailasera on July 18, 2019, 11:06:09 PMAnd communicating to people that can't believe that the real thing is about to be brought to them finally, is another thing to factor in.
When presented with new information, I assign it credibility based on its source. Those with the proper credentials, such as a degree, are assigned higher levels of credibility. Those with practice in a specific field are also assigned higher credibility when they speak on their field of expertise. But of course, there are also subjects that aren't so straight forward, which are left to debate. In those cases, the strength of one's arguments are used to build credibility. But you've just strolled in, claiming to know...something. While I can hazard a guess, the subject you claim to be an expert on hasn't even been established yet. So if we seem skeptical and dismissive, yer damn right we are. As we should be. You can't just show up and expert us to worship the ground you walk on.
Quote from: kailasera on July 18, 2019, 11:06:09 PMI will start with a simple question to get things going.
If you exist where your mind and body are right now, that's always where the truth will arise. It needs you to be present.
So basically, "I think, therefor I am." Heard it before, but this isn't a question.
Quote from: kailasera on July 18, 2019, 11:06:09 PMIf you never exist, then the truth will not matter and there will be no need to look for it.
Still not a question... But I'm starting to see a pattern here. You're starting to sound more like Arik.
Quote from: kailasera on July 18, 2019, 11:06:09 PMYou have been there always with yourself. The lie that hides the truth is what every person believes about themselves.
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Quote from: kailasera on July 18, 2019, 11:06:09 PMWhat part of each person's body and mind knows what it is? Whichever part or parts that is. That is what they will be.
Finally, an actual question. Easy one. It's the brain.
Quote from: kailasera on July 18, 2019, 11:06:09 PMIt's not the brain.
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If it is the brain, why didn't you know that that's what you are when you are born. Why would you be unaware that there is even a brain in your head, until you see a brain and learn what it is?
As I said. It's not the brain. If your toenail knows what it is, then I will accept that you are your brain.
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Quote from: kailasera on July 18, 2019, 11:37:42 PM
If it is the brain, why didn't you know that that's what you are when you are born. Why would you be unaware that there is even a brain in your head, until you see a brain and learn what it is?
Because we need to be taught things to understand them? Obviously. Did you come out of the womb knowing you had a soul?
Quote from: kailasera on July 18, 2019, 11:37:42 PMAs I said. It's not the brain. If your toenail knows what it is, then I will accept that you are your brain.
My brain knows what my toenail is, just like it understands what a brain is. You know, because the brain is the thing that thinks? I'm sure you think you're making a whole lot of sense, but you're babbling like an idiot.
Now let me ask you a question. If I hit your hard enough on the back of the head with a shovel, what would happen to your consciousness? Would you...lose it until your brain recovered? How about if I hit you just as hard on your toenail? Would your consciousness be lost then?
If the brain is physical. And thoughts mental, can they both know of the others existence?
Air, light and space can coexist. Does that mean that they know what they are? Or what the other is?
It's people that can't think that look for degrees to measure themselves against each other.
I heard that education dumbs down people. Makes them unable to make the shift from their subservience to authority.
People that know this, realised that up until they saw it, everything that came before from whatever source, became irrelevant and useless.
This is upping the game beyond what most of the human race can ever dream of achieving.
Sit there and filter the information in dumbed down mode. There will be those that can pick it up.
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"If the brain is physical. And thoughts mental, can they both know of the others existence?" - kailasera
Are you Rene Descartes? Are you aware of the long history of these questions?
Nope I don't follow dry thinkers. Why rely on second hand information when you can know for yourself.
Focus on your brain or other people's brain. It becomes obvious that its just like any other part of the body.
It is not a thing, being, entity, soul or whatever else that has the capacity to know.
When people are unconscious, the brain is still there and functioning. But there is no knowing of anything in that time.
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Quote from: kailasera on July 19, 2019, 07:02:20 AM
Nope I don't follow dry thinkers. Why rely on second hand information when you can know for yourself.
Focus on your brain or other people's brain. It becomes obvious that its just like any other part of the body.
It is not a thing, being, entity, soul or whatever else that has the capacity to know.
When people are unconscious, the brain is still there and functioning. But there is no knowing of anything in that time.
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Rene wasn't dry. Impossible. He was French.
You overrate consciousness. Like an iceberg, all the good stuff in man happens in the unconscious.
I say dry thinker. What's meant is that people are used to looking at things and then using thoughts to analyse the sense experience.
The existence of things does not depend on thinking and proliferating about it.
A child can see and taste an orange without having the thoughts about what an orange is, or how taste works.
There's no concepts, ideas, views and beliefs about the orange. Or even the notion that its called an orange.
Language is not needed to know the truth. We only need language to communicate. But we got so used to it that we try to use it to make sense of the world and ourselves by using it in our thinking.
We call a tree a tree and think that the tree knows what we call it. Or that the tree is aware that we exist and it has its own separate existence.
The brain is the same. Whether its matter that's inside us or outside, it has no clue what it is.
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The truth is known already. Just because you don't know or understand it, does not mean that others don't.
People that do know it completely are finished with their work.
Those that don't know that it exists or how to go about getting to it, have not even begun the real journey to it.
The first step is to hear it from somebody that has heard it from somebody else that has found it.
And its a step by step unveiling, for each person to catch on to it and start their own investigation.
Like a bloodhound, that has just picked up on a scent that it knows will lead it in the right direction.
No acknowledgement will be needed from any scientist or philosopher that this is right. Because it stands up to any testing that can be performed on it.
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I am the truth, the light, and the creator. I have created things even I cannot understand. I have created truths that not even I can know. Pay attention to the man who carries the torch of knowledge. You will know him by his words. But beware the charlatan who comes to you in bare feet, for he knows not of what he speaks.
Elastics 7:19
The reason for mingling with atheists is because people that have already subscribed to any religion have little to no room to manoeuvre.
Like programmed computers, only outputting what's been input.
No disrespect needs to be shown to any prophet, Messiah or god for the truth to be given.
And any religion that squeezes a person's own better judgement out, should be pointed out.
It's like a good parent that wants only the best for their kid. And points them to what they themselves found the greatest joy from.
The intention is not a bad one. But if that child is presented with anything better, it will still stick to what the parent taught it, purely because the parent said that this is the best, and there's nothing else out there that's better.
That leaves both the parent and child reaching lifes end thinking they have the best, and nobody else knows otherwise.
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Quote from: kailasera on July 19, 2019, 09:55:57 AM
The reason for mingling with atheists is because people that have already subscribed to any religion have little to no room to manoeuvre.
Like programmed computers, only outputting what's been input.
No disrespect needs to be shown to any prophet, Messiah or god for the truth to be given.
And any religion that squeezes a person's own better judgement out, should be pointed out.
It's like a good parent that wants only the best for their kid. And points them to what they themselves found the greatest joy from.
The intention is not a bad one. But if that child is presented with anything better, it will still stick to what the parent taught it, purely because the parent said that this is the best, and there's nothing else out there that's better.
That leaves both the parent and child reaching lifes end thinking they have the best, and nobody else knows otherwise.
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And so say snake oil salesmen from the beginning of time! You make judgments and pronouncements from out of thin air. You offer on evidence, no facts, no nothing. Are we to drop down to our bellies and worship you as a prophet? Seems that is what you demand--if we want to know the 'truth'. The 'Truth' is that you are as empty as a deflated balloon. You are simply a seller of 'truth' to any and all who will listen. That's how your kind love to fleece the sheeple. The "Truth" is (and you need to pay attention) that there is no 'Truth' except for those who are trying to deceive for any number of reasons. You, my friend, are basically a charlatan and a deceiver--and most likely a troll.
Quote from: kailasera on July 19, 2019, 12:18:19 AM
If the brain is physical. And thoughts mental, can they both know of the others existence?
Air, light and space can coexist. Does that mean that they know what they are? Or what the other is?
https://youtu.be/soXMCkoWfQo
Quote from: kailasera on July 19, 2019, 12:18:19 AMIt's people that can't think that look for degrees to measure themselves against each other.
Ah. So people who compare themselves to others and think they're superior are incapable of thought. Gotcha.
Quote from: kailasera on July 19, 2019, 12:18:19 AMI heard that education dumbs down people. Makes them unable to make the shift from their subservience to authority.
People that know this, realised that up until they saw it, everything that came before from whatever source, became irrelevant and useless.
This is upping the game beyond what most of the human race can ever dream of achieving.
Sit there and filter the information in dumbed down mode. There will be those that can pick it up.
Thank you for admitting you're incapable of thought. I already knew that, of course, but it's nice of you to confirm it.
I like to watch individuals from modern societies, puffed up with pride in their limited understanding of reality.
Trying hard to cover up their lack of knowledge by using language, they assume that only they understand.
Wriggling and barking back, like that is going to help them see what others do.
We know and see how yourll become a slave to authority. Your perceptions have been provided by the very education yourll glorify.
The people that know, and who really can lead your'll to a place of real understanding and wisdom are ignored.
Instead, people that are considered inferior, are worshipped by you. Placed on your heads and paraded around. While they defecate and urinate all over your'll.
The scientists themselves are clueless on what the mind or consciousness is.
It is no surprise that any better understanding will come from the lost people lower down here.
Before any more is said, there has to be an acknowledgement that science and philosophy, and all here, don't have any worthy answers or methods that go far.
Retaliating without owning up to the blindness wastes all our time.
We are not apes in a zoo banging at our chests for the bigger bunch of bananas.
So settle down, make your views public and have it scrutinised.
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If you look into the abyss of arrogance, then the abyss is also looking back into you.
Quote from: kailasera on July 18, 2019, 09:31:23 PM
Is that how westerners show humility and request things. When its something as life changing as the truth, this is not how it should be asked for or explained.
The first step is to admit that nobody here knows anything really worthwhile. And even if I really know something, its not going to be offered to proud, arrogant and every unworthy person that thinks they will get it.
Request it sincerely. Know your own failings. I'm not your mother that will run to you just because yourll act up.
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Can't you tell yet that no one here gives the least little fuck what you have to say?
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Quote from: kailasera on July 19, 2019, 01:12:25 PMThe scientists themselves are clueless on what the mind or consciousness is.
Err, no. Science has a very good idea of what consciousness is and where it comes from. And judging from how you refused to answer my question about what happens to your consciousness when you're hit hard on the head, I think you know that. Human consciousness is an example of emergence (Google this term; it is important), of countless neurons firing in the brain. I don't know why I'm bothering to explain this to you, though, since I know you'll ignore all this and continue spouting your drug fueled nonsense.
Quote from: kailasera on July 19, 2019, 01:12:25 PMBefore any more is said, there has to be an acknowledgement that science and philosophy, and all here, don't have any worthy answers or methods that go far.
Really? Pray tell, by what means did you post this? Did you do it by mere brain power, or did you use a cell phone or computer? Science has a long list of accomplishments. Our modern world couldn't exist without it. What has been accomplished with your "truth?"
Quote from: kailasera on July 19, 2019, 01:12:25 PMSo settle down, make your views public and have it scrutinised.
Says the guy who refused to tell us his ideas until we begged him to enlighten us. Follow your own advice. Stop with this mystery bullshit and talk straight.
Quote from: Blackleaf on July 18, 2019, 09:24:39 PM
Arik loves to make claims he can't support. This guy hasn't even made a single claim. He just says he has hidden knowledge, then begs us to plead with him to teach us.
If he's not Arik, he's from the same family - only one who knows the truth, we are all dummies - when questioned we get a lot of BS- on second questioning, we get repeats. You kind of know you'll never get a decent discussion, just verbal turds.
I'm outta here. Go luck with this chew toy...:-)
My friends. We are a family. I am big brother. I bring only peace and love and most importantly, the truth that will set yourll free.
Do not be discouraged. We are here to raise yourll up.
The truth is that man has been here ever since the world was created, billions of years ago. This has been kept secret from you by your own institutions.
Our ancestors were not apes. The technology what you think is modern, is actually ancient knowledge.
And although it looks like modern scientists were the great founders of all things bright and beautiful, it was all from the same historic pool of old science.
If just one organisation was seen to be pushing out amazing tech, it would be suspicious to the public. But have many different people bringing the scraps to light was more covert.
Any way tech and science is secondary to what knowledge and what people are really out here. To us, there's no fascination with who has a flush toilets and Netflix.
There are more important things to know, things that will change everything for each person that sees it, totally.
I don't ask that you believe this. But there is such knowledge around. Which you can use yourself. But if I just point you to it without any preparation, it can be damaging to you from the beginning.
It's not what you think you will find, that's what makes it more exceptional. There was no great thinker outside this group, human or otherwise, that knew this.
It beats anything that people imagine to be the greatest thing ever. After knowing this, nothing else needs to be known. All seeking comes to an end.
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What the hell are you selling? Whatever it is, I'm not buying it.
Quote from: kailasera on July 19, 2019, 04:21:28 PM
All seeking comes to an end.
But the seeking is the fun part. You would take that away from us?
This is not for sale, and was ordered by the leader to be sent out and given freely, so all human beings could benefit and break free from the prison they find themselves in.
But not everybody has the capacity to see much past their own ideas and views. The very thing that becomes the bars around their minds.
Even if the most superior knowledge is given freely and openly, it will be rejected and avoided if its not introduced properly.
This is not something I'm able to do. It rests on everybody here to firstly accept that this could be a reality. That there really is the highest possible thing to ever know, right here, right now.
Even if there are billions of others all over the world, the lucky few here will be the ones, to have the chance to rise beyond the limits that have been reached by 99.999% of all humans in history.
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Well, I've already figured out the truth - that there is no truth. So any truth you think you have is either mistaken or it's a lie.
Quote from: Unbeliever on July 19, 2019, 04:53:15 PM
Well, I've already figured out the truth - that there is no truth. So any truth you think you have is either mistaken or it's a lie.
This sentence is false.
Yes indeed, this sentence is a lie.
:-P
There is the real truth. It concerns every person here and in the world. If you don't want to know what it is. It will still be true. If you do see it for yourself, it still will be true.
Whether human beings know about it or not, it always will be true.
Things will always be as they are. But for anybody that doesn't adjust their perceptions of reality, to sync with reality, will never be free, will never know for sure how things work. And will always be relying on memory as their primary understanding of the world they are in, and themselves.
Atheists are more open to the possibility that things should not just be accepted at face value. This is something valuable in this last stage of wandering along, until sheer brilliance appears amongst us that can use direct that free mind to the end.
The last stage is upon you. It's your choice that you make right now, that can either put you on that path to the end, or fall away back into the dimension of endless searching to infinity.
There are people that want you to know the truth for yourself. Truth that does not need the approval from any other authority stamped on it to authenticate it.
It's the end of the search. The end starts becoming visible even before reaching it.
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You seem to be saying an awful lot without saying anything at all.
Wait. I understand that the west attributes value to price.
For all interested parties that want access to this ancient highest knowledge, a fee will be charged.
As its the real deal, unlike the secret. Which people wanting a quick buck from the foolish masses charge.
This will be just $999999999999 US, for a whopping one month access. Use the code "Icommit" on checkout for a $5 saving on your next purchase.
And remember, we value you as a human being, hence the discount, so you can be excited to buy again next time.
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We search time in space for finding spacetime. Everything started at the Big Bang, there's no before, before the Beginning because that's like north of the North Pole, where every direction is south. Human beings are finite at the expansion along of the universe's expansion because of Dark Energy generates an undetectable field that repels baryonic matter in large stellar structures. The truth is what reality we can detect and that which is undetectable is the same as not existing. Ours is a narrative of language where we get the illusions of causality, time and structure, when just at the atomic scale atoms consist mainly of emptiness, causal irreversibility and timelessness. Particle-virtual particle pairs are generated everywhere there exists a sufficient vacuum for them to pop into existence and almost immediately annihilate. Authority authentication is a false narrative explanation of default position explanations not necessary to take into account. This is a lie perpetuated by theistic (special) interests that are birthed out from desire for power by weak and downtrodden agents desiring to subjugate the able and strong with their nefarious whims. Infinity is a mathematical construct not found in nature so far as we have looked, although black hole singularities, if they exist in the possible quantum weirdness of the center of black holes, are contenders for infinite dense space. Brains exhibit localized functions, each specific to each area of the brain; take one function out and that function ceases to function - tautology. Truth is just a fancy word for humans to relate ideas they have that is correlating to reality as we experience it in middle world. Tools are needed to probe deeper. The planetary atomic model illustration is false. Seek and you will seek indefinitely. Find and you shall stop seeking.
Well before I fall asleep, its this kind of bs that wows the public. It's fictional and poetic. Excited the imagination but falls flat on its face when the next latest modern advances takes place.
Where they figure out that they were wrong about the last time and this time its cutting edge.
The truth doesn't need a fancy short skirt to impress.
Nothing else is needed besides you, body and mind.
If you can read and understand average English, and have an attention span and discipline that's also average, you're in the game to end all games.
Philosophers, scientists and any other expert in any other field won't be impressive to you.
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Yet you're using an expensive phone to spew your rhetoric. Funny that.
My friend. My phone is under a hundred dollars. And I got the one that has the waterproofing etc so it lasts me a long time.
I see that the forum rules prevents me from sharing any links. So unfortunately we have to leave things as they were before I joined.
There's no real interest here any way. I expected at least a few tools in the shed to still be sharp.
The human race devolves as time passes. Not the current scientific theories that lie.
All the best for the future. Once I'm gone. I'm gone for good.
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Let the door hit you in the ass on your way out.
Quote from: kailasera on July 19, 2019, 06:22:19 PM
My friend. My phone is under a hundred dollars. And I got the one that has the waterproofing etc so it lasts me a long time.
I see that the forum rules prevents me from sharing any links. So unfortunately we have to leave things as they were before I joined.
There's no real interest here any way. I expected at least a few tools in the shed to still be sharp.
The human race devolves as time passes. Not the current scientific theories that lie.
All the best for the future. Once I'm gone. I'm gone for good.
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My point is that you're using a smartphone, an engineering feat powered by the progress and gains of natural science knowledge, to deny ... science.
Quote from: kailasera on July 19, 2019, 06:22:19 PM
My friend. My phone is under a hundred dollars. And I got the one that has the waterproofing etc so it lasts me a long time.
I see that the forum rules prevents me from sharing any links. So unfortunately we have to leave things as they were before I joined.
There's no real interest here any way. I expected at least a few tools in the shed to still be sharp.
The human race devolves as time passes. Not the current scientific theories that lie.
All the best for the future. Once I'm gone. I'm gone for good.
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You can't leave quick enough. Don't let the door hit you in the ass (that you be your head, wouldn't it) on the way out!
At first, I thought this guy was just another idiot, but he went full on troll there at the end.
Quote from: kailasera on July 19, 2019, 01:12:25 PM
I like to watch individuals from modern societies, puffed up with pride in their limited understanding of reality.
With a mirror?
Said I would not be back. But if there is anybody here that may be ready for it. It will be a loss if all that was needed was the link. Email me if you think it could be something that was meant to get to you.
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Quote from: Mike Cl on July 18, 2019, 11:15:59 PM
Yap, yap, yap---spew, spew, spew--jabber, jabber, jabber--another hot air balloon, full of ego and empty air. Why are you here? Troll.................
x2
Quote from: kailasera on July 19, 2019, 06:22:19 PM
Once I'm gone. I'm gone for good.
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tut tut..a promise is a promise...let me help you out with dat!
Quote from: kailasera on July 18, 2019, 07:15:59 PM
Being an unbeliever means you're lost. I know what the right way is to know for yourself.
Whether you believe in anything or not makes no difference.
Both believers and unbelievers will not get to the truth by believing or not believing.
It will be pointless debating, that has, and always will go nowhere.
The truth remains the truth. Whether anybody knows it or not.
But there is a way of questioning and looking at the right things, in the right way, that can lead anybody to it.
But people have short attention spans, big egos, and a mountain of views and ideas, which they won't let go off.
Even though they carry them through life, its just as hopeless at the end as it was at the beginning.
But they still proudly debate and battle with each other.
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Your first post made some sense; this one not so much.
Quote from: kailasera on July 19, 2019, 05:14:28 PM
There is the real truth. It concerns every person here and in the world. If you don't want to know what it is. It will still be true. If you do see it for yourself, it still will be true.
Whether human beings know about it or not, it always will be true.
Things will always be as they are. But for anybody that doesn't adjust their perceptions of reality, to sync with reality, will never be free, will never know for sure how things work. And will always be relying on memory as their primary understanding of the world they are in, and themselves.
Atheists are more open to the possibility that things should not just be accepted at face value. This is something valuable in this last stage of wandering along, until sheer brilliance appears amongst us that can use direct that free mind to the end.
The last stage is upon you. It's your choice that you make right now, that can either put you on that path to the end, or fall away back into the dimension of endless searching to infinity.
There are people that want you to know the truth for yourself. Truth that does not need the approval from any other authority stamped on it to authenticate it.
It's the end of the search. The end starts becoming visible even before reaching it.
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That is semantically null. I revoke my original "like" as a failure to understand the nonsense you were getting at.
I initially thought he was using poetry to spice his content. Turned out it was all spice no content.