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Title: Celebrating French Revolution (against the EU)
Post by: Baruch on July 15, 2019, 11:22:48 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIxOl1EraXA

Yes, Vichy France will soon fall, and the E Germans Gestapo will be kicked out?  President Macron was booed at this years Bastille Day.  Wonder why?

In August 1939, before war started, Joseph Stalin cut a deal with Adolph Hitler, over Poland.  And told his communist cells throughout the world, to support Germany.  Thus the French nation and army, were fatally compromised (in a way they weren't in 1914) by international socialism.  This is how it should have gone in 1939 ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4zrBPcXq8E

The only French unit, that fought well in 1940, was led by DeGaulle.  But ... he wasn't socialist, was he.

The E German Women's Olympic Swim Team mustn't be given a victory again!
Title: Re: Celebrating French Revolution (against the EU)
Post by: Cavebear on July 20, 2019, 08:38:34 AM
Quote from: Baruch on July 15, 2019, 11:22:48 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIxOl1EraXA

Yes, Vichy France will soon fall, and the E Germans Gestapo will be kicked out?  President Macron was booed at this years Bastille Day.  Wonder why?

In August 1939, before war started, Joseph Stalin cut a deal with Adolph Hitler, over Poland.  And told his communist cells throughout the world, to support Germany.  Thus the French nation and army, were fatally compromised (in a way they weren't in 1914) by international socialism.  This is how it should have gone in 1939 ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4zrBPcXq8E

The only French unit, that fought well in 1940, was led by DeGaulle.  But ... he wasn't socialist, was he.

The E German Women's Olympic Swim Team mustn't be given a victory again!

"Fight?" they said, "But we're French"!

And I'm mostly French...
Title: Re: Celebrating French Revolution (against the EU)
Post by: Baruch on July 20, 2019, 11:42:20 AM
As Shiranu would point out, we oversimplify French history with our Anglophone prejudice.
Title: Re: Celebrating French Revolution (against the EU)
Post by: Cavebear on July 20, 2019, 12:06:50 PM
Quote from: Baruch on July 20, 2019, 11:42:20 AM
As Shiranu would point out, we oversimplify French history with our Anglophone prejudice.

What you mean "we" Brit-boy"?

Actually, I'm about 1/4 true Southern Franc, 1/4 true Parisian Franc and the other half Viking and technically "English" because that's where they all ended up, LOL!  Which is why any DNA test that says you are English (or by extension) American is a fake...  LOL!
Title: Re: Celebrating French Revolution (against the EU)
Post by: Baruch on July 20, 2019, 04:02:03 PM
Quote from: Cavebear on July 20, 2019, 12:06:50 PM
What you mean "we" Brit-boy"?

Actually, I'm about 1/4 true Southern Franc, 1/4 true Parisian Franc and the other half Viking and technically "English" because that's where they all ended up, LOL!  Which is why any DNA test that says you are English (or by extension) American is a fake...  LOL!

~1/2 Franco/German, ~1/2 British/Irish here.  With maybe a little cheese Danish thrown in ;-)

Further conventional genealogical research ...

Definitely some Danish with a tiny bit of Swede.  Definitely NW German, with some Dutch and some Swiss.  And a tiny bit of French.  I am targeting my Swiss roots (Mennonite) as the ultimate source of my Jewishness, since I regard their founder, in Holland, to have been a Jewish mule.  More clarity on the British/Irish ... definitely new people coming in, in the mid-19th century.  But on top of existing British/Irish already here.  One of my German ancestors may have even been a Hessian.
Title: Re: Celebrating French Revolution (against the EU)
Post by: Mr.Obvious on July 28, 2019, 02:18:24 AM
Quote from: Baruch on July 20, 2019, 04:02:03 PM
~1/2 Franco/German, ~1/2 British/Irish here.  With maybe a little cheese Danish thrown in ;-)

1/1 flemish, with maybe one of my great-gret-granparents having done the naughty with a spanjard or someone from Portugal or something.
Title: Re: Celebrating French Revolution (against the EU)
Post by: Baruch on July 28, 2019, 07:48:31 AM
Quote from: Mr.Obvious on July 28, 2019, 02:18:24 AM
1/1 flemish, with maybe one of my great-gret-granparents having done the naughty with a spanjard or someone from Portugal or something.

Flemings as in ... French that got away from Louis XIV Lebensraum?
Title: Re: Celebrating French Revolution (against the EU)
Post by: Mr.Obvious on July 28, 2019, 10:14:12 AM
Quote from: Baruch on July 28, 2019, 07:48:31 AM
Flemings as in ... French that got away from Louis XIV Lebensraum?

As in flemish.
Title: Re: Celebrating French Revolution (against the EU)
Post by: Baruch on July 28, 2019, 10:38:12 AM
Quote from: Mr.Obvious on July 28, 2019, 10:14:12 AM
As in flemish.

That doesn't sound nice in English ;-)  Sounds like y'all have the flux.
Title: Re: Celebrating French Revolution (against the EU)
Post by: Mr.Obvious on July 28, 2019, 06:48:06 PM
Quote from: Baruch on July 28, 2019, 10:38:12 AM
That doesn't sound nice in English ;-)  Sounds like y'all have the flux.

That's the english-speaking population's problem, not ours :p
Title: Re: Celebrating French Revolution (against the EU)
Post by: Munch on July 28, 2019, 07:34:44 PM
Eleanor of Aquitaine was my ancestor, and was queen consort of France, so I win at the french ancestral traits game.
Title: Re: Celebrating French Revolution (against the EU)
Post by: Baruch on July 28, 2019, 10:49:35 PM
Quote from: Munch on July 28, 2019, 07:34:44 PM
Eleanor of Aquitaine was my ancestor, and was queen consort of France, so I win at the french ancestral traits game.

Your moobs aren't big enough yet, to be Queen of France.
Title: Re: Celebrating French Revolution (against the EU)
Post by: Draconic Aiur on July 29, 2019, 03:10:42 AM
Quote from: Munch on July 28, 2019, 07:34:44 PM
Eleanor of Aquitaine was my ancestor, and was queen consort of France, so I win at the french ancestral traits game.

Yeah I can't compare. My Jasmine blood is unknown to me.

And it's really strange because Jasmine is Persian not French.

But my DNA test and Family info says they were from France.
Title: Re: Celebrating French Revolution (against the EU)
Post by: Mr.Obvious on July 29, 2019, 04:09:30 AM
Quote from: Draconic Aiur on July 29, 2019, 03:10:42 AM
Yeah I can't compare. My Jasmine blood is unknown to me.

And it's really strange because Jasmine is Persian not French.

But my DNA test and Family info says they were from France.

Iffen you happen to have a French last name?
I always find it amusing to meet someone with a French or Dutch last name. Sometimes they don't know where it heralds from not what it means.
Title: Re: Celebrating French Revolution (against the EU)
Post by: Draconic Aiur on July 29, 2019, 04:14:23 AM
Jasmine is from my ancestors on my mom's side.
Title: Re: Celebrating French Revolution (against the EU)
Post by: Mr.Obvious on July 29, 2019, 05:43:16 AM
Quote from: Draconic Aiur on July 29, 2019, 04:14:23 AM
Jasmine is from my ancestors on my mom's side.

Ah Kay, didn't réalisé Jasmine was à last name.
Title: Re: Celebrating French Revolution (against the EU)
Post by: Baruch on July 29, 2019, 05:50:43 AM
Quote from: Draconic Aiur on July 29, 2019, 03:10:42 AM
Yeah I can't compare. My Jasmine blood is unknown to me.

And it's really strange because Jasmine is Persian not French.

But my DNA test and Family info says they were from France.

Languedoc (S France) specifically.  Associated with people who grew the plant .. perfumers.

https://www.houseofnames.com/Jasmine-family-crest

Many species grown in many places

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jasmine

Can be used as an additive to tea.

The name is Latin, from Arabic, from Persian.  It is commonly a personal name for Persian girls.

Languedoc is the earliest civilized part of France, going back to the Greek colony at Marseille.
Title: Re: Celebrating French Revolution (against the EU)
Post by: Draconic Aiur on July 29, 2019, 07:05:11 AM
Ah ok.
Title: Re: Celebrating French Revolution (against the EU)
Post by: Baruch on July 29, 2019, 09:04:12 AM
Quote from: Draconic Aiur on July 29, 2019, 07:05:11 AM
Ah ok.

My Ex's grandmother, when she came from Italy, thru Ellis Island, claimed her profession was "perfumer".
Title: Re: Celebrating French Revolution (against the EU)
Post by: Cavebear on August 01, 2019, 05:02:23 AM
Actually, Baruch, "Languedoc literally means "language of oc". ... The Romance languages that were spoken in the south of France are collectively called langues d'oc or occitan, as opposed to the langues d'oil, which were spoken in the north of France."  Your French ancestors may have been "perfumers" (as mine were tailors), but that has nothing to do with "Languedoc".