From 2019 ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oY3u-G25RQs
This man's speech to Hungary 6 months ago, explained the entire "permanent interest" foreign policy, that happens no matter who the US President is. Aka the Dark State. The US only has two allies in Europe ... Poland and Romania. And to protect these forward positions against Russia, we will got to war. Not to defend Ukraine or take back Crimea. He mentions a secret truce that stabilized the situation in Ukraine, after 2014. But that is unstable. Byelorus is also unstable. The US is not expecting any assistance to defend E Europe, from any other European country, we expect interference.
From 2016 ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-ut15uwXvg
Quote from: Baruch on July 14, 2019, 04:15:41 AM
From 2019 ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oY3u-G25RQs
This man's speech to Hungary 6 months ago, explained the entire "permanent interest" foreign policy, that happens no matter who the US President is. Aka the Dark State. The US only has two allies in Europe ... Poland and Romania. And to protect these forward positions against Russia, we will got to war. Not to defend Ukraine or take back Crimea. He mentions a secret truce that stabilized the situation in Ukraine, after 2014. But that is unstable. Byelorus is also unstable. The US is not expecting any assistance to defend E Europe, from any other European country, we expect interference.
From 2016 ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-ut15uwXvg
It will unless the US gets its act together...
This was the guy/post I was referring to earlier. Glad you found it first.
Yes I know that for you, it will always be 1969, with the US ready to stop the Warsaw Pact in the Fulda Gap.
Quote from: Baruch on July 20, 2019, 11:43:35 AM
This was the guy/post I was referring to earlier. Glad you found it first.
Yes I know that for you, it will always be 1969, with the US ready to stop the Warsaw Pact in the Fulda Gap.
Oops, I usually delete links from posts...
No, for me it will always be the day JFK was killed. I remember looking up at the PS speaker box. It was light brown, about 12" square with rounded edges and a black speaker in front. Funny how you remember things like that. We were all sent home (we all walked or biked to school and back) and all the adults were so quiet.
Quote from: Cavebear on July 20, 2019, 12:00:03 PM
Oops, I usually delete links from posts...
No, for me it will always be the day JFK was killed. I remember looking up at the PS speaker box. It was light brown, about 12" square with rounded edges and a black speaker in front. Funny how you remember things like that. We were all sent home (we all walked or biked to school and back) and all the adults were so quiet.
Yes, that defined our age group. I remember when the Soviet Union re-occupied Czechoslovakia in 1968.
Quote from: Baruch on July 20, 2019, 04:00:51 PM
Yes, that defined our age group. I remember when the Soviet Union re-occupied Czechoslovakia in 1968.
That was an evil day. There was no meaningful reply the US could offer. A symbolic one might have helped. But "those damn French" (I'm one, sort of) had us locked up in Vietnam by then. An altogether unworkable situation...
Quote from: Cavebear on July 20, 2019, 04:19:24 PM
That was an evil day. There was no meaningful reply the US could offer. A symbolic one might have helped. But "those damn French" (I'm one, sort of) had us locked up in Vietnam by then. An altogether unworkable situation...
Nuke Russia? ... but soy boys have to ask Mommy first. We had no treaty with Czechoslovakia guaranteeing their freedom. And the one from GB/France in 1938 wasn't worth much. Why are so many of you like Neville Chamberlain over GB/French guarantee of Poland's sovereignty, knowing they couldn't (no access) and wouldn't (Phoney War) do anything to help Poland? The West bluffed, and Hitler/Stalin called their bluff. I recently learned, during the Russo-Polish war of 1920, it was partly due to Polish-American veteran pilots, who stemmed the tide of Trotsky's Red Army before Warsaw. There is a monument to them there.
So I assume that you are all Gen McArthur supporters of aggressive war against Communists. Wanting to be fired for insubordination by President Truman. How unlike the 1960s versions of yourselves you are. Otherwise you would have volunteered for Vietnam. I also recently saw a program on the French Communist AF pilots who flew for the Soviet Union. They had a very high kill ratio ... and were sent there by Gen DeGaulle.
Quote from: Baruch on July 20, 2019, 04:26:45 PM
Nuke Russia? ... but soy boys have to ask Mommy first. We had no treaty with Czechoslovakia guaranteeing their freedom. And the one from GB/France in 1938 wasn't worth much. Why are so many of you like Neville Chamberlain over GB/French guarantee of Poland's sovereignty, knowing they couldn't (no access) and wouldn't (Phoney War) do anything to help Poland? The West bluffed, and Hitler/Stalin called their bluff. I recently learned, during the Russo-Polish war of 1920, it was partly due to Polish-American veteran pilots, who stemmed the tide of Trotsky's Red Army before Warsaw. There is a monument to them there.
So I assume that you are all Gen McArthur supporters of aggressive war against Communists. Wanting to be fired for insubordination by President Truman. How unlike the 1960s versions of yourselves you are. Otherwise you would have volunteered for Vietnam. I also recently saw a program on the French Communist AF pilots who flew for the Soviet Union. They had a very high kill ratio ... and were sent there by Gen DeGaulle.
Ceiling Cat bless the Bubonic Plague. It set us English land-serfs free...To become downtrodden crushed English wage-serfs...
Quote from: Cavebear on July 20, 2019, 06:55:36 PM
Ceiling Cat bless the Bubonic Plague. It set us English land-serfs free...To become downtrodden crushed English wage-serfs...
Correct. And the plague strengthened the immune systems of the survivors. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger. The plague also caused the development of modern English. Middle English is the argot of mixing Old English with Norman French ... by the orphans. It was difficult to maintain the old languages since so many adults had died.
I've read that the plague kind of jump started the industrial revolution, since Europe was denuded of works, they needed to make machines that could replace them.
Quote from: Unbeliever on July 20, 2019, 07:20:35 PM
I've read that the plague kind of jump started the industrial revolution, since Europe was denuded of works, they needed to make machines that could replace them.
Correct, they had a labor surplus earlier. Then a labor shortage. Machines develop then (not in Roman Empire) because it becomes relatively economical to use the more expensive machines.
Quote from: Unbeliever on July 20, 2019, 07:20:35 PM
I've read that the plague kind of jump started the industrial revolution, since Europe was denuded of works, they needed to make machines that could replace them.
Yes fewer (and more valued) workers and the need for machinery, but it involves more than that. The survivors found themselves inheriting more wealth from their ancestors. There were good houses abandoned to be occupied. The best farms were more available. Existing goods were spread less thinly among the populace. There was more food available per person. Local thuggy lords had to actually negotiate with workers for their skills. The Magna Carta is the start of some of that. As the local lords got some freedom from the King, it trickled down as they themselves had to negotiate with the newly-formed local guilds.
The Industrial Age came from that. For the first time in a long time, inventiveness had value. A serf doesn't care how well a rake works, he just has to wield it every day. But when a serf got his own plot of land, a better rake (or scythe or whatever) actually meant something. If the only thing you are allowed to do is hoe weeds, you just want to hoe the damn weeds and go home at sundown. If you hoe weeds twice as well with a better-angled blade on your own frm. you care about that. And maybe improve your hoe further.
Correct. Without motivation, people are stinking peasants.
Quote from: Baruch on August 01, 2019, 07:15:59 AM
Correct. Without motivation, people are stinking peasants.
I abjure your statement of "correct" as if it implied I agreed with you. People are NOT "stinking peasants", with motivation or not. You missed my point entirely. Are you up too early or are you up too late? Or just being yourself?
Quote from: Cavebear on August 01, 2019, 07:26:30 AM
I abjure your statement of "correct" as if it implied I agreed with you. People are NOT "stinking peasants", with motivation or not. You missed my point entirely. Are you up too early or are you up too late? Or just being yourself?
You are making your reading to Byzantine.
Correct (period). New sentence XXXX
"Turkey Threatens To Reignite European Migrant Crisis" ... Erdogan needs another trillion Euro bribe?
Quote from: Baruch on August 01, 2019, 07:37:25 AM
You are making your reading to Byzantine.
Correct (period). New sentence XXXX
Baffled. Until I realized you meant "too". I was puzzled, thinking of analogies you might have meant like "Road To Damascus" or somesuch.
Quote from: Cavebear on August 01, 2019, 07:40:59 AM
Baffled. Until I realized you meant "too". I was puzzled, thinking of analogies you might have meant like "Road To Damascus" or somesuch.
I hate correcting myself for typos, but I do sometimes.
Quote from: Baruch on August 01, 2019, 07:42:16 AM
I hate correcting myself for typos, but I do sometimes.
I can't type worth a tinker's dam. I have to constantly edit and retype. But some matter and some don't. I should have understood what you meant...
Took him all of ~20 seconds to expose himself as a dilettante in his video.
Quote from: aileron on August 02, 2019, 05:07:53 PM
Took him all of ~20 seconds to expose himself as a dilettante in his video.
Is that you, Dr Kissinger?
@aileron Welcome back. It's been a while.
Thanks, Popeye... I needed a dose of rationality after dealing with Trumplanders for three years.
I don't think about NATO much. Never thought about the World Trade Organization much either, until some vandals wrecked it. Apparently, some people both enemies and citizens of the USA, are deeply bothered by such organizations. I remember a big bill board when I was in my teens that read "Get Us Out of the United Nations!" It stood next to Highway 2 out in the Great Plains of Eastern Montana. It was big and of an imposing nature, towering over every passing vehicle, while there was nothing else in sight as far out as the horizon. In that setting of ominous desolation, it evoked the same feeling as a sign that says, "Repent. The End is Near!"
Being new to the state, I asked a friend I made in Montana if this was a Montana thing. His reply was that the sign was put up by one guy, a member of the John Birch Society or something. Never heard of the John Birch Society either, and it was just one guy so I figured it probably wasn't that important. I don't know. Maybe it's worth getting tied up in knots over. I just never felt the need.
Quote from: aileron on August 03, 2019, 08:04:16 AM
Thanks, Popeye... I needed a dose of rationality after dealing with Trumplanders for three years.
Couldn't we all.
Quote from: aileron on August 03, 2019, 08:04:16 AM
Thanks, Popeye... I needed a dose of rationality after dealing with Trumplanders for three years.
You were a masochist during that time?
Quote from: SGOS on August 03, 2019, 08:12:45 AM
I don't think about NATO much. Never thought about the World Trade Organization much either, until some vandals wrecked it. Apparently, some people both enemies and citizens of the USA, are deeply bothered by such organizations. I remember a big bill board when I was in my teens that read "Get Us Out of the United Nations!" It stood next to Highway 2 out in the Great Plains of Eastern Montana. It was big and of an imposing nature, towering over every passing vehicle, while there was nothing else in sight as far out as the horizon. In that setting of ominous desolation, it evoked the same feeling as a sign that says, "Repent. The End is Near!"
Being new to the state, I asked a friend I made in Montana if this was a Montana thing. His reply was that the sign was put up by one guy, a member of the John Birch Society or something. Never heard of the John Birch Society either, and it was just one guy so I figured it probably wasn't that important. I don't know. Maybe it's worth getting tied up in knots over. I just never felt the need.
Yes, the UN that failed n 1950, and has been even more worthless since? Nato was mostly useless (ask Czechoslovakia, E Germany and Hungary during the Cold War) and pointless since about 1992 (no Soviet Union). But given Turkey's behavior (nationalist) it is pretty much a dead letter.
Where have you been? In the wilderness for 70 years? ;-)
John Birch Society is a right-wing extremist group that was kicked out of the Republican Party, thanks to William F Buckley, over 50 years ago.
Quote from: aileron on August 03, 2019, 06:49:19 AM
Yeeeeeeeesss.
Aka ... you support the militant and anti-US activities of Dr Kissinger and Zbigniew Brzezinski, which pretty much means you are 30 years out of date?
Quote from: Baruch on August 03, 2019, 09:12:20 AM
Aka ... you support the militant and anti-US activities of Dr Kissinger and Zbigniew Brzezinski, which pretty much means you are 30 years out of date?
Actually, "yeeeeesss" is a reference to Kissinger's distinctive accent, not support for his positions.
As far as "support" for Kissinger and Brzezinski, I do not support politicians only policies. To the extent they have good ones or bad ones, so be it. Though I don't support the person of a politician, I do on occasion oppose them. For example, Kissinger earns a special place in non-existent hell for his support of a war he knew had no exit strategy. Nixon earns a special place on the 7th level of hell for working to sabotage peace talks as part of his campaign strategy.
Quote from: aileron on August 04, 2019, 05:23:12 PM
Actually, "yeeeeesss" is a reference to Kissinger's distinctive accent, not support for his positions.
As far as "support" for Kissinger and Brzezinski, I do not support politicians only policies. To the extent they have good ones or bad ones, so be it. Though I don't support the person of a politician, I do on occasion oppose them. For example, Kissinger earns a special place in non-existent hell for his support of a war he knew had no exit strategy. Nixon earns a special place on the 7th level of hell for working to sabotage peace talks as part of his campaign strategy.
There are times I wish for a temporary version of an Early Christian Hell for some people (10 minutes might overdo), but it is probably pointless. Let the dead be dead and nothing more.
I think there are 2 types of people I abhor. Those who believe the moronic things they say and those who only pretend to for advantage. I hate the latter far more.
Quote from: Cavebear on August 05, 2019, 09:03:03 AM
There are times I wish for a temporary version of an Early Christian Hell for some people (10 minutes might overdo), but it is probably pointless. Let the dead be dead and nothing more.
I think there are 2 types of people I abhor. Those who believe the moronic things they say and those who only pretend to for advantage. I hate the latter far more.
The first are voters. The second are politicians. So this is the end result of a polysci education??
Quote from: Baruch on August 05, 2019, 11:52:02 AM
The first are voters. The second are politicians. So this is the end result of a polysci education??
Got me! I should have added "and the citizens". I was thinking of politicians...