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Title: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: Shiranu on March 30, 2019, 11:12:55 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/03/29/share-americans-not-having-sex-has-reached-record-high/?utm_term=.14336166112e (https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/03/29/share-americans-not-having-sex-has-reached-record-high/?utm_term=.14336166112e)


QuoteFor most of the past three decades, twentysomething men and women reported similar rates of sexlessness. But that's changed in recent years. Since 2008, the share of men younger than 30 reporting no sex has nearly tripled, to 28 percent. That's a much steeper increase than the 8 percentage point increase reported among their female peers.

A large part of this is economic; as debt increases and employment rates dip, men increasingly cannot afford to have a relationship or in many cases are forced to live at home... which has obvious implications for bringing women home.


There are a few other factors... technology obviously has a large effect on this as well, but I feel like that is oversold; it's not like women don't play video games or watch porn and yet there hasn't been such a drastic decrease in women having sex. I also don't figure that the #MeToo movement has much (or anything) to do with it either, because the women who would use that as a reason not to sleep with certain men wouldn't have slept with those guys anyways.


While I think sex is way too... commercialized? Misrepresented and overhyped for the wrong reasons?..., the deeper problem to me is not that men aren't getting laid but rather they are having much less and less human interaction. Between that and the economic issues I mentioned above, it's no wonder our depression rate and suicide rate has been quite steadily increasing for years now, which causes a bit of a feedback loop between the two issues.



Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: drunkenshoe on March 31, 2019, 03:49:43 AM
There is also something like this. https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/living-single/201811/7-reasons-why-young-people-are-having-less-sex

I think there are lots of reasons. From my perspective, so many things have changed regarding personal relationships, I wouldn't know where to begin with. Also, may be the gender wars bullshit, self help madness has a bit of an effect on this too.

The only positive outcome would be a decrease in world population I guess. But it is not good.

Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: Mr.Obvious on March 31, 2019, 04:05:32 AM
So wait, men are having less sex, but not women?


Shit, seems like they figured out they really don't need us.
Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: Baruch on March 31, 2019, 05:17:38 AM
Correct.  The myth of Heracles and Hippolyta, queen of the Amazons ... is the original cuck story.  Even more fierce is Clytemnestra and Medea.  Feral women, like feral men, are a disaster.  I rather like how Odysseus dealt with the suiters of his wife, and the maids that slept with the suiters.

Would I date a feminist woman today vs 40 years ago?  No way Jose.  In fact, I looked into a mail order overseas bride even back then.  I did marry a Boomer feminist.  The results were mixed.

When we say "having less sex" that is relative to the licentious "pickup culture" that earlier feminism allowed.  The earlier feminists liked sex, but the new feminists are puritan hypocrites.  I avoided "pickup culture" for practical safety reasons.  But there is nothing new under the Sun King ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QaBYLAOaSY

King Louis XIV's younger brother was a regular cross-dresser at court.  Empress Elizabeth of Russia, she had balls were the couples had to dress opposite.  The Empress liked to portray a Russian sailor.  The French cross-dresser Chevalier d'Éon, a diplomatic spy who went full time femme, spied for France at her court.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzpvBBgY_YA

Older boomer feminists at least make some sense ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iv7LvRhvgNI

But this is from the POV of the academy, where things are more radical than on the street.
Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: aitm on March 31, 2019, 08:29:55 AM
I haven't read the articles, but let me take a couple swings at it. Guys who can get laid pretty much whenever they want, still get laid pretty much whenever they want. The guys who need to work at it are spending less time working on it and more time involved in useless "gizmo games". The guys who really need to work at it, just don't bother as a relationship is much harder than the "gizmo games" and their other partners in gizmo games reciprocate in a quasi "goodbuddyreplacementforsexbybeinggoodbuddies".......so there.

Girls are fucking who ever the hell is still spending time walking around in real life and not with their head in a "gizmo game"
Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: Blackleaf on March 31, 2019, 12:23:42 PM
Quote from: aitm on March 31, 2019, 08:29:55 AM
I haven't read the articles, but let me take a couple swings at it. Guys who can get laid pretty much whenever they want, still get laid pretty much whenever they want. The guys who need to work at it are spending less time working on it and more time involved in useless "gizmo games". The guys who really need to work at it, just don't bother as a relationship is much harder than the "gizmo games" and their other partners in gizmo games reciprocate in a quasi "goodbuddyreplacementforsexbybeinggoodbuddies".......so there.

Girls are fucking who ever the hell is still spending time walking around in real life and not with their head in a "gizmo game"

What is a "gizmo game?"
Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: Blackleaf on March 31, 2019, 12:44:05 PM
I doubt I represent the general public, since I was homeschooled as a kid, but yeah. This has been an issue for me. As a result of my upbringing and lack of socialization outside of churches and family, I've always been socially awkward. I'm good at picking up body language, but I'm not good at keeping a conversation. I'm sure being an atheist doesn't help my chances either. I'm not going to say women don't like nice guys, because that isn't true, and I'm not an incel who thinks he's owed something. But I have been described as "too nice," which I think means they think I'm not assertive enough; that I'm a people pleaser. Now at age 29, I've only had two girlfriends my entire life, and I'm pretty sure the first one just wanted to deflower me because she knew I was a good Christian boy. Both left after a few months, and I've pretty much given up trying. The only way I'm getting laid is if I pay for it. Knowing my luck, she'd be a cop, so... Just gonna stay home and play Skyrim.
Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: aitm on March 31, 2019, 08:43:05 PM
Quote from: Blackleaf on March 31, 2019, 12:44:05 PM
Just gonna stay home and play Skyrim.

gizmo game
Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: Blackleaf on April 01, 2019, 01:30:24 AM
Quote from: aitm on March 31, 2019, 08:43:05 PM
gizmo game

So it's a video game?
Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: Baruch on April 01, 2019, 05:48:10 AM
Quote from: Blackleaf on April 01, 2019, 01:30:24 AM
So it's a video game?

Gamergate results in male sterility ;-)
Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: Unbeliever on April 01, 2019, 01:55:03 PM
To quote from a Louis L'Amour character in The Walking Drum, "Trust to your wits, boy, and your good right hand."
Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: PickelledEggs on April 01, 2019, 05:30:07 PM
Quote from: Mr.Obvious on March 31, 2019, 04:05:32 AM
So wait, men are having less sex, but not women?


Shit, seems like they figured out they really don't need us.
I swear... my girlfriend is hornier than I am. And that is saying something.
Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: Hydra009 on April 01, 2019, 05:47:07 PM
Quote from: Mr.Obvious on March 31, 2019, 04:05:32 AMSo wait, men are having less sex, but not women?
That's what I was wondering.  Maybe we're more like elephant seals than commonly thought.
Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: Baruch on April 01, 2019, 07:15:35 PM
Quote from: Hydra009 on April 01, 2019, 05:47:07 PM
That's what I was wondering.  Maybe we're more like elephant seals than commonly thought.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CE7Srq7gXI

Elephant seals are successful animals because their flippers prevent using "game boy".
Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: Cavebear on April 02, 2019, 01:06:10 AM
I decided a few decades ago that the effort of the chase wasn't really worth the catch.  I could say more but I'm probably safer not saying more.  If a real discussion develops about this, I might.
Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: Blackleaf on April 02, 2019, 01:30:59 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on April 02, 2019, 01:06:10 AM
I decided a few decades ago that the effort of the chase wasn't really worth the catch.  I could say more but I'm probably safer not saying more.  If a real discussion develops about this, I might.

I've always wanted to have a traditional marriage, raise kids, etc. But yeah, relationships have been rather draining, and I'm no happier with them than without them. I've been wondering for a while if it is even worth the effort. Relationships demand nearly all of your free time, much of your money, and much of your energy. You have to constantly be thinking of new things to say and do, because giving the same compliment twice makes it lose its meaning. I've always felt like I was the one doing all the heavy lifting. That's a lot of work just to have them suddenly start giving you the cold shoulder for no apparent reason, being too "sick" or "busy" to spend time with you, until they finally have the balls to break up with you. Am I bitter? Maybe just a little.
Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: Cavebear on April 02, 2019, 05:03:08 AM
Quote from: Blackleaf on April 02, 2019, 01:30:59 AM
I've always wanted to have a traditional marriage, raise kids, etc. But yeah, relationships have been rather draining, and I'm no happier with them than without them. I've been wondering for a while if it is even worth the effort. Relationships demand nearly all of your free time, much of your money, and much of your energy. You have to constantly be thinking of new things to say and do, because giving the same compliment twice makes it lose its meaning. I've always felt like I was the one doing all the heavy lifting. That's a lot of work just to have them suddenly start giving you the cold shoulder for no apparent reason, being too "sick" or "busy" to spend time with you, until they finally have the balls to break up with you. Am I bitter? Maybe just a little.

It works that way for both sexes.  Quite frankly, I think that not needing children to support you in your old age has something to do with it.

I'm happy on my own.  And there is a certain easy and relexed enjoyment in a life not requiring someone else to negotiate with about dinner and TV and staying up late and when to go out and where, etc.
Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: Baruch on April 02, 2019, 07:20:38 AM
Ancient people not only wanted to be supported in old age, they also wanted to be supported in death.  Offerings at the graves, remembrance.  We used to do that on Memorial Day in the US, as recently as my parent's generation.
Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: Unbeliever on April 02, 2019, 01:23:23 PM
Yeah, me too. More trouble than it's worth.
Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: Minimalist on April 02, 2019, 08:55:15 PM
A lot of men are assholes and women have become more discerning.
Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: Baruch on April 03, 2019, 12:46:04 AM
Quote from: Minimalist on April 02, 2019, 08:55:15 PM
A lot of men are assholes and women have become more discerning.

Better there not be casual sex ... my generation brought on this STD hell.  Anarchism is human relationships is just ... anarchism.

A lot of women are assholes too.  But you can avoid trouble by not dating or marrying them.  The trick is knowing which ones.
Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: ParaGoomba Slayer on April 07, 2019, 04:26:14 AM
I think it's a combination of multiple factors.

The prevalence of internet porn.

The smartphone annihilating society.

Internet dating turning love into a commodity. Dating over the internet is like a fucking job interview now.

Incels taking some grains of truth about nice guys finishing last and blowing them out of proportion and throwing pity parties for themselves and spreading their propaganda to other incels in one big snowball.

Incels assuming that women are only out to rob them of their seed and falsely accuse them of rape.

There is also a pervasive, "filter bubble" that people live in even outside of the internet. Things like Netflix and youtube and video games are built around keeping people engaged with things tailor made for them in a cycle. This seems to extend into the wider society as well. You can simply surround yourself with 100% male Magic: The Gathering players or what have you on every off day you have and rarely encounter women.

Everything in our society is turning into a narcissistic, quick fix. After a while enough of this stuff means that some people don't feel like putting forth effort to do anything. Any tinge of sadness someone may feel may quickly be covered up by grabbing your phone and looking at Facebook.

Among other factors. Additionally, women don't tend to be the pursuers so no one is picking up the slack.


It's only going to get worse. Children raised with tablets and smartphones are going to be even more socially awkward than current generations. Children raised by those children won't fair any better. Would Beethoven have been a composer if he had access to video games or the internet? No.

My grandparents grew up in Italy in the 30's, 40's, and 50's. They tell me of roving bands of men that would play instruments and be invited into stranger's houses to drink and go around serenading women.
Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: Baruch on April 07, 2019, 04:33:21 AM
Serenading was part of traditional culture in Latin culture.  Some of my ex's grandparents also came from Italy.  There were great taboos in regard to unmarried people mixing, so there were constructed social occasions to provide that (mixers).  Often dances at regular Catholic festivals/saint's days.  Modern people think they are so superior to our ancestors, because we have cell phones.  I say BS.  Not that everything was good about it ... but that we thru the bambino out with the bath water in the 60s.  We are utterly degenerate now.  This is why Islam (mainly about women) finds us an existential threat to be exterminated.

My own distant Latin culture hails from Iberia and Francia.  Finding out that, thru genetic testing, has changed my relationship with those cultures.  They are no longer "other" vs my N European ancestry.
Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: Cavebear on April 07, 2019, 04:43:47 AM
Quote from: Minimalist on April 02, 2019, 08:55:15 PM
A lot of men are assholes and women have become more discerning.

Well, one might equally say that women are psychologically controlling, want to change all the furniture every couple years, want to change your habits, and are superficial.

Note that I said "one could say"...
Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: Blackleaf on April 07, 2019, 01:31:27 PM
Quote from: ParaGoomba Slayer on April 07, 2019, 04:26:14 AMAdditionally, women don't tend to be the pursuers so no one is picking up the slack.

Hold on. You don't think women are overly attached to their cellphones? This comment seems to give the implication that all the previous problems of society only applies to men. Also, I don't think your assumption that women are not pursuers is well founded. When women see a man that they want, they go out of their way to flirt with him, be close to him, talk to him. They're not as overt about their interest as men are, but they do know how to pursue a man.
Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: Baruch on April 07, 2019, 01:39:34 PM
Most men are unattractive to me, same as I think women feel, but then I am a straight man ;-)
Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: ParaGoomba Slayer on April 07, 2019, 02:57:27 PM
Quote from: Blackleaf on April 07, 2019, 01:31:27 PM
Hold on. You don't think women are overly attached to their cellphones? This comment seems to give the implication that all the previous problems of society only applies to men. Also, I don't think your assumption that women are not pursuers is well founded. When women see a man that they want, they go out of their way to flirt with him, be close to him, talk to him. They're not as overt about their interest as men are, but they do know how to pursue a man.

Of course women are overly attached to their cell phones. I did not mean to imply that everything on my list applies only to men.

I don't believe you. Sometimes, yes, but usually no. And like you said, it's not as overt as when men ask women out. Maybe as women age they're more likely to be willing to pursue, but men are the pursuers by default.

When I ask a woman out, it's with clear, direct language like, "I think that you're cute, would you like to go out on a date?". Maybe men are too autistic to pick up on certain clues and chase a pixie through the forest. That just seems annoying too, and some men may be reluctant to go on that chase for fear of harassing a woman.

What little pursuing women do is likely reduced drastically by the smartphone and other factors too.

I've stopped asking women out because I still live with my father. I'm also childfree and have herpes and at a certain point it's easier just to give up. The last woman I went out on a date with was also childfree but had dogs instead of children and I'm allergic to dogs and cats so I cut the date short before I could get attached.

There is also the fact that I have herpes but don't know where on my body I have it. So sometimes I have to dodge a kiss on the first date and explain myself.

I got banned from the childfree forums once for stating that there are no childfree women, they just have cats as children, haha.
Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: Cavebear on April 07, 2019, 03:33:06 PM
Quote from: ParaGoomba Slayer on April 07, 2019, 02:57:27 PM
Of course women are overly attached to their cell phones. I did not mean to imply that everything on my list applies only to men.

I don't believe you. Sometimes, yes, but usually no. And like you said, it's not as overt as when men ask women out. Maybe as women age they're more likely to be willing to pursue, but men are the pursuers by default.

When I ask a woman out, it's with clear, direct language like, "I think that you're cute, would you like to go out on a date?". Maybe men are too autistic to pick up on certain clues and chase a pixie through the forest. That just seems annoying too, and some men may be reluctant to go on that chase for fear of harassing a woman.

What little pursuing women do is likely reduced drastically by the smartphone and other factors too.

I've stopped asking women out because I still live with my father. I'm also childfree and have herpes and at a certain point it's easier just to give up. The last woman I went out on a date with was also childfree but had dogs instead of children and I'm allergic to dogs and cats so I cut the date short before I could get attached.

There is also the fact that I have herpes but don't know where on my body I have it. So sometimes I have to dodge a kiss on the first date and explain myself.

I got banned from the childfree forums once for stating that there are no childfree women, they just have cats as children, haha.

There are some posts where you just have to say WTF?!
Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: Unbeliever on April 07, 2019, 05:50:19 PM
I've never even heard of Skrillex, but it might be good to play this music on a hot summer day at a picnic:


https://interestingengineering.com/skrillexs-music-can-stop-mosquitos-biting-and-having-sex


I wonder if this stuff is affecting the young men the same way? If they're having less sex, are they also biting less?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJVmu6yttiw
Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: Baruch on April 13, 2019, 12:53:48 PM
"Lonely Millennials Are Becoming Friends With Houseplants" ... "she" can't charge you with date-rape, or take all you have in a divorce settlement.  So yes, a rhododendron is better than a girl friend ;-0
Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: Unbeliever on April 13, 2019, 01:15:35 PM



https://www.livescience.com/32261-do-plants-have-sex.html

Most people just cut off the reproductive organs of plants, and put them on, say, the dinner table, or their lapel.
Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: Baruch on April 13, 2019, 02:28:37 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on April 13, 2019, 01:15:35 PM


https://www.livescience.com/32261-do-plants-have-sex.html

Most people just cut off the reproductive organs of plants, and put them on, say, the dinner table, or their lapel.

http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=2594#comic
Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: Unbeliever on April 13, 2019, 04:30:22 PM


QuoteIn his editorial New Rule, Bill applauds young Americans for helping the planet by having less sex and fewer babies.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_2v7tTadFM
Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: Cavebear on April 14, 2019, 01:05:32 AM
Quote from: Baruch on April 13, 2019, 12:53:48 PM
"Lonely Millennials Are Becoming Friends With Houseplants" ... "she" can't charge you with date-rape, or take all you have in a divorce settlement.  So yes, a rhododendron is better than a girl friend ;-0

It is safe to have a few cats.  They don't argue about dinner, they  don't pay attention to what you watch on the TV, and they sit on your lap quietly purring...

Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: Baruch on April 14, 2019, 02:38:16 PM
Quote from: Cavebear on April 14, 2019, 01:05:32 AM
It is safe to have a few cats.  They don't argue about dinner, they  don't pay attention to what you watch on the TV, and they sit on your lap quietly purring...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuhLRzP2-0Y

Unsuccessful men, particularly straight men, is a major cause of violence.
Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: aitm on April 14, 2019, 03:06:56 PM
To the OP point....being married for 38 years....being part of the % was never my plan but it apparently was the wife's.
Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: Baruch on April 14, 2019, 07:51:07 PM
Quote from: aitm on April 14, 2019, 03:06:56 PM
To the OP point....being married for 38 years....being part of the % was never my plan but it apparently was the wife's.

Communication solves all problems ;-)  Unfortunately we can't communicate to our future selves to tell them to forget about the relationship ;-)
Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: Baruch on April 17, 2019, 09:50:07 AM
What men were like, and still should be ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NS4UT_t73b0
Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: Mermaid on April 17, 2019, 12:30:01 PM
Quote from: Baruch on April 13, 2019, 12:53:48 PM
"Lonely Millennials Are Becoming Friends With Houseplants" ... "she" can't charge you with date-rape, or take all you have in a divorce settlement.  So yes, a rhododendron is better than a girl friend ;-0
Yeah, especially if you can't rape a houseplant.

You say the worst things.
Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: Mr.Obvious on April 17, 2019, 01:49:42 PM
Quote from: Mermaid on April 17, 2019, 12:30:01 PM
you can't rape a houseplant.

Challenge accepted
Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: Baruch on April 17, 2019, 06:31:41 PM
Quote from: Mermaid on April 17, 2019, 12:30:01 PM
Yeah, especially if you can't rape a houseplant.

You say the worst things.

All gardeners are rapists.  #believe ivy
Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: Baruch on April 17, 2019, 06:32:19 PM
Quote from: Mr.Obvious on April 17, 2019, 01:49:42 PM
Challenge accepted

Don't try this at home, with poison ivy ;-0
Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: Mr.Obvious on April 17, 2019, 07:09:46 PM
Quote from: Baruch on April 17, 2019, 06:32:19 PM
Don't try this at home, with poison ivy ;-0

Well, it didn't say 'no', exactly.

But I can assure you that neither I nor the cactus found any sexual gratification in the matter.

So, progress? I guess?
Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: Unbeliever on April 17, 2019, 07:56:44 PM
Quote from: Baruch on April 17, 2019, 06:32:19 PM
Don't try this at home, with poison ivy ;-0

Here's a guy that tried it with stinging nettles:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnBEYmbjdic


Yeah, that hurts just thinking about it!


Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: Unbeliever on April 17, 2019, 07:57:45 PM
Quote from: Mr.Obvious on April 17, 2019, 07:09:46 PM
Well, it didn't say 'no', exactly.

But I can assure you that neither I nor the cactus found any sexual gratification in the matter.

So, progress? I guess?

How can you be so sure that the cactus didn't have a really good time of it?
Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: Baruch on April 17, 2019, 09:21:12 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on April 17, 2019, 07:57:45 PM
How can you be so sure that the cactus didn't have a really good time of it?

Any time you make out with a cactus, you must be the bottom, because the cactus is the "prick".
Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: Hijiri Byakuren on April 18, 2019, 06:34:18 PM
I think it's because more and more men are realizing that masturbation is a valid sexual outlet, and that you don't have to get your rocks off by trying to get into every woman's pants.
Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: Baruch on April 18, 2019, 07:41:29 PM
Quote from: Hijiri Byakuren on April 18, 2019, 06:34:18 PM
I think it's because more and more men are realizing that masturbation is a valid sexual outlet, and that you don't have to get your rocks off by trying to get into every woman's pants.

Men should have figured this out, and the propagation of STD, millennia ago.  Just use soap on your hand first.
Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: Mr.Obvious on April 22, 2019, 03:05:26 AM
Quote from: Unbeliever on April 17, 2019, 07:57:45 PM
How can you be so sure that the cactus didn't have a really good time of it?

Well, now I just feel used.
Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: Unbeliever on April 22, 2019, 01:24:18 PM
Maybe you can sue the cactus for inappropriate hanky-panky.
Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: Baruch on April 22, 2019, 01:39:10 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on April 22, 2019, 01:24:18 PM
Maybe you can sue the cactus for inappropriate hanky-panky.

#Believespines.
Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: Minimalist on April 23, 2019, 12:07:53 AM
Hey, look at the Dickhead in Chief humping the flag.

(https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190305190954-trump-hugs-flag.jpg)
Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: Shiranu on April 23, 2019, 12:52:11 AM
To be honest, the horrifying image of Trump trying to get intimate with the flag is perhaps one of the greatest contraceptives ever invented by man. It might even be more effective than castration.
Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: drunkenshoe on April 23, 2019, 06:38:54 AM
LOOOL He is humping the American flag.
Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: Unbeliever on April 23, 2019, 01:14:26 PM
So Trump finally learned to have safe sex?
Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: Mr.Obvious on April 23, 2019, 01:35:04 PM
He got flagged.
Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: Unbeliever on April 24, 2019, 01:30:45 PM
Trump's presidency is flagging.
Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: Cavebear on May 10, 2019, 02:20:37 AM
Quote from: Baruch on April 18, 2019, 07:41:29 PM
Men should have figured this out, and the propagation of STD, millennia ago.  Just use soap on your hand first.

What will happen when science allows women to have children without male involvement?  Oh wait, that's already happening...
Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: Baruch on May 10, 2019, 04:29:56 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on May 10, 2019, 02:20:37 AM
What will happen when science allows women to have children without male involvement?  Oh wait, that's already happening...

No more alimony ;-)  Let the women go f**k themselves.  This doesn't require baby making.
Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: Cavebear on May 10, 2019, 05:46:04 AM
Quote from: Baruch on May 10, 2019, 04:29:56 AM
No more alimony ;-)  Let the women go f**k themselves.  This doesn't require baby making.

I think you miss the point.  The main value men have to women is protection against other men and the XY to their XX.  See 'The Female Man' by Joanna Russ.
Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: Baruch on May 10, 2019, 10:47:38 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on May 10, 2019, 05:46:04 AM
I think you miss the point.  The main value men have to women is protection against other men and the XY to their XX.  See 'The Female Man' by Joanna Russ.

As an outsider to marriage to a woman ...

You have to ask women.  My ex ...

1. It is all about me
2. It is also all about competition with other women
3. Men, why do I need one again?

We simply aren't all that important in modern society, from their POV.

Also said to men ... go to work, work hard, bring back lots of money for me to establish the lifestyle I want ... gynocracy.  I might even let you have a say in raising the children, when and if I feel like.  The Victorian age ruined mankind.
Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: Draconic Aiur on May 15, 2019, 04:07:50 PM
Women want a good looking, confidant, non desperate man who is wealthy and has money. There could be cuts, but non desperate man is the take away. Women are like men: choosy, and will not fall for a guy who is average fat man who is semi confidant, desperate, and has no money and little wealth.

That being said true men that play vid games are less looking for a partner. Perhaps it's because we haven't learned the skill to woo or socialize with women. And franly there are alot of men who are afraid of women who have the power of the pen over men, men tend to stay far away from women. Could be one reason why men can't get girlfriends and the feminists are not helping at all.

Also even if men do have girlfriends or wives, the cost of reproducing by hospital is too costly, and also the more intelligent it seems the less reproduction warrants activity.
Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: Cavebear on May 16, 2019, 09:18:35 AM
Quote from: Draconic Aiur on May 15, 2019, 04:07:50 PM
Women want a good looking, confidant, non desperate man who is wealthy and has money. There could be cuts, but non desperate man is the take away. Women are like men: choosy, and will not fall for a guy who is average fat man who is semi confidant, desperate, and has no money and little wealth.

That being said true men that play vid games are less looking for a partner. Perhaps it's because we haven't learned the skill to woo or socialize with women. And franly there are alot of men who are afraid of women who have the power of the pen over men, men tend to stay far away from women. Could be one reason why men can't get girlfriends and the feminists are not helping at all.

Also even if men do have girlfriends or wives, the cost of reproducing by hospital is too costly, and also the more intelligent it seems the less reproduction warrants activity.

I decided back when I was relatively attractive to women by success and appearance, that I preferred not negotiate life as a couple.  I like my life now.
Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: Draconic Aiur on May 16, 2019, 06:49:47 PM
That's up to you, but your not most men who are single and or play video games.
Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: Baruch on May 17, 2019, 01:21:16 AM
Quote from: Draconic Aiur on May 16, 2019, 06:49:47 PM
That's up to you, but your not most men who are single and or play video games.

Most women don't like beards, let alone fur ;-)
Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: Mr.Obvious on May 17, 2019, 04:31:14 AM
My gf was happy I grew a beard and mustache.
It easily made me look ten years older than I did before. And I looked about five years younger than I was.
A twenty-three year old woman prefers to be seen with someone 4 years older rather than six years younger.
Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: Baruch on May 17, 2019, 07:03:53 AM
So not just the Hercule Poirot "tase"?
Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: Cavebear on May 22, 2019, 06:49:09 AM
Quote from: Mr.Obvious on May 17, 2019, 04:31:14 AM
My gf was happy I grew a beard and mustache.
It easily made me look ten years older than I did before. And I looked about five years younger than I was.
A twenty-three year old woman prefers to be seen with someone 4 years older rather than six years younger.

"Four years older" seems oddly specific, LOL!  But whatever makes both of you happy... ;)
Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: Baruch on May 22, 2019, 06:58:19 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on May 22, 2019, 06:49:09 AM
"Four years older" seems oddly specific, LOL!  But whatever makes both of you happy... ;)

Maybe he couldn't purchase alcohol (beer especially in Belgium) without looking older.  So embarrassing to have your girlfriend go into the store to purchase for you ;-)
Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: Mr.Obvious on May 22, 2019, 07:07:00 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on May 22, 2019, 06:49:09 AM
"Four years older" seems oddly specific, LOL!  But whatever makes both of you happy... ;)

Lol. My gf is just a year older than I am. So if i look 5 years older than I am, I look 4 years older than her. :p
Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: Mr.Obvious on May 22, 2019, 07:08:30 AM
Quote from: Baruch on May 22, 2019, 06:58:19 AM
Maybe he couldn't purchase alcohol (beer especially in Belgium) without looking older.  So embarrassing to have your girlfriend go into the store to purchase for you ;-)

In begium we can buy beer at the age of 16. I could drink long before I met her.
Incidentally, if I didn't, we probably wouldn't have wound up together.
Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: Cavebear on May 22, 2019, 07:10:03 AM
Quote from: Mr.Obvious on May 22, 2019, 07:07:00 AM
Lol. My gf is just a year older than I am. So if i look 5 years older than I am, I look 4 years older than her. :p

My cheers to you both!
Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: Baruch on May 22, 2019, 07:13:36 AM
Quote from: Mr.Obvious on May 22, 2019, 07:08:30 AM
In begium we can buy beer at the age of 16. I could drink long before I met her.
Incidentally, if I didn't, we probably wouldn't have wound up together.

Become a Mormon.  Move to Utah.  Their alcohol laws are ... strange.
Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: Cavebear on May 22, 2019, 07:14:09 AM
Quote from: Mr.Obvious on May 22, 2019, 07:08:30 AM
In begium we can buy beer at the age of 16. I could drink long before I met her.
Incidentally, if I didn't, we probably wouldn't have wound up together.

Beer does that.  I once read that life-events are more random than we think,  I agree.  But that raises a disturbing possibility.  If I agree that life is more random than I think, what can I think?
Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: Baruch on May 22, 2019, 07:15:16 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on May 22, 2019, 07:14:09 AM
Beer does that.  I once read that life-events are more random than we think,  I agree.  But that raises a disturbing possibility.  If I agree that life is more random than I think, what can I think?

Blame Heisenberg that you can't accurately get the position and velocity of beer just right, to take a swig ;-)
Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: Mr.Obvious on May 22, 2019, 07:17:37 AM
Quote from: Baruch on May 22, 2019, 07:13:36 AM
Become a Mormon.  Move to Utah.  Their alcohol laws are ... strange.

Why would I do that?

She doesn't have a sister I also want to marry. :p
Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: Baruch on May 22, 2019, 07:18:52 AM
Quote from: Mr.Obvious on May 22, 2019, 07:17:37 AM
Why would I do that?

She doesn't have a sister I also want to marry. :p

You just don't want to wear the magic underware.
Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: Cavebear on May 22, 2019, 07:22:19 AM
Quote from: Baruch on May 22, 2019, 07:15:16 AM
Blame Heisenberg that you can't accurately get the position and velocity of beer just right, to take a swig ;-)

I know about Heisenberg.  His example was a NEGATION of the idea of what most people think they understand of his thought-experiment.
Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: Baruch on May 22, 2019, 07:28:58 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on May 22, 2019, 07:22:19 AM
I know about Heisenberg.  His example was a NEGATION of the idea of what most people think they understand of his thought-experiment.

Heisenberg worked with Bohr, and Bohr had a physics institute gifted to him by a Danish brewer.  The joke is deeper ...
Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: Unbeliever on May 22, 2019, 01:37:38 PM
Heisenberg was Bohr-ing...

:-P
Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: Baruch on May 22, 2019, 04:15:05 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on May 22, 2019, 01:37:38 PM
Heisenberg was Bohr-ing...

:-P

Are you certain of that? ;-p
Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: Cavebear on May 26, 2019, 02:59:00 AM
I see that Heisenberg's idea will never be properly understood...
Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: Baruch on May 26, 2019, 04:22:47 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on May 26, 2019, 02:59:00 AM
I see that Heisenberg's idea will never be properly understood...

Are you blind? ;-)
Title: Re: American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex
Post by: Cavebear on May 26, 2019, 06:13:07 AM
Quote from: Baruch on May 26, 2019, 04:22:47 AM
Are you blind? ;-)

Cogito Ergo Vidi?...