The right should just give them a blank check to riot on these matters, see how the left like their pet monsters. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYhrwkE6Gaw)
The right should just give them a blank check to riot on these matters, see how the left like their pet monsters when they no longer sit on command.
Disobedience shall be punished. So says every society in history. Suspend all the pupils involved?
Well, to quote Locutus of Borg, "Resistance is futile. Your life as it has been, is over. From this time forward, you will service - us."
Quote from: Unbeliever on March 14, 2019, 06:57:15 PM
Well, to quote Locutus of Borg, "Resistance is futile. Your life as it has been, is over. From this time forward, you will service - us."
Says every self interested human group in history. Optimists need a lobotomy.
QuoteBBC (https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-birmingham-47498446) The lessons have stopped, but the school says it is not a u-turn, but part of a pre-existing plan to focus on religious education for the rest of the term, with No Outsiders to remain part of its ethos.
Even the RT video showed the letter where the school said the same thing. Should they have changed their curriculum in response to Muslim protest (specifically to spite them) or not?
Also (https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-birmingham-47536752?ns_source=facebook&ns_campaign=bbcnews&ocid=socialflow_facebook&ns_mchannel=social&fbclid=IwAR39yHWFYzn_2c75iPVVT5_uORzNMfl_jfl56FTPV2yQbTEGMOZuTxgkwUQ&fbclid=IwAR2_cVcQVn9k-JwH4odIAYPqXMOTlndixbIaQEUibfly9RaFOrwur-xQAdE)
Quote from: your_dude_james on March 14, 2019, 06:05:35 PM
The right should just give them a blank check to riot on these matters, see how the left like their pet monsters. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYhrwkE6Gaw)
The right should just give them a blank check to riot on these matters, see how the left like their pet monsters when they no longer sit on command.
I don't understand what you just said.
I believe we already have a thread on this topic: https://atheistforums.com/index.php?topic=13380.0
Well, looks like they did cave (http://www.parkfield.bham.sch.uk/No-Outsiders-Lessons-1?returnUrl=/default)
Quote“Until a resolution has been reached , No Outsiders lessons will not be taught at Parkfield and we hope that children will not be removed from school to take part in protests.â€
Quote from: drunkenshoe on March 15, 2019, 04:14:26 AM
The difference between two threads actually shows pr's perspective more than the event.
This thread should stay and members should ignore the other one. The news is that one school temporarily having a crisis. pr's thread advertises a video with misleading atitle of "LGBT Education Ended in UK".
Both of them are trying to spin this story like the Left are to blame for giving Muslims special treatment. Neither of them have bothered to do their research first, and they're both acting like idiots. This thread essentially confirms to me what I suspected early on, that James is the new pr.
Quote from: Blackleaf on March 15, 2019, 11:16:40 AM
Both of them are trying to spin this story like the Left are to blame for giving Muslims special treatment. Neither of them have bothered to do their research first, and they're both acting like idiots. This thread essentially confirms to me what I suspected early on, that James is the new pr.
You are probably right. I haven't read all his posts. But what I thought writing that at least this one is a some sort of a news piece. What
pr posts in general is the bat shit crazy version of anything. Other than that people blaming left using this was a given. They can blame the Left for birds flying in one way.
I'll delete that post.
Quote from: Draconic Aiur on March 15, 2019, 12:48:43 AM
I don't understand what you just said.
If Muslims want to remove homo then nobody but the LGBTQRSTUVXYZ cult has any stake in stopping them.
Quote from: your_dude_james on March 15, 2019, 12:03:21 PM
If Muslims want to remove homo then nobody but the LGBTQRSTUVXYZ cult has any stake in stopping them.
A group may or may not want ... to do something. They may or may not ... actually do it. If the only way to save gay people, is to establish word wide communism (with atheism as an afterthought), just in case ... that sounds pretty extreme. It wasn't inevitable that Churchill was right about Hitler. Earlier Churchill had positive things to say about Mussolini. Hitler initially had positive things to say about FDR. Churchill got lucky just one time, in his tea leaf readings.
Just because people on the Left believe that Muslims should be treated like human beings doesn't mean we are obligated to support everything they do, or what they believe. Why is this such a difficult concept for people on the Right to understand?
Quote from: Blackleaf on March 15, 2019, 11:21:47 PM
Just because people on the Left believe that Muslims should be treated like human beings doesn't mean we are obligated to support everything they do, or what they believe. Why is this such a difficult concept for people on the Right to understand?
Charlie Wilson's war. The Neo-Libs/Neo-Cons alliance regard the jihadis as mercenaries in their war against the peasants. Left-Right both support this abortion.
Germans in Nazi Germany are human beings. So we need to surrender now? No, the Left, as in Vichy France, aren't neutral humanitarians. They are traitors. Only after Hitler invaded the Soviet Union, then the Resistance (mostly French communists) became patriots. Before that, they supported international revolution (under Stalinist control).
Quote from: Blackleaf on March 15, 2019, 11:21:47 PM
Just because people on the Left believe that Muslims should be treated like human beings doesn't mean we are obligated to support everything they do, or what they believe. Why is this such a difficult concept for people on the Right to understand?
Because you're too weak to defend yourselves from them and there will come a time, probably very soon, when nobody will bother to defend you.
Because when you defend someone you invariably take a measure of responsibility for their actions. And oh how the left has gone to bat for the Muslims.
Quote from: your_dude_james on March 16, 2019, 06:11:25 PM
Because you're too weak to defend yourselves from them and there will come a time, probably very soon, when nobody will bother to defend you.
They don't have to worry about the storm troopers ... they can always ...
Turn On, Tune In, Drop Out
Quote from: Blackleaf on March 15, 2019, 11:21:47 PM
Why is this such a difficult concept for people on the Right to understand?
Every concept is difficult for right-wingers to understand. Except greed, violence and hate - those concepts they understand all too well.
More bullshit to get people to give up their survival instincts. Everything the left preaches is some form of suicide. Openness to "refugees," anti-natalism, giving up guns, surrender to an absolute state, etc.
Quote from: your_dude_james on March 16, 2019, 06:11:25 PM
Because you're too weak to defend yourselves from them and there will come a time, probably very soon, when nobody will bother to defend you.
Because when you defend someone you invariably take a measure of responsibility for their actions. And oh how the left has gone to bat for the Muslims.
Yeah... There's clearly no potential for intelligent debate with you.
Quote from: Blackleaf on March 16, 2019, 06:56:07 PM
Yeah... There's clearly no potential for intelligent debate with you.
Yep--Airk, part II. I do think this guy is a theist.
Quote from: Mike Cl on March 16, 2019, 07:26:29 PM
Yep--Airk, part II. I do think this guy is a theist.
Nah. I think he's just an alt-right atheist.
Quote from: Blackleaf on March 15, 2019, 11:16:40 AM
Both of them are trying to spin this story like the Left are to blame for giving Muslims special treatment. Neither of them have bothered to do their research first, and they're both acting like idiots. This thread essentially confirms to me what I suspected early on, that James is the new pr.
I suspected he was PR's sock puppet, but the account was created before pr was banned.
Quote from: _Xenu_ on March 16, 2019, 08:33:59 PM
I suspected he was PR's sock puppet, but the account was created before pr was banned.
Wait. Pr was banned? When did that happen, and what did he say that was worse than his usual stuff?
Quote from: Unbeliever on March 16, 2019, 06:23:28 PM
Every concept is difficult for right-wingers to understand. Except greed, violence and hate - those concepts they understand all too well.
Left Gulag ... so nice.
Quote from: your_dude_james on March 14, 2019, 06:05:35 PM
The right should just give them a blank check to riot on these matters, see how the left like their pet monsters. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYhrwkE6Gaw)
The right should just give them a blank check to riot on these matters, see how the left like their pet monsters when they no longer sit on command.
You may be conflating 2 separate events. IOW, A school stopped LGBT tolerance events AND the Moslems stayed home for a separate reason. I'm not saying they did, but it is something to consider.