Stephen Hicks: Nietzsche Perfectly Forecasts the Postmodernist Left
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbA9ALOrHaA
Yale University (https://www.theguardian.com/books/2016/jun/01/yale-english-students-call-for-end-of-focus-on-white-male-writers)
UPenn University (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4026576/Students-remove-Shakespeare-portrait-UPenn-replace-photo-black-lesbian-writer-amid-push-diversity-English-department.html)
Stephen Hicks with Stefan Molyneux
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkfH87CgKOQ
And before Nietzsche, Rousseau and Voltaire! Actually Nietzsche didn't directly foreshadow Naziism, his sister did. She promoted his legacy for her own twisted purposes, and Hitler used her promotion for his own hipness. Much of Nietzsche is neo-pagan ... he was a philo-greek. Hitler was neo-pagan thru Wagner. So there is an overlapping of temperaments. Hitler saw himself as the fulfillment of the uber-mensch prophesy.
Your choice of material is ironic. Not just because Nietzsche is seen as proto-Nazi, but like Rousseau/Voltaire was anti-semtic.
You can't defeat "know nothing" progressivism without a proper defense of tradition (not regressivism).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyQz7QJhONw
There are great philosophers, thinkers, debaters like Sir Roger Scruton, Jonathan Haidt, Jordan Peterson, Dinesh D'Souza, or the late Christopher Hitchens, Christina Hoff Sommers, Janice Fiamengo, Gad Saad, Steven Pinker, etc.
Are there people of this caliber on the left, or are there only wreckers of western civilization?
Tear down the existing social order and replace it with what?
Socialism? Did it ever work? Anywhere?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvbtKAYdcZY
Also Richard Hitchens ;-)
There have always been avant guard on the highway to nowhere. Appreciating tradition has been increasingly out of favor for 500 years now. Try modern acid rock vs classic music? Comparison?
Why Today's Youth Loves Socialism EXPLAINED
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HK-Oblu-CY
Peasant revolts become urban revolts. Civilization and its discontents. People will always want more than they can get, and object to oppressive pushback by those who have more. See any Western society since Athens and Rome.
Peter Boghossian (philosophy professor at Portland State University) and James Lindsay (PhD in Mathematics) join Dave to discuss their hoax writing 20 fake papers using ridiculous ideas and buzzwords to expose the influence of social justice in academia.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97FuO-hEhQo
Deplatform the universities and colleges ... by not funding them.
QuoteThere are great philosophers, thinkers, debaters like Sir Roger Scruton, Jonathan Haidt, Jordan Peterson, Dinesh D'Souza, or the late Christopher Hitchens, Christina Hoff Sommers, Janice Fiamengo, Gad Saad, Steven Pinker, etc.
I don't know if I would call any of them great philosophers or thinkers, particularly in a historical context. The best amongst them would be Hitchens, and even he will be essentially forgotten within the next... 10 years at best, I would say.
And no, that has nothing to do with their political beliefs... I can't particularly think of any "leftist" thinkers who will be relevant in that time frame either... Noam Chomsky perhaps would be one of the most influential thinkers of this era I can think of, but even then outside of intelligentsia he is pretty irrelevant anyways.
QuoteAre there people of this caliber on the left, or are there only wreckers of western civilization?
Probably, but again even if there are... that doesn't really say much because the caliber you are listing is pretty lackluster. You could maybe throw George Carlin in there, or Jon Stewart... though I wouldn't say either really developed any new philosophies but rather just repackaged them and presented them in a way that was easy to transmit (which there is nothing wrong with).
QuoteSocialism? Did it ever work? Anywhere?
Yep. The West. The thing you seem to hate so much, given you never shut up about how terrible it is.
The West ... led by the nose by faux Jewish communists? Or faux Jewish capitalists? You decide!
Quote from: Baruch on February 21, 2019, 06:50:02 PM
The West ... led by the nose by faux Jewish communists? Or faux Jewish capitalists? You decide!
Either way, he seems to hate everything it stands for...
Quote from: Shiranu on February 21, 2019, 07:09:49 PM
Either way, he seems to hate everything it stands for...
The West stands for Leftist activism, gays, bad rock music, drugs, atheism ... generally anything from the 60s that can be described as sociopathic? Really??
The majority aren't like that, never have been, never will be. Most aren't Left or Right, most aren't activist, most have good taste in music, don't do extreme drugs, are somewhat spiritual ... and consider the 60s as a bad acid trip. Most in fact are too conformist to be sociopathic.
Are you sure you don't worship John Lennon and other such people as pagan deities? You missed your opportunity to be a Hare Krishna at the airport.
Quote from: Baruch on February 21, 2019, 08:43:16 PM
The West stands for Leftist activism, gays, bad rock music, drugs, atheism ... generally anything from the 60s that can be described as sociopathic? Really??
The majority aren't like that, never have been, never will be. Most aren't Left or Right, most aren't activist, most have good taste in music, don't do extreme drugs, are somewhat spiritual ... and consider the 60s as a bad acid trip. Most in fact are too conformist to be sociopathic.
Are you sure you don't worship John Lennon and other such people as pagan deities? You missed your opportunity to be a Hare Krishna at the airport.
No, the West (at least in principle) stands for liberty, equality, fraternity. While I do believe pr believes in liberty (at least, for people he agrees with) he has proven time and time again that equality and fraternity are two things he is uncompromisingly against.
Equality or equal outcome?
We are not clones. Each human is an individual with different qualities, aspirations, ideas.
We cannot all be the same.
I do not belong to a herd.
A French motto? (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libert%C3%A9,_%C3%A9galit%C3%A9,_fraternit%C3%A9)
Those feminists who scream for equality should be asked what rights they had and now lost since November 2016?
Or for that matter, what rights Americans had, that has been revoked by law after November 2016?
Quote from: Shiranu on February 21, 2019, 10:42:33 PM
No, the West (at least in principle) stands for liberty, equality, fraternity. While I do believe pr believes in liberty (at least, for people he agrees with) he has proven time and time again that equality and fraternity are two things he is uncompromisingly against.
France stands for that ... but I consider them the extreme West end of the East ;-) I guess you have studied them a lot? I like some of the French, but not all. Every history has its stinkers.
Quote from: pr126 on February 21, 2019, 10:57:45 PM
Equality or equal outcome?
We are not clones. Each human is an individual with different qualities, aspirations, ideas.
We cannot all be the same.
I do not belong to a herd.
A French motto? (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libert%C3%A9,_%C3%A9galit%C3%A9,_fraternit%C3%A9)
Those feminists who scream for equality should be asked what rights they had and now lost since November 2016?
Or for that matter, what rights Americans had, that has been revoked by law after November 2016?
This is why all French are equally annoying, right? ;-) You and I are more Anglophile than Shiranu by far. And as such, traditional enemies of France.
French culture is an acquired taste. You aren't so old you can't have a taste ;-)
Quote
We are not clones. Each human is an individual with different qualities, aspirations, ideas.
We cannot all be the same.
That is not what equality means.
QuoteI do not belong to a herd.
Yes, you do actually.
QuoteA French motto?
Yes, a French motto... which, if you knew anything about Western culture you lament about so much about, you would know the French have been far and away the biggest contributor to Western culture since the Greeks and the Romans.
Quote from: Baruch on February 21, 2019, 11:38:17 PM
France stands for that ... but I consider them the extreme West end of the East ;-) I guess you have studied them a lot? I like some of the French, but not all. Every history has its stinkers.
I would definitely say the French are the "extreme West", and I certainly don't like large aspects of French culture and history. But like it or not, both on a secular and religious level, both in actions and in philosophy, the French have done more to influence the rest of Western civilization around them than any other nation by far.
QuoteYou and I are more Anglophile than Shiranu by far. And as such, traditional enemies of France.
I have to confess, my dad's side of the family is of Alsatian descent so... I have to have some bias, both in favour of France and against England ;).
Besides the rest of the German on that side of my family, I also have Scottish and Irish on my mom's side... so I suppose it was just fate that me and pr should be eternal enemies.
... the French have been far and away the biggest contributor to Western culture since the Greeks and the Romans - Shiranu
“How can you govern a country which has 246 varieties of cheese?â€â€• Charles de Gaulle
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/books/non_fictionreviews/3667789/A-land-of-246-kinds-of-cheese.html
"If only God were a decent man." - a French saying ... if only ... indeed!
Quote from: Shiranu on February 21, 2019, 11:42:45 PM
That is not what equality means.
Yes, you do actually.
Yes, a French motto... which, if you knew anything about Western culture you lament about so much about, you would know the French have been far and away the biggest contributor to Western culture since the Greeks and the Romans.
"Yes, you do actually. "
You know best.
So what rights and privileges have you lost since November 2016?
QuoteYou know best.
Not really, I just know that being part of "a herd" is a fundamental aspect of humanity, given we are social creatures.
You still haven't listed the rights and privileges lost because of the wretched Republicans in 2016 to make your lives utterly miserable.
Not to worry, Bernie is running again for 2020. Don't forget to vote.
Probably AOC as Vice? :-)
QuoteYou still haven't listed the rights and privileges lost because of the wretched Republicans in 2016 to make your lives utterly miserable.
Probably because it's irrelevant to anything that was being discussed.
Quote from: Shiranu on February 22, 2019, 01:28:32 AM
Probably because it's irrelevant to anything that was being discussed.
Or probably because there aren't any.
Quote from: pr126 on February 22, 2019, 01:42:15 AM
Or probably because there aren't any.
- The right to be openly transgendered and serve in the military.
- The right to (comparatively) affordable healthcare
- The right to unionize and have organizations dedicated to protecting my rights as a worker
- For women, the right to certain forms of birth control and the right to their own body
- The right to work for a small business, a system that is increasingly going out of business thanks to laws that (generally) Republicans (though most mainstream Democrats are pro-corporation as well) pass
- The right to not have my taxes dollars contribute to a globally recognized human rights violation in Trump's program of child seperation.
- For my minority friends, the right to have their vote heard and not be silenced by voter registration laws.
Thank you, next.
Thanks. At least we know what makes you miserable, comrade.
BTW, Trump's program of child separation was active under Obama as well.
Children were separated because of the parents went to jail.
Usually, children aren't incarcerated with their parents.
What to do?
Transgenders (More an ideological construct that natural occurrence) would not fare well in the Army.
A whole lot of problems arise not just for the transgendered but to others as well.
But how many transgender soldiers where in the past?
Apart from Corporal Maxwell Q. Klinger?
(https://blog4823.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/image9.jpeg)
I could pick holes in the others on the list, but there is no easy changing of the indoctrinated.
Wasted effort. Have your grievances, you need them.
I'm not in the mood to get into it, but A+ for the M*A*S*H* reference, one of my favorite series.
I have a right to free everything, and I want pr126 to pay for it, the thug! - Labor party (ironically opposed to women going into labor).
What did the mayor of London do to Watt Tyler?
Quote from: pr126 on February 05, 2019, 01:37:44 AM
Stephen Hicks: Nietzsche Perfectly Forecasts the Postmodernist Left
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbA9ALOrHaA
Yale University (https://www.theguardian.com/books/2016/jun/01/yale-english-students-call-for-end-of-focus-on-white-male-writers)
UPenn University (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4026576/Students-remove-Shakespeare-portrait-UPenn-replace-photo-black-lesbian-writer-amid-push-diversity-English-department.html)
Stephen Hicks with Stefan Molyneux
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkfH87CgKOQ
Love both your sig lines!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKMwJo9DHUQ
Marxists are the master race, their implacable virtue signaling over the poor and minorities and women will overwhelm historical narrative.
Every generation reinvents every bad idea.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPojltjv4M0
Dr Peterson would have done better, sticking to the mental health narrative, and away from the political and religious narratives. There is enough psychological evidence that most people need to be kept in a sanatarium.
By the look of things, politics has become a serious mental health issue.
Advanced TDS. "I see Nazis everywhere". Rampant Transgenderism. White Guilt. Islamophobia. Gender confusion. Victimhood Olympics. Safe Spaces. Etc.
Look at the Universities mass producing mentally unstable people.
At an exorbitant cost to the students.
Quote from: pr126 on February 23, 2019, 11:46:10 PM
By the look of things, politics has become a serious mental health issue.
Advanced TDS. "I see Nazis everywhere". Rampant Transgenderism. White Guilt. Islamophobia. Gender confusion. Victimhood Olympics. Safe Spaces. Etc.
Look at the Universities mass producing mentally unstable people.
At an exorbitant cost to the students.
Yes. Collective nervous breakdown (see Weimar Germany). The hoax papers, one of them rewrote the 12 chapter of Mein Kampf. All about organizing the Nazi party around grievance politics. Which is where the Femi-nazis naturally come from. Nervous breakdown is ... polite words for psychotic break. Where a psychopath goes off the edge. Hitler did nothing wrong, if he had been a woman.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97FuO-hEhQo
Quote from: pr126 on February 23, 2019, 11:46:10 PM
Look at the Universities mass producing mentally unstable people.
Support for that claim? Other than that educated people disagree with you?
Quote from: Cavebear on February 26, 2019, 06:14:55 AM
Support for that claim? Other than that educated people disagree with you?
Young people, educated or not ... need to check their diapers not their privs ;-) Well not the ones in the military, they have their GI underwear screwed on right ;-))
I am starting to turn against education. Ape men who can't read or write are more tractable than the educated kind.
Quote from: Baruch on February 26, 2019, 06:57:10 AM
Young people, educated or not ... need to check their diapers not their privs ;-) Well not the ones in the military, they have their GI underwear screwed on right ;-))
I am starting to turn against education. Ape men who can't read or write are more tractable than the educated kind.
Entering Trump World, I gather?
Quote from: Cavebear on February 26, 2019, 07:34:06 AM
Entering Trump World, I gather?
Trump may be more educated than you, and in a practical NYC real estate way. Which professor of which college are you?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UY5tzerK4Ag
Third wave feminism is the attempt by bull dykes to become king of the hill.
Quote from: Baruch on February 26, 2019, 01:17:47 PM
Trump may be more educated than you, and in a practical NYC real estate way. Which professor of which college are you?
Donald J Trump = Emmanuel Goldstein.
(https://alchetron.com/cdn/emmanuel-goldstein-66566bb2-8351-4064-92b9-5f8fc72dc03-resize-750.jpeg)
Quote from: pr126 on February 28, 2019, 02:28:33 AM
Donald J Trump = Emmanuel Goldstein.
(https://alchetron.com/cdn/emmanuel-goldstein-66566bb2-8351-4064-92b9-5f8fc72dc03-resize-750.jpeg)
Who is that?
Quote from: pr126 on March 01, 2019, 09:18:13 AM
Big Brother from the movie 1984
Ah, only read the book...
Quote from: Cavebear on March 01, 2019, 09:15:51 AM
Who is that?
Your poly sci professor Big Brother ;-)
Quote from: Baruch on March 01, 2019, 01:06:20 PM
Your poly sci professor Big Brother ;-)
My first poli-sci instructor was Paris Glendening who went on to became the Governor of Maryland for 2 terms. So I had a good start on the subject... Other than that, no consequence.. Pity...