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Title: I have returned..?
Post by: Plu on January 26, 2019, 03:37:54 AM
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It's been... how many years? Many, I guess. I had some pretty bad last few years, but it's a lot better now so when I woke up to a message trolling for my return, I figured I should at least drop by for a bit. See what's going on. Check if I still have complete admin access to everything on this forum (I do... risky move, guys ;) feel free to revoke them if you want) and see if I remember any of this place.

So hi! Not sure why I'm here, can't promise I'll stay, but good to see this place is still going strong. Will read up on some topics, see if there's anything I can contribute, see what happens. I'm not good at predicting the future, but I'm optimistic.

So did I miss anything important? :D
Title: Re: I have returned..?
Post by: drunkenshoe on January 26, 2019, 04:22:55 AM
Hey, Nederlander. How are you? Welcome back. LOL No, you haven't missed anything important.
Title: Re: I have returned..?
Post by: PopeyesPappy on January 26, 2019, 08:21:43 AM
Cool. Welcome back! The fishing worked!
Title: Re: I have returned..?
Post by: Mike Cl on January 26, 2019, 09:29:21 AM
Don't know you--but welcome anyway.
Title: Re: I have returned..?
Post by: aitm on January 26, 2019, 09:44:02 AM
PLU! How the hell are you? Nice of you to stop in. Hope you are well. Perfect pic too.
Title: Re: I have returned..?
Post by: Baruch on January 26, 2019, 10:19:00 AM
Hope you will stay awhile.  PLU is a classified military term from 40 years ago.

Drunkenshoe writes erudite screeds, but she is wrong, that nothing has happened here.  Trump happened ;-)
Title: Re: I have returned..?
Post by: Plu on January 26, 2019, 01:03:18 PM
Quote from: drunkenshoe on January 26, 2019, 04:22:55 AM
Hey, Nederlander. How are you? Welcome back. LOL No, you haven't missed anything important.

Hiya shoezie! Sorry for suddenly dropping off the face of the Earth, not my finest moment :( Good to see you're still here.

I'm doing okay these days. New (much more fun) job, new house, new kid, many new experiences. Feel like I went through some kind of depressing period the last few years and I'm re-discovering myself or something.
How have you been? Still safe? Still doing translation related things?

QuotePLU is a classified military term from 40 years ago.

Clearly that term is older than I am, then... now I'm curious what it meant?



Also, thanks for the welcome to the rest of you!
Title: Re: I have returned..?
Post by: Baruch on January 26, 2019, 01:11:12 PM
"Clearly that term is older than I am, then... now I'm curious what it meant?"

I am 32 years of military contracting ... and still am.  If I told you, I would have to kill you (if I can joke that well).

I like your cartoon byline.  If it isn't psychology or based on psychology, then it isn't very relevant to being human.

You seem likable.  Your low "like" count must have happened thru computer crashing of this server.
Title: Re: I have returned..?
Post by: Unbeliever on January 26, 2019, 01:13:04 PM
The prodigal Plu returns! Welcome  back, we need all the help we can get! 
Title: Re: I have returned..?
Post by: pr126 on January 26, 2019, 01:13:15 PM
Welcome back Plu.
Title: Re: I have returned..?
Post by: Blackleaf on January 26, 2019, 01:19:24 PM
Quote from: Baruch on January 26, 2019, 10:19:00 AM
Hope you will stay awhile.  PLU is a classified military term from 40 years ago.

Drunkenshoe writes erudite screeds, but she is wrong, that nothing has happened here.  Trump happened ;-)

PLU means something completely different to someone who's worked in a grocery store.

And hello, Plu. You probably left before I got here, but welcome back.
Title: Re: I have returned..?
Post by: Unbeliever on January 26, 2019, 01:23:50 PM
Quote from: Baruch on January 26, 2019, 10:19:00 AM
Trump happened ;-)

And not just to the U.S.A., either. Trump's mismanagement of America will affect the rest of the world, as well. We may soon be at war with Venezuela, so we can further enrich the war criminals who manufacture weapons of mass destruction.
Title: Re: I have returned..?
Post by: Baruch on January 26, 2019, 01:30:21 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on January 26, 2019, 01:23:50 PM
And not just to the U.S.A., either. Trump's mismanagement of America will affect the rest of the world, as well. We may soon be at war with Venezuela, so we can further enrich the war criminals who manufacture weapons of mass destruction.

Said like a true VC supporter ... back to the 1960s you go ... and take your love beads and peace sign with you ;-)
Title: Re: I have returned..?
Post by: Unbeliever on January 26, 2019, 01:33:22 PM
Make love, not war!


;-)
Title: Re: I have returned..?
Post by: Plu on January 26, 2019, 01:44:56 PM
Quote from: Baruch on January 26, 2019, 01:11:12 PM
You seem likable.  Your low "like" count must have happened thru computer crashing of this server.

Probably happened due to the "like" system being introduced after I left :-)
Title: Re: I have returned..?
Post by: Baruch on January 26, 2019, 02:07:16 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on January 26, 2019, 01:33:22 PM
Make love, not war!


;-)

I am tempted ... but not in the Intro Section.  There are lots of ways to make love ...
Title: Re: I have returned..?
Post by: Baruch on January 26, 2019, 02:10:51 PM
Quote from: Plu on January 26, 2019, 01:44:56 PM
Probably happened due to the "like" system being introduced after I left :-)

There was a debate, two years ago, about killing the "like" system.  They didn't, which is something I "like".

Mostly it was about wannabe Hitlers who want to control both ends of the post (authoritarian Solipsism).  Also frustrated narcissists who want to stuff the ballot box.  I like "likes" because I can respond with something less than a full commentary, to something that is the opposite of cringeworthy.
Title: Re: I have returned..?
Post by: aitm on January 26, 2019, 03:26:27 PM
I was never in favor of the "likes" thingy. Still see no reason for them. In all honesty I don't agree with them on FB either. I never use the likes or thumbs up or hard dick or whatever the hell it is. I have also had the same profile pic on here and on FB (though different) from the very first day. I wonder about the peeps who change their profiles every week or so just so they can get some pat on the back or self con-grats on posting a pic of them 10 years ago so everyone can tell them how hot they are from 10 years ago.....lordy peeps humanity needs some balls.
Title: Re: I have returned..?
Post by: Blackleaf on January 26, 2019, 03:36:17 PM
Quote from: aitm on January 26, 2019, 03:26:27 PM
I was never in favor of the "likes" thingy. Still see no reason for them. In all honesty I don't agree with them on FB either. I never use the likes or thumbs up or hard dick or whatever the hell it is. I have also had the same profile pic on here and on FB (though different) from the very first day. I wonder about the peeps who change their profiles every week or so just so they can get some pat on the back or self con-grats on posting a pic of them 10 years ago so everyone can tell them how hot they are from 10 years ago.....lordy peeps humanity needs some balls.

I personally think the like system is good because it allows people to express their agreement with a post without writing a whole reply. "I agree," is just a waste of a reply unless you have something else to add. However, having total likes shown underneath a person's avatar is a bit silly, IMO. It's like we're competing for popularity points or something.
Title: Re: I have returned..?
Post by: GrinningYMIR on January 26, 2019, 03:54:26 PM
Let’s see, I’m older. That’s about it. And hungry.

So hope! Hope all is going well with you over the blue
Title: Re: I have returned..?
Post by: Draconic Aiur on January 26, 2019, 04:09:55 PM
Welcome Back.
Title: Re: I have returned..?
Post by: PickelledEggs on January 26, 2019, 04:10:02 PM
HOLY SHIT IT'S PLU

I'VE MISSED YOU
Title: Re: I have returned..?
Post by: Mr.Obvious on January 26, 2019, 04:30:40 PM
I think I remember you.

Welkom terug kerel.
Title: Re: I have returned..?
Post by: Halkenburg on January 27, 2019, 04:46:36 AM
I'm new here so I don't remember you from before, but I'd still like to welcome you back. :-)
Title: Re: I have returned..?
Post by: Cavebear on February 03, 2019, 01:40:25 AM
So far, I'm not impressed, Plu...
Title: Re: I have returned..?
Post by: Plu on February 03, 2019, 03:35:36 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on February 03, 2019, 01:40:25 AM
So far, I'm not impressed, Plu...

That's because you make too many assumptions, I guess :wink:
Title: Re: I have returned..?
Post by: Cavebear on February 03, 2019, 03:57:50 AM
Quote from: Plu on February 03, 2019, 03:35:36 AM
That's because you make too many assumptions, I guess :wink:

Well, I suppose I'm not actually seeing anything specific convincing me.  Some people just like to beat around the bushes and leave things vague.  And if you are someone that other people who have been here a while know you, that is good.  If THEY say you are, that's fine.  I'm just pointing out that you aren't saying much that would convince someone who doesn't know you well that you are atheist.

I'm a suspicious type, given that I've met fakers over the past couple of decades...  And I've met some who think they are atheists and aren't really.
Title: Re: I have returned..?
Post by: Blackleaf on February 03, 2019, 03:46:11 PM
Quote from: Cavebear on February 03, 2019, 03:57:50 AM
Well, I suppose I'm not actually seeing anything specific convincing me.  Some people just like to beat around the bushes and leave things vague.  And if you are someone that other people who have been here a while know you, that is good.  If THEY say you are, that's fine.  I'm just pointing out that you aren't saying much that would convince someone who doesn't know you well that you are atheist.

I'm a suspicious type, given that I've met fakers over the past couple of decades...  And I've met some who think they are atheists and aren't really.

You have a tendency to assume things about people for no apparent reason, sometimes running off new people in the process.
Title: Re: I have returned..?
Post by: Plu on February 03, 2019, 04:58:59 PM
QuoteI'm just pointing out that you aren't saying much that would convince someone who doesn't know you well that you are atheist.

I'm Dutch. We attach no significance to the idea of being atheist, and down here we assume everyone is atheist unless we have reason to believe otherwise.

We're sort of what happens when atheism wins; it just stops mattering.
Title: Re: I have returned..?
Post by: Baruch on February 03, 2019, 07:00:46 PM
Atheism, was that because of cheese, tulips or wooden shoes? ;-)
Title: Re: I have returned..?
Post by: Plu on February 04, 2019, 01:34:40 AM
I'm gonna go with the cheese, cause I'm not into flowers and wooden shows are damn uncomfy.
Title: Re: I have returned..?
Post by: Baruch on February 04, 2019, 02:43:41 AM
Quote from: Plu on February 04, 2019, 01:34:40 AM
I'm gonna go with the cheese, cause I'm not into flowers and wooden shows are damn uncomfy.

Gouda for you ;-)
Title: Re: I have returned..?
Post by: Mike Cl on February 04, 2019, 02:44:59 PM
Quote from: Plu on February 04, 2019, 01:34:40 AM
I'm gonna go with the cheese, cause I'm not into flowers and wooden shows are damn uncomfy.
I went to Sweden once and bought a pair of wooden shoes there--it had a leather top and wooden sole.  That was one of the best pair of shoe I ever wore.  I had them for 35 years and finally wore out.  I do miss them.  But I've never worn a fully wooden shoe.
Title: Re: I have returned..?
Post by: drunkenshoe on February 04, 2019, 03:41:31 PM
Quote from: Cavebear on February 03, 2019, 03:57:50 AM
Well, I suppose I'm not actually seeing anything specific convincing me.  Some people just like to beat around the bushes and leave things vague.  And if you are someone that other people who have been here a while know you, that is good.  If THEY say you are, that's fine.  I'm just pointing out that you aren't saying much that would convince someone who doesn't know you well that you are atheist.

I'm a suspicious type, given that I've met fakers over the past couple of decades...  And I've met some who think they are atheists and aren't really.


Nobody has to convince anyone that they are atheists to be a nonbeliever. Beating around the bush or being vague about it, doesn't prevent someone from being a nonbeliever.   

There are tons of people who call themselves just 'nonbelievers' but not 'atheists' on purpose. Sometimes because they do not like the label -mostly because of the other atheists treating it as some sort of an organised-defined group, as you seem to do- or sometimes because 'a-theist' is a problematic term in reflecting its definition. It's a negative, when nonbelief is actually the only neutral position. From that point of view, 'atheist' is technically a theist term. Or it may be that they don't feel safe using the term. 

Most of the atheists don't feel the need to talk/write about atheism or religion; discuss with believers/nonbelievers online or in real life. For example, I find discussing with believers completely pointless and meaningless; and discussing from a given religion's point of view right down idiotic; what is written in books and what they mean...etc. When I was 19-20 years old, I thought differently. Then I got it.

Title: Re: I have returned..?
Post by: Unbeliever on February 04, 2019, 03:50:31 PM
The only time I ever discuss religion with anyone out here in meat space is when they try to convert me to whatever bullshit they believe. Otherwise it's no one's business what I do or don't believe.
Title: Re: I have returned..?
Post by: Baruch on February 04, 2019, 06:14:48 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on February 04, 2019, 03:50:31 PM
The only time I ever discuss religion with anyone out here in meat space is when they try to convert me to whatever bullshit they believe. Otherwise it's no one's business what I do or don't believe.

If you believe you are Napoleon, the gendarmes will pay you a visit, monsieur!
Title: Re: I have returned..?
Post by: Unbeliever on February 04, 2019, 06:20:52 PM
They're coming to take me away! ha ha ho ho hee hee! to the funny farm! where life is happy and gay! ha ha ho ho hee hee!
Title: Re: I have returned..?
Post by: Baruch on February 04, 2019, 07:03:49 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on February 04, 2019, 06:20:52 PM
They're coming to take me away! ha ha ho ho hee hee! to the funny farm! where life is happy and gay! ha ha ho ho hee hee!

"They're Coming to Take Me Away, Ha-Haaa! is a 1966 novelty record written and performed by Jerry Samuels (billed as Napoleon XIV)"

Now you are dating me, shall we pick out curtains?
Title: Re: I have returned..?
Post by: Unbeliever on February 04, 2019, 07:06:16 PM
I don't know - do the curtains match the carpet?
Title: Re: I have returned..?
Post by: Baruch on February 04, 2019, 11:47:13 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on February 04, 2019, 07:06:16 PM
I don't know - do the curtains match the carpet?

If you don't clean up your attitude, it is curtains for you! ;-)
Title: Re: I have returned..?
Post by: Unbeliever on February 05, 2019, 01:31:52 PM
Curtains - foiled again!
Title: Re: I have returned..?
Post by: Cavebear on February 19, 2019, 04:48:28 PM
Quote from: Blackleaf on February 03, 2019, 03:46:11 PM
You have a tendency to assume things about people for no apparent reason, sometimes running off new people in the process.

If you can't stand the heat...  LOL!
Title: Re: I have returned..?
Post by: Baruch on February 19, 2019, 05:13:51 PM
Quote from: Cavebear on February 19, 2019, 04:48:28 PM
If you can't stand the heat...  LOL!

The girls think your are hot?  We think not!  They don't like all the fur in their teeth ;-))
Title: Re: I have returned..?
Post by: Unbeliever on February 19, 2019, 05:16:10 PM
Nothing wrong with a little hair in the teeth, it just means you don't have to floss as much.
Title: Re: I have returned..?
Post by: Baruch on February 19, 2019, 05:20:20 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on February 19, 2019, 05:16:10 PM
Nothing wrong with a little hair in the teeth, it just means you don't have to floss as much.

Depends on if it is Spring, then the bear is shedding.
Title: Re: I have returned..?
Post by: Unbeliever on February 19, 2019, 05:21:49 PM
When Fuzzy Wuzzie isn't fuzzy?
Title: Re: I have returned..?
Post by: Mike Cl on February 19, 2019, 05:29:56 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on February 19, 2019, 05:21:49 PM
When Fuzzy Wuzzie isn't fuzzy?
If you look at the little ditty,  Fuzzy was a bear with no hair--so he never was fuzzy. 
Title: Re: I have returned..?
Post by: Unbeliever on February 19, 2019, 05:38:42 PM
Uh...yeah...
Title: Re: I have returned..?
Post by: GrinningYMIR on February 19, 2019, 08:01:08 PM
Quote from: Plu on February 04, 2019, 01:34:40 AM
I'm gonna go with the cheese, cause I'm not into flowers and wooden shows are damn uncomfy.

There’s a few people here who like to speak with smartaleck remarks and riddles now, and a few of us aren’t active as we once were. Stromboli, APA, Solitary are all long gone. I am Here a couple times a week but busy with life. 23 now, was 18 when I started. Still an atheist.
Title: Re: I have returned..?
Post by: PickelledEggs on February 19, 2019, 08:13:51 PM
Quote from: Plu on February 03, 2019, 03:35:36 AM
That's because you make too many assumptions, I guess :wink:
He does.
Title: Re: I have returned..?
Post by: Baruch on February 19, 2019, 09:18:27 PM
Quote from: Mike Cl on February 19, 2019, 05:29:56 PM
If you look at the little ditty,  Fuzzy was a bear with no hair--so he never was fuzzy.

A Nair model who went crazy?
Title: Re: I have returned..?
Post by: Mike Cl on February 19, 2019, 10:54:15 PM
Quote from: Baruch on February 19, 2019, 09:18:27 PM
A Nair model who went crazy?
Maybe Fuzzy Wuzzy was a Mexican Hairless bear (Xolo)? 
Title: Re: I have returned..?
Post by: Cavebear on February 22, 2019, 12:13:08 PM
Quote from: GrinningYMIR on February 19, 2019, 08:01:08 PM
There’s a few people here who like to speak with smartaleck remarks and riddles now, and a few of us aren’t active as we once were. Stromboli, APA, Solitary are all long gone. I am Here a couple times a week but busy with life. 23 now, was 18 when I started. Still an atheist.

Gee, 23 and "still an atheist" after 5 years.  I'm SO impressed.  I realized that I was an atheist around 11-13 years old (with no outside help),  I'm still an atheist at 68.  You crack me up...
Title: Re: I have returned..?
Post by: Blackleaf on February 22, 2019, 12:24:09 PM
Quote from: Cavebear on February 22, 2019, 12:13:08 PM
Gee, 23 and "still an atheist" after 5 years.  I'm SO impressed.  I realized that I was an atheist around 11-13 years old (with no outside help),  I'm still an atheist at 68.  You crack me up...

You seem to think there's some competition for atheistness. They don't have to impress you.
Title: Re: I have returned..?
Post by: Cavebear on February 22, 2019, 12:29:13 PM
Quote from: Blackleaf on February 22, 2019, 12:24:09 PM
You seem to think there's some competition for atheistness. They don't have to impress you.

And it was not meant as such.  Just that the idea of someone bragging about 5 years of atheism seemed a bit "premature", LOL! 
Title: Re: I have returned..?
Post by: Baruch on February 22, 2019, 12:56:18 PM
I think convinced atheists rarely become theists again.  I may be wrong.  I was an atheist around 20 years old, but it didn't last long after I got married.  So maybe 10 years atheist.  But that brings up "not a true Scotsman ...".
Title: Re: I have returned..?
Post by: Cavebear on February 22, 2019, 01:08:04 PM
Quote from: Baruch on February 22, 2019, 12:56:18 PM
I think convinced atheists rarely become theists again.  I may be wrong.  I was an atheist around 20 years old, but it didn't last long after I got married.  So maybe 10 years atheist.  But that brings up "not a true Scotsman ...".

Well, some do, but usually through marriage-pressure or careers.  I think of it as a way to weed out the easily-manipulated.  Good use of "convinced" though.  If *I* had said that, you would have challenged it as "brain-washed".
Title: Re: I have returned..?
Post by: Baruch on February 22, 2019, 01:12:42 PM
Quote from: Cavebear on February 22, 2019, 01:08:04 PM
Well, some do, but usually through marriage-pressure or careers.  I think of it as a way to weed out the easily-manipulated.  Good use of "convinced" though.  If *I* had said that, you would have challenged it as "brain-washed".

Figure you would claim to be your own breed of uber-mensch ;-(  My life experience got broadened beyond work.
Title: Re: I have returned..?
Post by: Cavebear on February 22, 2019, 04:14:55 PM
Quote from: Baruch on February 22, 2019, 01:12:42 PM
Figure you would claim to be your own breed of uber-mensch ;-(  My life experience got broadened beyond work.

The seven deadly virtues, those ghastly little traps
Oh no, my liege, they were not meant for me
Those seven deadly virtues were made for other chaps
Who love a life of failure and ennui
Take courage-now there's a sport
An invitation to the state of rigor mort
And purity-a noble yen
And very restful every now and then
I find humility means to be hurt
It's not the earth the meek inherit, it's the dirt
Honesty is fatal, it should be taboo
Diligence-a fate I would hate
If charity means giving, I give it to you
And fidelity is only for your mate
You'll never find a virtue unstatusing my quo or making my Beelzebubble burst
Let others take the high road, I will take the low
I cannot wait to rush in where angels fear to go
With all those seven deadly virtues free and happy little me has not been cursed!

I thought you might enjoy that.

But I'm the opposite...
Title: Re: I have returned..?
Post by: Baruch on February 22, 2019, 06:24:51 PM
Nietzsche would approve that poem.  And no, I don't think you are his follower either.
Title: Re: I have returned..?
Post by: Cavebear on February 22, 2019, 07:58:55 PM
Quote from: Baruch on February 22, 2019, 06:24:51 PM
Nietzsche would approve that poem.  And no, I don't think you are his follower either.

Yeah, mostly Kant and a touch of Hume...
Title: Re: I have returned..?
Post by: Mike Cl on February 23, 2019, 09:40:49 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on February 22, 2019, 07:58:55 PM
Yeah, mostly Kant and a touch of Hume...
I prefer kraut and a touch of sausage.................
Title: Re: I have returned..?
Post by: Cavebear on February 26, 2019, 08:56:46 AM
Quote from: Mike Cl on February 23, 2019, 09:40:49 AM
I prefer kraut and a touch of sausage.................

Well, I like maple sausage with my over easy eggs.  Toast, hash browns.