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Title: Actual conservative scholarship ...
Post by: Baruch on January 07, 2019, 08:21:21 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CaRK_O5GM0

A great historian.

Nuke both coasts.
Title: Re: Actual conservative scholarship ...
Post by: SoldierofFortune on January 07, 2019, 10:19:57 PM
What is globalized project?

Nuking is no longer an alternative in war...And it must not be... If we intent to live on this planet longer...

By the way, i am a believer in globalization...
Title: Re: Actual conservative scholarship ...
Post by: Minimalist on January 07, 2019, 11:08:27 PM
The WLB is a classic tragedy.
Title: Re: Actual conservative scholarship ...
Post by: pr126 on January 08, 2019, 02:56:41 AM
SoldierofFortune wrote

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By the way, i am a believer in globalization...

The making of the perfect utopia.
No more hunger, no more wars, just one big happy planet.

What could go wrong?


Title: Re: Actual conservative scholarship ...
Post by: SoldierofFortune on January 08, 2019, 03:34:01 AM
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SoldierofFortune wrote

The making of the perfect utopia.
No more hunger, no more wars, just one big happy planet.

What could go wrong?

We are already living in a ''global empire''...
But it just needs to be announced...

In historical progress, the humanity haven't been that close to the foundation of the global empire...

Alexander the great tried to realize; Ottomans tried...British empire was too close to creat...But I do not know why they voluntarily transferred the mission to the USA... And the USA like administering the colonies by bringing so-called elected leaders...the leaders actually belonging to them...

Title: Re: Actual conservative scholarship ...
Post by: Shiranu on January 08, 2019, 04:26:39 AM
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SoldierofFortune wrote

The making of the perfect utopia.
No more hunger, no more wars, just one big happy planet.

What could go wrong?




Would you rather run in a world run by the capitalistic democracies of the West, or by the Chinese and their communist/capitalist hybrid and unitary party system?

Because for the foreseeable future that is the two options. Like the Industrial Revolution you can stomp your foot and pout that the world is changing too fast and you want to go back to the good ol' days, but ultimately the world is a global economy and a global society... and if Europeans don't place themselves on top of that system, the Chinese will.

The world you want, shit the world I want, is gone... it died decades ago and will never come back.

Look at Brexit... agree with or not, what problems is it ACTUALLY going to solve? Do you think the world will leave Britain alone as you try to hide in your bubble, that it will treat you fairly and never bother you? Sure, you might get some charade of independence back, but ultimately your economy, your society is still utterly tied to the global society. Your individuality is dead.

There is no escaping globalism, so it does no good to cry about how evil it is. The best you can do is make sure that, in said global economy and societies, you are the one with the most power... and pretending you aren't going to play the game doesn't mean the rest of the world will stop playing as well. It just means you are that much easier to walk over.

Title: Re: Actual conservative scholarship ...
Post by: Baruch on January 08, 2019, 04:53:54 AM
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We are already living in a ''global empire''...
But it just needs to be announced...

In historical progress, the humanity haven't been that close to the foundation of the global empire...

Alexander the great tried to realize; Ottomans tried...British empire was too close to creat...But I do not know why they voluntarily transferred the mission to the USA... And the USA like administering the colonies by bringing so-called elected leaders...the leaders actually belonging to them...

You are owned by Jewish masters ... some say.  I say, I don't care who they are ... kill the bastards.  And no, we can't be one happy village.  We don't want to live together even the same kind of people, in big cities.  There is no morality.  Nothing wrong with nukes or genocide by other means.  It isn't enough that you are not alive, if there is nothing you will die for, but you need to be willing to get down off your monastery belfry and kill.

Don't be Lord Halifax.  Choose your inner Churchill ... psychopathology is an evolutionary ability

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFi7bWkyRpA

For an American, life is a Western ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJCSNIl2Pls

The moment of truth is coming ...

Title: Re: Actual conservative scholarship ...
Post by: Baruch on January 08, 2019, 04:55:08 AM
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Would you rather run in a world run by the capitalistic democracies of the West, or by the Chinese and their communist/capitalist hybrid and unitary party system?

Because for the foreseeable future that is the two options. Like the Industrial Revolution you can stomp your foot and pout that the world is changing too fast and you want to go back to the good ol' days, but ultimately the world is a global economy and a global society... and if Europeans don't place themselves on top of that system, the Chinese will.

The world you want, shit the world I want, is gone... it died decades ago and will never come back.

Look at Brexit... agree with or not, what problems is it ACTUALLY going to solve? Do you think the world will leave Britain alone as you try to hide in your bubble, that it will treat you fairly and never bother you? Sure, you might get some charade of independence back, but ultimately your economy, your society is still utterly tied to the global society. Your individuality is dead.

There is no escaping globalism, so it does no good to cry about how evil it is. The best you can do is make sure that, in said global economy and societies, you are the one with the most power... and pretending you aren't going to play the game doesn't mean the rest of the world will stop playing as well. It just means you are that much easier to walk over.

Hitler is the master race, Stalin is the ultimate history ... no point in resisting.  You might not get enough time to binge watch Netflicks.
Title: Re: Actual conservative scholarship ...
Post by: pr126 on January 08, 2019, 05:01:12 AM
It will not matter much to me either way. I am too old.
My next stop will be the crematorium.

You can have all the utopia you want. Hope you'll like it.
You will have no choice in the matter.
Title: Re: Actual conservative scholarship ...
Post by: Baruch on January 08, 2019, 05:09:54 AM
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It will not matter much to me either way. I am too old.
My next stop will be the crematorium.

You can have all the utopia you want. Hope you'll like it.
You will have no choice in the matter.

Don't go silently into the night, rage against the darkness ... in men's hearts.
Title: Re: Actual conservative scholarship ...
Post by: Baruch on January 08, 2019, 05:37:18 AM
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What is globalized project?

Nuking is no longer an alternative in war...And it must not be... If we intent to live on this planet longer...

By the way, i am a believer in globalization...

Find your pride, your manhood ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzYM1VImKyM
Title: Re: Actual conservative scholarship ...
Post by: SoldierofFortune on January 08, 2019, 06:04:12 AM
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Find your pride, your manhood ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzYM1VImKyM

I am not proud of the Ottomans...
I am proud of the new Turkish Republic...founded by Atatürk but the republic was fucked up...And there is no way to cure..
Actually i am proud of being a member of the broad humanity family...
Once upon a time i was a Turk nationalist but since i was aware that i am not an ethnical Turk, i am in doubt...But still when i watch the real footages from Turkish independence war, it affects me in some way...
Although i grew up in Turkey and my mother tongue is Turkish, i don't feel like i am from Turkey...Though i am from Turkey... : D
Title: Re: Actual conservative scholarship ...
Post by: Baruch on January 08, 2019, 06:09:02 AM
This is a common problem.  I am both American and not American.  And of mixed ancestry ... so no real ethnocentrism for me.
Title: Re: Actual conservative scholarship ...
Post by: Cavebear on January 30, 2019, 02:15:52 AM
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Would you rather run in a world run by the capitalistic democracies of the West, or by the Chinese and their communist/capitalist hybrid and unitary party system?

Because for the foreseeable future that is the two options. Like the Industrial Revolution you can stomp your foot and pout that the world is changing too fast and you want to go back to the good ol' days, but ultimately the world is a global economy and a global society... and if Europeans don't place themselves on top of that system, the Chinese will.

The world you want, shit the world I want, is gone... it died decades ago and will never come back.

Look at Brexit... agree with or not, what problems is it ACTUALLY going to solve? Do you think the world will leave Britain alone as you try to hide in your bubble, that it will treat you fairly and never bother you? Sure, you might get some charade of independence back, but ultimately your economy, your society is still utterly tied to the global society. Your individuality is dead.

There is no escaping globalism, so it does no good to cry about how evil it is. The best you can do is make sure that, in said global economy and societies, you are the one with the most power... and pretending you aren't going to play the game doesn't mean the rest of the world will stop playing as well. It just means you are that much easier to walk over.

It is not an either/or choice.  There are other systems.  Social Democracy combines some benefits of both capitalism and socialism, while avoiding some of the weaknesses.




Title: Re: Actual conservative scholarship ...
Post by: Baruch on January 30, 2019, 07:13:01 AM
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It is not an either/or choice.  There are other systems.  Social Democracy combines some benefits of both capitalism and socialism, while avoiding some of the weaknesses.

Yes, like FDR.  But he is, and his D party is ... long dead.  That isn't what is being advocated.  It is full on Trotsky Marxism.  And I don't mean the top-level tax rate on the rich.  It used to be quite high, under FDR style Democrats.  JFK changed that.
Title: Re: Actual conservative scholarship ...
Post by: Cavebear on January 30, 2019, 07:50:38 AM
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Yes, like FDR.  But he is, and his D party is ... long dead.  That isn't what is being advocated.  It is full on Trotsky Marxism.  And I don't mean the top-level tax rate on the rich.  It used to be quite high, under FDR style Democrats.  JFK changed that.

That was income, as you know perfectly well.  This is about assets.  Whole different thing.  Don't you ever get tired of being wrong all the time?
Title: Re: Actual conservative scholarship ...
Post by: Baruch on January 30, 2019, 08:39:28 PM
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That was income, as you know perfectly well.  This is about assets.  Whole different thing.  Don't you ever get tired of being wrong all the time?

Do you get dizzy dodging and weaving so much?  Yes, some advocate asset tax.  But that didn't get brought up, in this string, until you did.
Title: Re: Actual conservative scholarship ...
Post by: Cavebear on February 22, 2019, 04:36:59 PM
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Do you get dizzy dodging and weaving so much?  Yes, some advocate asset tax.  But that didn't get brought up, in this string, until you did.

You object to new ideas?  I thought you previously claimed to thrive on them.
Title: Re: Actual conservative scholarship ...
Post by: Baruch on February 22, 2019, 06:42:09 PM
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You object to new ideas?  I thought you previously claimed to thrive on them.

I would be happy to seize all your assets ... if I were gay ;-)