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Title: How the universe is working ? A big confusion is in my head. Does GOD exists ?
Post by: faizanyousafzai1122 on January 03, 2019, 06:51:12 PM
I am new here literally just want to study new stuff

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Title: Re: How the universe is working ? A big confusion is in my head. Does GOD exists ?
Post by: Mr.Obvious on January 03, 2019, 07:00:12 PM
Study what?

Also; welcome.
Title: Re: How the universe is working ? A big confusion is in my head. Does GOD exists ?
Post by: Baruch on January 03, 2019, 07:00:41 PM
Quote from: faizanyousafzai1122 on January 03, 2019, 06:51:12 PM
I am new here literally just want to study new stuff

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Welcome.

Clockwork.  Once the universe gets going, it just keeps on going the same way ... like the mechanical bunny.
Title: Re: How the universe is working ? A big confusion is in my head. Does GOD exists ?
Post by: Unbeliever on January 03, 2019, 07:09:02 PM
Well, this is an odd place to ask if God exists, since the answer is pretty much foreordained.

And how the universe works? No one knows much about that, yet.
Title: Re: How the universe is working ? A big confusion is in my head. Does GOD exists ?
Post by: Baruch on January 03, 2019, 07:11:41 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on January 03, 2019, 07:09:02 PM
Well, this is an odd place to ask if God exists, since the answer is pretty much foreordained.

And how the universe works? No one knows much about that, yet.

I suspect that the universe has a bad work ethic too.  The whole Big Bang is like socialist economics ... a free lunch.
Title: Re: How the universe is working ? A big confusion is in my head. Does GOD exists ?
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on January 03, 2019, 07:57:34 PM
I'm sensing another preacher. 
Title: Re: How the universe is working ? A big confusion is in my head. Does GOD exists ?
Post by: Unbeliever on January 03, 2019, 08:14:29 PM
I wonder how strong the farce will be in this one?
Title: Re: How the universe is working ? A big confusion is in my head. Does GOD exists ?
Post by: Hydra009 on January 03, 2019, 08:20:07 PM
The answer is 42.  Now all I have to do is figure out the question.
Title: Re: How the universe is working ? A big confusion is in my head. Does GOD exists ?
Post by: Unbeliever on January 03, 2019, 08:35:19 PM
I think the question concerns the chucking of wood by woodchucks - if, that is, they can chuck wood..
Title: Re: How the universe is working ? A big confusion is in my head. Does GOD exists ?
Post by: Sal1981 on January 03, 2019, 09:12:07 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on January 03, 2019, 08:35:19 PM
I think the question concerns the chucking of wood by woodchucks - if, that is, they can chuck wood..
They have too little beaks to do that.
Title: Re: How the universe is working ? A big confusion is in my head. Does GOD exists ?
Post by: aitm on January 03, 2019, 09:34:04 PM
Son, have you got in touch with your consciousness yet?  Do you understand that our matter does not matter, the universe instills in us a unique and distinct consciousness that allows us to be one with........we don't know with what yet......could be a tribble.....or not. Or maybe a gas cloud.
Title: Re: How the universe is working ? A big confusion is in my head. Does GOD exists ?
Post by: pr126 on January 04, 2019, 01:55:45 AM
Quote from: Baruch on January 03, 2019, 07:00:41 PM
Welcome.

Clockwork.  Once the universe gets going, it just keeps on going the same way ... like the mechanical bunny.


Clockwork Orange.




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Title: Re: How the universe is working ? A big confusion is in my head. Does GOD exists ?
Post by: Minimalist on January 04, 2019, 02:44:18 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on January 03, 2019, 07:09:02 PM
Well, this is an odd place to ask if God exists, since the answer is pretty much foreordained.

And how the universe works? No one knows much about that, yet.


You're an optimist.  Who says it "works?"  It might be getting ready to fall over a cliff and there would be fuckall we could do about it!
Title: Re: How the universe is working ? A big confusion is in my head. Does GOD exists ?
Post by: Unbeliever on January 04, 2019, 02:59:40 PM
Well, the universe generated me, so it works well. Once I'm no longer existent the universe may cease to work, and more power to it.




;-)
Title: Re: How the universe is working ? A big confusion is in my head. Does GOD exists ?
Post by: Mike Cl on January 04, 2019, 06:33:07 PM
Well, 1122, as the Universal Soldier, he may know.  If there is a big confusion in your head, pull the plug and let it out.  All gods are fictions, so none exist. 

And welcome to the land of unconfusion.....stay and play.
Title: Re: How the universe is working ? A big confusion is in my head. Does GOD exists ?
Post by: SGOS on January 04, 2019, 06:51:29 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on January 03, 2019, 07:09:02 PM
Well, this is an odd place to ask if God exists, since the answer is pretty much foreordained.
I've never given this question any thought before, but you know...?  Now that someone has finally asked, I think God must exist.  How else can I explain all this stuff?
Title: Re: How the universe is working ? A big confusion is in my head. Does GOD exists ?
Post by: Unbeliever on January 04, 2019, 07:05:36 PM
Nothing to explain - it's all in yo head!
Title: Re: How the universe is working ? A big confusion is in my head. Does GOD exists ?
Post by: Baruch on January 04, 2019, 07:10:50 PM
Quote from: Mike Cl on January 04, 2019, 06:33:07 PM
Well, 1122, as the Universal Soldier, he may know.  If there is a big confusion in your head, pull the plug and let it out.  All gods are fictions, so none exist. 

And welcome to the land of unconfusion.....stay and play.

All nations are fictions, they don't exist - Universal Anarchist.
Title: Re: How the universe is working ? A big confusion is in my head. Does GOD exists ?
Post by: Baruch on January 04, 2019, 07:12:06 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on January 04, 2019, 02:59:40 PM
Well, the universe generated me, so it works well. Once I'm no longer existent the universe may cease to work, and more power to it.




;-)

The exception proves the rule, once again.  And your second sentence says ... solipsist.

On the other hand, if reality is a computer simulation, and you are the computer.  I definitely want you unplugged ;-)
Title: Re: How the universe is working ? A big confusion is in my head. Does GOD exists ?
Post by: Baruch on January 04, 2019, 07:13:23 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on January 04, 2019, 07:05:36 PM
Nothing to explain - it's all in yo head!

Wrong answer.  Your head doesn't exist.  You don't exist.  So "your head" is meaningless monkey chatter.
Title: Re: How the universe is working ? A big confusion is in my head. Does GOD exists ?
Post by: Unbeliever on January 04, 2019, 07:33:04 PM
Yeah, but it's fun to write random shit with a keyboard!

Maybe we'll eventually produce the Urantia (https://www.urantia.org/urantia-book/read-urantia-book-online) book.
Title: Re: How the universe is working ? A big confusion is in my head. Does GOD exists ?
Post by: Baruch on January 05, 2019, 12:29:49 AM
Quote from: Unbeliever on January 04, 2019, 07:33:04 PM
Yeah, but it's fun to write random shit with a keyboard!

Maybe we'll eventually produce the Urantia (https://www.urantia.org/urantia-book/read-urantia-book-online) book.

There are no true random events, just events too complicated for a monkey to understand.  And I don't see any random typing here, except when someone is simulating an explicative deleted ;-)
Title: Re: How the universe is working ? A big confusion is in my head. Does GOD exists ?
Post by: Cavebear on January 05, 2019, 04:14:00 AM
IN THE BEGINNING, Iluvabargle opened a hole in ITS sense of existence and sent its thoughts into it.  The creatures of his powerful mind sang to ITS glory.  Some of those who sang the best, IT sent into the new world, and damned if horrible things happened.  So IT shut off the hole IT created and asked if ITS CREATORS would let IT try again.  And wisely IT and IT and IT did not!
Title: Re: How the universe is working ? A big confusion is in my head. Does GOD exists ?
Post by: Baruch on January 05, 2019, 05:07:21 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on January 05, 2019, 04:14:00 AM
IN THE BEGINNING, Iluvabargle opened a hole in ITS sense of existence and sent its thoughts into it.  The creatures of his powerful mind sang to ITS glory.  Some of those who sang the best, IT sent into the new world, and damned if horrible things happened.  So IT shut off the hole IT created and asked if ITS CREATORS would let IT try again.  And wisely IT and IT and IT did not!

Ouroboros ... the dragon eating its own tail.
Title: Re: How the universe is working ? A big confusion is in my head. Does GOD exists ?
Post by: trdsf on January 06, 2019, 03:48:46 AM
Short answer: Almost certainly not.  Odds of ε (https://www.reference.com/math/epsilon-math-50f3fe1917ffc8b6)% at the most optimistic.  I am required to admit that much for accuracy's sake.

Long answer: Certainly not any of the anthropomorphic and semi-anthropomorphic ones of Western mythology, particularly the invisible sky-daddy of Zoroastrian/Judaic/Christian/Islamic myths.  While I am not as well read on African and Eastern mythologies, I suggest they are just as fictional because the evidence is just as non-existent.

The strongest claim one might conceivably make for any form of deity is an extreme deist model in which the only action of this supernatural being is to set the universe off and have no further interaction with its structure, contents or inhabitants.  This of course not differentiable from no god at all and Occam's Razor compels us to accept the no-god explanation as the more probable because it's the simpler of the two.

Claiming a god exists under that scenario is like claiming neutrons are orange, and about as sensible; claiming a personal god exists under that scenario is like claiming the orange neutrons are singing to you.
Title: Re: How the universe is working ? A big confusion is in my head. Does GOD exists ?
Post by: Baruch on January 06, 2019, 04:11:04 AM
Billions of personal demi-gods say .. no.
Title: Re: How the universe is working ? A big confusion is in my head. Does GOD exists ?
Post by: aitm on January 06, 2019, 10:13:16 PM
sorry I re-read your title. You have a big confusion in your head. Get that fixed and you'll be fine.
Title: Re: How the universe is working ? A big confusion is in my head. Does GOD exists ?
Post by: Cavebear on January 09, 2019, 12:10:34 AM
Quote from: aitm on January 06, 2019, 10:13:16 PM
sorry I re-read your title. You have a big confusion in your head. Get that fixed and you'll be fine.

Just another confused theist looking for a way to get at atheists...