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Title: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Minimalist on January 03, 2019, 10:27:49 AM
The Great Gun Nut thread

Kids and guns....never a good mix in Gun Nut Nation.

https://nypost.com/2019/01/03/teen-commits-suicide-after-accidentally-shooting-friend-cops/

QuoteTeen commits suicide after accidentally shooting friend: cops

QuoteA Georgia teen took his own life after he shot and killed his friend in a New Year’s Eve accident, according to police.

Gwinnett County Police said Devin Hodges, 15, was showing off the gun to three other pals Monday afternoon in Lawrenceville when he accidentally fired a shot.

Two for the price of one.

Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Baruch on January 03, 2019, 01:05:24 PM
Quote from: Minimalist on January 03, 2019, 10:27:49 AM
The Great Gun Nut thread

Kids and guns....never a good mix in Gun Nut Nation.

https://nypost.com/2019/01/03/teen-commits-suicide-after-accidentally-shooting-friend-cops/

Two for the price of one.

I prefer knife fights.  More action, more bloodshed, less death.  They can be patched up and put back in the arena to fight again.  Got gladiators?

I will be fine with disarming the government ... you should to, since you want the US cops to be disarmed UK bobbies.  Perhaps you can find Mary Poppins.
Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Unbeliever on January 03, 2019, 01:30:44 PM
I'm reading an interesting book, called The Trigger (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Trigger), by Arthur C. Clarke. It's about a hopeful, accidentally discovered "trigger" that can detonate nitrate-based explosives, such as gun ammo and various other explosives. The scientists want it to be used to stop all gun violence in the world, while the government - well, it's the government, and so has other ideas.
Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Baruch on January 03, 2019, 01:33:24 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on January 03, 2019, 01:30:44 PM
I'm reading an interesting book, called The Trigger (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Trigger), by Arthur C. Clarke. It's about a hopeful, accidentally discovered "trigger" that can detonate nitrate-based explosives, such as gun ammo and various other explosives. The scientists want it to be used to stop all gun violence in the world, while the government - well, it's the government, and so has other ideas.

Colossus: The Forbin Project ... unite both strategic AIs of the US and the USSR.  Nothing bad with happen from that.
Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Minimalist on January 03, 2019, 01:34:57 PM
I'm so sick of this "we need to have guns to protect us from the government" bullshit. 

(https://i.imgur.com/jw0xHDy.jpg)

Give it up, B.  It's a metric fuckton of nonsense.
Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Baruch on January 03, 2019, 01:38:49 PM
As a pro-government person ... I am happy if "you" disarm.  Some girls dig amputees ;-)
Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Hydra009 on January 03, 2019, 04:17:33 PM
On New Year's Eve, not too far from me, a woman was seriously wounded by celebratory gunfire (https://www.wral.com/celebratory-new-year-s-gunfire-seriously-wounds-unc-student-at-first-night-raleigh/18097245/).  (bottle rockets and roman candles are illegal around here because someone might get hurt)
Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Unbeliever on January 03, 2019, 04:20:35 PM
People fire their guns into the air, and don't realize that what goes up must come down. Unfortunately, they're not the ones who get hit by falling bullets.
Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Baruch on January 03, 2019, 06:41:40 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on January 03, 2019, 04:20:35 PM
People fire their guns into the air, and don't realize that what goes up must come down. Unfortunately, they're not the ones who get hit by falling bullets.

My dad and I did this once, with a 22 rifle.  Not a good idea ;-(
Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Baruch on January 03, 2019, 06:42:37 PM
Quote from: Hydra009 on January 03, 2019, 04:17:33 PM
On New Year's Eve, not too far from me, a woman was seriously wounded by celebratory gunfire (https://www.wral.com/celebratory-new-year-s-gunfire-seriously-wounds-unc-student-at-first-night-raleigh/18097245/).  (bottle rockets and roman candles are illegal around here because someone might get hurt)

Which is why you need to lose your car or truck.  Proles should walk.  It is good for you.
Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Cavebear on January 05, 2019, 02:53:49 AM
Quote from: Minimalist on January 03, 2019, 01:34:57 PM
I'm so sick of this "we need to have guns to protect us from the government" bullshit. 

(https://i.imgur.com/jw0xHDy.jpg)

Give it up, B.  It's a metric fuckton of nonsense.

Nice!  Every statistic shows that a family death by owning a gun is more likely than by facing one.  But the gun nuts think "yeah, but not ME".  And most of them are 2nd amendment fanatics.

A bizarre thing is that I might be a safe person to own a gun.  I live alone, no children or angry family member to worry about, and I'm not the least suicidal.  So naturally, I don't have one.
Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Baruch on January 05, 2019, 05:16:33 AM
Agreed regarding Wild West fantasies.  And I am safe with a gun also.  I take them very seriously.  We have never had a gun accident in our family.
Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on January 05, 2019, 05:33:36 AM
Yet.
Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: aitm on January 05, 2019, 06:06:31 AM
There is always a YET...for everyone... absolutely everyone.
Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Cavebear on January 05, 2019, 06:42:58 AM
Quote from: aitm on January 05, 2019, 06:06:31 AM
There is always a YET...for everyone... absolutely everyone.

Well, I do have a few Gladiuses hidden around the house.  Do they count?  And it would take a crazy person to attack a chef near his knife block.  You wouldn't believe how evil a deli-knife is.

But I keep all the doors locked all day.  And with sturdy bars across the deck doors. 

Actually, no, the vast majority of people will never experience a break in.  That is mostly a fear of people who watch too much Fox News.
Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on January 05, 2019, 07:33:39 AM
Quote from: aitm on January 05, 2019, 06:06:31 AM
There is always a YET...for everyone... absolutely everyone.
Is the plural of YET YETI?
Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Cavebear on January 05, 2019, 07:47:15 AM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on January 05, 2019, 07:33:39 AM
Is the plural of YET YETI?

Latin declension:

Yet
Yetas
Yemat
Yetamus
Yetamis
Yemant

LOL
Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on January 05, 2019, 07:52:37 AM
I don't do dead languages, like Latin, or COBOL.
Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Cavebear on January 05, 2019, 08:14:38 AM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on January 05, 2019, 07:52:37 AM
I don't do dead languages, like Latin, or COBOL.

I found Latin easier to understand than the stream of near gibberish of "conversational Spanish".  At least I learned a lot about English fro my Latin classes (aside from trying to make Hannibal carry his elephants across the Alps). 

And I'll go with Fortran or Basic over Cobol any day (well, "back then" of course).  I mastered each and even helped my classmates in COBOL, but I never liked it.  COBOL is structured, Fortran is logical. 

To this day, I often solve problems using flow charts, and I associate them with Fortran.

Quick story.  In an office completely unrelated to computer programming, the Boss mentioned the Holiday Party the next day would have teens of co-workers attending and to try and think of things that might keep them busy. 

So I wrote a "hangman" game in Fortran in an hour with a 100 word random matrix.  The teens loved it, my Boss was impressed as Hell, and *I* got stuck doing "that new computer management stuff" for the next couple years. 
Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on January 05, 2019, 09:07:42 AM
I was Radm. Grace Hopper's driver one day back in 1988. She had helped develop COBOL and she told she was stunned to realize that it would out live her. "Just a program to make do until real programs were ready."
Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: aitm on January 05, 2019, 09:27:34 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on January 05, 2019, 06:42:58 AM
  That is mostly a fear of people who watch too much Fox News.
my "YET" was the universal "YET" to be applied to any and all occasions dealing with anything in particular. For gun owners always a YET, for cooks always a YET, for motor cycle riders always a YET. To be applied to anyone who steadfastly declares that for the general population if a person follows A,B,C almost always they will always avoid the YET. It is an unsubstantiated claim that inevitably is whacked upside the noggin with a YET.
Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Cavebear on January 05, 2019, 09:30:44 AM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on January 05, 2019, 09:07:42 AM
I was Radm. Grace Hopper's driver one day back in 1988. She had helped develop COBOL and she told she was stunned to realize that it would out live her. "Just a program to make do until real programs were ready."

An "admirable" person, and how special you got to be near her.  I can understand why you like COBOL.  :)
Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on January 05, 2019, 10:03:53 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on January 05, 2019, 09:30:44 AM
An "admirable" person, and how special you got to be near her.  I can understand why you like COBOL.  :)
I hate COBOL. It's for computer literates.
Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Cavebear on January 05, 2019, 10:17:39 AM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on January 05, 2019, 10:03:53 AM
I hate COBOL. It's for computer literates.

O KAY...  Did I mistake you for someone else?
Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Baruch on January 05, 2019, 10:49:24 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on January 05, 2019, 10:17:39 AM
O KAY...  Did I mistake you for someone else?

Lords of Cobol, from Battlestar Galactica ;-)
Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on January 05, 2019, 11:14:34 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on January 05, 2019, 10:17:39 AM
O KAY...  Did I mistake you for someone else?
If you heard someone say COBOL was a good program, yes.
Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Minimalist on January 05, 2019, 11:36:25 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on January 05, 2019, 07:47:15 AM
Latin declension:

Yet
Yetas
Yemat
Yetamus
Yetamis
Yemant

LOL



"If its not done by sunrise I'll cut your balls off."

Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Minimalist on January 05, 2019, 11:39:45 AM
Now bowling is dangerous....

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/05/us/california-shooting-torrence.html?partner=rss&emc=rss

QuoteBowling Alley Shooting in California Leaves 3 Dead and 4 Injured

Fear not, the republicunts know what to do.

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-TGvYqr0AUUA/V2ALU-_vECI/AAAAAAAAOgY/krmo8dDLdTErJCp3fPD_3KEKZTEdrEtrgCLcB/s1600/crmlu160614.gif)


Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Cavebear on January 05, 2019, 11:41:49 AM
Quote from: Minimalist on January 05, 2019, 11:36:25 AM


"If its not done by sunrise I'll cut your balls off."

WHAT?
Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Unbeliever on January 05, 2019, 01:50:22 PM
No one is safe - ever. If it's not guns it'll be something else, like heart attacks or auto accidents or meteors (or gringos?) falling from the sky. Maybe self-driving cars will decrease the number of auto-related deaths and injuries, but nothing comparable is likely going to be available for guns, since self-shooting guns won't work well. The gun nuts don't like the idea of biometric safeties for guns, either, so that's unlikely to help.

I figure I won't be safe until I'm covered by six feet of dirt.
Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Minimalist on January 05, 2019, 01:58:08 PM
Quote from: Cavebear on January 05, 2019, 11:41:49 AM
WHAT?


Don't tell me that you've never seen "Life of Brian," either?
Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on January 05, 2019, 02:23:49 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on January 05, 2019, 01:50:22 PM
No one is safe - ever. If it's not guns it'll be something else, like heart attacks or auto accidents or meteors (or gringos?) falling from the sky. Maybe self-driving cars will decrease the number of auto-related deaths and injuries, but nothing comparable is likely going to be available for guns, since self-shooting guns won't work well. The gun nuts don't like the idea of biometric safeties for guns, either, so that's unlikely to help.

I figure I won't be safe until I'm covered by six feet of dirt.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/12/17/guns-are-now-killing-as-many-people-as-cars-in-the-u-s/?utm_term=.9617be974d7a
Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Cavebear on January 05, 2019, 02:26:23 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on January 05, 2019, 01:50:22 PM
No one is safe - ever. If it's not guns it'll be something else, like heart attacks or auto accidents or meteors (or gringos?) falling from the sky. Maybe self-driving cars will decrease the number of auto-related deaths and injuries, but nothing comparable is likely going to be available for guns, since self-shooting guns won't work well. The gun nuts don't like the idea of biometric safeties for guns, either, so that's unlikely to help.

I figure I won't be safe until I'm covered by six feet of dirt.

It all depends on the odds.  If I'm not likely to have a heart attack, then I worry about guns or distracted drivers. 

If our normal lifetime was 1,000 years, do you think there would be adjacent lane highways?  If we lived 10 years, would anyone worry about cancer?  A lot depends on insurance statistics, meaning what is most likely to kill us before average.

I suspect we mostly worry about things that aren't likely to kill us.  But that doesn't mean I don't want to reduce some of those. 

MEANING, if self driving cars kill 1% of us and save 2%, bring them on!
Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Baruch on January 05, 2019, 02:52:53 PM
Quote from: Minimalist on January 05, 2019, 11:39:45 AM
Now bowling is dangerous....

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/05/us/california-shooting-torrence.html?partner=rss&emc=rss

Fear not, the republicunts know what to do.

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-TGvYqr0AUUA/V2ALU-_vECI/AAAAAAAAOgY/krmo8dDLdTErJCp3fPD_3KEKZTEdrEtrgCLcB/s1600/crmlu160614.gif)

The Democrats do too.  Send their regiments of gray wool rebel socialists against Ft Sumter.