https://www.koco.com/article/music-producer-claims-racial-profiling-by-metro-deputy/25615834
This shit happens all the time in 'Murrica. The fucking cops are out of control. This guy is lucky they didn't just shoot him.
QuoteOKLAHOMA CITY â€"
Harvey Miller is known in the music industry as DJ Speedy.
Miller was driving Thursday morning from his home in Atlanta to his home in Los Angeles when an Oklahoma County Sheriff's Office deputy pulled him over on Interstate 40 near Interstate 44. According to court documents, he was stopped for not putting on his turn signal a full 100 feet before he changed lanes.
"I was racially profiled. Plain as day. No way around it," Miller said. "He went in with the questions of, 'Where are you going? What's in your car?'"
QuoteDeputies found more than $149,000 in cash and claimed the vehicle smelled like marijuana, court documents stated. Miller told the deputies the money they found was collected for his work as a music producer.
Miller was arrested on complaints of possession of drug proceeds and possession of a forged counterfeit note after a fake $20 bill was found. He released after 12 hours in jail, and Miller now wants his money back and his clean record restored.
Totally legal now. $4.5 billion per year are raked in by police departments. Greater take per year than all burglaries combined.
Suggestion ... never carry much cash on you. Use a cashiers check already made out.
First off I agree with you that a lot of things can go wrong when you carry cash.
However, having it stolen by law-enforcement thugs should not be one of them.
Yeah, this reminds me of those cops in Baltimore who were ripping people off left and right (http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/crime/bs-md-ci-gttf-verdict-20180208-story.html).
Cops have been stealing for centuries, and they've been getting away with it. It's time we put a stop to that shit.
That isn't all they do.
https://youtu.be/uBMfzs9Nf7s (https://youtu.be/uBMfzs9Nf7s)
While I'm not normally a big firearms guy, this kind of thing really makes me thing the citizenry should be arming itself. If the government is too corrupt to put a stop to this, then maybe the fear of bullets will. I personally refuse to carry much cash because I'm afraid of being robbed by the police in the name of a failed drug war.
Quote from: _Xenu_ on December 19, 2018, 03:04:20 PM
While I'm not normally a big firearms guy, this kind of thing really makes me thing the citizenry should be arming itself. If the government is too corrupt to put a stop to this, then maybe the fear of bullets will. I personally refuse to carry much cash because I'm afraid of being robbed by the police in the name of a failed drug war.
Brilliant. Give the cops a GOOD reason to shoot you. I'll send flowers.
They don't need a good reason. For minorities a broken tail light seems sufficient.
Hell, they don't even need a broken tail light, they just make shit up, lying about a stop sign that they didn't stop for, or they didn't signal a turn in time, or some other crap.
Quote from: Minimalist on December 19, 2018, 01:15:34 PM
First off I agree with you that a lot of things can go wrong when you carry cash.
However, having it stolen by law-enforcement thugs should not be one of them.
Eminent domain. All your past, present and future stuff belongs to the government ... they're merely reclaiming what is already theirs. This will also include your girlfriend, boyfriend and family members.
The whole police/citizen relationship has gone totally out of control. Criminals are too well-armed, but the police have gone into "kill first and let the courts decide later" mode. Innocent people get killed for no reason, but the police feel they have little choice. It is all wrong.
We need fewer guns. The obvious solution is to stop manufacturing them. Second is to collect the guns that aren't needed for hunting (which I support in general). I know idea of disarming the nation is not popular among some groups, but we have reached a situation where it has to be considered.
I've been a deer-hunter. If you can't get one in the East with a shotgun slug, you don't deserve to. They are fine to 50 yards. So is a hunting bow or crossbow. In areas where deer are in more open territority like the West, fine, have a single shot rifle.
What you don't need is an AK-47 or a pistol. And if you need a multi-round semi-auto, you need to improve your skills not your armament.
And if your joy is banging out machine gun fire, do it in a place dedicated to the "sport" where you rent the armaments instead of owning them. But consider just buying a CD of all the noise. And I'll bet that someone will sell you a machine gun simulator with all the shoulder-slamming you want...
I'm tired of the police killing unarmed people. But maybe the best way to reduce that would be if they didn't have to worry that every person they met was armed.
On any given day Americans have ~1/110,000,000 chance of being killed by a police officer. That's for any reason.
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on December 21, 2018, 08:28:33 AM
On any given day Americans have ~1/110,000,000 chance of being killed by a police officer. That's for any reason.
The source of that claim would be good. But that's about the same as most lottery games, and people think it will happen.
Quote from: Cavebear on December 21, 2018, 08:45:12 AM
The source of that claim would be good. But that's about the same as most lottery games, and people think it will happen.
And they're almost always wrong.
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on December 21, 2018, 08:48:20 AM
And they're almost always wrong.
I save money everyday that I don't play the lotteries. Lotteries are for people who are bad at math. Sure, some rare people win big and I sure envy them. But most people lose and I resent having to pay for their food stamps. I don't say that lightly. The biggest lottery players are also the most poverty-stricken and my taxes are supporting them. And mostly it is a false hope for them. That's cruel.
And this relates to "cop's as wild killers" mythology in what fashion?
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on December 21, 2018, 09:13:28 AM
And this relates to "cop's as wild killers" mythology in what fashion?
When people around the person scream that "he has no gun" and he is shot for holding a cell phone.
When people around the person scream that "he has no drugs" and he is shot because he held an open wallet showing his ID.
When people around him scream that "he is having a seizure" and they shoot him anyway.
When video shows that the person "attacking them" was running away.
When "the attacker" was shot in the back".
When video shows a police officer planting a small bag of grass near the body.
When the victims always seem to be a minority person.
Want me to go on...?
Ah, you want perfect behaviour from 800,00-1,000,000 people. Guess what, that's never going to happen. Cops are humans.
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on December 21, 2018, 10:10:18 AM
Ah, you want perfect behaviour from 800,00-1,000,000 people. Guess what, that's never going to happen. Cops are humans.
They sure are. With biases unbecoming the job. Too many are protected when obviously guilty of sheer murder just because they can get away with it. There are walls groups construct where they ignore the bad actions of some. The Blue Wall is one.
Even liberals find groups to demonize.
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on December 21, 2018, 10:38:49 AM
Even liberals find groups to demonize.
I admire and respect the job of "police". But they don't act as they used to. Partly it is the introduction of military arms to them and who doesn't want to use that cool stuff? Which is exactly the problem.
When the police face criminals every day, they begin to think that everyone is a criminal. And they want to take down the "bad guys". I understand that. But when they internalize the group idea that EVERYONE is "the bad guy", they treat all citizens as if they were.
THAT is what has to stop.
Another internet furor.
The cops kill 3 per day on average. I agree with G/S that the odds of being shot by the cops are small but if you subtract out the people ( whites ) that they are not likely to gun down the odds get a lot worse for minorities.
https://theconversation.com/police-kill-about-3-men-per-day-in-the-us-according-to-new-study-100567
QuotePolice in the U.S. kill on average more than 1,000 men per year, or about three men per day. According to our estimates, police are responsible for about 8 percent of all adult male homicide deaths in the U.S. each year.
Somehow, other more civilized nations manage to avoid such carnage.
Quote from: Minimalist on December 21, 2018, 11:26:38 AM
The cops kill 3 per day on average. I agree with G/S that the odds of being shot by the cops are small but if you subtract out the people ( whites ) that they are not likely to gun down the odds get a lot worse for minorities.
https://theconversation.com/police-kill-about-3-men-per-day-in-the-us-according-to-new-study-100567
Somehow, other more civilized nations manage to avoid such carnage.
Yeah, its not the number but the social effect, especially when you are "the social effect". I can go about my business without much care (and seriously, it hardly crosses my mind). But my next door neighbor is always concerned about "driving while black". And for good reason.
To add to which we have the testimony of a US senator.....stopped 7 times over a year while a member of the senate!
https://www.minnpost.com/eric-black-ink/2016/07/driving-while-black-gop-sen-tim-scott-tells-his-experiences/
QuoteDriving while black: GOP Sen. Tim Scott tells of his experiences
Quote from: Minimalist on December 21, 2018, 11:58:40 AM
To add to which we have the testimony of a US senator.....stopped 7 times over a year while a member of the senate!
https://www.minnpost.com/eric-black-ink/2016/07/driving-while-black-gop-sen-tim-scott-tells-his-experiences/
Reality is sometimes the firmest proof...
Quote from: Minimalist on December 21, 2018, 11:26:38 AM
The cops kill 3 per day on average. I agree with G/S that the odds of being shot by the cops are small but if you subtract out the people ( whites ) that they are not likely to gun down the odds get a lot worse for minorities.
https://theconversation.com/police-kill-about-3-men-per-day-in-the-us-according-to-new-study-100567
Somehow, other more civilized nations manage to avoid such carnage.
Americans are animals. Other people are master-race.
I would stop every politician driving, about once a block. Until the lying thieving bastard resigns.
The problem seems to be that the animals are wearing blue.
Quote from: Minimalist on December 21, 2018, 09:58:58 PM
The problem seems to be that the animals are wearing blue.
They wear every color. BTW - policing started in GB, to protect the upper class from the proles. It has nothing to do with ... protecting the people.
All cops bad!
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on December 22, 2018, 06:20:54 AM
All cops bad!
All people bad. Start to ameliorate, by looking in the mirror. Oh, is that in the NT? Yes!
On the other hand, if you support the Justice system, you support the Upper Class. Which is nice, if you can afford it.
Mismanaged elitism leads to heads on pitchforks. And the French guards at Versailles couldn't even stop the fishwives.
Sweeping generalizations, not just for Trump.
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on December 22, 2018, 06:36:26 AM
Sweeping generalizations, not just for Trump.
History is a sweeping generalization. Mismanagement leads to disaster ... abuse leads to hostility. Or is that too general?
So if Trump (who is like the only person in the entire Federal government) mismanages or abuses ... then Biblical-like disaster follows? That lets all the rest of the government off the hook (or off the guillotine). This is a monarchial vision, as if King Louis was the only one responsible for the French Revolution. I would say, he was definitely involved, but hardly the only one.
Tell that to Frank Serpico.
All _______ are bad.
Quote from: Minimalist on December 22, 2018, 10:34:35 AM
Tell that to Frank Serpico.
There are bad people in every job description, even President of the US (see LBJ).
Quote from: Baruch on December 22, 2018, 12:54:55 PM
There are bad people in every job description, even President of the US (see LBJ).
No, no, no. All ______ are bad!
Banking while black is a way to have the cops called:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvD-HBkxluo
Anecdotal.
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on December 22, 2018, 02:40:15 PM
Anecdotal.
Careful what you say or do in a bank, or a Starbucks. No legitimate depositor would be refused service. But in general ... you can't get banking service (cash a check) unless you are a depositor, for example. If you aren't a depositor, then that is what pay-day loan sharks are for.
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on December 22, 2018, 06:20:54 AM
All cops bad!
Of course not, don't be an idiot! Most cops are dedicated to preserving the peace. Just as cops mostly tend to see the criminals in daily life, the rest of us only see the cops when things go wrong.
Yes, without any doubt, there are bad cops, there are cops you react badly, and there are cops who make bad judgements they never would normally make. We all do.
And on the other side, I get outraged when some cops assume any non-white person is a druggie or has a gun. Every time an innocent person is shot because they are holding a cell phone, I get livid in anger. And when people get shot in the back "while attacking" I scream in my head.
We have to change our police culture.
Arrest all the White people first, for all their White collar crime, that we don't think is criminal.
Quote from: Baruch on December 25, 2018, 11:51:13 PM
Arrest all the White people first, for all their White collar crime, that we don't think is criminal.
Sounds good to me. Stealing millions of retirement dollars from widows and orphans is worse than popping a crack at home any day in my book! Hang the white-collar thieves, let the addicts loose (with help, of course).
Quote from: Cavebear on December 26, 2018, 02:10:35 AM
Sounds good to me. Stealing millions of retirement dollars from widows and orphans is worse than popping a crack at home any day in my book! Hang the white-collar thieves, let the addicts loose (with help, of course).
See, we actually agree on some things ... bwahah.
Quote from: Baruch on December 26, 2018, 02:31:04 AM
See, we actually agree on some things ... bwahah.
I pretty much had you beat you into agreeing... The amazing thing is that you didn't find some dumb argument in disagreement just for the sake of disagreeing.
But you agreed, and I thank you for doing so.
Quote from: Cavebear on December 26, 2018, 02:34:52 AM
I pretty much had you beat you into agreeing... The amazing thing is that you didn't find some dumb argument in disagreement just for the sake of disagreeing.
But you agreed, and I thank you for doing so.
There are times when the agreement is so marginal ... that margarine is called for ...
Quote from: Baruch on December 26, 2018, 02:37:12 AM
There are times when the agreement is so marginal ... that margarine is called for ...
Don't try to butter me up... I'll go all olive oil on you.
Quote from: Cavebear on December 25, 2018, 09:15:50 PM
Of course not, don't be an idiot! Most cops are dedicated to preserving the peace. Just as cops mostly tend to see the criminals in daily life, the rest of us only see the cops when things go wrong.
Yes, without any doubt, there are bad cops, there are cops you react badly, and there are cops who make bad judgements they never would normally make. We all do.
And on the other side, I get outraged when some cops assume any non-white person is a druggie or has a gun. Every time an innocent person is shot because they are holding a cell phone, I get livid in anger. And when people get shot in the back "while attacking" I scream in my head.
We have to change our police culture.
You aren't in tune with the internet, where every cop is a killer or an enabler.
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on December 26, 2018, 07:46:47 AM
You aren't in tune with the internet, where every cop is a killer or an enabler.
Blue Lives Matter? I should hope so.
QuoteJust as cops mostly tend to see the criminals in daily life, the rest of us only see the cops when things go wrong.
Much like pervert priests, far too many cops will lie for their comrades who cross the line. I do not consider them good cops.
Quote from: Minimalist on December 27, 2018, 01:13:27 AM
Much like pervert priests, far too many cops will lie for their comrades who cross the line. I do not consider them good cops.
Tribalism is pretty universal. Each tribe should have a different color bone thru their noses ;-)
Quote from: Minimalist on December 27, 2018, 01:13:27 AM
Much like pervert priests, far too many cops will lie for their comrades who cross the line. I do not consider them good cops.
Got any hard numbers for "far too many"?
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on December 27, 2018, 11:44:02 AM
Got any hard numbers for "far too many"?
If is official policy to do Capital Seizure. It isn't illegal for a cop to do it, he is encouraged to do so. So he isn't bad doing it.
Quote from: Baruch on December 27, 2018, 01:01:18 PM
If is official policy to do Capital Seizure. It isn't illegal for a cop to do it, he is encouraged to do so. So he isn't bad doing it.
Is that you, Deepak?
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on December 27, 2018, 11:44:02 AM
Got any hard numbers for "far too many"?
In Chicago one cop emptied his clip at Laquann MacDonald after he allegedly "lunged" at him with a knife. The other nine fuckers who were there did not fire at all but all swore to Internal Affairs that MacDonald had in fact "lunged." When the video came out showing MacDonald staggering AWAY from the cops 7 of the 9 were fired and the other two retired immediately. So, I put the number at 90%. I suspect that if there had been more cops around the number of liars would have been higher but WTF. I'll settle for 90% liars and 10% racist murderers.
Quote from: Minimalist on December 27, 2018, 03:13:34 PM
In Chicago one cop emptied his clip at Laquann MacDonald after he allegedly "lunged" at him with a knife. The other nine fuckers who were there did not fire at all but all swore to Internal Affairs that MacDonald had in fact "lunged." When the video came out showing MacDonald staggering AWAY from the cops 7 of the 9 were fired and the other two retired immediately. So, I put the number at 90%. I suspect that if there had been more cops around the number of liars would have been higher but WTF. I'll settle for 90% liars and 10% racist murderers.
You need some valium. Five pounds, I think, will do the trick.
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on December 27, 2018, 01:31:49 PM
Is that you, Deepak?
It is the law, has been for several years. That and the SCOTUS supported a stronger eminent domain. The cops can take all your stuff, any time they like. You are discouraged from resisting. And if you disagree, you can go down to the police station and file a complaint. Never travel anywhere with a large amount of cash. Cashiers checks only.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_forfeiture_in_the_United_States
And yes, it IS due process. You are a citizen, you did or didn't vote. That means you agree to anything the government decides to do about you.
In the post to the new guy, I manifested thru YouTube all Three Jewels of Buddhism (triratna).
Quote from: Minimalist on December 27, 2018, 03:13:34 PM
In Chicago one cop emptied his clip at Laquann MacDonald after he allegedly "lunged" at him with a knife. The other nine fuckers who were there did not fire at all but all swore to Internal Affairs that MacDonald had in fact "lunged." When the video came out showing MacDonald staggering AWAY from the cops 7 of the 9 were fired and the other two retired immediately. So, I put the number at 90%. I suspect that if there had been more cops around the number of liars would have been higher but WTF. I'll settle for 90% liars and 10% racist murderers.
Multiple eye witnesses often disagree, in most cases. So I can't say what really happened, even if I was standing there. I do have my suspicions however. Be very careful around cops. These are Iraq war PTSD victims looking to just kill something.
But they didn't disagree. They all agreed with the one guy who blasted away. If they were so fucking scared why weren't they shooting?
That the video tape showed they were all full of shit is the only reason they are not still on the force.... doubtless killing other minorities whenever the fuck they feel like it.
Quote from: Minimalist on December 27, 2018, 07:29:03 PM
But they didn't disagree. They all agreed with the one guy who blasted away. If they were so fucking scared why weren't they shooting?
That the video tape showed they were all full of shit is the only reason they are not still on the force.... doubtless killing other minorities whenever the fuck they feel like it.
Black cops kill civilians too. If you aren't in a uniform, you are a suspect.
Quote from: Minimalist on December 27, 2018, 01:13:27 AM
Much like pervert priests, far too many cops will lie for their comrades who cross the line. I do not consider them good cops.
The difficulty is when most cops are "good" and a very few are (quite frankly, rabid racists thinking they have a 007 license to kill), those crazy ones are the ones we hear about most.
But the associated problem is that the good cops protect the bad ones. THAT is what has to stop. If we remove the bad x%, the rest will get the respect they deserve and things can improve.
Yes.
Thank goodness that someone gets it.
As the saying goes: "If you add a spoonful of wine to a barrel of sewage, you get sewage. And if you add a spoonful of sewage to a barrel of wine, you get sewage.
Like the pervert priests cops are far more concerned with what their buddies think of them than they are about any silly notions of "justice."
Quote from: Baruch on December 27, 2018, 09:16:55 PM
Black cops kill civilians too. If you aren't in a uniform, you are a suspect.
The problem is not black v white. The problem is black v. blue.
Quote from: Minimalist on December 29, 2018, 12:16:30 AM
Yes.
Thank goodness that someone gets it.
As the saying goes: "If you add a spoonful of wine to a barrel of sewage, you get sewage. And if you add a spoonful of sewage to a barrel of wine, you get sewage.
Like the pervert priests cops are far more concerned with what their buddies think of them than they are about any silly notions of "justice."
In war (and police are soldiers working against domestic enemies) ... you will die for your buddy in the trenches, but not for patriotism.
Quote from: Minimalist on December 29, 2018, 12:17:53 AM
The problem is not black v white. The problem is black v. blue.
You won't admit that Black police aren't Black any longer? For the police, we are all Black. A Black policeman is an Oreo, but with a blue filling.
Quote from: Minimalist on December 29, 2018, 12:16:30 AM
Yes.
Thank goodness that someone gets it.
As the saying goes: "If you add a spoonful of wine to a barrel of sewage, you get sewage. And if you add a spoonful of sewage to a barrel of wine, you get sewage.
Like the pervert priests cops are far more concerned with what their buddies think of them than they are about any silly notions of "justice."
I know the sewage thing. And quite frankly, it is the same in any profession. The difference is that if your dentist or fast-food person is a rabid racist, it probably doesn't show up as much.
Quote from: Cavebear on December 28, 2018, 11:54:40 PM
The difficulty is when most cops are "good" and a very few are (quite frankly, rabid racists thinking they have a 007 license to kill), those crazy ones are the ones we hear about most.
But the associated problem is that the good cops protect the bad ones. THAT is what has to stop. If we remove the bad x%, the rest will get the respect they deserve and things can improve.
Keep making cops look like bad guys and only bad guys will want to be cops.
Quote from: Minimalist on December 29, 2018, 12:16:30 AM
Like the pervert priests cops are far more concerned with what their buddies think of them than they are about any silly notions of "justice."
Yep, every single one of them.
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on December 29, 2018, 11:29:25 AM
Keep making cops look like bad guys and only bad guys will want to be cops.
No, I said most cops are good people. It's the very few (as in any job) that go wrong.
I had a college dorm guy who was totally fucking NUTS. He was just plain crazy. One time, he stood on the back of a VW Bug wearing only a cape and holding a flaming broom around the dorms for 15 minutes before the campus cops arrived.
He became a MD State Trooper when he failed out a year later. THAT is the kind of person who scares the crap out of me.
An uncle, on the the other hand, was the cop I would trust in any situation and most were just like him. If there was a problem, he would talk, then grab a loonie down trying not to hurt that person, often at grest risk to himself. He never fired a shot because he didn't have to.
That's the person I want to be my local cop. And THAT is the kind of person everyone should see as a Cop...
And now let's hear from Min.
Quote from: Cavebear on December 29, 2018, 11:56:23 AM
No, I said most cops are good people. It's the very few (as in any job) that go wrong.
I had a college dorm guy who was totally fucking NUTS. He was just plain crazy. One time, he stood on the back of a VW Bug wearing only a cape and holding a flaming broom around the dorms for 15 minutes before the campus cops arrived.
He became a MD State Trooper when he failed out a year later. THAT is the kind of person who scares the crap out of me.
An uncle, on the the other hand, was the cop I would trust in any situation and most were just like him. If there was a problem, he would talk, then grab a loonie down trying not to hurt that person, often at grest risk to himself. He never fired a shot because he didn't have to.
That's the person I want to be my local cop. And THAT is the kind of person everyone should see as a Cop...
So send in the cops, not the mental health department?
Quote from: Baruch on December 29, 2018, 12:31:04 PM
So send in the cops, not the mental health department?
A good Cop IS a mental health person... And a lot more.
Quote from: Cavebear on December 29, 2018, 12:32:51 PM
A good Cop IS a mental health person... And a lot more.
And you a brain surgeon, because you sent in that coupon on the back of the comic book, even though you wanted the swirly hypnosis glasses instead.
In IT, we can't even get our own techs to pass the Comptia certifications.
Quote from: Baruch on December 29, 2018, 12:34:41 PM
And you a brain surgeon, because you sent in that coupon on the back of the comic book, even though you wanted the swirly hypnosis glasses instead.
In IT, we can't even get our own techs to pass the Comptia certifications.
Neither claim I make or ever made. And I was too smart at 11 for the comic book ads.
Quote from: Cavebear on December 29, 2018, 12:38:11 PM
Neither claim I make or ever made. And I was too smart at 11 for the comic book ads.
Yeah, I bet you were every advert executive's nightmare ;-)
Right now we recruit cops from semi-messed up veterans. That can't be optimum, I can give you that. Part of my point earlier being, you do have to pass a certification test to become a cop in most jurisdiction (and in others you have to graduate from a cop academy). Really messed up veterans go to work for Blackwater, which is Hillary's private army.
Quote from: Cavebear on December 29, 2018, 11:56:23 AM
That's the person I want to be my local cop. And THAT is the kind of person everyone should see as a Cop...
We all want Sheriff Andy, but we usually end up with Barney Fife.
Quote from: Baruch on December 29, 2018, 12:45:07 PM
Really messed up veterans go to work for Blackwater, which is Hillary's private army.
You don't know what you're talking about. But do you ever?
Even liberals find groups to hate.
Quote from: Unbeliever on December 29, 2018, 01:14:39 PM
You don't know what you're talking about. But do you ever?
God gave us the ignore function for a reason.
Quote from: Baruch on December 29, 2018, 12:24:12 AM
You won't admit that Black police aren't Black any longer?
Depends on who is looking at them.
QuoteFor the police, we are all Black.
How many stories of disparate treatment would you like to see?
How about a personal one? Not too long ago while stopped at a light a cop pulled along side, honked his horn and rolled down his window. When I rolled mine down he said, cheerfully, "you know, both of your brake lights are out? The top bar is okay but the actual brake lights are both out." I thanked him and stopped at a auto parts store on the way home to buy two new bulbs.
All of this was accomplished without him drawing his gun even once. How do you suppose that would have gone down in Georgia or Mississippi if I had been black?
LOL
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on December 29, 2018, 01:15:19 PM
God gave us the ignore function for a reason.
I've never used it - don't even know how.
Quote from: Unbeliever on December 29, 2018, 01:14:39 PM
You don't know what you're talking about. But do you ever?
There was a big increase in the use of Blackwater (and aliases), by the State Department ... when Hillary was Secretary. Their use continues to increase, even the thought at the lost war in Afghanistan can be "profitably" turned over to them (profitable for who?).
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on December 29, 2018, 01:15:19 PM
God gave us the ignore function for a reason.
Ignore is OK, just don't go Ignorant ;-)
Quote from: Minimalist on December 29, 2018, 03:23:48 PM
Depends on who is looking at them.
How many stories of disparate treatment would you like to see?
How about a personal one? Not too long ago while stopped at a light a cop pulled along side, honked his horn and rolled down his window. When I rolled mine down he said, cheerfully, "you know, both of your brake lights are out? The top bar is okay but the actual brake lights are both out." I thanked him and stopped at a auto parts store on the way home to buy two new bulbs.
All of this was accomplished without him drawing his gun even once. How do you suppose that would have gone down in Georgia or Mississippi if I had been black?
It is more or less legal. If two cars are caught on radar speeding, and they only stop one, and give that driver a ticket, then the one stopped, can't claim discrimination because not all speeders were caught simultaneously. Life is unfair. You aren't a NBA all star? Boohoohoo.
Its not legal if they let one infraction go because the driver is white and shoot the other driver dead because he is black.
I sometimes wonder why there are any black people at all, given the situation some people claim is extant.
Quote from: Baruch on December 29, 2018, 12:45:07 PM
Yeah, I bet you were every advert executive's nightmare ;-)
Right now we recruit cops from semi-messed up veterans. That can't be optimum, I can give you that. Part of my point earlier being, you do have to pass a certification test to become a cop in most jurisdiction (and in others you have to graduate from a cop academy). Really messed up veterans go to work for Blackwater, which is Hillary's private army.
"Yeah, I bet you were every advert executive's nightmare ;-)"
Yes. And to this day. I find the flawed argument in every commercial, Ask me about one.
I will not say that every security comapny agenct is 100% full of nuts, but I bet they choose the ones who are.
Quote from: Minimalist on December 29, 2018, 05:39:06 PM
Its not legal if they let one infraction go because the driver is white and shoot the other driver dead because he is black.
And Alex Jones is a shape shifting reptilian? If you think that is the norm, then you have your own problem. I think any cop is really dangerous.
Quote from: Cavebear on December 29, 2018, 05:59:53 PM
"Yeah, I bet you were every advert executive's nightmare ;-)"
Yes. And to this day. I find the flawed argument in every commercial, Ask me about one.
I will not say that every security comapny agenct is 100% full of nuts, but I bet they choose the ones who are.
So you haven't been brainwashed into buying women's hygiene products you have no use for?
No Alex Jones is a fucking shithead.
Try to remember that.
Quote from: Minimalist on December 29, 2018, 07:14:48 PM
No Alex Jones is a fucking shithead.
Try to remember that.
And you are (typically) prejudiced. Try to remember that.
You are correct. I have a natural hatred of fucking assholes.
Quote from: Minimalist on December 30, 2018, 02:01:09 PM
You are correct. I have a natural hatred of fucking assholes.
How will you ever be happy then? The world is covered in fucking assholes?
Happy?
Happy??
What is this "happy" of which you speak?
Min is happy now.
It's a refreshing change when the cops can come up with a little self-deprecating humor.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46728111
QuoteKentucky police mourn doughnut truck fire
Quote from: Minimalist on December 29, 2018, 03:23:48 PM
Depends on who is looking at them.
How many stories of disparate treatment would you like to see?
How about a personal one? Not too long ago while stopped at a light a cop pulled along side, honked his horn and rolled down his window. When I rolled mine down he said, cheerfully, "you know, both of your brake lights are out? The top bar is okay but the actual brake lights are both out." I thanked him and stopped at a auto parts store on the way home to buy two new bulbs.
All of this was accomplished without him drawing his gun even once. How do you suppose that would have gone down in Georgia or Mississippi if I had been black?
I was driving and a cop pulled me over to mention I had no back license plate. I got out of the car and he didn't mind a bit. Darned if he wasn't right. Someone stole my plate!
He never seemed concerned, never asked if I had a gun, never asked if I had drugs, etc.
But then I'm white...
Things gotta become more fair...
Quote from: Cavebear on January 02, 2019, 05:31:50 AM
I was driving and a cop pulled me over to mention I had no back license plate. I got out of the car and he didn't mind a bit. Darned if he wasn't right. Someone stole my plate!
He never seemed concerned, never asked if I had a gun, never asked if I had drugs, etc.
But then I'm white...
Things gotta become more fair...
i would have shot you. Shoot every idiot who gets out of their car, no matter what their skin color.
Sorry you lost your license plate, that is a stupid thing for someone to steal.
Pigs attack wheelchair bound veteran. I guess they were just good cops being heroic at a fucking WalMart?
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/01/disturbing-video-shows-cops-pepper-spraying-veteran-point-blank-not-getting-mobility-scooter/
Quote from: Minimalist on January 02, 2019, 11:02:01 AM
Pigs attack wheelchair bound veteran. I guess they were just good cops being heroic at a fucking WalMart?
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/01/disturbing-video-shows-cops-pepper-spraying-veteran-point-blank-not-getting-mobility-scooter/
True. But they aren't there for citizens ... they are there to scare the peasants. And unless you are stupid, you should be scared.
Quote from: Minimalist on January 02, 2019, 11:02:01 AM
Pigs attack wheelchair bound veteran. I guess they were just good cops being heroic at a fucking WalMart?
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/01/disturbing-video-shows-cops-pepper-spraying-veteran-point-blank-not-getting-mobility-scooter/
I hate it when the facts are on both sides. A citizen declined to cooperate with the police. So they should have just taken him away for some minor violation.
But they just HAD to go all-out on this stupid sucker and tear gas him. Why? Because they HAD the stuff. And, sad to say, SOME police (not most) are just desperate to use it.
There are SOME police saying "please just give me an opportunity". And there are some jerks just saying "I dare you". And a lot of the people the police have to confront daily are a bit loose in their minds.
But there was a time when the police just grabbed a person like that and hauled him off to jail for a night of remorse and maybe just sobering-up. When if you lost a bit of self-control, you didn't get killed for it.
Or getting shot in the back for "attacking the police". Isn't it amazing how many people attack the police by "running backwards at them"?
And doesn't it seem a bit extreme if someone has to be choked to death when all he was doing was selling a few single cigarettes at slightly higher than the pack rate? I did that myself in the break room where I worked. Because when someone asked if he could buy a cigarette from me, it meant I had one less and would have to go out and buy more sooner?
I understand than police need good weapons. Criminals have then too. But why does that mean that using the biggest weapon is the FIRST action they take?
Where did things go this wrong, and how do we stop it?
Both sides were wrong.
Don't hire veterans for police work. They have PTSD. Also strict psych testing.