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Title: I agree with all 10 of the polemical points made ..
Post by: Baruch on December 16, 2018, 06:37:07 PM
Nailed: Ten Christian Myths That Show Jesus Never Existed At All by Robert Fitzgerald (2010)

Look up the table of contents, on Amazon.

Basically a full defense of Jesus = Myth.
Title: Re: I agree with all 10 of the polemical points made ..
Post by: Minimalist on December 16, 2018, 09:04:47 PM
Excellent book.  Basically like shooting fish in a barrel. 
Title: Re: I agree with all 10 of the polemical points made ..
Post by: Cavebear on December 21, 2018, 09:13:19 AM
Quote from: Baruch on December 16, 2018, 06:37:07 PM
Nailed: Ten Christian Myths That Show Jesus Never Existed At All by Robert Fitzgerald (2010)

Look up the table of contents, on Amazon.

Basically a full defense of Jesus = Myth.

Was this a stunning revelation to you?  I kind of thought it was obvious.  Is that why you are confused in discussions and make bad jokes in most of your posts?
Title: Re: I agree with all 10 of the polemical points made ..
Post by: Baruch on December 21, 2018, 12:38:04 PM
Quote from: Cavebear on December 21, 2018, 09:13:19 AM
Was this a stunning revelation to you?  I kind of thought it was obvious.  Is that why you are confused in discussions and make bad jokes in most of your posts?

Not at all.  I have understood myth since I was reading The Adventures of Hercules when I was 8 years old.  But if you want to believe in Giant Japanese Robots ... feel free.  Base you lifestyle and politics on that too.
Title: Re: I agree with all 10 of the polemical points made ..
Post by: Unbeliever on December 21, 2018, 02:11:53 PM
I believe in giant Japanese robots!

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-japan-giantrobot/japanese-engineer-builds-giant-robot-to-realize-gundam-dream-idUSKBN1HK0HX


Check - and mate!

LOL
Title: Re: I agree with all 10 of the polemical points made ..
Post by: Cavebear on December 21, 2018, 02:21:08 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on December 21, 2018, 02:11:53 PM
I believe in giant Japanese robots!

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-japan-giantrobot/japanese-engineer-builds-giant-robot-to-realize-gundam-dream-idUSKBN1HK0HX


Check - and mate!

LOL

I was going to assume that some Japanese techie built a giant Robot. 
Title: Re: I agree with all 10 of the polemical points made ..
Post by: Unbeliever on December 21, 2018, 02:23:05 PM
Never assume, because when you assume, you make an "ass" out of "u" and "me"!


LOL
Title: Re: I agree with all 10 of the polemical points made ..
Post by: Cavebear on December 21, 2018, 02:28:50 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on December 21, 2018, 02:23:05 PM
Never assume, because when you assume, you make an "ass" out of "u" and "me"!


LOL

My first week at work for the Federal Govt, my new boss pulled that one out on me.  I asked him what he expected to happen when he flipped the office light switch.  He never mentioned it again.  And he probably (correctly) ASSUMED that I would be his boss one day.

I also had a different person state that there was no 'me' in "team".  People are utter idiots sometimes.
Title: Re: I agree with all 10 of the polemical points made ..
Post by: Unbeliever on December 21, 2018, 02:32:49 PM
I think I first heard that in some movie with Ben Stein.
Title: Re: I agree with all 10 of the polemical points made ..
Post by: Cavebear on December 21, 2018, 02:39:29 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on December 21, 2018, 02:32:49 PM
I think I first heard that in some movie with Ben Stein.

Never heard of him.  Really...
Title: Re: I agree with all 10 of the polemical points made ..
Post by: Unbeliever on December 21, 2018, 02:41:34 PM
You haven't missed anything. He's a rabid right-winger. He was kind of funny in a few movies though, and he had a game show called "Win Ben Stein's Money" that was pretty good.
Title: Re: I agree with all 10 of the polemical points made ..
Post by: Cavebear on December 21, 2018, 03:18:22 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on December 21, 2018, 02:41:34 PM
You haven't missed anything. He's a rabid right-winger. He was kind of funny in a few movies though, and he had a game show called "Win Ben Stein's Money" that was pretty good.

Just what I need.  A funny Nazi, LOL!
Title: Re: I agree with all 10 of the polemical points made ..
Post by: Unbeliever on December 21, 2018, 03:19:26 PM
His side-kick on his game show was Jimmy Kimmel, one of my favorite people.
Title: Re: I agree with all 10 of the polemical points made ..
Post by: Baruch on December 21, 2018, 07:12:10 PM
Funny, you two call other people, morons.
Title: Re: I agree with all 10 of the polemical points made ..
Post by: Unbeliever on December 21, 2018, 07:22:24 PM
Laugh it up, fuzzball...


LOL
Title: Re: I agree with all 10 of the polemical points made ..
Post by: Baruch on December 21, 2018, 07:47:24 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on December 21, 2018, 07:22:24 PM
Laugh it up, fuzzball...


LOL

May your wayward son put a light saber thru your chest ... ouch!
Title: Re: I agree with all 10 of the polemical points made ..
Post by: Unbeliever on December 22, 2018, 06:44:38 PM
QuoteThis in-depth investigative documentary traces the secret history of the Bible like never before. Scholars shed new light on translation errors, misinterpretations, political changes, and archeological discoveries that have unraveled the many mysteries of Christianity which has evolved into over 200 religious sects, each with differing beliefs. This film does not debate the issue of faith. However, after watching this film, you may never look at the history of the Bible in the same way again.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FXdMkFomBk&t=509s
Title: Re: I agree with all 10 of the polemical points made ..
Post by: Baruch on December 23, 2018, 12:27:59 AM
No scripture is written by G-d.  And impossible to show if it is inspired by G-d either, or just someone's craziness.  This is a very old meme ... the original Sumerian Gilgamesh epic was supposed to be written on a tablet of lapis lazuli.  The original Quran is supposed to be of gold, and in Heaven.  The Declaration of Independence is sealed under glass, revered for some odd reason or another.

At one time, most people were illiterate, and considered writing to be magical, since it was associated with charms and talismans you could buy down at the market, much as newspaper horoscopes still are.

But however imperfect, some writing will be held in high esteem by some people, Mein Kampf for example ;-(
Title: Re: I agree with all 10 of the polemical points made ..
Post by: Cavebear on December 25, 2018, 08:16:08 PM
Quote from: Baruch on December 21, 2018, 07:12:10 PM
Funny, you two call other people, morons.

Half the population is dumber than average, and (I'll get in real trouble for this, but what the heck) the next 20% isn't all that bright either.  It isn't that most people slightly of above average intelligence can't think but that that they seem to busy to try. 

And that is the sad thing.  Being able to and not...  But isn't that the same as "can't"?  So, functionally, they aren't.
Title: Re: I agree with all 10 of the polemical points made ..
Post by: Baruch on December 25, 2018, 11:17:32 PM
Quote from: Cavebear on December 25, 2018, 08:16:08 PM
Half the population is dumber than average, and (I'll get in real trouble for this, but what the heck) the next 20% isn't all that bright either.  It isn't that most people slightly of above average intelligence can't think but that that they seem to busy to try. 

And that is the sad thing.  Being able to and not...  But isn't that the same as "can't"?  So, functionally, they aren't.

A bit too pessimistic about the Gaussian curve.  80% are in the middle, and 10% at the low end (they need help) and 10% at the high end (we need to not impede them).