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Title: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Minimalist on December 11, 2018, 04:23:16 PM
Who says 'Murrica can't export things anymore?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-46529733

QuoteBrazil shooting: Five dead as gunman opens fire in cathedral

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46530265

QuoteStrasbourg shooting: One dead, 10 wounded and gunman at large


'Murrica.. Making The World Better One Bullet At A Time!

Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Unbeliever on December 11, 2018, 04:52:37 PM
Make America Gun-crazy Again!

Yeah, we export our worst traits.
Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on December 11, 2018, 05:50:20 PM
Min, what took you so long to make this thread?
Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Minimalist on December 11, 2018, 07:03:30 PM
I've been really busy IRL.

Catching up.  Next up we'll need a Pervert Priest thread.

;-)
Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Unbeliever on December 11, 2018, 07:04:40 PM
What, there's not one of those already!? We'll definitely have to remedy that situation!
Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on December 11, 2018, 07:27:35 PM
Don't worry, Min is never minimal.
Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Unbeliever on December 11, 2018, 07:38:14 PM
I've been accused of being a minimalist myself. I can't dispute the accusation.
Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Baruch on December 11, 2018, 09:19:37 PM
Ignoramus liberals.  The last gun my dad bought, was from Brazil.  Those crippled old Nazis need the work.
Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Minimalist on December 11, 2018, 09:37:56 PM
It isn't the old nazis that worry me.  It's the young ones.
Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Baruch on December 11, 2018, 10:27:52 PM
Quote from: Minimalist on December 11, 2018, 09:37:56 PM
It isn't the old nazis that worry me.  It's the young ones.

Bad people are born every day.  That is why elective abortion is a good idea.
Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: GSOgymrat on December 11, 2018, 11:01:34 PM
Quote from: Baruch on December 11, 2018, 10:27:52 PM
Bad people are born every day.  That is why elective abortion is a good idea.

https://youtu.be/jF1exwkW3c8
Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Minimalist on December 11, 2018, 11:19:50 PM
Abortion does not determine bad or good.  It determines who is or is not convenient.

I'm fine with that being the mother's choice.  After all, if even its mother doesn't want it the deck is stacked against it.
Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on December 12, 2018, 12:00:22 AM
Quote from: Unbeliever on December 11, 2018, 07:38:14 PM
I've been accused of being a minimalist myself. I can't dispute the accusation.
tl;dr
Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Minimalist on December 12, 2018, 01:19:59 AM
Getting back into it.  Its hunting season and I always root for the deer.

https://www.radioiowa.com/2018/12/10/hunting-accidents-leave-one-person-dead-one-injured-in-marion-and-madison-county/

QuoteOne person was killed and another injured in separate hunting accidents in south-central Iowa Sunday.

QuoteThe other accident happened around 8:40 a.m. in rural Madison County. According to the DNR, 39-year-old Ronald Butler of Macksburg was shot when he dropped his gun while getting out of a vehicle. Butler, who was hunting with two other people, was eventually flown to a Des Moines hospital.

There’s no word on his current condition.

I'll tell you his condition.  He's a moron.  A moron running around with a loaded gun and butter fingers.
Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Baruch on December 12, 2018, 03:13:51 AM
Quote from: Minimalist on December 11, 2018, 11:19:50 PM
Abortion does not determine bad or good.  It determines who is or is not convenient.

I'm fine with that being the mother's choice.  After all, if even its mother doesn't want it the deck is stacked against it.

Not minimalist, but upside down, effect before cause.  And my comment had nothing to do with actual abortions.

On your topic ... sorry to divert.  Yes, guns and liquor are a bad combination.  But we should encourage this behavior in Congress.  Hopefully Cheney can show them how to do it.
Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on December 12, 2018, 06:25:58 AM
Quote from: Minimalist on December 12, 2018, 01:19:59 AM
Getting back into it.  Its hunting season and I always root for the deer.

https://www.radioiowa.com/2018/12/10/hunting-accidents-leave-one-person-dead-one-injured-in-marion-and-madison-county/

I'll tell you his condition.  He's a moron.  A moron running around with a loaded gun and butter fingers.
A lot of states don't allow  loaded firearms in motor vehicles. He's probably facing a charge on that.
Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Minimalist on December 12, 2018, 09:11:31 PM
Perhaps now we won't have to put up with that ridiculous "why shouldn't we ban cars too" shit from the gun nuts.

https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2018/12/11/18135976/gun-deaths-us-2017-suicide

QuoteGuns killed more people than car crashes in 2017

Quotehe rate of gun deaths in the US increased yet again in 2017, driven mostly by a rise in the number of suicides with a firearm.

The new data, released by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, shows that the gun death rate hit 12.2 per 100,000 people in 2017, up from 12 in 2016 and 10.3 in 1999 (the earliest year of data available). The gun suicide rate increased to 7.3 in 2017, from 7.1 in 2016, while the gun homicide rate remained flat at 4.5.

The total gun death rate surpassed the car crash death rate of 11.9 per 100,000 people, as the rate of car crash deaths has steadily decreased while the gun death rate has increased over the years.

Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on December 13, 2018, 06:01:18 AM
Hey, you can use a gun to take kids to school, to pick up the dry cleaning, drive to grandma's house, or cover a bit of lawn you don't want to mow any more. Take that, gun haters!
Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Baruch on December 13, 2018, 07:30:47 AM
Guns are no problem.  Criminal politicians are a problem.  I would be happy to see the Elite eliminated via guillotine.  Right, Left or in-between.
Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on December 13, 2018, 08:25:08 AM
Quote from: Baruch on December 13, 2018, 07:30:47 AM
Guns are no problem. 
Dumbass.
Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Minimalist on December 13, 2018, 11:30:48 AM
Guns are a problem because over here all the dumbasses want to walk around with them. 

(https://imageproxy.themaven.net/https%3A%2F%2Fs3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com%2Fmaven-user-photos%2Fbeingliberal%2Fsandbox%2Fo3_TlPyOUUehnwQW0VxHJQ%2Fnr6ieLmzv0aps2f9eWZQNw)
Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Hydra009 on December 13, 2018, 12:02:04 PM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on December 12, 2018, 06:25:58 AM
A lot of states don't allow  loaded firearms in motor vehicles.
Clearly the end result of liberal judicial activism or tyrannical liberal legislatures.  Gun owners are sane, lawabiding people (remember that time Clint Eastwood debated a chair?) who should not be subject to these irresponsible and burdensome liberal laws.
Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Baruch on December 13, 2018, 12:33:34 PM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on December 13, 2018, 08:25:08 AM
Dumbass.

But, I thought you were pro-gun in a responsible way?
Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Baruch on December 13, 2018, 12:34:44 PM
Quote from: Hydra009 on December 13, 2018, 12:02:04 PM
Clearly the end result of liberal judicial activism or tyrannical liberal legislatures.  Gun owners are sane, lawabiding people (remember that time Clint Eastwood debated a chair?) who should not be subject to these irresponsible and burdensome liberal laws.

Laws aren't a problem.  Obeying them is a problem.  A free person is an anarchist.  Liberals/Conservatives buy into the dominant slave culture.
Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Unbeliever on December 13, 2018, 01:31:29 PM
Quote from: Minimalist on December 12, 2018, 09:11:31 PM
Perhaps now we won't have to put up with that ridiculous "why shouldn't we ban cars too" shit from the gun nuts.

Oh, yes we will, since very few gun nuts will have seen or believe those numbers.
Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Minimalist on December 13, 2018, 05:10:07 PM
But now we can stick the numbers up their asses.... if there is room considering that is where they keep their heads.
Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Unbeliever on December 13, 2018, 05:16:36 PM
Yeah, probably kind of claustrophobic up in there! LOL
Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Cavebear on December 18, 2018, 05:22:21 AM
Quote from: Minimalist on December 12, 2018, 01:19:59 AM
Getting back into it.  Its hunting season and I always root for the deer.

If the deer were as numerous as rats and ate everything in your yard, and got hit by your car every couple years wrecking your spine from the hit and making your neck make grinding sounds, you might not feel so kindly towards them.

I would like to kill them all within 100 miles of here.  Poison sounds good.  Bullets and crossbows seem better.  And shooting the does is the only effective reduction of the population.

Yeah, wolves.  You want wolves in your neighborhood?  Didn't we spend 30,000 years getting rid of predators?
Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on December 18, 2018, 06:16:18 AM
If we still had wolves there wouldn't be so many deer.
Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Cavebear on December 18, 2018, 06:21:15 AM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on December 18, 2018, 06:16:18 AM
If we still had wolves there wouldn't be so many deer.

And fewer children.  And maybe fewer adults.  Though I wouldn't miss some...  My point is that there are only a few ways to reduce the local surplus deer population and I don't like the poison or wolf options.  But no one wants anyone killing those poor deer with a gun or crossbow either. 

Maybe they just want to spay all the does...

I say shoot them until they are scared as hell about us again...
Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on December 18, 2018, 09:20:26 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on December 18, 2018, 06:21:15 AM
And fewer children.  And maybe fewer adults.  Though I wouldn't miss some...  My point is that there are only a few ways to reduce the local surplus deer population and I don't like the poison or wolf options.  But no one wants anyone killing those poor deer with a gun or crossbow either. 

Maybe they just want to spay all the does...

I say shoot them until they are scared as hell about us again...
You know, the anti-wolf people out west are making shelters for their children hide in while waiting for the school bus in the morning. They're afraid of wolves. The kids are allowed to play outside after school without any need for shelters.

You know, just bullshit.

When the last wolf was killed in Yellowstone, back in the Twenties, the park started to decline. No aspen tree grew to maturity for the next seventy years. Too many deer. When the wolves were brought back the whole park started to recover from man's stupidity.
Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Minimalist on December 18, 2018, 10:36:01 AM
Humanity always fucks things up and then fucks them up worse trying to fix them.  I suspect the problem is us.
Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on December 18, 2018, 11:22:52 AM
Quote from: Minimalist on December 18, 2018, 10:36:01 AM
Humanity always fucks things up and then fucks them up worse trying to fix them.  I suspect the problem is us.
Returning the wolves to Yellowstone shows that we can fix things.
Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Baruch on December 18, 2018, 12:49:20 PM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on December 18, 2018, 06:16:18 AM
If we still had wolves there wouldn't be so many deer.

And fewer children and old folks ;-)  Until recently, Finland still lost people to wolves.
Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Unbeliever on December 18, 2018, 01:18:23 PM
Quote from: Minimalist on December 18, 2018, 10:36:01 AM
Humanity always fucks things up and then fucks them up worse trying to fix them.  I suspect the problem is us.
As Pogo said, we have met the enemy, and he is us.
Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Baruch on December 18, 2018, 07:56:00 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on December 18, 2018, 01:18:23 PM
As Pogo said, we have met the enemy, and he is us.

Exactly ... not just Americans, but all of us.  Completely correct.  Obvious conclusion?  Kill them all, let G-d sort it out.
Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Cavebear on December 21, 2018, 04:09:47 AM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on December 18, 2018, 09:20:26 AM
You know, the anti-wolf people out west are making shelters for their children hide in while waiting for the school bus in the morning. They're afraid of wolves. The kids are allowed to play outside after school without any need for shelters.

You know, just bullshit.

When the last wolf was killed in Yellowstone, back in the Twenties, the park started to decline. No aspen tree grew to maturity for the next seventy years. Too many deer. When the wolves were brought back the whole park started to recover from man's stupidity.

In the wilds, the balance between wolves and deer or elk are good.  Too many deer, too few saplings.  Too few deer, wolves seek food elsewhere.

It is where the intersection on wolves and humans meet that the problem occurs.  I would kill the last wolf to protect a human.  All our ancestors killed off the local predators as best they could.  My namesake Ursus spelaeus went that way, and I do not regret it.

As far as the local excess deer population is concerned, they overly-exist because hunting them is too restricted.  I would be happy to find a place I could legally kill them with my crossbow.  And a few of them, wounded with an arrow sticking out their flanks would have an informative effect on the herd. 

"Hey Swamp-Walker, don't go near the houses - see what they did to Ripe-Apple-Eater"?
Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on December 21, 2018, 05:28:04 AM
And that's why the planet is getting fuck up now.
Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Munch on December 21, 2018, 06:00:57 AM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on December 21, 2018, 05:28:04 AM
And that's why the planet is getting fuck up now.

As George Carlin once said, the planets fine, it's the people who are fucked.
Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Cavebear on December 21, 2018, 06:02:33 AM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on December 21, 2018, 05:28:04 AM
And that's why the planet is getting fuck up now.

You didn't exactly state your opinion or any reasons for one...
Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Cavebear on December 21, 2018, 06:09:09 AM
Quote from: Munch on December 21, 2018, 06:00:57 AM
As George Carlin once said, the planets fine, it's the people who are fucked.

If you mean by "it's the people who are fucked", I agree completely.  Earth would do just fine without us.  and most species would do better.  I won't mourn the cockroaches who need our warm damp garbage dumps of apartments though.  If we disappeared, most cockroaches would too.  They would freeze.

Whales would be thrilled, fish would abound, beavers would return the plains to varied wetlands supporting all sorts of animal populations, birds would increase, etc.

Might even have saber tooth cats taking down those damned deer too...
Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on December 21, 2018, 07:18:35 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on December 21, 2018, 06:02:33 AM
You didn't exactly state your opinion or any reasons for one...
And?
Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Cavebear on December 21, 2018, 07:52:26 AM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on December 21, 2018, 07:18:35 AM
And?

You are feeling contrary today, right.  All I asked was if you had a reason to support your opinion.  I can't discuss your opinion, it is just what is in your mind.  I CAN discuss reasons, and I also like to. 

I've been known to change my mind, given reasons...
Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on December 21, 2018, 08:02:33 AM
Ok
Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Cavebear on December 21, 2018, 08:08:03 AM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on December 21, 2018, 08:02:33 AM
Ok

So...  You want to talk about your reasons?  If not, I'll make a joke...  But not unless you want one to cheer you.
Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on December 21, 2018, 08:20:53 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on December 21, 2018, 08:08:03 AM
So...  You want to talk about your reasons?  If not, I'll make a joke...  But not unless you want one to cheer you.
See my most recent post in that other thread.
Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Cavebear on December 21, 2018, 08:46:14 AM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on December 21, 2018, 08:20:53 AM
See my most recent post in that other thread.

At least provide a URL fer pity sakes...
Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on December 21, 2018, 08:47:50 AM
I have no way to find it right now.
Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Cavebear on December 21, 2018, 08:54:43 AM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on December 21, 2018, 08:47:50 AM
I have no way to find it right now.

Try "recent topics" at the top of the page.  That helps my sometimes.  Also, "search" sometimes finds threads.
Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on December 21, 2018, 09:11:32 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on December 21, 2018, 08:54:43 AM
Try "recent topics" at the top of the page.  That helps my sometimes.  Also, "search" sometimes finds threads.
Did that.
Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Cavebear on December 21, 2018, 09:26:50 AM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on December 21, 2018, 09:11:32 AM
Did that.

Hmmm, did you try looking up your own posts?  Its somewhere in your account settings.  Beyond that, I'm outta ideas.  I struggle here myself a lot...
Title: Re: All Hail The Second Amendment
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on December 21, 2018, 10:11:52 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on December 21, 2018, 09:26:50 AM
Hmmm, did you try looking up your own posts?  Its somewhere in your account settings.  Beyond that, I'm outta ideas.  I struggle here myself a lot...
I rarely try these days. Not the most frustrating forum on the web, but dead second. The worst is a forum that uses homebrew software and hasn't improved on the interface since Desert Storm insofar as I can tell.