https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1PgZ5IlFD4
They don't have the space in jail's to make up how many they'd need to arrest
I mentioned this just yesterday ... that this is a potential development out of "hate speech" legislation.
Cucks not only tolerate, but like to watch, another man make love to their wife. With all due respect ... the word "perversion" has definite meaning. Just as gay people here will say that while respectful gay relationship is an acceptable form of love, but pedophilia is beyond the pale, even for them. Per Freud, consider how sexuality drives not only individual behavior, but society and culture. "Passion" applies to many things.
So do Europeans have a "passion" for sado-masochism. SJW guilt, feminist guilt, if strongly held, has to have a sexual component. Bluntly ... I am X, so someone please $&%&^$ me. I don't deserve better? So again in a manner of speaking, your over-class is not only sado-masochistic, but they want to remove your "safe" word.
A danger of course is this "European" illness, crossing to N America, first to Canada and then to the US.
This is taking German dominatrices a bridge too far.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDN5k5FTPJ0
It was the worst of times, the best of times. Will Britain rise up?
Quote from: Munch on December 04, 2018, 07:12:32 AM
They don't have the space in jail's to make up how many they'd need to arrest
Isn't that a red flag for you, in terms of the dubiousness of pr's post???
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Quote from: PickelledEggs on December 04, 2018, 11:11:17 AM
Isn't that a red flag for you, in terms of the dubiousness of pr's post???
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The resolution into law hasn't happened yet. So nothing to worry about, until it is too late.
Quote from: Baruch on December 04, 2018, 12:49:44 PM
The resolution into law hasn't happened yet. So nothing to worry about, until it is too late.
Much like that Canadian law, amirite?....
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Quote from: PickelledEggs on December 04, 2018, 11:11:17 AM
Isn't that a red flag for you, in terms of the dubiousness of pr's post???
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uncontrolled migration is a bad thing.
(https://i.imgur.com/qJ2QeYl.jpg)
Quote from: Munch on December 04, 2018, 04:45:14 PM
uncontrolled migration is a bad thing.
(https://i.imgur.com/qJ2QeYl.jpg)
I guess my point went over you head...
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Quote from: PickelledEggs on December 04, 2018, 05:00:25 PM
I guess my point went over you head...
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Maybe you need to aim better. Shot for the heart, not the head.
Quote from: Baruch on December 04, 2018, 07:03:00 PM
Maybe you need to aim better. Shot for the heart, not the head.
When the head is empty, I guess that at least invokes a reaction. Just not the one I want.
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Quote from: PickelledEggs on December 04, 2018, 07:16:29 PM
When the head is empty, I guess that at least invokes a reaction. Just not the one I want.
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Anencephaly is the absence of a major portion of the brain, skull, and scalp that occurs during embryonic development.[1] It is a cephalic disorder that results from a neural tube defect that occurs when the rostral (head) end of the neural tube fails to close, usually between the 23rd and 26th day following conception.[2] Strictly speaking, the Greek term translates as "no in-head" (that is, totally lacking the inside part of the head, i.e. the brain), but it is accepted that children born with this disorder usually only lack a telencephalon,[3] the largest part of the brain consisting mainly of the cerebral hemispheres, including the neocortex, which is responsible for cognition. The remaining structure is usually covered only by a thin layer of membraneâ€"skin, bone, meninges, etc. are all lacking.[4] With very few exceptions,[5] infants with this disorder do not survive longer than a few hours or possibly days after their birth.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f0/Anencephaly_side.jpg)
Its not nice to make ad hominem where children are born like this. Maybe use your own brain next time for a clever quip.
Quote from: Munch on December 04, 2018, 09:31:48 PMIts not nice to make ad hominem where children are born like this. Maybe use your own brain next time for a clever quip.
Let me explain where you went wrong, Munch. Pickle was commenting on how the lack of jail space should indicate to you how seriously (or rather, not) you should be taking PR's post. Now, given we are talking about a man who thinks he has Muslims under his bed and feminists in his closet, a man who has
at best a very slim grasp on reality, do you think that perhaps maybe, just
maybe, PR's claim in this thread should be taken with a massive grain of salt?
Quote from: Hijiri Byakuren on December 04, 2018, 09:42:06 PM
Let me explain where you went wrong, Munch. Pickle was commenting on how the lack of jail space should indicate to you how seriously (or rather, not) you should be taking PR's post. Now, given we are talking about a man who thinks he has Muslims under his bed and feminists in his closet, a man who has at best a very slim grasp on reality, do you think that perhaps maybe, just maybe, PR's claim in this thread should be taken with a massive grain of salt?
Exactly.
I'm actually kinda hoping this is true, if for no other reason than to cut down on the fearmongering spam. :P
Not just in Europe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYn09wrL9vw
GLOBAL COMPACT FOR SAFE, ORDERLY AND REGULAR MIGRATION (https://refugeesmigrants.un.org/sites/default/files/180713_agreed_outcome_global_compact_for_migration.pdf)
Quotea) Enact, implement or maintain legislation that penalizes hate crimes and aggravated hate
crimes targeting migrants, and train law enforcement and other public officials to identify,
prevent and respond to such crimes and other acts of violence that target migrants, as well
as to provide medical, legal and psychosocial assistance for victims
b) Empower migrants and communities to denounce any acts of incitement to violence
directed towards migrants by informing them of available mechanisms for redress, and
ensure that those who actively participate in the commission of a hate crime targeting
migrants are held accountable, in accordance with national legislation, while upholding
international human rights law, in particular the right to freedom of expression
c) Promote independent, objective and quality reporting of media outlets, including internetbased
information, including by sensitizing and educating media professionals on
migration-related issues and terminology, investing in ethical reporting standards and
advertising, and stopping allocation of public funding or material support to media outlets
that systematically promote intolerance, xenophobia, racism and other forms of
discrimination towards migrants, in full respect for the freedom of the media
d) Establish mechanisms to prevent, detect and respond to racial, ethnic and religious profiling
of migrants by public authorities, as well as systematic instances of intolerance,
xenophobia, racism and all other multiple and intersecting forms of discrimination in
partnership with National Human Rights Institutions, including by tracking and publishing
trends analyses, and ensuring access to effective complaint and redress mechanisms
e) Provide migrants, especially migrant women, with access to national and regional
complaint and redress mechanisms with a view to promoting accountability and addressing
governmental actions related to discriminatory acts and manifestations carried out against
migrants and their families
f) Promote awareness-raising campaigns targeted at communities of origin, transit and
destination in order to inform public perceptions regarding the positive contributions of safe,
orderly and regular migration, based on evidence and facts, and to end racism, xenophobia
and stigmatization against all migrants
g) Engage migrants, political, religious and community leaders, as well as educators and
service providers to detect and prevent incidences of intolerance, racism, xenophobia, and
other forms of discrimination against migrants and diasporas and support activities in local
communities to promote mutual respect, including in the context of electoral campaigns
Quote from: Hydra009 on December 04, 2018, 10:54:27 PM
I'm actually kinda hoping this is true, if for no other reason than to cut down on the fearmongering spam. :P
We could give the migrants jobs building the prisons and working as wardens as well! Kill two birds with one stone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ef9abodQG_c.
"Countries that import the 3rd world, become the 3rd world"
Quote from: Munch on December 04, 2018, 09:31:48 PM
Its not nice to make ad hominem where children are born like this. Maybe use your own brain next time for a clever quip.
Interesting rebuke. It wasn't an ad hominem. It literally went over your head. You didn't understand what I was saying. I'm saying that the thing you said was like an acknowledgement of the sheer ridiculousness of the claim that pr/pr's video claims, but then somehow embraces the absurdism as reality.
The ad hominem, if you want it, you can self apply it.
Quote from: Shiranu on December 05, 2018, 01:01:49 AM
We could give the migrants jobs building the prisons and working as wardens as well! Kill two birds with one stone.
That is American. The Brits are too kind for that.
Quote from: Hijiri Byakuren on December 04, 2018, 09:42:06 PM
Let me explain where you went wrong, Munch. Pickle was commenting on how the lack of jail space should indicate to you how seriously (or rather, not) you should be taking PR's post. Now, given we are talking about a man who thinks he has Muslims under his bed and feminists in his closet, a man who has at best a very slim grasp on reality, do you think that perhaps maybe, just maybe, PR's claim in this thread should be taken with a massive grain of salt?
Let the French imprison them on their side of the channel. Same as the US ... let Mexico jail the caravaners.
Quote from: Hydra009 on December 04, 2018, 10:54:27 PM
I'm actually kinda hoping this is true, if for no other reason than to cut down on the fearmongering spam. :P
I can assure you it won't do, infact it will have the opposite effect by trying to force people to conform to one way of thinking, instead of letting it happen naturally
Forcing a social or political view just leads to defiance of said view, where as the underdog building themselves up from ground level builds better foundations for ideas and standards
Quote from: Munch on December 05, 2018, 10:05:33 AM
I can assure you it won't do, infact it will have the opposite effect by trying to force people to conform to one way of thinking, instead of letting it happen naturally
Forcing a social or political view just leads to defiance of said view, where as the underdog building themselves up from ground level builds better foundations for ideas and standards
You are defining socialist propaganda ... given the virtue signaling.
People are fucking fleeing mass murder and pr and munch are more worried about a law that doesn't exist and realistically can't even exist.
Extreme right wing in a nutshell. Emphasis on the nut.
Btw. Did you know obama is cumming for our gunz?
He perfectly knows it can't happen.
For a 'law' of that kind to be made, they would need to conflict with the fundamental bases of Western Constitutions in legal terms. Which means, even if it was officially planned, proposed, voted AND accepted it wouldn't work. Because it would be against the constitution. Meaning, can't pass the basic requirements of the law, according to the law.
What could technically happen at most -highly unlikely- is that people who uses media organs to make open, organised propaganda against a specific minority could be sued in some sort of civil court on 'purposefully provoking hatred/violence against a minority' WHICH I pretty much doubt would happen in Europe. Neo Nazi organisations wouldn't survive in Germany to begin with if that was the case.
Quote from: drunkenshoe on December 05, 2018, 01:28:21 PM
He perfectly knows it can't happen.
For a 'law' of that kind to be made, they would need to conflict with the fundamental bases of Western Constitutions in legal terms. Which means, even if it was officially planned, proposed, voted AND accepted it wouldn't work. Because it would be against the constitution. Meaning, can't pass the basic requirements of the law, according to the law.
What could technically happen at most -highly unlikely- is that people who uses media organs to make open, organised propaganda against a specific minority could be sued in some sort of civil court on 'purposefully provoking hatred/violence against a minority' WHICH I pretty much doubt would happen in Europe. Neo Nazi organisations wouldn't survive in Germany to begin with if that was the case.
Yeah, but why would right wingers take more than 2 seconds to think about that?
Quote from: PickelledEggs on December 05, 2018, 01:03:56 PM
People are fucking fleeing mass murder and pr and munch are more worried about a law that doesn't exist and realistically can't even exist.
Extreme right wing in a nutshell. Emphasis on the nut.
Let them move in with you. Increase tax rate on Communists, to pay for it, tax at 100% rate. Let them eat SNAP cards.
Quote from: PickelledEggs on December 05, 2018, 01:11:10 PM
Btw. Did you know obama is cumming for our gunz?
CIA/FBI ... coming for guns. D and R party are slaves of Deep State. If you can assassinate JFK, you can do anything you want.
Quote from: drunkenshoe on December 05, 2018, 01:28:21 PM
He perfectly knows it can't happen.
For a 'law' of that kind to be made, they would need to conflict with the fundamental bases of Western Constitutions in legal terms. Which means, even if it was officially planned, proposed, voted AND accepted it wouldn't work. Because it would be against the constitution. Meaning, can't pass the basic requirements of the law, according to the law.
What could technically happen at most -highly unlikely- is that people who uses media organs to make open, organised propaganda against a specific minority could be sued in some sort of civil court on 'purposefully provoking hatred/violence against a minority' WHICH I pretty much doubt would happen in Europe. Neo Nazi organisations wouldn't survive in Germany to begin with if that was the case.
Can't speak to Germany. There is no US constitution since 1950 (no declaration of war). The actual method to take guns or anything else, is IRS (guilty until proven innocent). The IRS is a total violation of the US constitution, but in 1930s, they thought this would only be used against Al Capone. Now everyone in the US is Al Capone. So basically, you get taxed (Roberts court decided that any tax at any level is ... constitutional). The SCOTUS has made a whole series of decisions as bad as Dred Scott.
Quote from: Baruch on December 05, 2018, 06:14:27 PM
Let them move in with you. Increase tax rate on Communists, to pay for it, tax at 100% rate. Let them eat SNAP cards.
I hate this "suggestion". It's more of the equivalent of them pitching a tent in my neighborhood and camping out, which is something I would be 100% ok with.
No one is putting themselves in a weird position by letting people migrate to our country. They aren't at a financial loss. They aren't losing anything. All they're getting is new neighbors.
So, the "let them live with you", is a false equivalency and more importantly, a severely devicive and manipulative one
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Quote from: Munch on December 05, 2018, 10:05:33 AM
I can assure you it won't do, infact it will have the opposite effect
I was actually being snarky earlier. I'm not actually pro-censorship, as strange as that may sound.
Quote from: Baruch on December 05, 2018, 06:14:27 PM
Let them move in with you.
Naah, what you wish to reach with that so called perspective wouldn't work in the USA. It's not Europe. LOL
Quote from: drunkenshoe on December 07, 2018, 08:40:58 AM
Naah, what you wish to reach with that so called perspective wouldn't work in the USA. It's not Europe. LOL
Different place, different history. I will take our Catholic Hispanics any day over your Muslim hordes.
If anyone is pro-censorship ... let them STFU.
Brexit is nothing new ... another long one for people with short attention spans.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wz_xU4_SEh8&list=PL72jhKwankOiQnZ22f-5V-GcOsEq-JSuc&index=51
Patriots = a nationalist faction in GB in 1740. Rule Britannia is their anthem of revolt against the Germanic domination of GB.
Quote from: pr126 on December 05, 2018, 12:42:32 AM
Not just in Europe.
Do you ever post without depending on someone's video? Just asking. I think saying something in one's own words is sort of the purpose here.
Quote from: Cavebear on December 09, 2018, 06:38:21 AM
Do you ever post without depending on someone's video? Just asking. I think saying something in one's own words is sort of the purpose here.
Does anybody consider, he may have eyesight problems, or simply doesn't read well? Not everyone is Shakespeare. Some are more George Lucas.
Quote from: Baruch on December 09, 2018, 07:09:49 AM
Does anybody consider, he may have eyesight problems, or simply doesn't read well? Not everyone is Shakespeare. Some are more George Lucas.
Odd, I had in mind replying about the Twilight Zone episode of the Shakespeare devotee who went back in time to meet Shakespeare only to find the old fart incompetent and had to write all the plays himself, leading to the question of who wrote them to begin with. Only I can't find it. Just some stuff about Shakespeare in modern times.
Am I forgetting the episode or the TV show? Or something?
Quote from: PickelledEggs on December 05, 2018, 08:40:46 PM
I hate this "suggestion". It's more of the equivalent of them pitching a tent in my neighborhood and camping out, which is something I would be 100% ok with.
let me tell you a little story. near to where my brother and his family live, on the way to my nephews school, there was a open park area with a path though to get though to their school. For about a year, travelers, or gypsies, took over this area. They didn't contribute anything to the local area, their kids harassed people in the area claiming it to be their land, they made a mess of the place, and shit in the open, remember this being a place children walk past to get to their school. It took a year for the legal documents to be filled out for allow police to force them to move on, but for that year, my nephews were scared to go to school because of all this.
Its all nice and good being all pc about people living in tents in your back yard when you've not lived with it.
QuoteNo one is putting themselves in a weird position by letting people migrate to our country. They aren't at a financial loss.
I know what your response to the yellow jacket uprising in France will be, but the reason for that uprising is the french government forcing higher tax rises on working class people, and the brought and sold news outlets claiming its to help stem environmental decline or some bullshit. Real fact is their forcing higher taxes because the cost of sustaining so many migrants who aren't contributing to their culture has made the french government to bleed it from the working class in France, which shouldn't surprise anyone since macron hates his own countries national identity.
QuoteThey aren't losing anything. All they're getting is new neighbors.
neighbors help each other out. They live in peace with one another. What neighbors don't do is move in, and expect the world around them to change for them. If they are neighbors, then their the kind of neighbors who move into a peaceful street, have raves in their front garden every night, shit on their neighbors lawn, let their dogs harassed their local children, and then make a turf war with their neighbors who called the police on them.
QuoteSo, the "let them live with you", is a false equivalency and more importantly, a severely devicive and manipulative one
Its easy to preach social justice from your safe space online about the state of the world while not really doing anything about it, isn't it?
Quote from: Munch on December 09, 2018, 08:01:55 AM
let me tell you a little story. near to where my brother and his family live, on the way to my nephews school, there was a open park area with a path though to get though to their school. For about a year, travelers, or gypsies, took over this area. They didn't contribute anything to the local area, their kids harassed people in the area claiming it to be their land, they made a mess of the place, and shit in the open, remember this being a place children walk past to get to their school. It took a year for the legal documents to be filled out for allow police to force them to move on, but for that year, my nephews were scared to go to school because of all this.
Its all nice and good being all pc about people living in tents in your back yard when you've not lived with it.
I know what your response to the yellow jacket uprising in France will be, but the reason for that uprising is the french government forcing higher tax rises on working class people, and the brought and sold news outlets claiming its to help stem environmental decline or some bullshit. Real fact is their forcing higher taxes because the cost of sustaining so many migrants who aren't contributing to their culture has made the french government to bleed it from the working class in France, which shouldn't surprise anyone since macron hates his own countries national identity.
neighbors help each other out. They live in peace with one another. What neighbors don't do is move in, and expect the world around them to change for them. If they are neighbors, then their the kind of neighbors who move into a peaceful street, have raves in their front garden every night, shit on their neighbors lawn, let their dogs harassed their local children, and then make a turf war with their neighbors who called the police on them.
Its easy to preach social justice from your safe space online about the state of the world while not really doing anything about it, isn't it?
I understand your problem with this. Maybe a question would be "Would citizens be allowed to do this"? If yes, then the newcomers can. If not, no.
And I recognize rights to general national hygiene... Pathogens can spread in uncontrolled situations and citizens have a right to protection from that.
Quote from: Cavebear on December 09, 2018, 08:16:01 AM
I understand your problem with this. Maybe a question would be "Would citizens be allowed to do this"? If yes, then the newcomers can. If not, no.
where i am, a tax paying citizen harassing people in the street and shitting in public gets to arrested for public indecency and harassment. It wasn't tackled because of the bigger issue of local law enforcement having the rights to move travelers on. Its something to do with squatters rights if someones doesn't illegally break into or onto a land or property. That stupid law of course has been abused by those knowing about it.
QuoteAnd I recognize rights to general national hygiene... Pathogens can spread in uncontrolled situations and citizens have a right to protection from that.
pretty much yes. of course all the red tape from local councils don't help.
Quote from: Munch on December 09, 2018, 09:06:25 AM
where i am, a tax paying citizen harassing people in the street and shitting in public gets to arrested for public indecency and harassment. It wasn't tackled because of the bigger issue of local law enforcement having the rights to move travelers on. Its something to do with squatters rights if someones doesn't illegally break into or onto a land or property. That stupid law of course has been abused by those knowing about it.
pretty much yes. of course all the red tape from local councils don't help.
Perhaps the solution is to provide decent housing and health care? I bet a lot of those people would like to have even a really crummy job. I don't know of anyone who wants to live where they have to shit...
Quote from: Munch on December 09, 2018, 09:06:25 AM
where i am, a tax paying citizen harassing people in the street and shitting in public gets to arrested for public indecency and harassment. It wasn't tackled because of the bigger issue of local law enforcement having the rights to move travelers on. Its something to do with squatters rights if someones doesn't illegally break into or onto a land or property. That stupid law of course has been abused by those knowing about it.
pretty much yes. of course all the red tape from local councils don't help.
Local police only take care of the issues the powerful care about. They don't care about this, or about you.
Also America hardly sees any Gypsies. They don't stand out here culturally, from the other marginalized folks. Usually called Irish Travelers, I understand they are non-Romani, who are living the Gypsy lifestyle. I may have encountered them only once in my lifetime ... they usually out of state vehicle, that shop lifts or eats a meal without paying.
Don't knock it. In the future, we will either be Gypsies or dead. At the end of the Roman Empire, many would rather be German than Roman, even if they didn't start out that way.
Quote from: Cavebear on December 09, 2018, 07:45:35 AM
Odd, I had in mind replying about the Twilight Zone episode of the Shakespeare devotee who went back in time to meet Shakespeare only to find the old fart incompetent and had to write all the plays himself, leading to the question of who wrote them to begin with. Only I can't find it. Just some stuff about Shakespeare in modern times.
Am I forgetting the episode or the TV show? Or something?
That also happened in a Blackadder episode (at least in part).
Quote from: Cavebear on December 09, 2018, 10:10:02 AM
Perhaps the solution is to provide decent housing and health care? I bet a lot of those people would like to have even a really crummy job. I don't know of anyone who wants to live where they have to shit...
the uk has a free health service for those who have medical needs. We also have free housing support.
The reality though of these travelers here in the uk are they don't want to be part of the system everyone else is.
They also more often teach their children to feel hate for the rest of society and attack them or take what they want.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOirMT6FGlw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwupCQbkFL4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDgZuMCTmoA
as the last video illustrates, they want to live outside the law of the land, not become part of it. You might get a few friendly gypsies but the overall status of them is teaching their children to feel contempt for the rest of society around them unless its one of their own.
Real Gypsies have always lived outside the law, for 1000 years now. They are a secretive, tribal, pagan group from N India originally.
Invited any of them to a BBQ or for chips?
Quote from: Cavebear on December 18, 2018, 06:51:38 AM
Invited any of them to a BBQ or for chips?
I don't fancy having their kids shit on my lawn.
Quote from: Munch on December 18, 2018, 06:53:46 AM
I don't fancy having their kids shit on my lawn.
I thought Brits had a "thing" for gardening ;-)
Quote from: Munch on December 18, 2018, 06:53:46 AM
I don't fancy having their kids shit on my lawn.
Fertilizer is where you find it... Dogs do it here. But seriously, teach them to belong. Or do you just WANT to complain forever?
Quote from: Cavebear on December 18, 2018, 07:00:38 AM
Fertilizer is where you find it... Dogs do it here. But seriously, teach them to belong. Or do you just WANT to complain forever?
Hard to teach people if they refuse to learn.
Quote from: Munch on December 18, 2018, 07:04:59 AM
Hard to teach people if they refuse to learn.
Yes. In places with little water, people wipe their asses without convenient toilet paper. They shit in specific areas and walk through the areas back to camp. Life can be brutal and full of disease. What would YOU do?
But "refuse"? I doubt that. Given a chance, most people will try to stay clean in many ways. What you do when you haven't much choice is not what you do given some choice.
A teaching machine can be eye opening ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E51-2B8gHtk
I guess, Cavebear, you could easily persuade people in your office, if you dictated ordering of paper and pens.