https://edition.cnn.com/videos/world/2018/11/22/us-missionary-killed-tribespeople-north-sentinel-island-vpx.cnn/video/playlists/around-the-world/
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/11/21/asia/andaman-nicobar-us-missionary-killed-intl/index.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5GxyVstvFY
QuoteNew Delhi (CNN)An American Christian believed to have been engaged in missionary work appears to have been killed by tribespeople from one of the world's most isolated communities, on a remote island hundreds of miles off the coast of India, according to officials.
The 27-year-old American, identified as John Allen Chau, came to India on a tourist visa but came to the Andaman and Nicobar islands in October with the express purpose of proselytizing, Dependra Pathak, director general of police of the Andaman and Nicobar islands, told CNN.
"We refuse to call him a tourist. Yes, he came on a tourist visa but he came with a specific purpose to preach on a prohibited island," Pathak said.
Chau did not inform the police of his intentions to travel to the island to attempt to convert its inhabitants, officials said.
The adventurer's relatives, in a post on his Instagram page, said Wednesday that Chau was a beloved family member. "To others he was a Christian missionary, a wilderness EMT, an international soccer coach, and a mountaineer. He loved God, life, helping those in need, and had nothing but love for the Sentinelese people." The family said it forgives those who took Chau's life.
The island, North Sentinel Island, is inhabited by the Sentinelese, who are protected under Indian law. Just more than a dozen people are officially thought to live on the remote island in the Andaman and Nicobar archipelago.
The island is a protected area, and people are not allowed to go within 5 nautical miles of it, after previous incidents of aggressive behavior toward outsiders were observed. In 2006, two local fishermen were killed by the tribes.
Illegal access
Pathak said the American missionary had asked one of his local friends, an electronic engineer, to arrange a boat and find some fishermen who could take him to the island. The contact found a boat and the fishermen, along with a water sports expert, to help with the expedition.
All seven locals who facilitated the trip have been arrested.
"According to the fishermen, they used a wooden boat fitted with motors to travel to the island on November 15," Pathak said.
"The boat stopped 500-700 meters (1,640 - 2,300 feet) away from the island and (the American missionary) used a canoe to reach the shore of the island. He came back later that day with arrow injuries. On the 16th, the (tribespeople) broke his canoe.
"So he came back to the boat swimming. He did not come back on the 17th; the fishermen later saw the tribespeople dragging his body around."
The police haven't independently verified that he is dead, but based on what the fishermen have told them believe that he was killed.
"We have a team out in the waters for reconnaissance and to strategize how to recover his body. The team consists of coastal guards, officials from tribal welfare department, forest department officers and police officials."
Remote, largely isolated
An official from the US Consulate in Chennai confirmed that diplomats are "aware of reports concerning a US citizen in the Andaman and Nicobar Islands."
"When a US citizen is missing, we work closely with local authorities as they carry out their search efforts. Due to privacy considerations, we have no further comment," the official said.
Chau was "martyred," said Mat Staver, founder and chairman of Covenant Journey, a Christian ministry that introduces college-age students to Israel through an immersion program.
"John loved people, and he loved Jesus. He was willing to give his life to share Jesus with the people on North Sentinel island," Staver said in a press release. "Ever since high school, John wanted to go to North Sentinel to share Jesus with this indigenous people."
The island group is about 850 miles (1,370 kilometers) east of the Indian subcontinent.
There are 572 islands in the Andaman and Nicobar Islands territory, only three dozen of which are inhabited. The territory has a population of nearly 380,000, according to India's 2011 census.
The 2011 survey only spotted 15 Sentinelese on their island -- the count was done from a distance due to the danger in approaching the tribe. In the 2001 census, the total population was estimated to be 39.
India has designated five indigenous tribal groups in the territory as "particularly vulnerable" due to the loss of sustaining resources and customs.
India's Ministry of Tribal Affairs has said that, with regard to Sentinelese tribes, the Andaman and Nicobar Islands administration "has adopted an 'eyes-on and hands-off' policy to ensure that no poachers enter into the island."
Survival International, a nongovernmental group that says it is dedicated to tribal peoples' rights, said Indian authorities should ensure outsiders not make contact with the tribe, because of the risk of disease or threats to their land.
"The Sentinelese have shown again and again that they want to be left alone, and their wishes should be respected," the group said. "The British colonial occupation of the Andaman Islands decimated the tribes living there, wiping out thousands of tribespeople, and only a fraction of the original population now survive. So the Sentinelese fear of outsiders is very understandable."
All that came to mind first was:
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Doesn't surprise me really. To be so willfully ignorant to not take into account the damage your actions could have. He could have brought disease to these isolated people, he ignored all authority and warning thinking 'GOD IS GREAT' that it would protect him from arrows and spears, all to push his idiotic indoctrination on an isolated people.
Honestly, doesn't feel like a tragedy, feels more like one less stupid person on the planet.
Yeah, my first reaction was---culling the herd.
I guess god did not see fit to have him live. :) I only hope the indians aren't punished.
Same as people trying to evangelize N Korea. But eventually the Muslims will come, and exterminate those islanders anyway.
No, eventually the ocean will come and exterminate those islanders.
My first thought was "Oh, great, another Darwin award recipient!"
His family and fellow faith-heads think of him as a martyr, and are happy as God's little clams that he's in the arms o' Jesus now, having died for the Lord.
I don't know where I come down in the debate as to whether these folks are being deprived of modern progress, or should just be left alone to do their own thing. But any contact with them should certainly be done very carefully, or they'll all be dead within a few years. Goddamned missionaries are the very last people in the world that should be anywhere near them.
Quote from: Unbeliever on November 24, 2018, 01:15:00 PM
No, eventually the ocean will come and exterminate those islanders.
My first thought was "Oh, great, another Darwin award recipient!"
His family and fellow faith-heads think of him as a martyr, and are happy as God's little clams that he's in the arms o' Jesus now, having died for the Lord.
I don't know where I come down in the debate as to whether these folks are being deprived of modern progress, or should just be left alone to do their own thing. But any contact with them should certainly be done very carefully, or they'll all be dead within a few years. Goddamned missionaries are the very last people in the world that should be anywhere near them.
No, you will kill them because you didn't stop driving your car!
Progressives, killing inferiors since the invention of cities.
He wasn't a tourist, he was a missionary. He was an idiot, driven to tell heathens (to his mind) that THEY were idiots. He went to teach them that what had sustained them for millennia was wrong. He got some local fishermen in trouble for helping him to get o a group of people who should have been left alone.
He was the child of medieval fanatics who burned scientists at the stake, burned their books and denied their evidence.
He was the child of the Spanish conquistadors who destroyed native american civilizations.
He was the child of Europeans who spread blankets of diseases to people who were not immune to those diseases.
He is a child of Jonestown and every sick fanatic group who thought they were THE ONLY WAY.
He was trash! And I hope his last gasping breath was a useless pleading to the deity that only existed in his mind.
The crazies like him can best serve the world by ridding us of them.
Evolution In Action...
Quote from: Baruch on November 24, 2018, 02:33:58 PM
No, you will kill them because you didn't stop driving your car!
I haven't driven a car in about 20 years.
Quote from: Unbeliever on November 24, 2018, 04:02:25 PM
I haven't driven a car in about 20 years.
Just out of curiousity and no sarc meant, but is it staying very local walking distance or is it taxi/friends/bicycle?
Walking. I don't even take busses, as they're too expensive. I don't want a bike for various reasons, either. I'm just lucky I still have the ability to walk, or I'd be in real trouble!
Quote from: Unbeliever on November 24, 2018, 04:21:27 PM
Walking. I don't even take busses, as they're too expensive. I don't want a bike for various reasons, either. I'm just lucky I still have the ability to walk, or I'd be in real trouble!
Grok. I had a friend who was walking distance to everything he usually needed. More than a mile, he had me and my car, LOL!
Quote from: Unbeliever on November 24, 2018, 04:02:25 PM
I haven't driven a car in about 20 years.
Your people who provide you food, do. Tell them to stop. Or do you grow your own food in your back yard? Do you use electricity from anything other than solar/wind? Typical clueless bourgeoise?
I wasn't going to talk about this, cause I don't want to seem callous about someone's death or worse, cheer about it when that person wasn't a mass murderer or anything particularly heinous.
But god damn, this guy was told not to go there, had to evade naval patrols designed to stop him from getting there, got shot at before that fatal day, etc. All the warning signs were there.
And the cherry on top is that he likely knew that this isolated tribe does NOT have any resistance to foreign diseases. So all it takes is one cough - one sneeze - one handshake - and they're all toast. That's incredibly irresponsible. Even the rare visits by anthropologists take great care to minimize any health risks to the natives - limiting their visit time, staying away if they show the slightest symptoms of even a mild cold, etc.
Then I read about how the victim's family "forgives" their son's killers and I think to myself, did the Sentinelese actually commit a crime, either morally or legally? From their perspective, they're just defending themselves from foreign intrusion. The person who should've been asking for forgiveness is the missionary, who trespassed and ignored mortal peril in the arrogant belief that he was under some sort of divine protection and guidance. That's who should've asked for forgiveness. Of course, that's impossible now.
And then I read about how the victim's family "doesn't seek justice" in this case. Well, I should hope not! First off, India's laws don't apply to the Sentinelese. And besides, what are Indian authorities supposed to do, launch a police raid and round up natives for trial? Would any accused natives even understand the court proceedings? And the purpose of laws from their very first inception is to protect people. That protection is provided by warning people away from the island - ignoring those warnings and doing whatever you want anyway is basically the same as walking around Chernobyl or jumping in a tiger enclosure. You violated the law. You took the risk. Whatever happens is your fault, you can't pass the blame.
The sheer arrogance and entitlement of this whole thing really annoys me. Just because you purport a holy cause doesn't mean you can ignore the law, endanger the lives of yourself and other people, ignore the wishes of the people you're "helping", and trespass on land that doesn't belong to you. This is the same sort of mentality that ruined the lives of a bunch of natives in the past. Must we repeat these mistakes?
It is OK to kill people. Get over yourselves.
Quote from: Baruch on November 25, 2018, 04:04:55 AM
It is OK to kill people. Get over yourselves.
But not you supposed to eat them
Quote from: Hydra009 on November 25, 2018, 01:17:53 AM
The sheer arrogance and entitlement of this whole thing really annoys me.
The arrogance of the whole thing has bothered me from the start. I feel bad that the guy was killed, but that kind of arrogance is exactly the kind of thing that gets people into trouble. He was at fault. Granted, he didn't realize he would likely be killed because he believed his opinion was so important. Such is the power of opinion carried to extreme.
Quote from: Hydra009 on November 25, 2018, 01:17:53 AM
Then I read about how the victim's family "forgives" their son's killers... The person who should've been asking for forgiveness is the missionary, who trespassed and ignored mortal peril in the arrogant belief that he was under some sort of divine protection and guidance.
That adds another layer of arrogance on top of the original. I'm sorry for the family. Maybe they can use the experience to understand why medaling in the lives of others is not as glorious as they believe. They won't of course.
I never feel sorry for idiots. Back in '71 a skypilot told me that "God is watching out for you." After the number of body bags I'd seen leaving our base I didn't care much for that shit. And I told him so. After a bit of spirited debate he offered to prove that God was "with us" and he'd prove it. We left on patrol with about 200 pounds of bullshit sitting on the stern and radiating confidence. To make a long story short there was one more body bag on the helos that night.
Quote from: Hydra009 on November 25, 2018, 01:17:53 AM
I wasn't going to talk about this, cause I don't want to seem callous about someone's death or worse, cheer about it when that person wasn't a mass murderer or anything particularly heinous.
But god damn, this guy was told not to go there, had to evade naval patrols designed to stop him from getting there, got shot at before that fatal day, etc. All the warning signs were there.
And the cherry on top is that he likely knew that this isolated tribe does NOT have any resistance to foreign diseases. So all it takes is one cough - one sneeze - one handshake - and they're all toast. That's incredibly irresponsible. Even the rare visits by anthropologists take great care to minimize any health risks to the natives - limiting their visit time, staying away if they show the slightest symptoms of even a mild cold, etc.
Then I read about how the victim's family "forgives" their son's killers and I think to myself, did the Sentinelese actually commit a crime, either morally or legally? From their perspective, they're just defending themselves from foreign intrusion. The person who should've been asking for forgiveness is the missionary, who trespassed and ignored mortal peril in the arrogant belief that he was under some sort of divine protection and guidance. That's who should've asked for forgiveness. Of course, that's impossible now.
And then I read about how the victim's family "doesn't seek justice" in this case. Well, I should hope not! First off, India's laws don't apply to the Sentinelese. And besides, what are Indian authorities supposed to do, launch a police raid and round up natives for trial? Would any accused natives even understand the court proceedings? And the purpose of laws from their very first inception is to protect people. That protection is provided by warning people away from the island - ignoring those warnings and doing whatever you want anyway is basically the same as walking around Chernobyl or jumping in a tiger enclosure. You violated the law. You took the risk. Whatever happens is your fault, you can't pass the blame.
The sheer arrogance and entitlement of this whole thing really annoys me. Just because you purport a holy cause doesn't mean you can ignore the law, endanger the lives of yourself and other people, ignore the wishes of the people you're "helping", and trespass on land that doesn't belong to you. This is the same sort of mentality that ruined the lives of a bunch of natives in the past. Must we repeat these mistakes?
................But God.................
The hubris of shit like this just makes me furious! I feel as you do.........
Quote from: pr126 on November 25, 2018, 05:40:21 AM
But not you supposed to eat them
Eating Gentiles isn't kosher, I am not sure about eating Jews ;-)
Quote from: SGOS on November 25, 2018, 07:46:47 AM
The arrogance of the whole thing has bothered me from the start. I feel bad that the guy was killed, but that kind of arrogance is exactly the kind of thing that gets people into trouble. He was at fault. Granted, he didn't realize he would likely be killed because he believed his opinion was so important. Such is the power of opinion carried to extreme.
That adds another layer of arrogance on top of the original. I'm sorry for the family. Maybe they can use the experience to understand why medaling in the lives of others is not as glorious as they believe. They won't of course.
Ah, but the arrogance and entitlement of socialist drug addicts is fine (not accusing you)? Yes, hubris is bad. But it is more than just brain dead evangelism.
If you don't do drugs I'm at a total loss to explain your posts.
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on November 25, 2018, 12:12:44 PM
If you don't do drugs I'm at a total loss to explain your posts.
H2O is a molecule. An overdose will kill you.
You probably know, that all addictions are actually about brain chemicals, and that all sorts of things, both molecules and behavior patterns stimulate that joy ride. Yeah, I have my own addictions. So I won't give people too much trouble for what they imbibe or smoke, other than counseling moderation in all things.
One less God-bothering brain-dead faith-head on the planet is fine by me.
Quote from: Unbeliever on November 25, 2018, 05:27:11 PM
One less God-bothering brain-dead faith-head on the planet is fine by me.
Cruel? Well Satan approves then.
Quote from: Baruch on November 25, 2018, 01:32:43 PM
H2O is a molecule. An overdose will kill you.
You probably know, that all addictions are actually about brain chemicals, and that all sorts of things, both molecules and behavior patterns stimulate that joy ride. Yeah, I have my own addictions. So I won't give people too much trouble for what they imbibe or smoke, other than counseling moderation in all things.
I'm not going to lie Baruch, I honestly have had a hard time understanding some of your posts lately. I don't know if that's an intentional perplexity or not, but I have noticed it lately.
One thing I found out after reading more about this: the missionary went to Oral Roberts University. In response to the incident, they had this to say:
"Oral Roberts University alumni have gone to the uttermost bounds of the earth for the last 50 years bringing hope and healing to millions"
There's a curious lack of caution or admonishment that missionaries should heed the wishes of the people they're trying to "bring hope and healing" to. Instead, they're extolling the virtues of their missionaries going to "the uttermost bounds of the earth" - places like North Sentinel Island.
Hmmm...it almost seems as if this wasn't wholly his idea...
Quote from: Shiranu on November 26, 2018, 06:54:10 AM
I'm not going to lie Baruch, I honestly have had a hard time understanding some of your posts lately. I don't know if that's an intentional perplexity or not, but I have noticed it lately.
Not intentional.
Quote from: Hydra009 on November 26, 2018, 12:13:22 PM
One thing I found out after reading more about this: the missionary went to Oral Roberts University. In response to the incident, they had this to say:
"Oral Roberts University alumni have gone to the uttermost bounds of the earth for the last 50 years bringing hope and healing to millions"
There's a curious lack of caution or admonishment that missionaries should heed the wishes of the people they're trying to "bring hope and healing" to. Instead, they're extolling the virtues of their missionaries going to "the uttermost bounds of the earth" - places like North Sentinel Island.
Hmmm...it almost seems as if this wasn't wholly his idea...
There is a false messianic notion, that once the last non-Christian hears the Gospel, then the world will come to an end. It has only been kept going by G-d, because that hasn't been accomplished yet. A bit like the Arthur C Clarke story, The Nine Billions Names of God.
Quote from: Hydra009 on November 26, 2018, 12:13:22 PM
One thing I found out after reading more about this: the missionary went to Oral Roberts University. In response to the incident, they had this to say:
"Oral Roberts University alumni have gone to the uttermost bounds of the earth for the last 50 years bringing hope and healing to millions"
There's a curious lack of caution or admonishment that missionaries should heed the wishes of the people they're trying to "bring hope and healing" to. Instead, they're extolling the virtues of their missionaries going to "the uttermost bounds of the earth" - places like North Sentinel Island.
Hmmm...it almost seems as if this wasn't wholly his idea...
I'm sure he had help. It's not like people live in a vacuum and come up with these ideas all by themselves.
I don't understand why they are trying to recover the body. Even he said not to do that.
Maybe they believe that without a Christian burial he won't go to Heaven?
But that makes no sense, since he would presumably have met their other criteria for inclusion among "the saved."
But then, very few of their beliefs make sense.
Does one still carry disease when they die? I hope the can find the body and either get it out or burn it or maybe god can rapture it once it is uncovered so he can find it.....ole god has a hard time finding humans it seems....
His fellow cult members could just pray to God to bring his body to them.
Quote from: aitm on November 26, 2018, 04:28:31 PM
Does one still carry disease when they die? I hope the can find the body and either get it out or burn it or maybe god can rapture it once it is uncovered so he can find it.....ole god has a hard time finding humans it seems....
Bodies are buried or burned because they're contagion dangers. Bugs can migrate from the body to the soil, water or air.
Quote from: Unbeliever on November 26, 2018, 04:18:25 PM
Maybe they believe that without a Christian burial he won't go to Heaven?
But that makes no sense, since he would presumably have met their other criteria for inclusion among "the saved."
But then, very few of their beliefs make sense.
If their cult believes in bodily resurrection (not spiritual as Paul said) ... then yes, they have to recover the body to facilitate his resurrection as a brain eating Christian zombie.
To your scattered bodies go.
Quote from: aitm on November 26, 2018, 04:28:31 PM
Does one still carry disease when they die? I hope the can find the body and either get it out or burn it or maybe god can rapture it once it is uncovered so he can find it.....ole god has a hard time finding humans it seems....
I knew an undertaker that told me a couple of times, "If I do my job right, all disease stops with me." He was bragging when he'd say it, and I did wonder if he knew what he was talking about, but then he knew more than I did about dead bodies filled with embalming fluid, I suppose.
Quote from: SGOS on November 28, 2018, 08:36:09 AM
I knew an undertaker that told me a couple of times, "If I do my job right, all disease stops with me." He was bragging when he'd say it, and I did wonder if he knew what he was talking about, but then he knew more than I did about dead bodies filled with embalming fluid, I suppose.
The rule is that there should be nothing alive when the corpse goes into the ground.
However: People who are hired to move graveyards are advised that they will have to be quarantined for 2-3 months after the job is done. Ninety days locked up with a crowd of manual laborers, sounds wonderful. I'd go sane.
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on November 28, 2018, 12:30:14 PM
The rule is that there should be nothing alive when the corpse goes into the ground.
However: People who are hired to move graveyards are advised that they will have to be quarantined for 2-3 months after the job is done. Ninety days locked up with a crowd of manual laborers, sounds wonderful. I'd go sane.
That was because in days of yore, 20% of the people buried, were in comas, not embalmed. Cremation usually works though.
"Usually"? Yeah, I'd certainly hope so! LOL
Quote from: Baruch on November 28, 2018, 01:11:30 PM
That was because in days of yore, 20% of the people buried, were in comas, not embalmed. Cremation usually works though.
The heart doesn't stop when a person is in a coma. The respiration doesn't stop when a person is in a coma.
Quote from: Unbeliever on November 28, 2018, 01:14:48 PM
"Usually"? Yeah, I'd certainly hope so! LOL
The demonic consider the lake of fire to be a vacation.
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on November 28, 2018, 01:18:52 PM
The heart doesn't stop when a person is in a coma. The respiration doesn't stop when a person is in a coma.
Burial standards were lax even 100 years ago (so evidence shows) ... and families/murderers didn't want inquests.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnDMmkPqj7I
I'm expecting other such missionaries to try the same thing, and I hope they all meet the same end.
ugh, the young turks..
Quote from: Munch on December 04, 2018, 03:44:28 PM
ugh, the young turks..
I don't think those D party cretins would ever try anything actually risky. They are journalists.
Quote from: Baruch on December 04, 2018, 07:03:56 PM
I don't think those D party cretins would ever try anything actually risky. They are journalists.
in loosest sense of the word.
I originally thought "one more crazy religious idiot missionary and good-riddance". But then I read about the possibility of pathogen infection. That hit hard. The people he interacted with do not have the experience and survival of many common diseases we "moderns" have.
The missionary's thoughtless act of exposure of an isolated group was unthinking and possibly lethal.
I hope he died painfully...
His action could even be construed as attempted murder.
Karma's a bitch.
It wasn't karma, it was consequences.
Quote from: Unbeliever on December 05, 2018, 03:56:33 PM
It wasn't karma, it was consequences.
It was karma for me, knowing someone that thoughtless of their actions and the lives of others got them killed, and that just feels good.
It's the same feeling when I read a report of a big game hunter getting killed by animals.
OK, but that's not karma. Karma happens in the next life, not this one.
https://www.persecution.org/2018/11/26/icc-clarifies-earlier-news-release-regarding-death-missionary-john-chau/
QuoteICC Clarifies Earlier News Release Regarding the Death of Missionary John Chau
11/26/2018 Washington D.C. (International Christian Concern) â€" International Christian Concern (ICC) issued a news release on November 20, 2018, titled “American Missionary Reportedly Murdered by Hostile Tribe in India.†Near the end of that news release, we included this sentence: “A full investigation must be launched in this murder and those responsible must be brought to justice.â€
This language calling for justice for the victim is “boilerplate†language in our news releases, as we continually deal with governments around the world that fail to prosecute perpetrators of religiously motivated violence.
John Chau was fully aware of the risk of his visits and returned to the island even after being shot at with arrows where he narrowly escaped.
We have no wish to see his killers prosecuted even though the Indian police called for such in early statements to the Indian media.
ICC’s thoughts and prayers remain with Chau’s family and friends.
I hope this faith-head group doesn't try to retaliate against the islanders. I wouldn't put it past them.
people just can't let well enough alone.
then again we live in a world where people hunt animals to near extinction, and only species surviving due to them being protected in parks.
sometimes wish fort nature to start things over again.
Funny how many people forget "n't", isn't it?
One of my favs.
(https://i.imgur.com/fFgSnL4.jpg)
Yeah, that's pretty funny!
Quote from: Unbeliever on December 07, 2018, 08:20:27 PM
Yeah, that's pretty funny!
People are the same everywhere. But nobody is like a proboscis monkey, except a proboscis monkey.
Quote from: Unbeliever on December 05, 2018, 03:56:33 PM
It wasn't karma, it was consequences.
It's hilarious, is what it is.
Quote from: Hijiri Byakuren on December 07, 2018, 09:38:27 PM
It's hilarious, is what it is.
May a New Guinea tribesman capture your head too.
Quote from: Baruch on December 07, 2018, 09:40:37 PM
May a New Guinea tribesman capture your head too.
Unlike this missionary, I'm not dumb enough to allow them the chance.
I wouldn't mind if my head were to end up in someone's collection - I certainly won't need it much longer.
Quote from: Unbeliever on December 08, 2018, 01:36:02 PM
I wouldn't mind if my head were to end up in someone's collection - I certainly won't need it much longer.
But not still on your head, and shrunk, like Beetlejuice, right?
Right! LOL
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on December 07, 2018, 06:51:02 AM
Funny how many people forget "n't", isn't it?
A failing I struggle against constantly. You would BELIEVE how many times that has gotten me in trouble in the past. So I look at my posts for every time. And I bet I still miss it sometimes!
And oh crap I did it again! And it wasn't deliberate.
I think faster than I type...
Apparently the same thing happened to Trump in Helsinki. LOL
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/24-hours-later-trump-claims-he-misspoke-helsinki-meant-say-n892166
Quote from: Cavebear on December 09, 2018, 06:43:34 AM
A failing I struggle against constantly. You would BELIEVE how many times that has gotten me in trouble in the past. So I look at my posts for every time. And I bet I still miss it sometimes!
And oh crap I did it again! And it wasn't deliberate.
I think faster than I type...
I once said "The US military is a bunch of drunks with guns."
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on December 09, 2018, 06:48:18 PM
I once said "The US military is a bunch of drunks with guns."
True, but with enough firepower, you don't need to target too closely.
You were in, and saw some of the worst war. You would be nothing today, without that trauma, right? Men are made thru scar tissue.
Here's a lady who really tells it like it is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hg7lSrAc3cI
Quote from: Unbeliever on December 20, 2018, 01:52:56 PM
Here's a lady who really tells it like it is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hg7lSrAc3cI
Some idiots deserve to be killed... Hey, there are 7 billion of us. We can stand to lose some of the dumbest.
I think of it as "evolution in action".
I think of it as survival of the reality-based.
Quote from: Unbeliever on December 21, 2018, 01:22:03 PM
I think of it as survival of the reality-based.
That's not perfect. Some idiots stay behind...
We need something for comic relief...
Quote from: Unbeliever on December 21, 2018, 03:34:57 PM
We need something for comic relief...
How about a film showing the harvesting of baby seals?
Quote from: Unbeliever on December 21, 2018, 03:34:57 PM
We need something for comic relief...
Video of the killing might be instructional for others who want to try it. And for the authorities who are trying to let those people live their lives in peace...
Quote from: Cavebear on December 26, 2018, 02:03:37 AM
Video of the killing might be instructional for others who want to try it. And for the authorities who are trying to let those people live their lives in peace...
People migrate. So there is no peace. Not even in one's own household. So you want to privilege some primitives, because some Elite live in gated communities?
Quote from: Baruch on December 26, 2018, 02:51:36 AM
People migrate. So there is no peace. Not even in one's own household. So you want to privilege some primitives, because some Elite live in gated communities?
1. Non-sequitor.
2. Those people weren't migrating.
3. Gated communities aren't involved.
4. Whether you have peace in your household is irrelevant to those island people.
Quote from: Cavebear on January 05, 2019, 04:49:45 PM
1. Non-sequitor.
2. Those people weren't migrating.
3. Gated communities aren't involved.
4. Whether you have peace in your household is irrelevant to those island people.
Context. My post was contra using this as "illustrative" example in other circumstances. In which case, it is apples vs oranges. Unless everyone is an island dwelling savage.
Quote from: Baruch on January 05, 2019, 07:11:57 PM
Context. My post was contra using this as "illustrative" example in other circumstances. In which case, it is apples vs oranges. Unless everyone is an island dwelling savage.
Your post was quite clearly about the specific islanders invaded by the missionary. Please don't insult our intelligence by pretending otherwise.
Quote from: Cavebear on January 05, 2019, 08:30:26 PM
Your post was quite clearly about the specific islanders invaded by the missionary. Please don't insult our intelligence by pretending otherwise.
You misread, need glasses?