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Title: Thank you, Emmanuel Macron.
Post by: pr126 on November 19, 2018, 10:23:47 AM
For the new, improved Paris.

Why is this called a refugee crisis? They are not refugees and it is not a crisis.
It is all going according to a plan, set in motion decades ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeDjrHdTsv8
Title: Re: Thank you, Emmanuel Macron.
Post by: Cavebear on November 24, 2018, 03:33:16 PM
Imagine a funnel.  Large at the top, small at the bottom.  Most rational people scoop their news from the top.  Now imagine conspiracy news.  They are a very small part of the top.  but as the crap sinks to the bottom, they become a larger share.  Until at the very bottom, they are all that is left.

And there are people who live in the bottom of the funnel.  There are even a few here who reside there.  Looking at the bottom of the funnel is not a pretty sight.
Title: Re: Thank you, Emmanuel Macron.
Post by: pr126 on November 26, 2018, 09:29:45 AM
Paris burning.

I suppose he is got to get the money somehow to pay for the migrants.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0t6oWkYXL2g
Title: Re: Thank you, Emmanuel Macron.
Post by: Baruch on November 26, 2018, 01:00:23 PM
Macron now says, will delay Brexit indefinitely unless EU can keep all fishing rights in British waters.
Title: Re: Thank you, Emmanuel Macron.
Post by: pr126 on November 28, 2018, 08:41:46 AM
Marine Le Pen now more popular than Emmanuel Macron, poll shows (https://voiceofeurope.com/2018/11/marine-le-pen-now-more-popular-than-emmanuel-macron-poll-shows/)
QuoteThe beleaguered President Macron breaks another historic record, as he is now the most unpopular French president in history at this stage of his presidency. A new poll shows that also Marine Le Pen has surpassed him in popularity.
Too late bozos, you made your choice. Suck it up.
Title: Re: Thank you, Emmanuel Macron.
Post by: pr126 on November 28, 2018, 08:46:09 AM
Quote from: Baruch on November 26, 2018, 01:00:23 PM
Macron now says, will delay Brexit indefinitely unless EU can keep all fishing rights in British waters.
I think Brexit is dead in the water.

President Trump suggests no US-UK Trade Deal possible with May’s Brexit deal (https://voiceofeurope.com/2018/11/president-trump-suggests-no-us-uk-trade-deal-possible-with-mays-brexit-deal/)
Title: Re: Thank you, Emmanuel Macron.
Post by: Baruch on November 28, 2018, 01:05:01 PM
Quote from: pr126 on November 28, 2018, 08:46:09 AM
I think Brexit is dead in the water.

President Trump suggests no US-UK Trade Deal possible with May’s Brexit deal (https://voiceofeurope.com/2018/11/president-trump-suggests-no-us-uk-trade-deal-possible-with-mays-brexit-deal/)

Not a problem ... EU with or without Brexit, is about turning Europe into the Zombie Apocalypse ... because Russia.

I will believe Brexit will go forward when PM May is removed from office.  If the Tories don't dump her, and if you re-poll the general population Brexit vote, y'all might as learn the Quran, in the original German.
Title: Re: Thank you, Emmanuel Macron.
Post by: drunkenshoe on December 02, 2018, 08:01:25 AM
LOL. Because Paris didn't get into a chaos once in every 5-7 years before Macron? I am 42, I don't remember a period France didn't get into a chaos, riots for something. This is a country which warns tourists regularly that anyone can encounter a big strike or protests that could distrupt daily life. It's not the UK or the US.

Meanwhile in UK, there is a risk of being cut from medicine, fresh vegetables and fruits for months, because of Brexit bullshit. Why don't you post a thread about that instead of the reasons of famine in Africa, pr?     
Title: Re: Thank you, Emmanuel Macron.
Post by: pr126 on December 02, 2018, 08:16:05 AM
Brexit is not going to happen. The globalist EU will make sure of it.
Don't want to set a precedent. Must stop the domino effect.


Title: Re: Thank you, Emmanuel Macron.
Post by: drunkenshoe on December 02, 2018, 09:32:14 AM
You wish, it wouldn't happen. It will happen and people will pay for it dearly. It will ruin a lot of lives in this or that way.

And then people like you will blame everything & everyone, but the liars and sharlatans that caused this mess. 
Title: Re: Thank you, Emmanuel Macron.
Post by: pr126 on December 02, 2018, 10:25:57 AM
Quote from: drunkenshoe on December 02, 2018, 09:32:14 AM
You wish, it wouldn't happen. It will happen and people will pay for it dearly. It will ruin a lot of lives in this or that way.

And then people like you will blame everything & everyone, but the liars and sharlatans that caused this mess. 

I have voted to leave the EU.
I don't want to be ruled by a group of unelected, answerable to nobody globalist.

But why is this an issue for you?
Title: Re: Thank you, Emmanuel Macron.
Post by: SoldierofFortune on December 02, 2018, 10:36:25 AM
Like pr said, it is a planned thing...
according to the renowned strategy centers in the world, big crises await the world between 2019 and 20...
nothing happens and improves indepedent from external factors... ı believe that this has been planned years ago..
Title: Re: Thank you, Emmanuel Macron.
Post by: Baruch on December 02, 2018, 10:40:14 AM
Quote from: SoldierofFortune on December 02, 2018, 10:36:25 AM
Like pr said, it is a planned thing...
according to the renowned strategy centers in the world, big crises await the world between 2019 and 20...
nothing happens and improves indepedent from external factors... ı believe that this has been planned years ago..

There are no conspiracies.  That is conspiracy theory ... bwahaha.  Businessmen never meet, politicians never meet, intellectuals never meet ... to discuss things.  And if they did, not saying that they do, then their intentions would only be how to improve the common good.  St Soros says so.
Title: Re: Thank you, Emmanuel Macron.
Post by: Baruch on December 02, 2018, 10:42:24 AM
Quote from: drunkenshoe on December 02, 2018, 09:32:14 AM
You wish, it wouldn't happen. It will happen and people will pay for it dearly. It will ruin a lot of lives in this or that way.

And then people like you will blame everything & everyone, but the liars and sharlatans that caused this mess.

Let's see ... liars and charlatans?  You mean ... every elected politician, and the EU favorite, unelected ubermenschen in Brussels?
Title: Re: Thank you, Emmanuel Macron.
Post by: drunkenshoe on December 02, 2018, 11:13:32 AM
Quote from: pr126 on December 02, 2018, 10:25:57 AM
I have voted to leave the EU.
I don't want to be ruled by a group of unelected, answerable to nobody globalist.

But why is this an issue for you?

I know you have. My post is clear.
Title: Re: Thank you, Emmanuel Macron.
Post by: drunkenshoe on December 02, 2018, 11:15:10 AM
Baruch, SOF, my tinfol hat is in the other room. Cat is sleeping on it.
Title: Re: Thank you, Emmanuel Macron.
Post by: Baruch on December 02, 2018, 12:55:42 PM
Quote from: drunkenshoe on December 02, 2018, 11:15:10 AM
Baruch, SOF, my tinfol hat is in the other room. Cat is sleeping on it.

From your avatar, and given the tinfoil hat, I would suggest that your cat, is at least thinking deep thoughts, not shallow, and being characteristically nonchalant about it.

Yeah, people are what they are.  And that is why history is a "Death Ride" ... original title of John Mosier's revisionist story of the war between Hitler and Stalin.  Which is the definitive event of the mid-20th century.
Title: Re: Thank you, Emmanuel Macron.
Post by: Baruch on December 02, 2018, 01:26:29 PM
Guillotine was only retired in 1977.  It can be brought back.  Riots in France now the worst since 1968.  Time for a new Republic?  (as happened in 1968).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEte_7rmPIY

This could be the fate of the EU leadership, at least in France.
Title: Re: Thank you, Emmanuel Macron.
Post by: SoldierofFortune on December 03, 2018, 04:03:10 PM
Quote from: drunkenshoe on December 02, 2018, 11:15:10 AM
Baruch, SOF, my tinfol hat is in the other room. Cat is sleeping on it.

Belive or not, this is what i believe that works in the world are not random and are progressing according to a time schedule...
The events are triggered...and the decisions had been made decades ago before they were occuring.
Title: Re: Thank you, Emmanuel Macron.
Post by: Baruch on December 03, 2018, 07:40:57 PM
Quote from: SoldierofFortune on December 03, 2018, 04:03:10 PM
Belive or not, this is what i believe that works in the world are not random and are progressing according to a time schedule...
The events are triggered...and the decisions had been made decades ago before they were occuring.

They already admit that the current disturbances in France are a "color revolution" like have been happening the last 10 years.  Evidence already indicates that England special forces/Intel are behind it.  So we can assume that Soros is funding it, as he has funded all coup/revolutions recently.
Title: Re: Thank you, Emmanuel Macron.
Post by: Draconic Aiur on December 03, 2018, 10:49:56 PM
Pr sounds like Drumpf.

"It's a Invasion!"

lel

But seriously I don't worry about migrants or refugees, I worry about religous fnatics.

Islam is a religion of revenge against the west and other shit. The propaganda of making it a peaceful religion and culture are all retarded bs created by pc idiots to broadcast info that they believe will ironically stop ignorance. You are right to worry about this pr, but most refugees and migrants are just normal people who are easily fooled by fanatics.
Title: Re: Thank you, Emmanuel Macron.
Post by: Baruch on December 04, 2018, 01:25:13 AM
Quote from: Draconic Aiur on December 03, 2018, 10:49:56 PM
Pr sounds like Drumpf.

"It's a Invasion!"

lel

But seriously I don't worry about migrants or refugees, I worry about religous fnatics.

Islam is a religion of revenge against the west and other shit. The propaganda of making it a peaceful religion and culture are all retarded bs created by pc idiots to broadcast info that they believe will ironically stop ignorance. You are right to worry about this pr, but most refugees and migrants are just normal people who are easily fooled by fanatics.

Ordinary immigrants and citizens are easily fooled by fanatics.  What shall we do about that?
Title: Re: Thank you, Emmanuel Macron.
Post by: pr126 on December 04, 2018, 08:00:26 AM
Draconic Aiur wrote:

QuoteBut seriously I don't worry about migrants or refugees, I worry about religous fnatics.

1.  Open borders and welfare will break any economy.
2. Most migrants and refugees are also religious fanatics.
3. https://refugeesmigrants.un.org/migration-compact

Title: Re: Thank you, Emmanuel Macron.
Post by: Draconic Aiur on December 04, 2018, 08:15:25 AM
Quote from: Baruch on December 04, 2018, 01:25:13 AM
Ordinary immigrants and citizens are easily fooled by fanatics.  What shall we do about that?

educate people thoroughly without all the bullshit.
Title: Re: Thank you, Emmanuel Macron.
Post by: Draconic Aiur on December 04, 2018, 08:19:36 AM
Quote from: pr126 on December 04, 2018, 08:00:26 AM
Draconic Aiur wrote:

1.  Open borders and welfare will break any economy.
2. Most migrants and refugees are also religious fanatics.
3. https://refugeesmigrants.un.org/migration-compact



1. it would boost an economy if done right.
2.  Wizard's 1st rule.
3. France is done, because they are tards.
Title: Re: Thank you, Emmanuel Macron.
Post by: pr126 on December 04, 2018, 08:45:08 AM
Quote from: Draconic Aiur on December 04, 2018, 08:19:36 AM
1. it would boost an economy .if done right
2.  Wizard's 1st rule.
3. France is done, because they are tards.

"if done right."  No, it is not done right.
Most migrants are uneducated, unemployable. That is the reality.
Also, most are young military age men with no women. What is going to happen? (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-45269764)

(https://www.aljazeera.com/mritems/imagecache/mbdxxlarge/mritems/Images/2018/6/24/46a3eb8c85d5405294892393466980f2_18.jpg)

It is the globalist EU leaders, not the people who open the border. Those French "tards" are now rioting for the last 3 weeks.
Better late than never.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QukuG8ryVEc

If it doesn't affect people personally, it is not a problem. Until it is.


BTW, you want Medicare for all and open borders. Think about this for a moment.


Title: Re: Thank you, Emmanuel Macron.
Post by: Baruch on December 04, 2018, 12:46:40 PM
Quote from: Draconic Aiur on December 04, 2018, 08:15:25 AM
educate people thoroughly without all the bullshit.

People can't be educated.  School of real life ... two by four upside the head, from street theater, coming to a town near you.  Pol Pot was probably right, to condemn literacy ... it only leads to smart asses who can't pick the cotton.
Title: Re: Thank you, Emmanuel Macron.
Post by: pr126 on December 04, 2018, 01:30:35 PM
Why are we responsible and have to pay for the rest of the world?
Why are they uneducated and poor?
Is it by design? Their governments don't want them educated?

Remember the poor and unlettered are easy to control.

Also, then there is the taboo subject of low IQ. 
Which doesn't exist in polite company? It is racist even to speak about it.

So how much will it cost to educate migrants, and to what level? To what aim? Cheap [slave] labor?
Meanwhile how detrimental will be to our society?

Too many inconvenient questions for which we don't want answers.

Title: Re: Thank you, Emmanuel Macron.
Post by: Baruch on December 04, 2018, 07:01:59 PM
Quote from: pr126 on December 04, 2018, 01:30:35 PM
Why are we responsible and have to pay for the rest of the world?
Why are they uneducated and poor?
Is it by design? Their governments don't want them educated?

Remember the poor and unlettered are easy to control.

Also, then there is the taboo subject of low IQ. 
Which doesn't exist in polite company? It is racist even to speak about it.

So how much will it cost to educate migrants, and to what level? To what aim? Cheap [slave] labor?
Meanwhile how detrimental will be to our society?

Too many inconvenient questions for which we don't want answers.

To be poor is virtuous.  Just ask Jesus (says atheists) ;-)
Title: Re: Thank you, Emmanuel Macron.
Post by: Draconic Aiur on December 04, 2018, 08:57:35 PM
Quote from: pr126 on December 04, 2018, 08:45:08 AM
"if done right."  No, it is not done right.
Most migrants are uneducated, unemployable. That is the reality.
Also, most are young military age men with no women. What is going to happen? (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-45269764)

(https://www.aljazeera.com/mritems/imagecache/mbdxxlarge/mritems/Images/2018/6/24/46a3eb8c85d5405294892393466980f2_18.jpg)

It is the globalist EU leaders, not the people who open the border. Those French "tards" are now rioting for the last 3 weeks.
Better late than never.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QukuG8ryVEc

If it doesn't affect people personally, it is not a problem. Until it is.


BTW, you want Medicare for all and open borders. Think about this for a moment.





The fuck you talking about? Migrants come to a country usually to work their asses off for business:money, experience, living areas, the works!
Those young "miltary age" are from poor ass countries looking for where they'll get the next meal.

Rioting isn't doing shit. They need PR and political power.
Title: Re: Thank you, Emmanuel Macron.
Post by: pr126 on December 04, 2018, 11:36:39 PM
Draconic Aiur wrote:
QuoteThe fuck you talking about? Migrants come to a country usually to work their asses off for business:money, experience, living areas, the works!
Those young "miltary age" are from poor ass countries looking for where they'll get the next meal.
Perhaps in America. Not in Europe where there is welfare.

Most refugees to be jobless for years, German minister warns (https://www.ft.com/content/022de0a4-54f4-11e7-9fed-c19e2700005f)

QuoteRioting isn't doing shit. They need PR and political power.

It did help.
The taxes imposed are for paying the keep for the "hard-working migrants" in Europe. But the riots were not just against raising taxes. It was also against globalism.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QukuG8ryVEc
Title: Re: Thank you, Emmanuel Macron.
Post by: pr126 on December 04, 2018, 11:47:07 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOCOHgyx7c0
Title: Re: Thank you, Emmanuel Macron.
Post by: Cavebear on December 05, 2018, 03:55:16 AM
How can "Brexit" be dead if they are actually leaving and the EU agreed to the constructs?
Title: Re: Thank you, Emmanuel Macron.
Post by: pr126 on December 05, 2018, 06:25:22 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on December 05, 2018, 03:55:16 AM
How can "Brexit" be dead if they are actually leaving and the EU agreed to the constructs?
The EU didn’t agree. Not yet.
I
Title: Re: Thank you, Emmanuel Macron.
Post by: Baruch on December 05, 2018, 07:37:14 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on December 05, 2018, 03:55:16 AM
How can "Brexit" be dead if they are actually leaving and the EU agreed to the constructs?

PM May's agreement betrays Brexit.  They are out on paper only, on everything else they are still in.
Title: Re: Thank you, Emmanuel Macron.
Post by: pr126 on December 06, 2018, 07:54:52 AM
Paris Riots, they are chanting in the streets ‘We want Trump’

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KurMi4-ryqg
Title: Re: Thank you, Emmanuel Macron.
Post by: Baruch on December 06, 2018, 10:32:05 AM
Sorry, they can't have Trump.  France has been voting for Soft Communism for over 100 years now, if you don't count the French Revolution.  This is why cucks can't stand up to real men, such as Germans.
Title: Re: Thank you, Emmanuel Macron.
Post by: Munch on December 06, 2018, 10:37:04 AM
Quote from: Baruch on December 06, 2018, 10:32:05 AM
Sorry, they can't have Trump.  France has been voting for Soft Communism for over 100 years now, if you don't count the French Revolution.  This is why cucks can't stand up to real men, such as Germans.

(https://2static1.fjcdn.com/comments/Your+mixing+first+and+second+best+up+my+dude+_d26d8e4ad985fc493eb1b2deee4824c7.jpg)
(https://pm1.narvii.com/6907/4962c4bdbb0ea5a0ed44460bb20a7ac6b9cf298cr1-1536-2039v2_hq.jpg)

Title: Re: Thank you, Emmanuel Macron.
Post by: pr126 on December 06, 2018, 11:04:35 AM
The German ubermensch is extinct. They all died in 1945.
These are the "New Germans":

(http://i.hurimg.com/i/hdn/75/0x0/59c90c5445d2a027e83cf954.jpg)


Title: Re: Thank you, Emmanuel Macron.
Post by: pr126 on December 06, 2018, 11:10:12 AM
Who is Emmanuel Macron?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noR_7BOeU20

He was selected by the globalist. Just like Obama was.
The media  (opinion shapers) made sure they win.
Title: Re: Thank you, Emmanuel Macron.
Post by: Munch on December 06, 2018, 12:17:24 PM
When a pos like him claims being a nationalist is bad while open borders is good, someone like they believes if you are a nationalist, you must automatically be racist and against others coming to join your way of life, so much so that its better to destroy peoples nation in order to make the latter happen.

You can be a nationalist, while having the feeling that your country can let others come to and be part of it.
Title: Re: Thank you, Emmanuel Macron.
Post by: Shiranu on December 06, 2018, 01:11:05 PM
QuoteThe German ubermensch is extinct. They all died in 1945.
These are the "New Germans":

Just to be clear, you aren't implying that Germans were superiour when they were Nazis?
Title: Re: Thank you, Emmanuel Macron.
Post by: pr126 on December 06, 2018, 01:46:10 PM
Quote from: Shiranu on December 06, 2018, 01:11:05 PM
Just to be clear, you aren't implying that Germans were superiour when they were Nazis?
Not me, darling.
They thought of themselves as superior "Aryan"  (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aryan_race)race.

Scroll down to Nazism section.


QuoteThe ideology of Nazism was based upon the conception of the ancient Aryan race being a superior race, holding the highest position in the racial hierarchy and that the Germanic peoples were the most racially pure existing peoples of Aryan stock.[34] The Nazi conception of the Aryan race arose from earlier proponents of a supremacist conception of the race as described by racial theorist figures such as Arthur de Gobineau and Houston Stewart Chamberlain.[35]

Nazi racial theorist Hans F. K. Günther identified the European race as having five subtype races: Nordic, Mediterranean, Dinaric, Alpine, and East Baltic.[36] Günther applied a Nordicist conception that Nordics were the highest in the racial hierarchy amongst these five European subtype races.[36] In his book Rassenkunde des deutschen Volkes (1922) ("Racial Science of the German People"), Günther recognized Germans as being composed of all five European subtypes, but emphasized the strong Nordic heritage amongst Germans.[37] Günther believed Slavic people to be of "Eastern race", one that was separate from Germans and Nordics, and warned about mixing "German blood" with Slavic one.[38] He defined each racial subtype according to general physical appearance and their psychological qualities including their "racial soul" - referring to their emotional traits and religious beliefs, and provided detailed information on their hair, eye, and skin colours, facial structure.[37] He provided photographs of Germans identified as Nordic in places like Baden, Stuttgart, Salzburg, and Schwaben; and provided photographs of Germans he identified as Alpine and Mediterranean types, especially in Vorarlberg, Bavaria, and the Black Forest region of Baden.[37] Adolf Hitler read Rassenkunde des deutschen Volkes, which influenced his racial policy and resulted in Günther's Nazi-backed attainment of a position in the anthropology department at the University of Jena in 1932 where Hitler attended Günther's inaugural lecture.[39]
Title: Re: Thank you, Emmanuel Macron.
Post by: Shiranu on December 06, 2018, 02:36:24 PM
Quote from: pr126 on December 06, 2018, 01:46:10 PM
Not me, darling.
They thought of themselves as superior "Aryan"  (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aryan_race)race.

Scroll down to Nazism section.



I'm well aware of what Nazis thought about themselves, thanks.

That didn't actually address what I said; you aren't implying that the Germans were somehow better (or even comparable) as Nazis than as "leftists", are you? Because the way it is was worded made it seem like you were saying, "At least Nazis didn't like immigrants.".

The only other option that makes sense to me is that you were comparing the two... which I can at least understand where you are coming from with that, even if it's absolutely stupid.
Title: Re: Thank you, Emmanuel Macron.
Post by: Baruch on December 06, 2018, 02:41:28 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPBX47zSktc

You are either a dick, a pussy or an asshole.  If you are a fey gay man, just don't claim to be what you are not.  If you are a manly gay man, well ...

Yeah, lets have gasoline taxes to $10 per gallon, to save the whales ... like Hillary.  It is all about the tax, not about the global climate.

There is a good French solution.  Guillotine all the male French drivers, then bring in strong sub-saharan goat farmers to replace them.  We did that with Obama already.

Bill Clinton was also a hand selected insider, just like Barak Obama.  Both were groomed by the CIA.
Title: Re: Thank you, Emmanuel Macron.
Post by: Baruch on December 06, 2018, 02:51:46 PM
Quote from: Munch on December 06, 2018, 10:37:04 AM
(https://2static1.fjcdn.com/comments/Your+mixing+first+and+second+best+up+my+dude+_d26d8e4ad985fc493eb1b2deee4824c7.jpg)
(https://pm1.narvii.com/6907/4962c4bdbb0ea5a0ed44460bb20a7ac6b9cf298cr1-1536-2039v2_hq.jpg)

Zeus, you get buff defeating the Titans.  Europa didn't get romanced by a bull, just by a man built like a bull ;-)
Title: Re: Thank you, Emmanuel Macron.
Post by: Munch on December 06, 2018, 07:17:57 PM
Quote from: Baruch on December 06, 2018, 02:51:46 PM
Zeus, you get buff defeating the Titans.  Europa didn't get romanced by a bull, just by a man built like a bull ;-)

you really gotta play more online games dude.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQfk5HykiEk
Title: Re: Thank you, Emmanuel Macron.
Post by: Baruch on December 06, 2018, 07:38:14 PM
Yeah, so Odin then.  But does he have to hang himself on the World Tree to gain magic powers?
Title: Re: Thank you, Emmanuel Macron.
Post by: Munch on December 06, 2018, 07:59:12 PM
Quote from: Baruch on December 06, 2018, 07:38:14 PM
Yeah, so Odin then.  But does he have to hang himself on the World Tree to gain magic powers?

alls not about history, religion and politics my friend.
Title: Re: Thank you, Emmanuel Macron.
Post by: pr126 on December 06, 2018, 10:28:18 PM
Quote from: Shiranu on December 06, 2018, 02:36:24 PM
I'm well aware of what Nazis thought about themselves, thanks.

That didn't actually address what I said; you aren't implying that the Germans were somehow better (or even comparable) as Nazis than as "leftists", are you? Because the way it is was worded made it seem like you were saying, "At least Nazis didn't like immigrants.".

The only other option that makes sense to me is that you were comparing the two... which I can at least understand where you are coming from with that, even if it's absolutely stupid.

Shiranu, you are trying to read things that are simply not there.
I can't help that you are interpreting text to suit your mindset.

Your "understanding" is faulty.

And yes, the Nazis, (National Socialist of the German Workers' Party) were leftist.

The label "far right" is a lie perpetuated by the left.
Title: Re: Thank you, Emmanuel Macron.
Post by: Shiranu on December 06, 2018, 10:40:45 PM
QuoteShiranu, you are trying to read things that are simply not there.
I can't help that you are interpreting text to suit your mindset.

I'm not trying to read anything, I'm literally asking you what you meant by it.

QuoteThe label "far right" is a lie perpetuated by the left.

Yes, that's why the far-left flocks to Neo-Nazism and the far-right condemns it utterly.

Oh, wait...


Private property. Anti-union. Economic competition... that hardly sounds very leftist, or socialist, now does it?
Title: Re: Thank you, Emmanuel Macron.
Post by: pr126 on December 07, 2018, 12:24:39 AM
You can think whatever makes you sleep at nights.

/end conversation.
Title: Re: Thank you, Emmanuel Macron.
Post by: Shiranu on December 07, 2018, 01:06:55 AM
Quote from: pr126 on December 07, 2018, 12:24:39 AM
You can think whatever makes you sleep at nights.

/end conversation.


You ended the conversation posts ago, by never actually engaging in one. I have asked you several times to clarify what you meant, and you just ramble on about something else instead of answering the question.

That is not a conversation, which is something at this point I think you are utterly incapable of even having. That's all you ever do; when ever anyone asks you anything, you just post some random ass youtube video or change the subject and act all smug.
Title: Re: Thank you, Emmanuel Macron.
Post by: pr126 on December 07, 2018, 01:10:23 AM
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Title: Re: Thank you, Emmanuel Macron.
Post by: Baruch on December 07, 2018, 01:51:21 AM
Anyone not Hillary is Hitler ... proof?  Both names begin with H.
Title: Re: Thank you, Emmanuel Macron.
Post by: Shiranu on December 07, 2018, 03:33:45 AM
Fine
Quote from: pr126 on December 07, 2018, 01:10:23 AM
.

Fine, let's ignore what you said then.

My ancestors faced the exact same anti-immigrant rhetoric you use; that we were criminals, that we were religious fanatics, that we were poor young men coming to destroy your culture... and during WW2, that we were potentially enemy combatants of the "others".

One of the largest lynchings in American history was of my mother's people, Italian Americans. Across the United States, and I have been to several of them, there were "internment" (concentration) camps where German Americans were treated horribly, as my dad's family avoided by changing their last name and forcing their children to forget their mother tongue. There were Italian Americans executed by the state for, essentially, being Italian American... all because of rhetoric that we were radicals.

When you use this rhetoric, I can look back on my own family history and see the destructive influence it has. I can see how my mom's family turned to the mafiosos because the government intentionally kept us poor and uneducated in an attempt to get us to leave.

No games, no fucking "got you"... I honestly want to know pr, why should someone from my background buy into your rhetoric when I have seen first hand, when I am a product of, the destructive side of the rhetoric you spew?

If I disagree with why I should agree with you, I promise I won't even argue against other than just saying I disagree with you. I just legitimately want to know why I should accept this rhetoric. Why should I believe that this rhetoric won't end up the exact same for the people you use it against as it ended up for my ancestors?
Title: Re: Thank you, Emmanuel Macron.
Post by: pr126 on December 07, 2018, 03:55:29 AM
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Title: Re: Thank you, Emmanuel Macron.
Post by: Shiranu on December 07, 2018, 04:11:39 AM
Quote from: pr126 on December 07, 2018, 03:55:29 AM
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I see.

So in short, you don't actually have any rational behind anything you say, it is all just an appeal to emotion and as soon as you are confronted with actually explaining your position you find yourself unable to do so.

Fair enough. I respect your honesty in admitting that, even if I disagree with it.
Title: Re: Thank you, Emmanuel Macron.
Post by: Munch on December 07, 2018, 04:14:08 AM
Right this is starting to makes sense now.

Even though you've never really been though any negative association of migration yourself, you've been raised on it growing up by your piers.

But here's the thing. The american-italian groups that migrated to america are not the same kinds of people as those currently forcing their way into Europe or Mexicans flooding into american borders. In the times of the Italian migration, the people who came over actually ended up working, true they took crap jobs, but there wasn't a system of welfare at the time as their are in richer countries today.

When you have millions of people coming to a country, who aren't prepared to work and contribute to the society they migrated to, instead taking benefits from the country, that starts to have an impact of the people of that country on the ground level, leading to government taxing more, less focus on services for infrastructure, and stability, which is also needed in order to support those like the migrants that moved there.

I mean not being funny here, but your ancestors sacrificed everything for a better life elsewhere, went though the hardship of that migration, worked hard clearly so their children would have a better life, and here you are today, at a computer, going to uni, probably with a Starbucks by you, all because your piers got your family to that point.
Title: Re: Thank you, Emmanuel Macron.
Post by: pr126 on December 07, 2018, 04:36:13 AM
@ Shiranu

PM for you.
Title: Re: Thank you, Emmanuel Macron.
Post by: Shiranu on December 07, 2018, 04:59:10 AM
Quote from: pr126 on December 07, 2018, 04:36:13 AM
@ Shiranu

PM for you.

Since I've been blocked from pming in response...

Fair enough, and I appreciate you posting it there. For all our differences, I do want you to know I don't hold much against you personally.

I won't ignore your posts that I feel are spreading complete misinformation and will call them out when I see them, but I will do my best to not try to drag them into a shit-throwing competition as they tend to be and will also try not to respond to anything I disagree with if I cant back up with evidence as to why I think it's wrong, if that seems fair enough to you.


My preference was to post that in pm, but since I cant I do want you to know that's why I will continue to respond... even if it's in a much more limited role than before.
Title: Re: Thank you, Emmanuel Macron.
Post by: pr126 on December 07, 2018, 05:25:58 AM
Quote from: Shiranu on December 07, 2018, 04:59:10 AM
Since I've been blocked from pming in response...

Fair enough, and I appreciate you posting it there. For all our differences, I do want you to know I don't hold much against you personally.

I won't ignore your posts that I feel are spreading complete misinformation and will call them out when I see them, but I will do my best to not try to drag them into a shit-throwing competition as they tend to be and will also try not to respond to anything I disagree with if I cant back up with evidence as to why I think it's wrong, if that seems fair enough to you.


My preference was to post that in pm, but since I cant I do want you to know that's why I will continue to respond... even if it's in a much more limited role than before.
Noted.
Title: Re: Thank you, Emmanuel Macron.
Post by: Munch on December 07, 2018, 07:10:20 AM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RJxVCsWzRx8
Title: Re: Thank you, Emmanuel Macron.
Post by: Baruch on December 07, 2018, 07:28:26 AM
Arc de Triomphe still covered in graffiti this morning: ‘We’ve chopped off heads for less than this’ , ‘Topple the Bougeoisie’ , ‘May 1968 December 2018’

Vote of no-confidence on Macron, on Monday.

PS ... Shiranu ... did you know your great White hope, Beto, is married to the daughter of a billionaire?  Not very woke.  Called a "White Obama" by his supporters.  That doesn't sound too promising.
Title: Re: Thank you, Emmanuel Macron.
Post by: Baruch on December 07, 2018, 08:36:21 PM
Saturday should be interesting in France.  King Macron is getting ready to use tanks against his own people ;-(  The people can't get rid of the European upper class, soon enough.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IyRN-LrWsM

Most of these have strong CIA connection or Rothschild connection.  The chair of the Fed, with Carlyle Group ... you have to realize that is a Bush-Clinton connected CIA money laundering operation.
Title: Re: Thank you, Emmanuel Macron.
Post by: Baruch on December 08, 2018, 11:32:07 PM
The Ancient Regime ... was canonized by Versailles and King Louis XIV.  This is long, but you can see JFK and Bill Clinton in this, as sexual predators ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4WOR5u6n9Q&list=PL72jhKwankOiQnZ22f-5V-GcOsEq-JSuc&index=29
Title: Re: Thank you, Emmanuel Macron.
Post by: pr126 on December 09, 2018, 12:42:39 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EHIcpSxdv4
Title: Re: Thank you, Emmanuel Macron.
Post by: Cavebear on December 09, 2018, 02:26:46 AM
Quote from: Munch on December 06, 2018, 10:37:04 AM
(https://2static1.fjcdn.com/comments/Your+mixing+first+and+second+best+up+my+dude+_d26d8e4ad985fc493eb1b2deee4824c7.jpg)
(https://pm1.narvii.com/6907/4962c4bdbb0ea5a0ed44460bb20a7ac6b9cf298cr1-1536-2039v2_hq.jpg)

Impressive.  Is that Odin or is that Thor?
Title: Re: Thank you, Emmanuel Macron.
Post by: Baruch on December 09, 2018, 07:20:37 AM
Neither ... you have to catch an earlier post ... it is from a video game, but it does match Odin pretty well.  But only on Wednesdays.
Title: Re: Thank you, Emmanuel Macron.
Post by: Cavebear on December 09, 2018, 07:30:49 AM
Quote from: Baruch on December 09, 2018, 07:20:37 AM
Neither ... you have to catch an earlier post ... it is from a video game, but it does match Odin pretty well.  But only on Wednesdays.

Well, the eye-scar did suggest Odin's sacrifice for the last 3 Doomsday Books, and Woddens Day would be appropriate to post this, but I didn't want to wait that long, and Odin didn't have Thor's physique like that. 

Details, details.  Meh!
Title: Re: Thank you, Emmanuel Macron.
Post by: Baruch on December 09, 2018, 10:56:25 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on December 09, 2018, 07:30:49 AM
Well, the eye-scar did suggest Odin's sacrifice for the last 3 Doomsday Books, and Woddens Day would be appropriate to post this, but I didn't want to wait that long, and Odin didn't have Thor's physique like that. 

Details, details.  Meh!

Yeah, the video game designer did steal some ideas.  Munch loves that video game, for some unknown reason ...

Do you think that there were Greeks who loved statues of ripped Heracles?  Or maybe the sculptor ... a gay Pygmalion?  Munch might have volunteered to carve the Herms.
Title: Re: Thank you, Emmanuel Macron.
Post by: Cavebear on December 18, 2018, 06:58:15 AM
Quote from: Baruch on December 09, 2018, 10:56:25 AM
Yeah, the video game designer did steal some ideas.  Munch loves that video game, for some unknown reason ...

Do you think that there were Greeks who loved statues of ripped Heracles?  Or maybe the sculptor ... a gay Pygmalion?  Munch might have volunteered to carve the Herms.

Well, for all WE know, Munch is a 300 pound guy sitting on a cot in his (or hers) parents' basement watching gayvid.com and MUNCHing on chips smothered in mayo...
Title: Re: Thank you, Emmanuel Macron.
Post by: Munch on December 18, 2018, 07:15:59 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on December 18, 2018, 06:58:15 AM
Well, for all WE know, Munch is a 300 pound guy sitting on a cot in his (or hers) parents' basement watching gayvid.com and MUNCHing on chips smothered in mayo...

Houses rarely have basements in the UK, that's more an American thing for most houses.
Never heard of gayvid so must have been done you know about.
Also chips with mayo.. ugh.. what the hell, who's ever eat that.
And I revealed my face so dunno where the gender confusion comes from.
My mother's a 75 year old who requires help to do things day to day, and my brother has his own family which leaves it to me to handle.

I'll give you this, I do have a weight problem due to my diabeties and making changes to it to slowly lose weight over time.

That about cover it?
Title: Re: Thank you, Emmanuel Macron.
Post by: Cavebear on December 18, 2018, 07:52:47 AM
Quote from: Munch on December 18, 2018, 07:15:59 AM
Houses rarely have basements in the UK, that's more an American thing for most houses.
Never heard of gayvid so must have been done you know about.
Also chips with mayo.. ugh.. what the hell, who's ever eat that.
And I revealed my face so dunno where the gender confusion comes from.
My mother's a 75 year old who requires help to do things day to day, and my brother has his own family which leaves it to me to handle.

I'll give you this, I do have a weight problem due to my diabeties and making changes to it to slowly lose weight over time.


That about cover it?

I was being hypothetical, but I do appreciate the honesty.  We all want a chance to explain about our lives, don't we?

gayvid.com was a bit of a joke, but after you asked I searched it.  There IS gayvid.net.  And lots more that I found.  *I* sure didn't know...

BTW, chips with mayo is a Belgian thing and I've tried it.  Quite good.

Spend a couple years helping elder Dad; I know bout that.  Good on you!
Title: Re: Thank you, Emmanuel Macron.
Post by: Munch on December 18, 2018, 11:20:50 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on December 18, 2018, 07:52:47 AM
I was being hypothetical, but I do appreciate the honesty.  We all want a chance to explain about our lives, don't we?

gayvid.com was a bit of a joke, but after you asked I searched it.  There IS gayvid.net.  And lots more that I found.  *I* sure didn't know...

BTW, chips with mayo is a Belgian thing and I've tried it.  Quite good.

Spend a couple years helping elder Dad; I know bout that.  Good on you!

see, we're both human end of the day.

just to clarify though, when you say chips, you mean chips as in the british version crisps, or chips as fries?
Title: Re: Thank you, Emmanuel Macron.
Post by: Baruch on December 18, 2018, 12:52:47 PM
Quote from: Munch on December 18, 2018, 11:20:50 AM
see, we're both human end of the day.

just to clarify though, when you say chips, you mean chips as in the british version crisps, or chips as fries?

Not a true Scotsman = not a true Mayo?  Most people in the US don't eat real Mayo, it is a kind of salad dressing.
Title: Re: Thank you, Emmanuel Macron.
Post by: Munch on December 18, 2018, 04:08:43 PM
Quote from: Baruch on December 18, 2018, 12:52:47 PM
Not a true Scotsman = not a true Mayo?  Most people in the US don't eat real Mayo, it is a kind of salad dressing.

huh. maybe thats why the idea of it sounded disgusting given mayo here.
Title: Re: Thank you, Emmanuel Macron.
Post by: Cavebear on December 21, 2018, 04:14:55 AM
Quote from: Munch on December 18, 2018, 11:20:50 AM
see, we're both human end of the day.

just to clarify though, when you say chips, you mean chips as in the british version crisps, or chips as fries?

I make both.  Depends on my mood and how thinly I feel like cutting a potato.

I will say that my favorite way of having potatoes lately is 1/2" cut lengthwise, tossed in olive oil/salt/crushed garlic, and baked on a pan for 13 minutes at 500F.