https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHdRqaXVqHA
Yep!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XgdtHewGR0
Must be nice being Warren Buffet or George Soros ... until they are burning in Hell ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Aid-4q8s7o
they don't serve Ds or Rs anything nice, in Hell.
What we have here is corporate socialism, but the right-wing meme machine is just fine with that:
QuoteBetween 2007 and 2012, 200 of America’s most politically active corporations spent a combined $5.8 billion on federal lobbying and campaign contributions. A year-long analysis by the Sunlight Foundation suggests, however, that what they gave pales compared to what those same corporations got: $4.4 trillion in federal business and support.
That figure, more than the $4.3 trillion the federal government paid the nation’s 50 million Social Security recipients over the same period, is the result of an unprecedented effort to quantify the less-examined side of the campaign finance equation: Do political donors get something in return for what they give?
Fixed Fortunes: Biggest corporate political interests spend billions, get trillions (https://sunlightfoundation.com/2014/11/17/fixed-fortunes-biggest-corporate-political-interests-spend-billions-get-trillions/)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEeG7I7S30Y
This seems like as good of time to ask as any, while we are talking about "socialists"...
Pol Pot is normally held up as one of the pinnacle failures of socialism, and yet the violence of the Khmer Rouge was funded for and armed by Western powers who feared Vietnam's Communist party (and thus the Soviets) gaining too much power in the region.
Do "conservatives" (and I use that word very loosely because far-right ideologues only care about regressive-conservative social policy and nothing else that could be called conservative) realise every time they bring up Pol Pot as the "enemy", they are in truth bringing up one of the most violent and inhumane regimes that ever existed that was supported by their idols and their ideology?
Back on topic though... I know pr loves short little pictures without any commentary, so maybe this will get to him.
That awkward moment when, by today's standards, America's greatest president would be considered a "Democratic Socialist"...
(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/d5/f4/69/d5f469ac4c144dd533bf3156c0907910--democratic-socialist--election.jpg)
(http://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-we-are-a-nation-of-many-nationalities-many-races-many-religions-bound-together-by-a-franklin-d-roosevelt-59-32-49.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/dd/b3/4a/ddb34afc1fcad49db201546f8ae2b616.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/cc/74/43/cc7443447ab5e2627eddd4385b7f28fd.jpg)
(http://quotesnew.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/17-best-images-about-franklin-d-roosevelt-quotes-on-pinterest-626412.jpg)
Quote from: Shiranu on July 14, 2018, 10:01:01 PM
This seems like as good of time to ask as any, while we are talking about "socialists"...
Pol Pot is normally held up as one of the pinnacle failures of socialism, and yet the violence of the Khmer Rouge was funded for and armed by Western powers who feared Vietnam's Communist party (and thus the Soviets) gaining too much power in the region.
Do "conservatives" (and I use that word very loosely because far-right ideologues only care about regressive-conservative social policy and nothing else that could be called conservative) realise every time they bring up Pol Pot as the "enemy", they are in truth bringing up one of the most violent and inhumane regimes that ever existed that was supported by their idols and their ideology?
Every person who tried to kill European Americans, going back to Roanoke Island ... aren't they your heroes? Pol Pot mostly killed Cambodians. He was pure communist, too communist even for the Vietnamese, who had to invade Cambodia, to kick him out. You can go communist, but never go full communist.
Are you sure you wouldn't have been out there, flying with the Japanese, against Pearl Harbor ... given the chance? After all, FDR was rich.
UN = League of Nations = POS.
Quote from: Baruch on July 14, 2018, 10:46:25 PM
Every person who tried to kill European Americans, going back to Roanoke Island ... aren't they your heroes? Pol Pot mostly killed Cambodians. He was pure communist, too communist even for the Vietnamese, who had to invade Cambodia, to kick him out. You can go communist, but never go full communist.
Are you sure you wouldn't have been out there, flying with the Japanese, against Pearl Harbor ... given the chance? After all, FDR was rich.
UN = League of Nations = POS.
I have often thought that if the insanely communist N. Viets invaded Cambodia because Pol Pot was "too insane" he must have been AWESOMELY "strong and powerful". Trump would have LOVED him!
Quote from: Cavebear on July 21, 2018, 01:49:46 PM
I have often thought that if the insanely communist N. Viets invaded Cambodia because Pol Pot was "too insane" he must have been AWESOMELY "strong and powerful". Trump would have LOVED him!
Yes, reality TV or celebrity TV in 1975 before its time. Genocide For A Day ... TV show. Obama should be shown, with Hillary, sticking a sword up Gaddafi's ass ... again and again ...
Quote from: Baruch on July 21, 2018, 02:01:47 PM
Yes, reality TV or celebrity TV in 1975 before its time. Genocide For A Day ... TV show. Obama should be shown, with Hillary, sticking a sword up Gaddafi's ass ... again and again ...
Just want to point out that as usula, your response has utterly nothing to do with the post to which you are replying. Why do you do that when you have nothing relevant to say? Is it the post-count or the love of seeing your words on the screen? I've never quite understood that.
Quote from: Cavebear on July 21, 2018, 02:09:48 PM
Just want to point out that as usula, your response has utterly nothing to do with the post to which you are replying. Why do you do that when you have nothing relevant to say? Is it the post-count or the love of seeing your words on the screen? I've never quite understood that.
Context. If only direct to original post replies were permitted ... both of us would be banned. I respond to the latest joke or idiocy by other people. Target rich environment when you are posting ;-)
Quote from: Baruch on July 21, 2018, 02:37:56 PM
Context. If only direct to original post replies were permitted ... both of us would be banned. I respond to the latest joke or idiocy by other people. Target rich environment when you are posting ;-)
You were just a jokester before I arrived. But I do get your point. When I was the alternate player at the bottom on the high school golf team, I played the same on the other team. If he played badly, I played barely less badly. If he played well, I played just enough better. Sometimes we all need a challenge...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3fc2DyVdQ0
But but ... it is all because the CIA is all powerful. But but ... it is because Chavez and Maduro did socialism all wrong (but does that excuse the perpetual basket cases elsewhere in S America)?
Red Cortez was asked ... "where will you find the money to pay for all these social programs?" and she responded "we will figure that out later". Typical politician. Yes, I know exactly where you intend to get your funds ... become the ANC of N America.
This is what happens when you put intellectuals (Plato's Guardians) in charge ... aka revolutionary cadre ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4yFxUdBy80
Plato was lucky he only got off with imprisonment in Syracuse for inciting this kind of shit. Czar Nicholas, and King Louis before him ... should have genocided their opponents (aka college students) when they had the chance. This is what the SDS tried to push for in the US in the 1960s.
GB should unleash the Daleks ...
Alexandria Ocasio Cortez has a delusion of competence. She is having her 15 minutes of fame.
The Dems are desperate for the midterms. It won't work.
Quote from: pr126 on July 28, 2018, 02:14:08 PM
Alexandria Ocasio Cortez has a delusion of competence. She is having her 15 minutes of fame.
The Dems are desperate for the midterms. It won't work.
Delusion of competence. Hm. Where have I heard that before? Wait, I know!
(https://s3.amazonaws.com/static.politifact.com/politifact/photos/AP_18203852424849.jpg)
Trump is very competent. He's a very entertaining clown, good at entertaining, and creating delightful discord.
Quote from: Munch on July 28, 2018, 03:15:31 PM
Trump is very competent. He's a very entertaining clown, good at entertaining, and creating delightful discord.
From this side of the pond, I would call him "spooky."
I don't think anyone will find Trump "delightful" after he's destroyed America's economy. That's what "America first" really means - first America's economy goes down the tubes, and then it will be Europe's turn.
Quote from: SGOS on July 28, 2018, 03:20:32 PM
From this side of the pond, I would call him "spooky."
Hmm, dunno if I'd see him like that, theres been creepier politicians. Ted Cruz gives me the creeps, as does Justin Trudeau, I don't trust him and suspect he has a factory somewhere he transfers his mind into a fresh clone every 28 days.
Quote from: pr126 on July 28, 2018, 02:14:08 PM
Alexandria Ocasio Cortez has a delusion of competence. She is having her 15 minutes of fame.
The Dems are desperate for the midterms. It won't work.
Yes, so desperate they have to spread lies, at great expense, on the internet about how all the Republicans are leaving their own party...
Oh, wait.
Quote from: pr126 on July 28, 2018, 02:14:08 PMShe is having her 15 minutes of fame.
The Dems are desperate for the midterms. It won't work.
I want to keep track of how many predictions Nostradamus over here gets right and how many he gets wrong. My guess is the results will not be particularly flattering. Perhaps if I get really bored one day, I'll do just that.
https://www.quietlunch.com/the-character-assassination-of-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/ (https://www.quietlunch.com/the-character-assassination-of-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/)
QuoteHere are the facts regarding her history of residence: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez was born and raised in the Parkchester area of the Bronx until the age of five. Then in search of better schooling, her parents, a Bronxite father and Puerto Rican immigrant mother, moved and she lived in Yorktown Heights. She lived there until she was a high school senior and left to attend college in Boston. After four years at Boston University, she graduated and moved back to the Bronx.
Let us review even further, shall we? Ocasio-Cortez will be 29 years old in October. Referencing the aforementioned history of residence above, she spent twelve years in the Bronx, thirteen years in Yorktown Heights and four years in Boston. Her father, an architect, and her mother, a custodial worker, moved to Yorktown Heights in search of better schooling. There she excelledâ€"she won second place globally in Microbiology at the Intel International Science and Engineering Fairâ€"and was able to get into a decent college. During her sophomore year of college, her father passed away from cancer. Right after graduating, Ocasio-Cortez returned to Bronx where she worked two jobs, to help fill the financial void her father left and co-founded a children’s book publishing company. She also worked as a campaign organizer for Bernie Sanders.
I certainly see why you fear her so much, pr; a brown, working class woman who busted her ass off to get to where she is must really grind your gears. And then that she has the nerve to advocate things like improving the education system and making it affordable for all, ending for-profit prison programs, getting lobbying out of the election and system and... *gasp*... believing that everyone, regardless of what colour their skin is or what is between their legs should be treated equally...
Frankly, I am surprised you haven't had a mental breakdown knowing that she exists. I know Fox sure did, considering this is what they are attacking her for...
(https://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Alexandria-Ocasio-Cortez-platform-4.jpg)
Quote from: Shiranu on July 28, 2018, 05:53:53 PM
(https://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Alexandria-Ocasio-Cortez-platform-4.jpg)
That pic is hilarious. Faux News must be really out of touch to think that her platform is scary. If anything, that only endears her to non-redcap America.
If Faux hadn't mentioned her platform at all, they probably could've fearmongered more successfully about her. They made the most self-damaging choice possible out of all their options. Go figure.
Quote from: Hydra009 on July 28, 2018, 06:01:23 PM
That pic is hilarious. Faux News must be really out of touch to think that her platform is scary. If anything, that only endears her to non-redcap America.
If Faux hadn't mentioned her platform at all, they probably could've fearmongered more successfully about her. They made the most self-damaging choice possible out of all their options. Go figure.
Oh, I just remember this! I can't remember if it has been shared on here or not. She worded it even worse in her article, but here she is on Fox saying the same thing...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFSFHTDazkM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFSFHTDazkM)
QuoteI was listening to them talk, to Ocasio-Cortez... and... they talk about things that everybody wants, especially if you are a parent; they talk about education for your kids, healthcare for your kids, these things that you want... and if you aren't really paying attention to how they are going to pay for it, or the rest of that, it's easy to fall into that trap and say, 'my kids deserve that.'.
Yes. Horrible trap that, believing that your kids deserve education and healthcare.
It is absolutely insane that this is the number one news source in America, and that is what they talk about.
Edit: So I just watched the video to the end, and the woman says she is from a military family... which means she literally had all her healthcare and some education provided for her as a kid by the government. It was good enough for her, just not good for other people to have it.
Quote from: Munch on July 28, 2018, 03:15:31 PM
Trump is very competent. He's a very entertaining clown, good at entertaining, and creating delightful discord.
I'll have to go ahead and disagree with you on every single point you just made.
Quote from: Mermaid on July 28, 2018, 07:12:29 PM
I'll have to go ahead and disagree with you on every single point you just made.
So you don't think he's a clown then? And you don't think he creates discord?
maybe you just didn't realize it was a word used before the discord app was created, here, lemme fill you in on its original meaning.
Quotediscord
noun
ˈdɪskÉ"Ëd/Submit
1.
disagreement between people.
"a prosperous family who showed no signs of discord"
synonyms: strife, conflict, friction, hostility; More
I think it's the fact you called him competent (he's not), entertaining (he's not), and creating
delightful discord (implying that discord can be delightful).
Maybe you don't understand how adjectives work, here let me fill you in on their meaning.
Quotead·jec·tive
ˈajəktiv/Submit
noun
1. a word or phrase naming an attribute, added to or grammatically related to a noun to modify or describe it.
I would like to think you don't understand how adjectives work rather than intentionally used them just to bait someone into disagreeing with you and then acting like you never used them.
Quote from: Shiranu on July 28, 2018, 07:29:31 PM
I think it's the fact you called him competent (he's not), entertaining (he's not), and creating delightful discord (implying that discord can be delightful).
Maybe you don't understand how adjectives work, here let me fill you in on their meaning.
I would like to think you don't understand how adjectives work rather than intentionally used them just to bait someone into disagreeing with you and then acting like you never used them.
Maybe context fails you but lemme expand on it. He is a competent entertainer, in context to being anything he does is laughable and its hilarious to see the discord and strife he creates from over here, and how people, like yourself, react to it. If he makes someone laugh in his actions and the reacitons it gets, that makes him a competent entertainer and clown.
See how that works? I get it, you don't like any positive pronouns being associated with your version of Hitler, but maybe read more into it next time
Quote from: Hydra009 on July 28, 2018, 05:52:55 PM
I want to keep track of how many predictions Nostradamus over here gets right and how many he gets wrong. My guess is the results will not be particularly flattering. Perhaps if I get really bored one day, I'll do just that.
I'll help you out on that one. He has gotten none of them right so far.
He isn't a clown though, he is the president of the United States. So no, he is not competent. If his job was to amuse... then by all means, I would agree.
As for the rest, if you get your jollies over seeing discord and think it's entertaining... well, all that really reflects is the sadness of your character. Discord by it's very nature is not entertaining, otherwise it would not be discord.
I actually ran into a guy this morning who thinks Trump is "a great businessman." I mentioned his 6 bankruptcies, and how the western banks would no longer loan him any more money so that he had to go to the Russians for his loans, but then I woosed out and just left. I can't deal with idiots in meat-space, I get too worked up.
Quote from: Shiranu on July 28, 2018, 07:47:34 PM
He isn't a clown though, he is the president of the United States. So no, he is not competent. If his job was to amuse... then by all means, I would agree.
right, he got the most powerful position in the land as a job, but he's not competent.
And he is pretty amusing, like seeing how royalists freaked out at how he walked in front of the queen, that was funny.
QuoteAs for the rest, if you get your jollies over seeing discord and think it's entertaining... well, all that really reflects is the sadness of your character. Discord by it's very nature is not entertaining, otherwise it would not be discord.
Cause nobody in the history of anything ever laughed at dark humor.
Quote from: Munch on July 28, 2018, 07:18:09 PM
So you don't think he's a clown then? And you don't think he creates discord?
maybe you just didn't realize it was a word used before the discord app was created, here, lemme fill you in on its original meaning.
Why do you have to talk to me like that?
Quoteright, he got the most powerful position in the land as a job, but he's not competent.
I'm going to give you a chance to think about that statement, realise how dumb it was and retract it while I go work on some sub-basses and drum loops.
Quote from: Unbeliever on July 28, 2018, 07:48:36 PM
I actually ran into a guy this morning who thinks Trump is "a great businessman." I mentioned his 6 bankruptcies, and how the western banks would no longer loan him any more money so that he had to go to the Russians for his loans, but then I woosed out and just left. I can't deal with idiots in meat-space, I get too worked up.
well he probably doesn't need to worry about failed businesses anymore anyway, he's set for life as an ex-president.
Quote from: Shiranu on July 28, 2018, 07:57:40 PM
I'm going to give you a chance to think about that statement, realise how dumb it was and retract it while I go work on some sub-basses and drum loops.
Does that drum as bass help pay the bills? I suppose it could do. Just not as much as being president of the united states.
Trump was competent enough to achieve his goals as president, something your still regretting he achieved today.
Quote from: Mermaid on July 28, 2018, 07:56:38 PM
Why do you have to talk to me like that?
just speaking to you on the same level you do to others.
QuoteDoes that drum as bass help pay the bills?
Franklin Pierce.
QuoteI suppose it could do.
Andrew Jackson.
QuoteJust not as much as being president of the united states.
Chuck Conway - (Kmart).
QuoteTrump was competent enough to achieve his goals as president...
John Scully - (Apple).
Quote... something your still regretting he achieved today.
Sarah Palin.
Neville Chamberlain.
George W. Bush.
William Shockley - CEO, Fairchild Semiconductor, who's disgruntled employees went on to found companies like Intel and AMD. Over 400 independent Silicon Valley companies can be traced back to engineers who left Fairchild, and the estimated worth of those companies is over 2.1 trillion USD.
whats the context to all these? That they were successful, or people you didn't like but got popular or powerful?
Quote from: Munch on July 28, 2018, 08:57:26 PM
whats the context to all these? That they were successful, or people you didn't like but got popular or powerful?
These were all people who reached the top of their respective fields but still filled the spectrum of incompetent, from slightly incompetent to, "Holy shit, how can you actually run a company or country that poorly?"
Being at the top does not make one competent in their field. Trump being president does not make him a competent president.
Quote from: SGOS on July 28, 2018, 03:20:32 PM
From this side of the pond, I would call him "spooky."
The Chinese, our masters, are very impressed with Trump. Not spooky, just high strategy and tactical genius. But only if you read Sun Tzu.
Sorry Shiranu ... nobody here is probably competent at anything (other than Internet shit posting). Go to Comedy Central and do your stuff. Good luck (really). Since you are so more competent than anyone else in history, in business, entertainment, politics etc. Yes, there have been some very competent, or lucky, businesspeople. They trade politicians like baseball cards.
Quote from: Unbeliever on July 28, 2018, 03:22:58 PM
I don't think anyone will find Trump "delightful" after he's destroyed America's economy. That's what "America first" really means - first America's economy goes down the tubes, and then it will be Europe's turn.
So you depend on agricultural subsidies? That is the main sector hurting from the trade war. I don't like the trade war, but it is better than a shooting war.
Quote from: Shiranu on July 28, 2018, 05:10:48 PM
Yes, so desperate they have to spread lies, at great expense, on the internet about how all the Republicans are leaving their own party...
Oh, wait.
Doesn't matter, the Millennials will vote for Pikachu anyway ;-)
The power of the media fuelling the TDS.
The U.S. just recorded 4.1 percent GDP growth after years of stagnation and working people are crediting President. The horror.
You are told by the media 24/7 that Trump is the worst thing ever happened to America.
The media never lies, impartial with no agenda.
And you believe it because that's what you want to hear.
Confirmation bias.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BayHuo26I74
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsAlOzZuAuk
Quote from: pr126 on July 28, 2018, 11:54:13 PMThe U.S. just recorded 4.1 percent GDP growth after years of stagnation and working people are crediting President. The horror.
Highest in nearly 4 years. Remind me, who was President back then? Surely, you'd credit both the current and previous President with their respective GDP growths, right?
BTW, here's the GDP growth rate curve over the past 10 years:
(https://d3fy651gv2fhd3.cloudfront.net/charts/united-states-gdp-growth@2x.png?s=gdp+cqoq&v=201807271311v&d1=20080101&d2=20181231)
Quote from: Hydra009 on July 29, 2018, 12:31:17 AM
Highest in nearly 4 years. Remind me, who was President back then? Surely, you'd credit both the current and previous President with their respective GDP growths, right?
BTW, here's the GDP growth rate curve over the past 10 years:
(https://d3fy651gv2fhd3.cloudfront.net/charts/united-states-gdp-growth@2x.png?s=gdp+cqoq&v=201807271311v&d1=20080101&d2=20181231)
"Surely, you'd credit both the current and previous President with their respective GDP growths, right?"
No.
Quote from: pr126 on July 29, 2018, 01:12:43 AM
"Surely, you'd credit both the current and previous President with their respective GDP growths, right?"
No.
What a shock.
Obama could not achieve this in 8 years what Trump did in one.
What a shock indeed. Or perhaps it was GW Bush's legacy that stunted Obama's efforts?
It is a difference running the economy like a businessman or a career politician.
None of this matters. Trump can NEVER be right. End of discussion.
Because in reality, you do not want him to succeed. Remember Bill Maher about wanting a recession?
It would show that you have been wrong with the Dems all along. The horror.
Now think how the religious feel when you tell him his beliefs are a waste of time.
There are similarities here, as politics is replacing religion.
You even have a revered prophet, Karl Marx.
There will be a few zealots denouncing me as a heretic, it is expected.
The left is well known for tolerance to differing ideas, isn’t that so?
Quote from: pr126 on July 29, 2018, 02:18:30 AM
Obama could not achieve this in 8 years what Trump did in one.
What a shock indeed. Or perhaps it was GW Bush's legacy that stunted Obama's efforts?
It is a difference running the economy like a businessman or a career politician.
None of this matters. Trump can NEVER be right. End of discussion.
Because in reality, you do not want him to succeed. Remember Bill Maher about wanting a recession?
It would show that you have been wrong with the Dems all along. The horror.
Now think how the religious feel when you tell him his beliefs are a waste of time.
There are similarities here, as politics is replacing religion.
You even have a revered prophet, Karl Marx.
There will be a few zealots denouncing me as a heretic, it is expected.
The left is well known for tolerance to differing ideas, isn’t that so?
like religion, politics becomes a state of mind for people to protect themselves with, and for many thinking outside that bubble is scary.
A far leftist can make the claim they believe what they do politically because it is about helping peoples rights and freedoms. but they also use it as an excuse to shit on anyone who doesn't agree with everything they promote.
I frequent tumblr, because no shame for the free porn, but the problem with that is once you sign up to a lot of different pages on it, you really do see there the handle of it being very sjw driven comes into play, like this post today.
(https://78.media.tumblr.com/84cd9e89dc7abd19f18b615f5b18e209/tumblr_p9as0cK0il1qzrc10o1_1280.jpg)
the replies came with stuff like someone having Jon Cena making an Ooh face, while many in the comments agreed with it. This 'cis white male' thing modern sjws still throw around on social media claiming white men are the blame for everything, I compared it to the Jim Crow laws, how one race of people are claiming another is inferior to them.
This is an indoctrinated world view, no different to a religious preacher telling his followers to accuse all gays of sin, or muslims indoctrinated to kill the jews.
social justice warriors are as bad a christian fundamentalists, and yes, the same as right wing fundamentalists. All are indoctrinated groups lead on by others into group think.
Quote from: pr126 on July 29, 2018, 02:18:30 AM
Obama could not achieve this in 8 years what Trump did in one.
What a shock indeed. Or perhaps it was GW Bush's legacy that stunted Obama's efforts?
Hilarious. Trying hard to form-fit the data into your narrative. I suppose that it has to be funny, because otherwise it'd be sad and pitiable.
QuoteIt is a difference running the economy like a businessman or a career politician.
And the jokes just keep on coming.
QuoteNone of this matters. Trump can NEVER be right. End of discussion.
Funny that you should say that, when you're the premier example of someone who's opinion is fixed and no longer in sync with reality.
Quote
Now think how the religious feel when you tell him his beliefs are a waste of time.
Evidentally exactly how you feel when I tell you that you're delusional, impervious to reason, and use obviously hypocritcal arguments.
Much like a religious person, you'll claim persecution and claim that your critic is a devotee of satan/marxs or whatever you need to do to save face and gish gallop to the next argument.
Never once will it dawn on you that there's an error in your thinking, that your holy text isn't, that your tin god is just a small, flawed man unworthy of worship, and that people who disagree with you aren't in league with the devil.
Quote from: Munch on July 29, 2018, 07:59:27 AM
like religion, politics becomes a state of mind for people to protect themselves with, and for many thinking outside that bubble is scary.
A far leftist can make the claim they believe what they do politically because it is about helping peoples rights and freedoms. but they also use it as an excuse to shit on anyone who doesn't agree with everything they promote.
I frequent tumblr, because no shame for the free porn, but the problem with that is once you sign up to a lot of different pages on it, you really do see there the handle of it being very sjw driven comes into play, like this post today.
(https://78.media.tumblr.com/84cd9e89dc7abd19f18b615f5b18e209/tumblr_p9as0cK0il1qzrc10o1_1280.jpg)
the replies came with stuff like someone having Jon Cena making an Ooh face, while many in the comments agreed with it. This 'cis white male' thing modern sjws still throw around on social media claiming white men are the blame for everything, I compared it to the Jim Crow laws, how one race of people are claiming another is inferior to them.
This is an indoctrinated world view, no different to a religious preacher telling his followers to accuse all gays of sin, or muslims indoctrinated to kill the jews.
social justice warriors are as bad a christian fundamentalists, and yes, the same as right wing fundamentalists. All are indoctrinated groups lead on by others into group think.
Kara's tweet is misleading because most of the mass shootings that get massive media attention are done by white boys. I don't know why this is, and maybe I'm wrong. Do white boys have a predisposition to indiscriminately shoot crowds of strangers? I would agree with Kara on her sentiment that some people, even many people, should not have access to guns.
But looking at the one city I am most familiar with, Chicago often has several fatal shootings a weekend sometimes with several victims, including children, and it's not all being done by white boys. These take place mostly in certain neighborhoods, and are not exactly indiscriminant. They are driven by turf, drugs, and specific vendetta, although by-standers are often shot.
The point is, some people should not have access to guns. That's its a white boy thing is mostly driven by perception we get from coverage of mass shootings, which are spectacular, but a small percentage of all shootings that take place on a daily basis.
Hydra009 wrote:QuoteNever once will it dawn on you that there's an error in your thinking, that your holy text isn't, that your tin god is just a small, flawed man unworthy of worship, and that people who disagree with you aren't in league with the devil.
I don't have to think. I let CNN do the thinking for me. The fountain of eternal truth.
Economic Growth Accelerates to 4.1%, Fastest Since 2014 (https://www.theepochtimes.com/economic-growth-accelerates-to-4-1-fastest-since-2014_2606351.html)
Don't count your chickens yet. The GDP, unemployment, and CPI stats are cooked by crooks. Look at Shadowstats if you dare:
http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/gross-domestic-product-charts
Using the same method used before 1985 to calculate GDP, the US has been in recession since 2005, without letup. I would call that a depression, brought on by a long succession of incompetent administrations, starting with LBJ and the Vietnam War. Look at the real unemployment:
http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/unemployment-charts
Looks like a depression to me. Y'all have been taken to the cleaners by grifters.
Keeping up the humor is hard, other than suicidal dark humor, since there is damn little to get a laugh from.
Quote from: pr126 on July 29, 2018, 09:07:45 AM
Hydra009 wrote:
I don't have to think. I let CNN do the thinking for me. The fountain of eternal truth.
Economic Growth Accelerates to 4.1%, Fastest Since 2014 (https://www.theepochtimes.com/economic-growth-accelerates-to-4-1-fastest-since-2014_2606351.html)
It's almost like you have forgotten Obama was president for longer than 2 years...
From the Bureau of Economic Statistics...
(https://cbsnews2.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2018/07/27/52607c66-1756-4d40-adca-85aacc3c08e8/resize/620x/fcfbebedfd95e7994e4f142573f8e31a/gdp-2009-line.png)
It happened 4 (nearly 5) times under Obama, with one 6% growth and one 5% growth coming under his presidency... so a 4.1% is hardly "historic".
"My stats are better than your stats ... no they ain't, yes they are, no they Ain't" ... from Annie Get Your Economist
A series of dementia episodes ...
Clinton derangement syndrome
Bush derangement syndrome
Obama derangement syndrome
Trump derangement syndrome
Is the problem that Americans take too few drugs, or too many??
Quote from: Baruch on July 29, 2018, 09:52:23 AM
Don't count your chickens yet. The GDP, unemployment, and CPI stats are cooked by crooks. Look at Shadowstats if you dare:
http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/gross-domestic-product-charts
Using the same method used before 1985 to calculate GDP, the US has been in recession since 2005, without letup. I would call that a depression, brought on by a long succession of incompetent administrations, starting with LBJ and the Vietnam War. Look at the real unemployment:
http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/unemployment-charts
Looks like a depression to me. Y'all have been taken to the cleaners by grifters.
Keeping up the humor is hard, other than suicidal dark humor, since there is damn little to get a laugh from.
I'm suspect of any data released by the government. I think the first hit was when they were declaring 1% inflation,\ when I knew my expenses were up at least 25%. Even if I was exaggerating in my head, I seriously doubted the government's claim. Then I learned inflation is determined by a sample of basket indicators. Indicators are removed from the basket and replaced by others. The government claims that some indicators are no longer indicative of actual inflation, and have to be replaced.
But who determines this and by what method? Well, the government of course, and think of how they can manipulate the basket to produce the results they want. Recession since 2005? It's probably been longer than that. Or maybe there was a slight uptick in 2005 which became a new baseline.
*Trigger warning for our resident snowflakes*
Warning - This video contains a successful brown woman who busted her ass off talking about helping the working class. May cause severe butthurt and irrational lashing out. You have been warned.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUmIdCClbTE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUmIdCClbTE)
Quote from: Shiranu on July 29, 2018, 10:01:56 AM
It's almost like you have forgotten Obama was president for longer than 2 years...
From the Bureau of Economic Statistics...
Yeah, but didn't Trump himself say something like, "Since I have been president, we have never before seen such unprecedented growth." He would never exaggerate like that. It's just not in his nature.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBQIMbV8E84
Quote from: SGOS on July 29, 2018, 10:07:26 AM
I'm suspect of any data released by the government. I think the first hit was when they were declaring 1% inflation,\ when I knew my expenses were up at least 25%. Even if I was exaggerating in my head, I seriously doubted the government's claim. Then I learned inflation is determined by a sample of basket indicators. Indicators are removed from the basket and replaced by others. The government claims that some indicators are no longer indicative of actual inflation, and have to be replaced.
But who determines this and by what method? Well, the government of course, and think of how they can manipulate the basket to produce the results they want. Recession since 2005? It's probably been longer than that. Or maybe there was a slight uptick in 2005 which became a new baseline.
Shadowstats says that inflation right now in the US is around 10% .. that correlates with my personal experience. Just think in 4 years of school, your dollars will only buy 2/3 as much stuff. Yeah US. Yes, look at the curve, a short uptick in 2005 is exactly correct, any positive growth is a new baseline.
Remember, US inflation doesn't include food or fuel (might as well not include anything other than Pokemon trading cards).
Of course news is negative ... that is what sells. It is the news consumer who is responsible. Monkeys love their doom porn.
That and obsession ... there is more going on each day than what Trump had for breakfast.
Quote from: SGOS on July 29, 2018, 10:12:08 AM
Yeah, but didn't Trump himself say something like, "Since I have been president, we have never before seen such unprecedented growth." He would never exaggerate like that. It's just not in his nature.
True. I know the people who tout taking their sources with grains of salt would have fact checked Trump when he said that as well and not just instantly repeated it and circle-jerk liked each other as they repeated it, so it probably isn't an exaggeration.
(*whispers* - even though in their own link it says it's the 3rd highest growth since 2008, meaning it cant be too unprecedented...)
Quote from: Shiranu on July 29, 2018, 10:18:47 AM
True. I know the people who tout taking their sources with grains of salt would have fact checked Trump when he said that as well and not just instantly repeated it and circle-jerk liked each other as they repeated it, so it probably isn't an exaggeration.
(*whispers* - even though in their own link it says it's the 3rd highest growth since 2008, meaning it cant be too unprecedented...)
Sorry, nobody, including Red Cortez, has any political courage (look what Profiles in Courage got JFK?). It is like military intelligence (self contradiction). Her background isn't underprivileged ... not that I would have held either condition against her.
I check my sources. I read one far-right source and one far-left source, and consider both of them worthless for what is actually going on. I do two fisted doom porn.
I realize, in New Speak, all words are synonyms of each other, but ...
https://www.realclearpolicy.com/articles/2018/07/27/sanders_and_ocasio-cortez_arent_socialists__what_are_they_110732.html
But Red Bernie and Red Cortez are actually socialist like Hitler, not like Stalin aka they are fascist. Just not the same kind of fascism as the oligarchs.
They are dirigisme. Because they favor stealth nationalization, not direct nationalization. As ACA was in fact, dirigisme. Government control something, while not bothering to own it. Aka tyranny. Like Hitler, not Stalin. Or in fact as Mussolini defined "fascism".
There's No Such Thing as 'Democratic Socialism' (https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2018/07/theres_no_such_thing_as_democratic_socialism.html)
QuoteThe new darling of the Democratic Party and the liberal mainstream media is Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, the bright-eyed twenty-something who upended long-time House member Joe Crowley in a New York state Democratic primary a few weeks ago. In their breathless, frenzied rush to anoint Ocasio-Cortez as the coming of the Savior of the Nation, liberals across the land have wholeheartedly embraced her call for “Democratic Socialism.â€
Ignoring the fact that Bernie Sanders espoused essentially the exact same things in the last presidential campaign but was unceremoniously and dishonestly pushed aside by the Democratic Party in favor of Hillary Clinton, what exactly is this “democratic socialism†that seems to have everyone on that side of the fence so atwitter these days?
What Democrats think it is sounds good: income equality, a fair living wage for everyone, plentiful employment opportunities, quality healthcare coverage for all, affordable college education for all who want it, easy access to affordable, quality housing, and a tax system where the so-called rich pay their “fair share.â€
While they’re at it, the Ocasio-Cortez’s of the world would also abolish ICE while ending most immigration restrictions, end what they see as our destructive international interventionism and put a stop to Israel’s occupation and oppression of Palestine. What these last three have to do with either “democracy†or “socialism†is unclear, but there it is anyway.
Democratic like East Germany. Why did Germany elect a chancellor who was born n E Germany? Just being PC?
Quote from: Baruch on July 30, 2018, 12:27:35 PM
Democratic like East Germany. Why did Germany elect a chancellor who was born n E Germany? Just being PC?
She was a member of the Stasi (http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/new-book-suggests-angela-merkel-was-closer-to-communism-than-thought-a-899768.html).
A communist. Best qualified for the job.
QuoteBut former German Transport Minister Günther Krause -- an eastern German politician who worked with her in the final months of the GDR and as a fellow minister in the government ex-chancellor Helmut Kohl in the early 1990s -- contradicts her in the book and says she propagated Marxism-Leninism.
"With Agitation and Propaganda you're responsible for brainwashing in the sense of Marxism," he said. "That was her task and that wasn't cultural work. Agitation and Propaganda, that was the group that was meant to fill people's brains with everything you were supposed to believe in the GDR, with all the ideological tricks. And what annoys me about this woman is simply the fact that she doesn't admit to a closeness to the system in the GDR. From a scientific standpoint she wasn't indispensable at the Academy of Sciences. But she was useful as a pastor's daughter in terms of Marxism-Leninism. And she's denying that. But it's the truth."
Quote from: pr126 on July 30, 2018, 01:28:45 PM
She was a member of the Stasi (http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/new-book-suggests-angela-merkel-was-closer-to-communism-than-thought-a-899768.html).
A communist. Best qualified for the job.
Best qualified to lead unified Germany.
Quote from: Cavebear on August 01, 2018, 04:10:25 AM
Best qualified to lead unified Germany.
Only if you are Putin's poodle.
Democratic Socialism: In the USA that would be good news.
No more obese people. Wouldn't that be nice?
Everyone is looking as trim as Ms. Cortez.
Well, perhaps minus the smile.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/923274881197895680/AbHcStkl_400x400.jpg)
Quote from: pr126 on August 02, 2018, 12:04:36 PM
Democratic Socialism: In the USA that would be good news.
No more obese people. Wouldn't that be nice?
Everyone is looking as trim as Ms. Cortez.
Well, perhaps minus the smile.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/923274881197895680/AbHcStkl_400x400.jpg)
Every tyranny ever ... whippings will continue until morale improves! Everything is forbidden, except for what is mandatory.
Quote from: pr126 on August 02, 2018, 12:04:36 PM
Democratic Socialism: In the USA that would be good news.
No more obese people. Wouldn't that be nice?
Everyone is looking as trim as Ms. Cortez.
Well, perhaps minus the smile.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/923274881197895680/AbHcStkl_400x400.jpg)
Knowing that a successful brown woman gets so under your skin makes me just a little bit giddily, so thank you for that :).
Quote from: Shiranu on August 02, 2018, 07:29:14 PM
Knowing that a successful brown woman gets so under your skin makes me just a little bit giddily, so thank you for that :).
As a fellow "brown", you are just hoping for a hot date with her ;-)
Success is over-rated ... beware pursuing it yourself.
Never forget to mention that all-important melanin content!
Identity politics. Where would we be without it?
But anyway. Here is the Dem party’s new mascot.
By December she will be a nobody again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaVMwp0Itds
I don't like when she makes her face all manic like that. Reminds me of my ex ;-(
Will she be famous for more than 15 minutes? Can Trump become President?
Quote from: Baruch on August 03, 2018, 04:55:14 AM
I don't like when she makes her face all manic like that. Reminds me of my ex ;-(
Will she be famous for more than 15 minutes? Can Trump become President?
This woman, who I know nothing about, will be immortalized by this thread. I haven't watched her yet, because sad to say, I don't care what she has to say. I'm getting so bored with politics, which today centers almost complete around people hating each other. Hate is destructive. Utube is destructive. Twitter is for fools to express their hate. Politics is consumed by anger and viciousness. We are on the wrong track and headed for a crash.
QuoteIdentity politics. Where would we be without it?
Sorry pr but the guy whoms, literally, entire forum identity revolves around identity politics (Muslims, progressives, "Cultural Marxists") cant really cry foul when he gets called on it.
Quote from: SGOS on August 03, 2018, 05:08:06 AM
This woman, who I know nothing about, will be immortalized by this thread. I haven't watched her yet, because sad to say, I don't care what she has to say. I'm getting so bored with politics, which today centers almost complete around people hating each other. Hate is destructive. Utube is destructive. Twitter is for fools to express their hate. Politics is consumed by anger and viciousness. We are on the wrong track and headed for a crash.
I don't know how I feel about this; on the one hand, I do legitimately hate the ideology of pr, Munch, and the far-right.
On the other hand... I have plenty of people in the real world who are against stuff I support yet we get along perfectly civilly. I have met maybe seven or eight far-right idiots in the real world who I just did not like what they have to say and got legitimately pissed off at, and probably about two far-left people who made me feel the same.
I have never met anyone as hateful and toxic as those two in the real world, nor have I been exposed to much hateful or toxic stuff on Youtube or Twitter. I know they exist but I just don't feel like they are as big of deal as people make it out to be... it is really, really easy to ignore.
The only reason I am overly concerned about the far-right is that they have real world power... they have my countries' congress, my countries' president doing what they want, and they have dragged the "left" past center and into the right. If they had the same amount of power as the far-left (that is to say none) then I would give as much of a shit about them as I do something like Antifa... that is to say, absolutely no shits given unless they make the headlines, which has been all of about once or twice.
But that simply isn't the case; I have to be concerned about the far-right because literally every day of my life I live the consequences of letting them have too much power, and I know that those consequences could get much worse than they already are. We are literally one impeachment away from having a Christian Theocrat being president of the United States, for fuck's sake, and Trump wants to be more of a dictator than a president. We have state sanctioned kidnapping and abduction that sends those children to for-profit detention centres that bring in $700-a-day per kid in taxpayer money (in detention centres government officials like Betsy DeVos has stakes in). We have ballooning student debt and medical debt because the right-wing is more concerned about corporate welfare than it's people's welfare, and a raising gap between the working class and the upper class because they are more worried about giving the wealthy tax cuts and loopholes rather than giving the working class living wages or worker rights. We have politicians who want to revoke LGBT rights and politicians who want to deny my mother and my female friends of basic rights, equal treatment or access to health services because they don't have an inch of respect for women.
I see how it's easy to get very cynical of politics, but I think that's exactly what the far-right and the groups that promote this hatred and division want; tune out so they can have free reign to do whatever they want. And I do believe the far-right are just a bunch of puppets for the ultra-rich who have no loyalty to any politics other than the dollar sign, so when I remember that my distaste for them really is more pity than anything else.
Quote from: Shiranu on August 03, 2018, 05:20:38 AM
On the other hand... I have plenty of people in the real world who are against stuff I support yet we get along perfectly civilly. I have met maybe seven or eight far-right idiots in the real world who I just did not like what they have to say and got legitimately pissed off at, and probably about two far-left people who made me feel the same.
There a lots of decent people around, but they aren't represented in politics or the media. Watch politics on television. You are not going to see many normal thinking people like for example, the majority of this forum. They aren't in the news, and they are not very interesting. Among your acquaintances, you won't see many of them shown on TV either. The ones that show up are the ones who can effectively fan the flames of controversy, because they are more interesting to watch, even if they aren't like average people.
Quote from: Shiranu on August 03, 2018, 05:20:38 AM
The only reason I am overly concerned about the far-right is that they have real world power... they have my countries' congress, my countries' president doing what they want, and they have dragged the "left" past center and into the right. If they had the same amount of power as the far-left (that is to say none)...
There are no far left politicians, except in the minds of the right. They are Democrats, and their agenda has little to do what interests most people. They actually work for the wealthy just like the Republicans, so they have little incentive to follow through on the left leaning agendas they advertise, so things move to the right. Democrats don't have as much power in congress. They don't need it, because Republicans do what they want anyway. They do want to hold their jobs, of course, so they may serve at the pleasure of the wealthy. It's probably more rewarding than we imagine.
Quote from: Shiranu on August 03, 2018, 05:20:38 AM
I have to be concerned about the far-right because literally every day of my life I live the consequences of letting them have too much power, and I know that those consequences could get much worse than they already are.
Democrats won't solve that. They don't do much in congress other than occupy seats and rake in money for it.
Quote from: Shiranu on August 03, 2018, 05:20:38 AM
I see how it's easy to get very cynical of politics, but I think that's exactly what the far-right and the groups that promote this hatred and division want;
The current cycle of hate did begin with conservatives, although this is just during my lifetime. I'm sure there have been past cycles too, where I have no idea who started it. Hate seems to be more effective and fruitful for the conservative party. The left uses it too, but to less effect. Their constituents don't buy into it so easily and seem less affected. That's why no left wing news show has been as successful as FOX news.
At one time, I longed for a left media that would be a counterpoint to Rush Limbaugh. Attempts were made, but none worked. The left doesn't get as vengeful and vindictive by that kind of sales pitch. I've come to think that the counterpoint to the ravings of the right is reason, but reason seldom achieves the visceral goal necessary to mobilize movements.
The last time the US mobilized in a bi-partisan way was organized by the extreme right wing and resulted in the invasion of Iraq for reasons that made no sense in retrospect, but the mobilizing spark was fear and anger. It was mostly irrational. The right is either better at generating this kind of response or has easier targets.
NPR is a reasoned response to right wing ravings, but it doesn't rile people, accept the right which has already been conditioned to respond to anything that way, including reason. But NPR is not the counterpoint I once imagined because it doesn't counter hateful spite, with opposing hateful spite. It is most assuredly the counterpoint to raving lunatics, but because it approaches subjects with more thought and doesn't rant, it doesn't seem like the opposite.
Cuban Missile Crisis was real:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYVPx3x3oCg
The assassination of JFK:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUZFsvCmJHE
What some people here have called out against Trump ;-( Used to be when the President spoke, we were called fellow citizens, and when the President addressed the nation, people stopped what they were doing and listened carefully. We didn't know then, as we do now, that Jackie was married to a sex maniac ... as we already knew with Hillary.
Democrat LBJ 1964 campaign TV ad:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDTBnsqxZ3k
If we don't go to Vietnam right now, the Republicans will kill us all. The Soviets will kill us all. Sound familiar? The 1960s are being repeated now, because most people have forgotten or weren't alive then. President Kennedy lied, about the "Russian Missile Gap" during the 1960 campaign (the US was ahead of the Soviet Union), and stuffed ballot boxes in Chicago to get elected. Democrat LBJ gave us Vietnam.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdMLD8b6wWY
Black lives do matter, but this is how it was done in 1965:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elgmMQbOfts
Assassination of MLK:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbOV1xKFOmw
Assassination of Robert Kennedy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXCvJ92YQcU
The violence was bipartisan! The D and R party were both right-wing back then. Except for rhetorical BS. Back then we called Democratic Socialists ... Fellow Travelers.
QuoteDemocrats won't solve that. They don't do much in congress other than occupy seats and rake in money for it.
Perhaps. But I do know the Democrat establishment "hates" Ocasio-Cortez and has spent alot of money trying to discredit her, as well as other progressive Democrats like Abdul el-Sayed in Michigan's gubernatorial race, Ben Jealous (youngest director of the NAACP and head of the US Human Rights Program at Amnesty International), Stacey Abrams of Georgia, Beto O'Rourke here in Texas who is running on a grassroot campaign yet raising more money than Ted Cruz's PAC-backed campaign... there are actual progressive candidates running on the Democratic platform trying to change it from within like Bernie did in 2016 and making good progress.
I won't rule anyone out just because they are a Democrat, because many "Democrats" are fighting not just the Republicans but the Dem. establishment as well. Ocasio-Cortez is one of those who's message is a sharp turn from party line and is resonating amongst the working class.
Alexandria is one of only 8 politicians who has refused to take PAC money, and is the only one elected on that platform... and I think that in itself shows that she is serious about her ideals. She has essentially said her vote is not for sell, and moderates on both sides of the isle are giving her respect for that.
I just don't buy that there isn't movement from the actual left in the United States. Progressives have had to latch themselves onto the Democratic party because you have to be one of the two to win, but now that they have done so they get ignored as being "establishment"... even if they have never held office or are running completely contrary to the establishment platform. It's a lose/lose situation if we stay cynical about politics.
But I will agree with you that conservatism is more effective at utilizing hate and fear, and I would say looking at history this is the case not just in your and mine generation but through history as a whole. For every "progressive" hate movement (the French revolution, the Communist revolution, etc.) you have multiple conservative hate movements. That's just the nature of regressive vs progressive ideology.
This is how we were indoctrinated in the 1950s ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvBokz2-XNc
And it was partly true. And prior to WW II, there was a flourishing Left in the US, called Progressives, and Labor Unions ... stemming from the abuses of Victorian industrialism and expansionist imperialism. We still have abusive business practices and expansionist imperialism.
I actually wished for Bernie to do well against Hillary. I actually wished for a decent Republican candidate to run against Bernie in the general election. We got neither. The plutocrats whistle, the DNC and RNC dance. They have all seen the Zapruder film.
Real hippies didn't preach hate however, they weren't even politically involved, because they saw it as pointless.
Quote from: Baruch on August 03, 2018, 07:31:43 AM
Used to be when the President spoke, we were called fellow citizens, and when the President addressed the nation, people stopped what they were doing and listened carefully. We didn't know then, as we do now, that Jackie was married to a sex maniac ... as we already knew with Hillary.
Sex in politics was only useful before Trump came along. It's obvious today that few people really care about a politician's sex life, and that's how it should be. What politician fucks what bimbo has no effect on my life, but when he fucks me over, that has an effect. Except with Trump, where we are talking about sexual assault, which fucks others as well. That's a bit different than fucking a bimbo. At least we might hope some Republicans will stop harping on Democrats having sex... or maybe not... probably not Baruch. The right has a oddly hypocritical approach to sex.
Quote from: Baruch on August 03, 2018, 04:55:14 AM
I don't like when she makes her face all manic like that. Reminds me of my ex ;-(
Will she be famous for more than 15 minutes? Can Trump become President?
I think what she needs is a speechwriter and a teleprompter.
Quote from: SGOS on August 03, 2018, 08:05:20 AM
Sex in politics was only useful before Trump came along. It's obvious today that few people really care about a politician's sex life, and that's how it should be. What politician fucks what bimbo has no effect on my life, but when he fucks me over, that has an effect. Except with Trump, where we are talking about sexual assault, which fucks others as well. That's a bit different than fucking a bimbo. At least we might hope some Republicans will stop harping on Democrats having sex... or maybe not... probably not Baruch. The right has a oddly hypocritical approach to sex.
I don't care for politicians at all, even if they are celibate. But naturally bestiality fans will vote for e bestiality candidate etc.
Yes, the Right likes monogamy and straight relationships. Trump isn't Right, he is Maverick.
Quote from: pr126 on August 03, 2018, 12:31:28 PM
I think what she needs is a speechwriter and a teleprompter.
Obama is available ;-)
Quote from: Baruch on August 03, 2018, 12:57:27 PM
Obama is available ;-)
Good choice. But he can only read, not write.
Quote from: pr126 on August 03, 2018, 01:04:40 PM
Good choice. But he can only read, not write.
Obama will fit in well, in Futurama, next to the disembodied head of Nixon. Talking heads have much to talk about.
Quote from: Baruch on August 01, 2018, 08:01:06 PM
Only if you are Putin's poodle.
I seriously doubt that Angela Merklel is Putin's poodle. We already have HIM right here in the US.
Angela Merkel is a globalist. Soros’s podle maybe.
HIM isn’t. Putin isn’t either.
Quote from: pr126 on August 04, 2018, 01:49:51 AM
Angela Merkel is a globalist. Soros’s podle maybe.
HIM isn’t. Putin isn’t either.
Well, DUH, how could Putin be his own poodle, LOL? And Merkel isn't either; she hates him. But Trump is "the poodle" and that is going to come out in the next few months in court.
Quote from: Cavebear on August 04, 2018, 02:00:50 AM
Well, DUH, how could Putin be his own poodle, LOL? And Merkel isn't either; she hates him. But Trump is "the poodle" and that is going to come out in the next few months in court.
No, just to clarify, Merkel is a globalist. Trump and Putin are not globalist.
Quote from: pr126 on August 04, 2018, 02:13:55 AM
Your reply is amazing. Nothing I can object to at all... I bow in admiration at the suuccintness.
Quote from: Cavebear on August 04, 2018, 02:16:33 AM
Your reply is amazing. Nothing I can object to at all... I bow in admiration at the suuccintness.
Thanks. :-)
Quote from: pr126 on August 04, 2018, 02:21:56 AM
Thanks. :-)
Are you aware that your post had no content?
Quote from: Cavebear on August 04, 2018, 01:42:59 AM
I seriously doubt that Angela Merklel is Putin's poodle. We already have HIM right here in the US.
You need to doubt your doubt. Or are you a German troll? I can sympathize with pr126 on several levels, even if I don't share his obsessions, I have my own, thanks.
Yes, Trump may be found guilty of BS before the election. Also BS during the election ... and even BS after the election. But it is all a political trial, and in politics, nothing is actually illegal, just embarrassing. Nixon should have coup de etat and shot all the Democrats in Congress.
(https://www.americanthinker.com/images/bucket/2018-08/208216_5_.jpg)
Socialist a la US politics would have been considered reactionaries in Communist Soviet or China. It is just not the same.
Quote from: Cavebear on August 09, 2018, 04:17:00 AM
Socialist a la US politics would have been considered reactionaries in Communist Soviet or China. It is just not the same.
Equally dead after Special Rendition.
Elizabeth Warren wants socialism. What could go wrong?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nn-3gpjmSPI
Quote from: pr126 on August 17, 2018, 10:43:34 AM
Elizabeth Warren wants socialism. What could go wrong?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nn-3gpjmSPI
A true Laborite. She and Corbin should make babies together ;-)
The mayor of London wants to stop car bombs by banning cars (not Muslims).
Quote from: pr126 on August 17, 2018, 10:43:34 AM
Elizabeth Warren wants socialism. What could go wrong?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nn-3gpjmSPI
Did you notice that not a word she said was broadcast? You saw but did not hear her. All you heard was Fox announcers saying what they said themselves.
SUCKER!
Quote from: Cavebear on August 22, 2018, 06:26:54 AM
Did you notice that not a word she said was broadcast? You saw but did not hear her. All you heard was Fox announcers saying what they said themselves.
SUCKER!
VOTER!