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Title: Trump in the UK
Post by: pr126 on July 13, 2018, 01:18:18 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYd6pN_yI7U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HPshG5IlcI
Title: Re: Trump in the UK
Post by: Unbeliever on July 13, 2018, 01:27:43 PM
Wow, looks like more protesters in Trafalgar Square than were at Chump's inauguration!

And he wasn't "voted in" - he lost the vote, so he was placed in the office by the traitors of the electoral college.
Title: Re: Trump in the UK
Post by: Cavebear on July 13, 2018, 01:37:01 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on July 13, 2018, 01:27:43 PM
Wow, looks like more protesters in Trafalgar Square than were at Chump's inauguration!

And he wasn't "voted in" - he lost the vote, so he was placed in the office by the traitors of the electoral college.

Well, we have to accept the Electoral College.  We have abided by their votes for 200+ years.  And may they all go to work for Frump in perpetual misery...
Title: Re: Trump in the UK
Post by: Unbeliever on July 13, 2018, 01:40:43 PM
I hope they all live long enough to realize how badly they've fucked America - and the world - up.
Title: Re: Trump in the UK
Post by: pr126 on July 13, 2018, 01:44:36 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZ6nF6JKtRc
Title: Re: Trump in the UK
Post by: Cavebear on July 13, 2018, 01:51:23 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on July 13, 2018, 01:40:43 PM
I hope they all live long enough to realize how badly they've fucked America - and the world - up.

It is probably time to go to direct elections...  The original idea of sage white guys sitting around to decide who among many other sage white sage guys should select a sage white guy is really getting too old!

I mean seriously, who would easily be considered worse?  Biden, Clinton, or Trump...?
Title: Re: Trump in the UK
Post by: Hydra009 on July 13, 2018, 01:56:50 PM
Since the electoral college was brought up, I'd like to point out that governments that the US has had a hand in setting up, from Japan to Iraq, lack an electoral college.  One wonders why, but not for very long.
Title: Re: Trump in the UK
Post by: PopeyesPappy on July 13, 2018, 01:57:31 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/mTyVwnH.gif)
Title: Re: Trump in the UK
Post by: Cavebear on July 13, 2018, 02:00:46 PM
Quote from: PopeyesPappy on July 13, 2018, 01:57:31 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/mTyVwnH.gif)
Cheers to the jumpy dog.  But one MIGHT assume some point other than a jumpy dog.  May I ask what it was?
Title: Re: Trump in the UK
Post by: PopeyesPappy on July 13, 2018, 02:45:32 PM
Nothing other than I'm in on the first page of the thread.

I actually like this one better for the effect...

(https://i.imgur.com/tysAuXP.gif)

But the first one was a greyhound (whippet probably) so I used it.
Title: Re: Trump in the UK
Post by: Baruch on July 13, 2018, 07:53:55 PM
Quote from: Cavebear on July 13, 2018, 01:37:01 PM
Well, we have to accept the Electoral College.  We have abided by their votes for 200+ years.  And may they all go to work for Frump in perpetual misery...

I would have liked the Electoral College better, if they voted for military dictatorship.  Better now than later.

Cavebear doesn't like anyone having fun, not even dogs.

I hope all the liberals / laborites dehydrate, from all their lost salty tears ;-))
Title: Re: Trump in the UK
Post by: Munch on July 14, 2018, 08:56:21 AM
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/queen-trump-meeting-uk-visit-royal-walking-bow-curtsy-protocol-a8446376.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LJG7Xv2HP4

My mothers a royalist. When she showed me the pictures here, I just balled with laughter.
Title: Re: Trump in the UK
Post by: Baruch on July 14, 2018, 09:15:31 AM
Americans are lower class, even our billionaires.  Trump is the epitome of this.  But did he give the Queen a hug like Michelle Obama?
Title: Re: Trump in the UK
Post by: Shiranu on July 14, 2018, 09:54:38 AM
America's head statesman, everyone.

Shook the Queens' hand, walked infront of her, met her with his jacket wide open. What a fucking clown.
Title: Re: Trump in the UK
Post by: Munch on July 14, 2018, 10:07:57 AM
Quote from: Shiranu on July 14, 2018, 09:54:38 AM
America's head statesman, everyone.

Shook the Queens' hand, walked infront of her, met her with his jacket wide open. What a fucking clown.

apparently he was 10 minutes late to meeting her too.
Title: Re: Trump in the UK
Post by: Hydra009 on July 14, 2018, 10:58:19 AM
Quote from: Shiranu on July 14, 2018, 09:54:38 AM
America's head statesman, everyone.

Shook the Queens' hand, walked infront of her, met her with his jacket wide open. What a fucking clown.
He's a clown all right.  But out of all the things Trump has done, I'd rate not buttoning up his jacket as very, very small thing in the grand scheme of things.  I wish our Prez making a faux pas overseas was our worst problem right now.
Title: Re: Trump in the UK
Post by: Shiranu on July 14, 2018, 12:15:43 PM
Quote from: Hydra009 on July 14, 2018, 10:58:19 AM
He's a clown all right.  But out of all the things Trump has done, I'd rate not buttoning up his jacket as very, very small thing in the grand scheme of things.  I wish our Prez making a faux pas overseas was our worst problem right now.

He deserves all the criticism he gets, big or small.

Notice I only used the word clown and not "heartless xenophobic bigot, greedy malicious tumor of humanity, obese and moronic nitwit douchebag, braggart of sexual assault, misogyny and infidelity, a pathological liar and pathetically obsessed with how people perceive him, a racist Nazi defending ass-hat who is fundamentally undermining the core pillars of western democracy and is diametrically opposed to what we as a first world society hold as moral or just."

Sometimes it's nice to just enjoy the small things, and laugh at what a buffoon he is. It's a Saturday, let's save the fascism for the weekdays.
Title: Re: Trump in the UK
Post by: Baruch on July 14, 2018, 12:16:28 PM
Quote from: Hydra009 on July 14, 2018, 10:58:19 AM
He's a clown all right.  But out of all the things Trump has done, I'd rate not buttoning up his jacket as very, very small thing in the grand scheme of things.  I wish our Prez making a faux pas overseas was our worst problem right now.

Sad ... when the American Communists can't find anything better to criticize.  How can they help Putin out at the conference next week?
Title: Re: Trump in the UK
Post by: Baruch on July 14, 2018, 12:17:59 PM
Quote from: Shiranu on July 14, 2018, 09:54:38 AM
America's head statesman, everyone.

Shook the Queens' hand, walked infront of her, met her with his jacket wide open. What a fucking clown.

He should have shagged her in public, like a good Mongol savage ... that is what the Liberals think we are. (sarc).  But only after he drinks PM May's blood from her own skull.  Brits respect manliness like that.
Title: Re: Trump in the UK
Post by: Baruch on July 14, 2018, 12:19:17 PM
Quote from: Munch on July 14, 2018, 10:07:57 AM
apparently he was 10 minutes late to meeting her too.

Better than being late you your own funeral ;-)

Sorry, no need to respect any European any more.  Putin, Putin, he's our man, if he can't rape Europe, nobody can!  Will Putin first grab Merkel's pussy, or Macron's ;-))
Title: Re: Trump in the UK
Post by: Unbeliever on July 14, 2018, 01:29:56 PM
Quote from: Shiranu on July 14, 2018, 12:15:43 PM
He deserves all the criticism he gets, big or small.

Notice I only used the word clown and not "heartless xenophobic bigot, greedy malicious tumor of humanity, obese and moronic nitwit douchebag, braggart of sexual assault, misogyny and infidelity, a pathological liar and pathetically obsessed with how people perceive him, a racist Nazi defending ass-hat who is fundamentally undermining the core pillars of western democracy and is diametrically opposed to what we as a first world society hold as moral or just."

Sometimes it's nice to just enjoy the small things, and laugh at what a buffoon he is. It's a Saturday, let's save the fascism for the weekdays.
For some reason, Trump reminds me of Dawkins's view of the God of the OT:

“...jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.”

He hasn't yet (as far as I know) committed infanticide, genocide or ethnic cleansing - but just wait, he isn't finished yet...
Title: Re: Trump in the UK
Post by: Jason78 on July 14, 2018, 08:35:21 PM
There's more people at that protest than there was at his inauguration.
Title: Re: Trump in the UK
Post by: Hydra009 on July 14, 2018, 08:46:20 PM
Quote from: Jason78 on July 14, 2018, 08:35:21 PM
There's more people at that protest than there was at his inauguration.
Trump the next day:  "They love me in England.  I heard some people say that over 8 billion people attended my speech.  Amazing!  Take that, Hillary!"
Title: Re: Trump in the UK
Post by: Munch on July 14, 2018, 09:04:53 PM
Quote from: Hydra009 on July 14, 2018, 08:46:20 PM
Trump the next day:  "They love me in England.  I heard some people say that over 8 billion people attended my speech.  Amazing!  Take that, Hillary!"

DAH DA DA DAH DA DA, THATS TRUMP!
Title: Re: Trump in the UK
Post by: Baruch on July 14, 2018, 10:49:48 PM
Quote from: Munch on July 14, 2018, 09:04:53 PM
DAH DA DA DAH DA DA, THATS TRUMP!

I liked it better when the President threw up all over the PM (of Japan in that case).
Title: Re: Trump in the UK
Post by: pr126 on July 15, 2018, 11:00:21 AM
People are sheep.

Trump Derangement Syndrome will be in the DSM VI under personality disorders.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKfkzsgZQWQ
Title: Re: Trump in the UK
Post by: Shiranu on July 15, 2018, 11:20:44 AM
QuoteAd hominem is not an argument.
Unless you have nothing else.

QuotePeople are sheep.

Trump Derangement Syndrome will be in the DSM VI under personality disorders.
Title: Re: Trump in the UK
Post by: Munch on July 15, 2018, 11:23:30 AM
Quote from: pr126 on July 15, 2018, 11:00:21 AM
People are sheep.

Trump Derangement Syndrome will be in the DSM VI under personality disorders.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iu2P6D9VGw8&t=1788s

apparently trump and brexit are linked, even though they have nothing to do with each other.
Title: Re: Trump in the UK
Post by: pr126 on July 15, 2018, 11:37:43 AM
Trump had in mind some trade contract with the UK after Brexit.
However, if Brexit doesn't happen, all deals are off. So yes, it is connected.

Title: Re: Trump in the UK
Post by: Baruch on July 15, 2018, 12:40:11 PM
Quote from: pr126 on July 15, 2018, 11:37:43 AM
Trump had in mind some trade contract with the UK after Brexit.
However, if Brexit doesn't happen, all deals are off. So yes, it is connected.

They are connected ... all White males must die now!  They are the counter-revolutionaries fighting against our very rational Robespierre .. hence The Terror is necessary for national security.

There is a special relationship ... the US is a crypto member of the Commonwealth.  That is why British intel was all over our last election ... with CIA tools that can make it look like any country did it (including Russia).  We will never know what happened with the DNC server ... any more than we will ever know what really happened in Dallas.  Your security clearance isn't high enough (CIA) or we can't comment on an ongoing investigation (FBI).
Title: Re: Trump in the UK
Post by: Baruch on July 15, 2018, 12:42:42 PM
Quote from: Munch on July 15, 2018, 11:23:30 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iu2P6D9VGw8&t=1788s

apparently trump and brexit are linked, even though they have nothing to do with each other.

So many Brits who are light skinned identify as Black (as with Dolezal) or are crypto-Muslims like Obama.  Sometimes both, if they admire Louis Farrakhan.

The Resistance in WW II were French Communists ... traitors two different ways ... in 1940 (as Labor nearly was in Britain) and politically in peace time.  They only fought Hitler when told to do so by Stalin.
Title: Re: Trump in the UK
Post by: Shiranu on July 15, 2018, 01:56:47 PM
Quote... even though they have nothing to do with each other.

They are both populist movements that were sold on a mix of xenophobia and lies, and they both are potentially very destructive to their respective nations.
Title: Re: Trump in the UK
Post by: Baruch on July 15, 2018, 02:04:39 PM
Quote from: Shiranu on July 15, 2018, 01:56:47 PM
They are both populist movements that were sold on a mix of xenophobia and lies, and they both are potentially very destructive to their respective nations.

Hence the need for a revolutionary cadre of Awake progressives ... Lenin, Mao ...
Title: Re: Trump in the UK
Post by: aitm on July 15, 2018, 02:16:01 PM
I must admit that on this occasion I rather hail Trump. I know the British are somewhat torn on the idea that they still have a "Royal Family" to support but the reality is their time should have been "up" a hundred years ago. I am not impressed by people simply because they were born into a family, or married into a family. I mean the idea of "royalty"? Meh...go fuck yerself.
Title: Re: Trump in the UK
Post by: Munch on July 15, 2018, 02:47:42 PM
Quote from: Shiranu on July 15, 2018, 01:56:47 PM
They are both populist movements that were sold on a mix of xenophobia and lies, and they both are potentially very destructive to their respective nations.

(https://i.imgflip.com/103xbo.jpg)
Title: Re: Trump in the UK
Post by: Shiranu on July 15, 2018, 02:53:15 PM
Quote from: Munch on July 15, 2018, 02:47:42 PM
(https://i.imgflip.com/103xbo.jpg)

I sincerely hope you don't think that was deep.
Title: Re: Trump in the UK
Post by: Munch on July 15, 2018, 03:21:50 PM
Quote from: Shiranu on July 15, 2018, 02:53:15 PM
I sincerely hope you don't think that was deep.

of course not, I know its usually a shallow conversation with you.

update from sargon though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwEL5nmbVio&t=317s

looks like trumps siding with brexit and making sure the uk sticks with america.

though now i'm wondering what the uk under boris johnson would be like.

(http://i.imgur.com/Vs0gaJd.jpg)
Title: Re: Trump in the UK
Post by: Baruch on July 15, 2018, 04:22:32 PM
Quote from: aitm on July 15, 2018, 02:16:01 PM
I must admit that on this occasion I rather hail Trump. I know the British are somewhat torn on the idea that they still have a "Royal Family" to support but the reality is their time should have been "up" a hundred years ago. I am not impressed by people simply because they were born into a family, or married into a family. I mean the idea of "royalty"? Meh...go fuck yerself.

It was proposed, that when Labor in Britain goes full Marxist, the British royals can move to the US to set up a British amusement park, Windsor-Land.  Not a bad thing, better than the French monarchy devolution.  They can set it up in New England, of course ;-)

Personally I like my royal distant relations ... as long as I don't have to bend my knee to them ... old age you know ...

Boris Johnson would make an interesting national leader, since he has a classical education (Greco-Roman).  No Marx for him, but no, he won't be leader ever.  The manifest destiny of Marxism will see to that.

A geriatric US vs a geriatric EU?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hnBp7x2QAE
Title: Re: Trump in the UK
Post by: pr126 on July 16, 2018, 12:08:26 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KntdceL2dvI
Title: Re: Trump in the UK
Post by: Shiranu on July 16, 2018, 03:50:00 AM
(https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/37175703_2557721697572126_6819291073903329280_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=86c99831b67148c8245a863bf84b2ed7&oe=5BD6124C)
Title: Re: Trump in the UK
Post by: Munch on July 16, 2018, 04:56:07 AM
Yeah I'm sure the u.s is gonna collapse, it's not like any of that's happened before in America
Title: Re: Trump in the UK
Post by: Shiranu on July 16, 2018, 05:32:46 AM
*Empire, not the United States.


https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/18/opinion/immigration-trump-children-american-empire.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/18/opinion/immigration-trump-children-american-empire.html)


QuoteAnd while you might be tempted to view international trade deals, which Trump says have turned us into a “piggy bank that everyone else is robbing,” as a completely separate story, they are anything but. Trade agreements were meant to (and did) make America richer, but they were also, from the beginning, about more than dollars and cents.In fact, the modern world trading system was largely the brainchild not of economists or business interests, but of Cordell Hull, F.D.R.’s long-serving secretary of state, who believed that “prosperous trade among nations” was an essential element in building an “enduring peace.” So you want to think of the postwar creation of the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade as part of the same strategy that more or less simultaneously gave rise to the Marshall Plan and the creation of NATO.

So all the things happening now are of a piece. Committing atrocities at the border, attacking the domestic rule of law, insulting democratic leaders while praising thugs, and breaking up trade agreements are all about ending American exceptionalism, turning our back on the ideals that made us different from other powerful nations.


And rejecting our ideals won’t make us stronger; it will make us weaker. We were the leader of the free world, a moral as well as financial and military force. But we’re throwing all that away.
Title: Re: Trump in the UK
Post by: Baruch on July 16, 2018, 07:13:37 AM
Quote from: Shiranu on July 16, 2018, 03:50:00 AM
(https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/37175703_2557721697572126_6819291073903329280_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=86c99831b67148c8245a863bf84b2ed7&oe=5BD6124C)

Would a country print (electronically) trillions of non-existent money, and hand half over to European banks and half over to American banks?  Yes they would, in 2008-2009.  14 trillion.  Canada and Mexico have been praying for the death of the US for over 200 years now ... they may have to wait awhile longer.  The Fifth column hasn't completed its work yet.
Title: Re: Trump in the UK
Post by: Baruch on July 16, 2018, 07:14:50 AM
Quote from: Munch on July 16, 2018, 04:56:07 AM
Yeah I'm sure the u.s is gonna collapse, it's not like any of that's happened before in America

Infinite parallel universes ... in half the US has collapsed and not in the other half ... which half of the multiverse are we in?

The Soviet Union had a hiccup ... they didn't collapse.  Just ask Putin.

The Democrats have been importing people to the US from the beginning, both legal and illegal, free and slave.  In the vain hope that the immigrants will reciprocate and vote Democrat.  What a bunch of maroons!
Title: Re: Trump in the UK
Post by: pr126 on July 16, 2018, 11:54:59 AM
Some people would like to see the US collapse.
As a punishment for voting Trump.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPUm2-wYE-M
Title: Re: Trump in the UK
Post by: Baruch on July 16, 2018, 01:07:04 PM
That is exactly how puritans roll ... Islamic or secular.  They want people punished ... so they can have good orgasims about how virtuous they are ...

You will all vote for George McGovern in 1972, or I will kill you all! (sarc).  There are real zombies ... they call themselves Democrats.
Title: Re: Trump in the UK
Post by: Unbeliever on July 16, 2018, 02:48:04 PM
America is bleeding from it's eyes, from it's...wherever...
Title: Re: Trump in the UK
Post by: Shiranu on July 16, 2018, 03:04:23 PM
Forget the UK, it's in Finland today that Trump has really shown his true colors... He trusts Putin and the KGB that they are innocent more than his own intelligence community that has proven guilt from Russian and American agents.
Title: Re: Trump in the UK
Post by: Unbeliever on July 16, 2018, 03:11:54 PM
Yeah, I've just been watching that. Disgusting!
Title: Re: Trump in the UK
Post by: Baruch on July 16, 2018, 06:28:33 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on July 16, 2018, 02:48:04 PM
America is bleeding from it's eyes, from it's...wherever...

E Bola R Us.  The far Left is crying tears of joy.
Title: Re: Trump in the UK
Post by: Baruch on July 16, 2018, 06:29:39 PM
Quote from: Shiranu on July 16, 2018, 03:04:23 PM
Forget the UK, it's in Finland today that Trump has really shown his true colors... He trusts Putin and the KGB that they are innocent more than his own intelligence community that has proven guilt from Russian and American agents.

The FBI and CIA killed Kennedy, Malcolm X and MLK  ... and were never brought to justice.  Would you trust that?  And no, as a businessman, I am sure he doesn't even trust his own family.  Uranium One ... traitor.  Outlaw the D party now ... as a prelude to outlawing the R party.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsMuK_Sos58

Sometimes I wish the world had been blown to hell in Oct 1962.
Title: Re: Trump in the UK
Post by: Baruch on July 16, 2018, 06:30:26 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on July 16, 2018, 03:11:54 PM
Yeah, I've just been watching that. Disgusting!

Hate Russians?  !950s much?  We aren't even in full 1960s mode yet .. you hell spawn Millennials haven't seen anything yet.  Don't let a rogue Soviet agent say "telefon" to you over the phone, it might activate your deep NLP.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Qg0w8qbBQo
Title: Re: Trump in the UK
Post by: Unbeliever on July 16, 2018, 08:03:04 PM
Putin could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and not lose any of Trump's love.
Title: Re: Trump in the UK
Post by: Baruch on July 16, 2018, 11:30:33 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on July 16, 2018, 08:03:04 PM
Putin could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and not lose any of Trump's love.

Coming from a "poster" that would be a complement ;-)  Why don't you get on your FPS game and go kill all your enemies now ;-)
Title: Re: Trump in the UK
Post by: Cavebear on July 17, 2018, 01:08:40 AM
Quote from: Baruch on July 13, 2018, 07:53:55 PM
I would have liked the Electoral College better, if they voted for military dictatorship.  Better now than later.

Cavebear doesn't like anyone having fun, not even dogs.

I hope all the liberals / laborites dehydrate, from all their lost salty tears ;-))

Dogs are dangerous, even when their owners say they aren't.  A policeman shot a day a few days ago that was attacking a stranger just walking along the street.  It seems to happen regularly that innocent people are attacked by dogs.  When is the last time someone was attacked by a housecat?
Title: Re: Trump in the UK
Post by: pr126 on July 17, 2018, 01:15:19 AM
 Interesting times (https://gatesofvienna.net/2018/07/the-end-times-of-albion-tyranny-and-ineptitude-in-high-places/)
Title: Re: Trump in the UK
Post by: Cavebear on July 17, 2018, 01:28:26 AM
It is now clear that Trump prefers dictators, wants to be one himself, and does not care a whit for democracy.
Title: Re: Trump in the UK
Post by: Shiranu on July 17, 2018, 01:57:48 AM
Quote from: pr126 on July 17, 2018, 01:15:19 AM
Interesting times (https://gatesofvienna.net/2018/07/the-end-times-of-albion-tyranny-and-ineptitude-in-high-places/)


Funny that someone who fled the Soviets is more concerned about despising Western culture and freedoms (which he claims to want to "protect") rather than being concerned that an ex-KGB President is actively destabilizing Western culture and safeguards. It's funny, you do the same thing with Muslims... you claim to despise everything they stand for, and yet ideologically you are in agreement with fundamentalist Muslims far more than opposed to them.

Fear and xenophobia is one hell of a drug.
Title: Re: Trump in the UK
Post by: pr126 on July 17, 2018, 02:15:16 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on July 17, 2018, 01:28:26 AM
It is now clear that Trump prefers dictators, wants to be one himself, and does not care a whit for democracy.

How much liberty have you lost since the 2016 inauguration?
How much are you worse off now? What has changed for you?

BTW, the USA is a Republic, not a Democracy.
Title: Re: Trump in the UK
Post by: Cavebear on July 17, 2018, 02:24:15 AM
Quote from: pr126 on July 17, 2018, 02:15:16 AM
How much liberty have you lost since the 2016 inauguration?
How much are you worse off now? What has changed for you?

BTW, the USA is a Republic, not a Democracy.

At the Federal Presidential level, yes.  At most all other equal and lower levels, No.  In most levels and Congressional elections, it is a democracy.  There isn't a single descriptive that encompasses both Executive and Congressional and lower level elections.
Title: Re: Trump in the UK
Post by: pr126 on July 17, 2018, 02:37:14 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on July 17, 2018, 02:24:15 AM
At the Federal Presidential level, yes.  At most all other equal and lower levels, No.  In most levels and Congressional elections, it is a democracy.  There isn't a single descriptive that encompasses both Executive and Congressional and lower level elections.
This still doesn't explain how much you personally worse off in your daily life.

Title: Re: Trump in the UK
Post by: Cavebear on July 17, 2018, 02:44:02 AM
Quote from: pr126 on July 17, 2018, 02:37:14 AM
This still doesn't explain how much you personally worse off in your daily life.

How I am "personally worse off" is completely irrelevant to my question.
Title: Re: Trump in the UK
Post by: pr126 on July 17, 2018, 02:53:22 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on July 17, 2018, 02:44:02 AM
How I am "personally worse off" is completely irrelevant to my question.
I see. The only thing then changed is TDS.
Title: Re: Trump in the UK
Post by: Cavebear on July 17, 2018, 03:26:07 AM
Quote from: pr126 on July 17, 2018, 02:53:22 AM
I see. The only thing then changed is TDS.

There are a lot of TDS acronyms.  https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/TDS  Which did you mean?
Title: Re: Trump in the UK
Post by: pr126 on July 17, 2018, 03:36:30 AM
Trump Derangement syndrome.

Cause: Overdose of CNN.
Title: Re: Trump in the UK
Post by: Cavebear on July 17, 2018, 03:49:45 AM
Quote from: pr126 on July 17, 2018, 03:36:30 AM
Trump Derangement syndrome.

Cause: Overdose of CNN.

I don't watch CNN or Fox (the new subsidiary media arm of the Trump administration).  I read fact-checker sites that pay attention to actual news, serious factual reporting in The Washington Post newspaper, and BBC international news.  They are factual.
Title: Re: Trump in the UK
Post by: pr126 on July 17, 2018, 03:58:32 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on July 17, 2018, 03:49:45 AM
I don't watch CNN or Fox (the new subsidiary media arm of the Trump administration).  I read fact-checker sites that pay attention to actual news, serious factual reporting in The Washington Post newspaper, and BBC international news.  They are factual.
No, they are not better than CNN.
BBC is a leftist propaganda outlet. I stopped watching it years ago.

But there again, they broadcast what you want to see.  So it is OK for you.
Title: Re: Trump in the UK
Post by: Cavebear on July 17, 2018, 04:05:11 AM
Quote from: pr126 on July 17, 2018, 03:58:32 AM
No, they are not better than CNN.
BBC is a leftist propaganda outlet. I stopped watching it years ago.

But there again, they broadcast what you want to see.  So it is OK for you.

I suppose the difference is that I hear/read information on some sites and consider them with caution and check them on opposing sites before accepting the info a trustable.  And of course, you won't think anything trustable.
Title: Re: Trump in the UK
Post by: Shiranu on July 17, 2018, 04:32:58 AM
QuoteBut there again, they broadcast what you want to see.  So it is OK for you.

And yet your links do the same thing, except without even any pretext at being a professional news source but rather just a collective pundit blog for people who hold the same ideology as you and that has no verifiable sources of any credibility for all it's posters.

Yet how many times have you gotten angry over people calling the validity of your news site into question?
Title: Re: Trump in the UK
Post by: Munch on July 17, 2018, 04:36:09 AM
He's right about the BBC, just another news site with its own agenda so it's not a valid source for fact checking
Title: Re: Trump in the UK
Post by: Cavebear on July 17, 2018, 04:38:55 AM
Quote from: Shiranu on July 17, 2018, 04:32:58 AM
And yet your links do the same thing, except without even any pretext at being a professional news source but rather just a collective pundit blog for people who hold the same ideology as you and that has no verifiable sources of any credibility for all it's posters.

Yet how many times have you gotten angry over people calling the validity of your news site into question?

For me, I look for verification at other sites, and not ones that just reflect the original site.
Title: Re: Trump in the UK
Post by: Baruch on July 17, 2018, 06:52:23 AM
Quote from: Shiranu on July 17, 2018, 04:32:58 AM
And yet your links do the same thing, except without even any pretext at being a professional news source but rather just a collective pundit blog for people who hold the same ideology as you and that has no verifiable sources of any credibility for all it's posters.

Yet how many times have you gotten angry over people calling the validity of your news site into question?

Look in Mirror, Pravda subscriber.
Title: Re: Trump in the UK
Post by: Unbeliever on July 17, 2018, 01:42:13 PM
Quote from: Shiranu on July 17, 2018, 01:57:48 AM
Fear and xenophobia is one hell of a drug.
I hear that comes from having an overactive amygdala.
Title: Re: Trump in the UK
Post by: Baruch on July 17, 2018, 05:44:46 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on July 17, 2018, 01:42:13 PM
I hear that comes from having an overactive amygdala.

Don't pick on Anakin's girl friend!  She doesn't even get to survive very long.
Title: Re: Trump in the UK
Post by: Baruch on July 17, 2018, 05:45:28 PM
Quote from: pr126 on July 17, 2018, 02:37:14 AM
This still doesn't explain how much you personally worse off in your daily life.

Easy explanation ... we are drowning in poor people, particularly poor politicians ... not because they are poor, but because they are hopeless at politics.
Title: Re: Trump in the UK
Post by: Baruch on July 17, 2018, 05:46:30 PM
Quote from: Cavebear on July 17, 2018, 01:28:26 AM
It is now clear that Trump prefers dictators, wants to be one himself, and does not care a whit for democracy.

We have preferred dictators since about 1946.  Trump is just one of many tyrants.
Title: Re: Trump in the UK
Post by: Baruch on July 17, 2018, 05:47:35 PM
Quote from: Cavebear on July 17, 2018, 02:24:15 AM
At the Federal Presidential level, yes.  At most all other equal and lower levels, No.  In most levels and Congressional elections, it is a democracy.  There isn't a single descriptive that encompasses both Executive and Congressional and lower level elections.

That was by design.  But if you D folks could make hay from a dictatorship, you would be for it.  Power is the ultimate aphrodisiac.  There was a brief moment in late 2016 when some liberals were calling for the Black Messiah (aka Obama) to invalidate the election and become our Baby Doc Duvalier.
Title: Re: Trump in the UK
Post by: Cavebear on July 21, 2018, 05:05:55 AM
Quote from: Baruch on July 17, 2018, 06:52:23 AM
Look in Mirror, Pravda subscriber.

Darn, my subscription never quite got set up.  Maybe because I THINK THEY ARE IDIOTS?
Title: Re: Trump in the UK
Post by: Baruch on July 21, 2018, 10:03:37 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on July 21, 2018, 05:05:55 AM
Darn, my subscription never quite got set up.  Maybe because I THINK THEY ARE IDIOTS?

Bet you love Time magazine however .. which has revealed itself, like the New York Times, to be completely partisan and Deep State.
Title: Re: Trump in the UK
Post by: Cavebear on July 21, 2018, 10:09:20 AM
Quote from: Baruch on July 21, 2018, 10:03:37 AM
Bet you love Time magazine however .. which has revealed itself, like the New York Times, to be completely partisan and Deep State.

No, I don't read 'Time'.  I read Scientific American, Smithsonian, Archeology, Consumer Reports, and Wood magazines.  None of wgich seem to be involved in 'Deep State' conspiracies as in your mind.
Title: Re: Trump in the UK
Post by: Baruch on July 21, 2018, 10:13:29 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on July 21, 2018, 10:09:20 AM
No, I don't read 'Time'.  I read Scientific American, Smithsonian, Archeology, Consumer Reports, and Wood magazines.  None of wgich seem to be involved in 'Deep State' conspiracies as in your mind.

Well that last one is suspicious ... Deep Woods?  Isn't that a Nixon period code name? ;-))
Title: Re: Trump in the UK
Post by: Cavebear on July 21, 2018, 10:40:51 AM
Quote from: Baruch on July 21, 2018, 10:13:29 AM
Well that last one is suspicious ... Deep Woods?  Isn't that a Nixon period code name? ;-))

Rosemary aside...

Wood is about building stuff with wood.  I do that.  Aside from crossing swords on my part with dagger wielding fools like you, and do a lot of things.  One is building rough furniture.