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Title: Origins of current problems in the West, already happened long ago ...
Post by: Baruch on July 07, 2018, 11:06:11 AM
http://factmyth.com/patricians-plebeians-optimates-and-populares/

The Roman Republic had all the same problems we have today.  Though we handle slavery and blood sports differently.

The Optimates = republicans ... The Populares = democrats.
Title: Re: Origins of current problems in the West, already happened long ago ...
Post by: SoldierofFortune on July 08, 2018, 03:06:44 PM
For myself, I feel plebians, i feel them...
Title: Re: Origins of current problems in the West, already happened long ago ...
Post by: Baruch on July 08, 2018, 07:09:55 PM
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For myself, I feel plebians, i feel them...

Naturally most of us do.  Hard to feel sorry for the patricians ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNRvz5O9l2s
Title: Re: Origins of current problems in the West, already happened long ago ...
Post by: Baruch on July 15, 2018, 02:03:11 PM
Survival of civilization was a near run thing ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwUwjkEveBE

Most people were illiterate, didn't care.  Most people lived on farms, didn't care for the city (aka civilization).  The Elite only cared for what was good for them ... power and money.

What is similar?  Pagan puritans, Christian puritans ... were intolerant.  And secular people were their common enemy.  We have the same sophists today.
Title: Re: Origins of current problems in the West, already happened long ago ...
Post by: Baruch on July 15, 2018, 04:12:04 PM
More on the inability of the Republic to find fair solutions to their problems ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kQPFWhGRtY

You can't get solutions from people who are being paid to ignore changing times.  Napoleon was copying Caesar.