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Title: Maryland Newspaper Shooting Leaves at Least 5 Dead
Post by: Shiranu on June 28, 2018, 06:10:28 PM
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/annapolis-shooting-latest-capital-gazette-maryland-building-newspaper-dead-shot-today-a8422086.html (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/annapolis-shooting-latest-capital-gazette-maryland-building-newspaper-dead-shot-today-a8422086.html)


QuoteAt least five people have been killed after a gunman opened fire in a newsroom in Annapolis, Maryland.

“There are five fatalities and several others gravely injured,” said Anne Arundel police department Acting Chief William Frank, some of those injured were believed to be in critical condition.

Four of the victims dies at the scene in the office, with one dying later in hospital, Anne Arundel County Executive Steve Schuh said.

Police rushed to the scene at the offices of local newspaper within a minute of being called and engaged with the suspect. The alleged shooter, identified as a white adult male, was found under a desk with a weapon nearby and taken into custody for questioning.

When the wannabe dictator repeats, and repeats, and repeats that the media is "the enemy", that they are "destroying America", what do you really expect?


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dgz1YsNVAAEIRpb.jpg)
Title: Re: Maryland Newspaper Shooting Leaves at Least 5 Dead
Post by: Baruch on June 28, 2018, 06:30:04 PM
Yes, violence agains the Press has increased.

https://cpj.org/data/killed/2012/?status=Killed&motiveConfirmed%5B%5D=Confirmed&type%5B%5D=Journalist&start_year=2008&end_year=2018&group_by=location

I searched by the 2008-2018 time frame, limited to journalists killed with confirmed motive.

615 total over 10 years.  Mexico is the leading killer in this hemisphere.

Don't blame Trump or anyone else, unless they pulled the trigger.
Title: Re: Maryland Newspaper Shooting Leaves at Least 5 Dead
Post by: Draconic Aiur on June 28, 2018, 06:32:28 PM
So, when will the true enemy b atheists?
Title: Re: Maryland Newspaper Shooting Leaves at Least 5 Dead
Post by: Baruch on June 28, 2018, 06:33:38 PM
Quote from: Draconic Aiur on June 28, 2018, 06:32:28 PM
So, when will the true enemy b atheists?

Then people realize that most Jews are atheists ... they will blame the Jews.

So when people go postal ... it is always politics?
Title: Re: Maryland Newspaper Shooting Leaves at Least 5 Dead
Post by: Draconic Aiur on June 28, 2018, 06:35:04 PM
Quote from: Baruch on June 28, 2018, 06:33:38 PM
Then people realize that most Jews are atheists ... they will blame the Jews.

So when people go postal ... it is always politics?

Unfortunately.
Title: Re: Maryland Newspaper Shooting Leaves at Least 5 Dead
Post by: Baruch on June 28, 2018, 06:42:24 PM
Quote from: Draconic Aiur on June 28, 2018, 06:35:04 PM
Unfortunately.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Going_postal

I count also the Army psychologist who went postal (as a jihadi) ... since he did it at his workplace.  Terrorists usually don't kill at their workplaces.
Title: Re: Maryland Newspaper Shooting Leaves at Least 5 Dead
Post by: Cavebear on June 28, 2018, 08:38:42 PM
Quote from: Draconic Aiur on June 28, 2018, 06:35:04 PM
Unfortunately.

Well, most people are atheists.  They just don't realize or admit it.
Title: Re: Maryland Newspaper Shooting Leaves at Least 5 Dead
Post by: Baruch on June 29, 2018, 01:59:17 AM
Quote from: Baruch on June 28, 2018, 06:42:24 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Going_postal

I count also the Army psychologist who went postal (as a jihadi) ... since he did it at his workplace.  Terrorists usually don't kill at their workplaces.

PS ... this particular case, wasn't a co-worker, just a disgruntled known felon.
Title: Re: Maryland Newspaper Shooting Leaves at Least 5 Dead
Post by: SGOS on June 29, 2018, 12:09:23 PM
Killing the messengers, I suppose.
Title: Re: Maryland Newspaper Shooting Leaves at Least 5 Dead
Post by: Baruch on June 29, 2018, 12:41:06 PM
Quote from: SGOS on June 29, 2018, 12:09:23 PM
Killing the messengers, I suppose.

Again, someone well known to police, with a restraining order on him.  Cops don't stop any crimes.
Title: Re: Maryland Newspaper Shooting Leaves at Least 5 Dead
Post by: SGOS on June 29, 2018, 01:22:59 PM
Quote from: Baruch on June 29, 2018, 12:41:06 PM
Again, someone well known to police, with a restraining order on him.  Cops don't stop any crimes.
Law enforcement is not proactive.  By nature it can't be in our system.  Oh, they do a little educating, as in, "The public needs to be educated not to kill other citizens.  There!  We are done here.  Let's get some donuts." 
Title: Re: Maryland Newspaper Shooting Leaves at Least 5 Dead
Post by: Baruch on June 29, 2018, 07:03:16 PM
Quote from: SGOS on June 29, 2018, 01:22:59 PM
Law enforcement is not proactive.  By nature it can't be in our system.  Oh, they do a little educating, as in, "The public needs to be educated not to kill other citizens.  There!  We are done here.  Let's get some donuts."

Thus the notion that the solution to our problems are more laws ... strains credulity.
Title: Re: Maryland Newspaper Shooting Leaves at Least 5 Dead
Post by: Shiranu on June 29, 2018, 08:59:53 PM
Milo Yiannopoulos insists he was just "trolling" when he said he cant wait for people to start murdering journalists.

http://thehill.com/homenews/media/394715-milo-yiannopoulos-my-call-for-shooting-journalists-was-just-a-troll

Seriously, how even people here defend this pedophile and his far-right, hateful rhetoric is beyond me.

Imagine someone on the left saying that right-wing people need to be publicly executed, and then just said, "lol jk, just trollin!".

How far do you think that shit would fly?

Title: Re: Maryland Newspaper Shooting Leaves at Least 5 Dead
Post by: GSOgymrat on June 29, 2018, 10:20:48 PM
Quote from: Shiranu on June 29, 2018, 08:59:53 PM
Milo Yiannopoulos insists he was just "trolling" when he said he cant wait for people to start murdering journalists.

http://thehill.com/homenews/media/394715-milo-yiannopoulos-my-call-for-shooting-journalists-was-just-a-troll

Seriously, how even people here defend this pedophile and his far-right, hateful rhetoric is beyond me.

Imagine someone on the left saying that right-wing people need to be publicly executed, and then just said, "lol jk, just trollin!".

How far do you think that shit would fly?

From what I have read, many far-Right activists have been distancing themselves from Milo Yiannopoulos. Being shocking and offensive is Yiannolpoulos' shtick and it's the only thing he was good at, but the joke got stale. Nothing he says bothers me because nothing says is sincere or thoughtful, it's all an act.

Milo says he hopes the shooter is transgender...

Yes, that's the best he can come up with. It's not shocking, it's not witty, it's just tired.
Title: Re: Maryland Newspaper Shooting Leaves at Least 5 Dead
Post by: Baruch on June 30, 2018, 12:52:59 AM
Quote from: Shiranu on June 29, 2018, 08:59:53 PM
Milo Yiannopoulos insists he was just "trolling" when he said he cant wait for people to start murdering journalists.

http://thehill.com/homenews/media/394715-milo-yiannopoulos-my-call-for-shooting-journalists-was-just-a-troll

Seriously, how even people here defend this pedophile and his far-right, hateful rhetoric is beyond me.

Imagine someone on the left saying that right-wing people need to be publicly executed, and then just said, "lol jk, just trollin!".

How far do you think that shit would fly?

I am sure you support Newspeak.  Who is your Big Brother?
Title: Re: Maryland Newspaper Shooting Leaves at Least 5 Dead
Post by: Shiranu on June 30, 2018, 04:16:57 AM
https://www.inverse.com/article/46552-jarrod-ramos-the-capital-gazette-shooter-was-an-online-troll (https://www.inverse.com/article/46552-jarrod-ramos-the-capital-gazette-shooter-was-an-online-troll)

Apparently he had a history of being an "alt-right" troll, and had beef with the Gazette for running an article on his harassment of a former classmate.

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I know it must happen because of sheer statistics, but why do these acts of violence always occur from the "alt-right", the "anti-PC", "anti-SJW" crowds? Like... there are incel attacks, there are right-wing terrorists, there are Nazis marching in streets and running over people, the incel attacking women with vans or acid... but you almost never hear of the far left doing the same. Who was the last president we had that went out and publicly defended Nazis, or called on his supporters to beat up protesters and he would cover the legal fees, or call on his supporters to harass his opponents social media?

Yet if you listened to people here and the rest of the internet you would think the far left, the SJW were literally seconds away from killing their mothers, and that the far-left and far-right are "pretty much the same and equal". I'm sorry, but that is absolute bullshit.

And just because writing that made me curious, here is the number of people killed by terrorist attacks in the U.S. since 2008...


https://www.snopes.com/news/2017/08/17/are-antifa-and-the-alt-right-equally-violent/


-372 Americans killed.
-74% of those killings were committed by far-right terrorists.
-2% were committed by left-wing terrorists.

Obviously, even 2% is too fucking many and they need to be condemned for it in the strongest way possible, but how the fuck can people continue this narrative that the far-left and the far-right are remotely comparable? I just don't fucking get it.
Title: Re: Maryland Newspaper Shooting Leaves at Least 5 Dead
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on June 30, 2018, 06:50:36 AM
Lots of people on the Internet single-source their news. Magnifies the already distorted situation.
Title: Re: Maryland Newspaper Shooting Leaves at Least 5 Dead
Post by: SGOS on June 30, 2018, 07:01:18 AM
Quote from: Shiranu on June 30, 2018, 04:16:57 AM
how the fuck can people continue this narrative that the far-left and the far-right are remotely comparable? I just don't fucking get it.
The right has done this for as long as I can remember.  They accuse the left of the right's sins in an attempt to pass the blame.  The death panels of universal health care were an attempt at transferring blame from beloved insurance companies for poor coverage.  And done when no healthcare proposal actually included death panels.  "Yeah, but Hillary," is attempt to deflect the blame away from any criminal behavior of Republican leaders.  This is done by creating false accusations that Hillary had been found guilty of crimes.  Or in the case of SJW violence, it is done by stereotyping the whole through the use of rare and isolated incidents.  It's an intellectually dishonest projection of the right's own disreputable behavior.

The right knows deep down that its behavior is reprehensible, and creating the perception that the left is equally so is an attempt to deflect.  Ideally, the most gullible will believe that the left is even worse and eventually the wackos will believe the left is totally to blame, while the right is as pure as the driven snow, God's chosen people in the fight against evil.  And can you blame anyone for not wanting to be the stand alone assholes?  Well, you don't need to blame, but this should help you understand why, and now you should "get it."



Title: Re: Maryland Newspaper Shooting Leaves at Least 5 Dead
Post by: Baruch on June 30, 2018, 07:57:27 AM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on June 30, 2018, 06:50:36 AM
Lots of people on the Internet single-source their news. Magnifies the already distorted situation.

I always to at least 2 ... a BernieBros source (supporting that recent D primary winner) and a lumpen-Nazi source.  Both are business channels!  Really most of my news comes from studying history.  You can't get perspective on the news, unless it is at least 100 years old.

Why is the R violent and the L is not?  Calling Dr Zivago.  On what pacifist planet do you soy eaters live?
Title: Re: Maryland Newspaper Shooting Leaves at Least 5 Dead
Post by: Cavebear on July 02, 2018, 02:21:06 AM
Quote from: SGOS on June 30, 2018, 07:01:18 AM
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The right knows deep down that its behavior is reprehensible, and creating the perception that the left is equally so is an attempt to deflect.  Ideally, the most gullible will believe that the left is even worse and eventually the wackos will believe the left is totally to blame, while the right is as pure as the driven snow, God's chosen people in the fight against evil.  And can you blame anyone for not wanting to be the stand alone assholes?  Well, you don't need to blame, but this should help you understand why, and now you should "get it."

You assume in error that the Right "knows deep down that its behavior is reprehensible".  I say they don't.  They really believe what they say, horrible as it sounds to us.  They believe women are property to be GUIDED and CONTROLLED by MEN for the good of society.

Sure they're crazy, but they believe it, and you better start to understand it.  Because we aren't going to stop them by trying to "meet them halfway"  thinking there is some compromise or rational argument that will change their minds. 

I've know too many who think women are just "convenient for sex".  I traveled on business once (single) for 6 weeks on contract negotiations and THE 2 MARRIED GUYS had "temporary wives" within a day.  They lied, cheated, and enjoyed,

And I'll bet some of the guys and gals reading this think "what was wrong with me"?  Think about that...
Title: Re: Maryland Newspaper Shooting Leaves at Least 5 Dead
Post by: Baruch on July 02, 2018, 07:13:19 AM
Both Left and Right virtue signal, and while the Proletariat is confused ... the DNC and RNC know exactly what they are doing.  And so does the NSA.