Wow. Watch liberal heads explode.
Trump Nominated For Nobel Peace Price... By Norway (https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-06-13/trump-nominated-nobel-peace-price-norway)
QuoteThe summit in Singapore has made US President Donald Trump "a man of peace," according to two Norwegian parliamentary representatives (from the Frp party), and as NRK reports, they have nominated him for the most gifted award of all of them.
I don't think he should accept if awarded.
I wouldn't want to be in the company or Yasser Arafat and 0bama. Have some dignity FFS.
Nothing particularly shocking, considering Kissinger has one as well.
Difference between being nominated for the prize and winning it though. Adam Sandler's "Click" was nominated for an Oscar, but that doesn't make him a great actor.
0/10 for the Obama troll though. Weak af, might have been the delivery being too cliche.
Quote from: Shiranu on June 14, 2018, 03:28:59 PM
0/10 for the Obama troll though. Weak af, might have been the delivery being too cliche.
The Obama thing was kind of strange though. He just got into office, and hadn't done anything. I'm not trying to be snide, but I think he got if for not being Bush. Really, at that time I was so happy to get rid of Bush, that I would have given the Nobel Prize to anyone that replaced him. And I'll speculate that the committee gave it to Obama in that untimely manner, just to point out to the world that they didn't think Bush deserved anything. Bush had just finished two terms. Had he done a good thing, it would have been the right time to award him. But no. They give it to a complete stranger, rather than Bush. But I wasn't in the room when the committee decided to handle it like that.
I think it's a mix of that and the fact he was the first African American president, which is a historic landmark the committee probably didn't want to miss out on.
That, and he was one of the best statesmen we have had in decades, regardless of how you feel about his policies.
The Nobel and the Oscar aren't worth the tin foil they are made of.
My head would indeed explode since Trump isn't truly worthy of a peace prize.
Quote from: pr126 on June 14, 2018, 02:43:17 PM
Wow. Watch liberal heads explode.
Trump Nominated For Nobel Peace Price... By Norway (https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-06-13/trump-nominated-nobel-peace-price-norway)
I don't think he should accept if awarded.
I wouldn't want to be in the company or Yasser Arafat and 0bama. Have some dignity FFS.
Also go fuck yourself you crazy fool. The Nobel Peace prize is a dream.
Quote from: Draconic Aiur on June 15, 2018, 02:28:41 AM
My head would indeed explode since Trump isn't truly worthy of a peace prize.
But Yasser Arafat was?
Did you know that Hitler was nominated fot the Nobel peace prize?
QuoteDid you know that Hitler was nominated fot the Nobel peace prize?
No, he wasn't... at least, not as a serious contender but rather that of a satirical punching bag.
https://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/facts/peace/ (https://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/facts/peace/)
QuoteAdolf Hitler was nominated once in 1939. Incredulous though it may seem today, the Nazi dictator Adolf Hitler was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize in 1939, by a member of the Swedish parliament, an E.G.C. Brandt. Apparently though, Brandt never intended the nomination to be taken seriously. Brandt was to all intents and purposes a dedicated antifascist, and had intended this nomination more as a satiric criticism of the current political debate in Sweden. (At the time, a number of Swedish parliamentarians had nominated then British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlin for the Nobel Peace Prize, a nomination which Brandt viewed with great skepticism. ) However, Brandt's satirical intentions were not well received at all and the nomination was swiftly withdrawn in a letter dated 1 February 1939.
Now, if you really want to bring up WW2, you should go with the fact that Joseph Stalin was nominated for one. That really fits your whole, "Cultural Marxist are out to subvert society! It goes back all the way to 1945!". It would be both factual and conveniently in favour of your position depending on how you spin it.
Rookie mistake. 0/10.
The only thing I want to comment on is the giddy, premature anticipation of "triggered liberals" of every single post pr makes. Almost like that is almost entirely what the 1-dimensional old fart consists of.
Don't forget to change your pants, since you jerk yourself off so hard. No one likes a mess
One thing is sure, liberals are very tolerant to different ideas.
Maybe that’s why the call themselves liberals.
Quote from: PickelledEggs on June 15, 2018, 03:31:55 AM
The only thing I want to comment on is the giddy, premature anticipation of "triggered liberals" of every single post pr makes. Almost like that is almost entirely what the 1-dimensional old fart consists of.
Does anyone ever stop to wonder who is really the one suffering when someone accuses another of being triggered? Is it the recipient of the baiting, or the person who delights in believing others are upset? Delighting in the agitation of others is more likely a symptom of unresolved emotions festering under the skin. It's about unresolved hatred and contempt. Someone got triggered long ago, and wants payback even if it can only be imagined.
PR123 isn't actually that bad, IMO. He's bothered by potentially seeing his culture taken over by another less tolerant one. I don't see him actively trying to piss off others most of the time. I think his opinions are genuine. I can respect that more than someone who simply wants to be a prick for the sake of satisfying a perverse need.
Quote from: Draconic Aiur on June 15, 2018, 02:28:41 AM
My head would indeed explode since Trump isn't truly worthy of a peace prize.
Did you protest Obama's prize?
Quote from: pr126 on June 15, 2018, 04:20:59 AM
One thing is sure, liberals are very tolerant to different ideas.
Maybe that’s why the call themselves liberals.
Are they tolerant of Islamists cutting off their heads? I want to see that ... seems like Europe will be the test case.
No, not all Germans were Nazis ... but the Nazis were the one's in control, that is what mattered, not virtue signaling.
When the less tolerant Japanese killed 20 million Chinese ... it was just the Chinese being intolerant of genocide, their fault, not Japan's.
If people here are tolerant of a less tolerant society where they live ... then y'all are fakes.
The liberal left has the same certitude in their beliefs that many of the devout Christians and Muslims have.
They are right, everybody else is wrong.
Thanks to the relentless indoctrination and propaganda that is done by the Academia and Media for the last 50 years.
If you want to see America's future, watch Europe closely.
You are heading there.
@ PickelledEggs
You have a choice to ignore my posts just as I am ignoring yours.
Quote from: pr126 on June 15, 2018, 12:47:15 PM
@ PickelledEggs
You have a choice to ignore my posts just as I am ignoring yours.
I actually don't. And I'm not upset by your posts or anything, I'm intrigued and still curious to see if we can break you out of your thick headded, incorrect view of the world
Quote from: Baruch on June 15, 2018, 06:45:52 AM
Did you protest Obama's prize?
Why do I need to? Oh wait is it because Obama was waaaaaaaaay better than Trump? And many republicans are butthurt by obama?
Quote from: Draconic Aiur on June 15, 2018, 05:08:06 PM
Why do I need to? Oh wait is it because Obama was waaaaaaaaay better than Trump? And many republicans are butthurt by obama?
So ... Obama's Nobel was justified? Bwhwha.
Obama probably shouldn't have received a Nobel Peace Award. It was probably a general idea to award the US for electing a biracial President. And to be fair, it is not like he sought it. I would have been more impressed if he had declined it, understanding that it not been earned. On the other hand, it is their award to give for their own reasons. And if you are given an award, its not like you have to start a fight about it.
Quote from: pr126 on June 14, 2018, 02:43:17 PM
Wow. Watch liberal heads explode.
Trump Nominated For Nobel Peace Price... By Norway (https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-06-13/trump-nominated-nobel-peace-price-norway)
I don't think he should accept if awarded.
I wouldn't want to be in the company or Yasser Arafat and 0bama. Have some dignity FFS.
Hyperbole and click bait...of which you repeat. Two legislators from Noway nominated Trump, which they are entitled to do because they meet the criteria for those who can nominate. However, the county, Norway, did not nominate him.
Quote from: Cavebear on June 16, 2018, 02:54:03 AM
Obama probably shouldn't have received a Nobel Peace Award. It was probably a general idea to award the US for electing a biracial President. And to be fair, it is not like he sought it. I would have been more impressed if he had declined it, understanding that it not been earned. On the other hand, it is their award to give for their own reasons. And if you are given an award, its not like you have to start a fight about it.
Pretty much spot on. I was actually disappointed that it was awarded to him, before he had actually done anything other than a) not be Dubya and b) communicate in clear, complete and grammatically correct sentences. And let's be fair, Obama himself recognized this in his address:
Quote from: Barack Obama
And yet I would be remiss if I did not acknowledge the considerable controversy that your generous decision has generated. In part, this is because I am at the beginning, and not the end, of my labors on the world stage. Compared to some of the giants of history who've received this prize â€" Schweitzer and King; Marshall and Mandela â€" my accomplishments are slight.
The Nobels are a human institution, not an anointment by some higher power, and subject to both the spirit of the times in which they are awarded, and historical analysis.
They've erred before in almost every categoryâ€"failing to recognize Gandhi, Alfred Russell Wallace, Lise Meitner, Jocelyn Bell Burnell, Dmitri Mendeleev, Ralph Alpher, or Einstein a second time for Special and General Relativity (his award was for explaining the photoelectric effect); or in awarding them to William Shockley (who more or less bullied his way onto the transistor team and actively tried to cut Brattain and Bardeen out of any recognition), Antonio Egas Moniz (lobotomies), or Kissinger. Occasionally they were even stopped from awarding one that was deservedâ€"the Nobel Physics committee wanted to award one to Sergei Korolev for the successful launch of Sputnik I, but the Soviet authorities wouldn't release Korolev's name and Khrushchev said if they wanted to award one for Sputnik it should be "in the name of the Soviet people".
Quote from: trdsf on June 21, 2018, 04:11:42 PM
Pretty much spot on. I was actually disappointed that it was awarded to him, before he had actually done anything other than a) not be Dubya and b) communicate in clear, complete and grammatically correct sentences. And let's be fair, Obama himself recognized this in his address:
The Nobels are a human institution, not an anointment by some higher power, and subject to both the spirit of the times in which they are awarded, and historical analysis.
They've erred before in almost every categoryâ€"failing to recognize Gandhi, Alfred Russell Wallace, Lise Meitner, Jocelyn Bell Burnell, Dmitri Mendeleev, Ralph Alpher, or Einstein a second time for Special and General Relativity (his award was for explaining the photoelectric effect); or in awarding them to William Shockley (who more or less bullied his way onto the transistor team and actively tried to cut Brattain and Bardeen out of any recognition), Antonio Egas Moniz (lobotomies), or Kissinger. Occasionally they were even stopped from awarding one that was deservedâ€"the Nobel Physics committee wanted to award one to Sergei Korolev for the successful launch of Sputnik I, but the Soviet authorities wouldn't release Korolev's name and Khrushchev said if they wanted to award one for Sputnik it should be "in the name of the Soviet people".
Can you imagine the speech Trump would give if he was actually awarded the Nobel Peace Prize?
"My fellow geniuses, who are not of course my equals, since I know everything, went to better schools, and have a hot wife and a daughter worth dating myself, I bid you welcome to this celebration of Donald Trump, me of course. And please notice my new hand transplants. They are HUGE! I bought them from a retired basketball player. So that settles everything, right? Actually, really say "right" or the tasers will be launched randomly.
I am here for you to honor Donald Trump, me, and you are here to do THAT because I am President of the Trump Company, US Presidency Inc. Stay at my hotels and play at my golf courses at high profits and I may talk to you again some day. Unless you are a rabidly nuts dictator, and then we will get along JUST FINE!
Damn, Ivana is HOT!
BTW, the Democrats ruined the American revolution (they were all Tories) but Tories were merchant-islamists and that is always bad and why we need to eliminate Europe. So of course, I accept your award to me, Donald Trump and accept your crown.
Thank you very much..."
A Nobel Peace Prize? For what? He's accomplished virtually none of his goals, other than putting his corrupt, unqualified friends in important positions of power, and he certainly hasn't done anything to make the world a better place. Oh well. It's not like the prize even means anything anymore. All this will do is inflate Trump's already massive ego.
Quote from: pr126 on June 15, 2018, 08:40:52 AM
The liberal left has the same certitude in their beliefs that many of the devout Christians and Muslims have.
They are right, everybody else is wrong.
Thanks to the relentless indoctrination and propaganda that is done by the Academia and Media for the last 50 years.
If you want to see America's future, watch Europe closely.
You are heading there.
Mmhm. And you totally give opinions opposite of your own fair consideration, don't you? Yep. Totally not thick headed or anything.
And BTW, calling education "indoctrination and propaganda" is ironically exactly what Christians and Muslims do. See, the difference between education and indoctrination is that education deals in facts, whereas indoctrination deals in beliefs. Colleges teach students how to think for themselves and challenge their preconceived ideas. That's part of the reason I'm no longer a Christian. Not because I was pressured into giving up my beliefs, because I wasn't. Probably 99% of my professors and fellow students were religious, so any time I felt threatened it was because of the mere presence of the reading material conflicting with my deeply held beliefs (such as the concept of evolution in my biology classes). At first, I basically plugged my ears and pressed on, but I eventually learned that is was okay to be open to new ideas. After all, if my beliefs were true, what would I have to be afraid of? That led to my beliefs being molded by the facts, and eventually the complete loss of my faith. Without my college education, I would still be a religious nut who thinks the earth is 6000 years old. So spare me your notions of "indoctrination."
I've said it more than a fair share of times now... if you put pr and a fundamentalist Muslim in the same room, they would agree on far more than they disagree... and they would agree on things they both consider top-tier priorities and not just trivial things.
Quote from: Shiranu on June 22, 2018, 09:25:04 PM
I've said it more than a fair share of times now... if you put pr and a fundamentalist Muslim in the same room, they would agree on far more than they disagree... and they would agree on things they both consider top-tier priorities and not just trivial things.
Both are Salafists? One is pro-Muslim, the other anti-Muslim ... but they both agree that historically and currently, that Islamism is a plan for world conquest and subjugation of others? Yes, they both believe that. I happen to agree with you, that it isn't necessarily so, that the average person in any group ... is an extremist. Can't treat them all as extremist, unless they are enabling a military machine. And that is where things get rough. The Saudi military machine is way down in Yemen doing bad things ... and they are a US ally.
Yeah, but their women can drive now, so they must not be too bad...
https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/23/middleeast/saudi-women-driving-ban-lifts-intl/index.html
Quote from: Unbeliever on June 24, 2018, 05:50:05 PM
Yeah, but their women can drive now, so they must not be too bad...
https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/23/middleeast/saudi-women-driving-ban-lifts-intl/index.html
I think they are needed as drivers to get the Saudi men soldiers to the Yemen front. Rosie the Taliban.
Quote from: Shiranu on June 22, 2018, 09:25:04 PM
I've said it more than a fair share of times now... if you put pr and a fundamentalist Muslim in the same room, they would agree on far more than they disagree... and they would agree on things they both consider top-tier priorities and not just trivial things.
If you put a moslem, a jew and a christian in a closed room and gave them knives, they would circle around each other looking for a chance to kill. But if you then put an atheist into the room, they would all scream "infidel" and attack together the atheist together...
So remember, theists of all forms hate us more than they hate each other.
Quote from: Cavebear on June 25, 2018, 12:00:30 AM
If you put a moslem, a jew and a christian in a closed room and gave them knives, they would circle around each other looking for a chance to kill. But if you then put an atheist into the room, they would all scream "infidel" and attack together the atheist together...
It's easier for them to accept you if you believe in some wacko thing, even it's the wrong wacko thing. Then at least they know you are receptive to conversion. This is why they are always trying to invent an atheist belief system, and asking questions like, "Well, what DO you believe in then?" Accepting things that cannot be proven is a cornerstone of good reliable gullibility.
Quote from: SGOS on June 25, 2018, 03:31:52 AM
It's easier for them to accept you if you believe in some wacko thing, even it's the wrong wacko thing. Then at least they know you are receptive to conversion. This is why they are always trying to invent an atheist belief system, and asking questions like, "Well, what DO you believe in then?" Accepting things that cannot be proven is a cornerstone of good reliable gullibility.
The "you must believe is something" is one of the things theists argue most. They just CAN'T grasp the idea of "not believing" as some matter of faith.
Getting theists to contemplate the idea of "not believing" is the rocky shore I keep hitting up against. It doesn't seem odd to ME, but they can't imagine it. And "imagine" is the key word there.
Quote from: SGOS on June 25, 2018, 03:31:52 AM
It's easier for them to accept you if you believe in some wacko thing, even it's the wrong wacko thing. Then at least they know you are receptive to conversion. This is why they are always trying to invent an atheist belief system, and asking questions like, "Well, what DO you believe in then?" Accepting things that cannot be proven is a cornerstone of good reliable gullibility.
Without gullibility, belief in things that can't be proven "new and improved" is the basis for consumerism, and popular politics.
Theists are like dogs, atheists are like cats ;-) Dogs have packs, cats don't. One blog created by a Canadian that I participated in years ago, was for secular humanism. Apparently most people like that don't do social media, because they aren't very social.
Proof? As in 2+2=4? Doesn't exist for most things people are actually interested in. Say ... 9/11 conspiracy? That is why people have "beliefs" about 9/11. This is very important for people like President Cheney.
Quote from: pr126 on June 14, 2018, 02:43:17 PM
Wow. Watch liberal heads explode.
Trump Nominated For Nobel Peace Price... By Norway (https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-06-13/trump-nominated-nobel-peace-price-norway)
I don't think he should accept if awarded.
I wouldn't want to be in the company or Yasser Arafat and 0bama. Have some dignity FFS.
Wait, did you mean "Norway" or "North Korea". They ARE close alphabetically...