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Title: Supreme Court Votes Against Worker's Rights
Post by: Shiranu on May 22, 2018, 05:05:10 PM
https://www.npr.org/2018/05/21/605012795/supreme-court-decision-delivers-blow-to-workers-rights


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In a case involving the rights of tens of millions of private sector employees, the U.S. Supreme Court, by a 5-4 vote, delivered a major blow to workers, ruling for the first time that workers may not band together to challenge violations of federal labor laws.
Writing for the majority, Justice Neil Gorsuch said that the 1925 Federal Arbitration Act trumps the National Labor Relations Act and that employees who sign employment agreements to arbitrate claims must do so on an individual basis — and may not band together to enforce claims of wage and hour violations.
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She noted that workers' claims are usually small, and many workers fear retaliation. For these reasons, she said, relatively few workers avail themselves of the arbitration option. On the other hand, these problems are largely solved by a class-action suit brought in court on behalf of many employees.
The inevitable result of Monday's decision, she warned, will be huge underenforcement of federal and state laws designed to advance the well-being of vulnerable workers. It is up to Congress, she added, to correct the court's action.
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Each required its individual employees, as a condition of employment, to waive their rights to join a class-action suit. In all three cases, employees tried to sue together, maintaining that the amounts they could obtain in individual arbitration were dwarfed by the legal fees they would have to pay. Ginsburg's dissent noted that a typical Ernst & Young employee would likely have to spend $200,000 to recover only about $1,900 in overtime pay.
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Employment lawyers were elated. Ron Chapman, who represents management in labor-management disputes, said he expects small and large businesses alike to immediately move to impose these binding arbitration contracts to eliminate the fear of costly class-action verdicts from juries. "It gives employers the green light to eliminate their single largest employment law risk with the stroke of a pen," he said.

Remember, it's the Catholics Muslims, the Communists "Socialists" (Progressives) and the anarchists "SJWs" we need to be afraid of! Any day now they will come and take all our rights away! They will ruin our economy! The threat is real, I tell you!!!!!

These mother fuckers were installed by Republicans. These dudes are the ones who vote against workers' rights, who voted for Citizens United (Corporations are "human beings" with the right to "free speech' (bribery), who voted to get rid of Voting Rights Act-era protections for low-income and minority voters, who voted against ACA and allowed states to op out (meaning literally thousands of people died and countless more suffered because of it), who voted in Connick vs Thompson that the prosecution department cannot be held responsible for wrongfully imprisoning someone even if the state illegally supresssess information proving their innocence... and so on.


These dudes were voted in because of YOUR ideology. That blood is on your hands, and I'm so fucking sick and tired of hearing about how your boogieman of some random ass woman teaching her child about consent is going to be the down fall of civilization. Ad hom? You deserve to be attacked as individuals, you people are fucking idiots if you really think SJW are whats going to destroy Western civilization while you further the rhetoric that leads to shit like this.
Title: Re: Supreme Court Votes Against Worker's Rights
Post by: Draconic Aiur on May 22, 2018, 05:27:34 PM
I keep on hearing this "you" when most of us here didn't want the strike off either. Shiranu is too left to care it seems.
Title: Re: Supreme Court Votes Against Worker's Rights
Post by: Shiranu on May 22, 2018, 05:32:11 PM
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I keep on hearing this "you" when most of us here didn't want the strike off either. Shiranu is too left to care it seems.

I really didn't think I was being subtle about who that point was aimed at...

Since it was apparently not blunt enough, I meant "you" as in the three or four people here who are obsessed with "the left" bringing about the end of the world while shouting the exact same rhetoric that got these people's bosses elected, that these people themselves shout.

Edit: I guess only two or three, since one finally jumped far enough into the deep end...
Title: Re: Supreme Court Votes Against Worker's Rights
Post by: Munch on May 22, 2018, 06:37:28 PM
Seems you were looking for something to use as fodder to argue against those few who call out the worst of the left here, rather then actually wanted to discuss the issue itself.

Think your lost on the fact those here who dislike the radical left aren't joining in the rights move, rather they would sooner question the worst sides of both these things, then just being complacent on one side.

I'm a brit, so have zero to do with whoever voted who in your elections over there, but I can easily see the issues both your political parties have and those following them.

your problem is, you are, completely one sided, your showing it here in your outrage that anyone who doesn't share your political dynamic is the enemy. I myself value a balance of both sides, and when one side goes to far over, you get what your raging about here, as well as what you seem to ignore fully by what you mentioned before on the left.

Sorry that things aren't as black and white for you as you want them to be.
Title: Re: Supreme Court Votes Against Worker's Rights
Post by: Shiranu on May 22, 2018, 06:43:38 PM
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Seems you were looking for something to use as fodder to argue against those few who call out the worst of the left here, rather then actually wanted to discuss the issue itself.

There is, frankly, nothing to discuss on this issue. I am more than happy to say there is wiggle room in social issues, economic issues, yada yada, but if you agree with the Supreme Court on this... you are wrong. Period. (Edit: Unless you are some type of big money corporate man, in which case... congrats on the W.)

I didn't post this to discuss it, I posted it to share it because it's not something I've seen talked about here on the forum or even on most media outlet even though it is one of the more sizable blows to worker rights I've seen in my lifetime. Again, I don't expect even you or someone like Gilga to be in favour of this, so there is nothing to discuss. Literally everyone here is going to agree it is a wrong move. There is nothing to discuss when everyone agrees, right?


Edit: Nah, it aint even worth addressing the rest. I'll let your hypocrisy speak for itself.
Title: Re: Supreme Court Votes Against Worker's Rights
Post by: Munch on May 22, 2018, 06:54:05 PM
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There is, frankly, nothing to discuss on this issue. I am more than happy to say there is wiggle room in social issues, economic issues, yada yada, but if you agree with the Supreme Court on this... you are wrong. Period.

(https://78.media.tumblr.com/49ee0e9199eb53f4ea22afb44b87cc7d/tumblr_o5n0dyDYE41tytut6o1_500.gif)

I never said I agreed with the court, seems you missed the point there.

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I didn't post this to discuss it, I posted it to share it because it's not something I've seen talked about here on the forum or even on most media outlet even though it is one of the more sizable blows to worker rights I've seen in my lifetime. Again, I don't expect even you or someone like Gilga to be in favour of this, so there is nothing to discuss. Literally everyone here is going to agree it is a wrong move.

okay.. then if you know that, why go on a tangent about trying to single people out as if their to blame, about their ideology?

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Edit: Nah, it aint even worth addressing the rest. I'll let your hypocrisy speak for itself.

okay.
Title: Re: Supreme Court Votes Against Worker's Rights
Post by: Shiranu on May 22, 2018, 07:04:41 PM
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I never said I agreed with the court, seems you missed the point there.

Never said you did. Seems you missed the point there.

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okay.. then if you know that, why go on a tangent about trying to single people out as if their to blame, about their ideology?

Because one ideology is responsible for the election of politicians who elected these Justices to the court.

Spoiler alert; it's the one you almost* exclusively side with when any political issue, and realistically every social issue, is brought up on the forum. It's the side centralist and leftists both said, "Yeah, you realise those guys are batshit, right?" and your side latched onto them anyways because, "They are against SJW boogiemen and Mooslims!".


*key word being almost; you are on the right side it seems when it comes to gun regulation, so 100% fair play to you on that.
Title: Re: Supreme Court Votes Against Worker's Rights
Post by: GSOgymrat on May 22, 2018, 07:09:12 PM
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I didn't post this to discuss it, I posted it to share it because it's not something I've seen talked about here on the forum or even on most media outlet even though it is one of the more sizable blows to worker rights I've seen in my lifetime.

When I saw this online I looked at some of the conservative media outlets for their take on this ruling. I didn't find much, for example, Fox News just copied the Associated Press report. Given that Trump wanted this ruling, I'm curious how Trump's working-class supporters will rationalize that using an arbitration service chosen by their employer to obtain their unpaid overtime is actually in their best interests.
Title: Re: Supreme Court Votes Against Worker's Rights
Post by: Shiranu on May 22, 2018, 07:26:50 PM
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When I saw this online I looked at some of the conservative media outlets for their take on this ruling. I didn't find much, for example, Fox News just copied the Associated Press report. Given that Trump wanted this ruling, I'm curious how Trump's working-class supporters will rationalize that using an arbitration service chosen by their employer to obtain their unpaid overtime is actually in their best interests.

Who knows? My guess is, at best, like everyone else they will be exposed to just the most absolutely basic headline about it and not really realise just how much it screws the working class over. Unless the Democrats held the Republicans feet to the fire over it, no one will remember it in two weeks, much less voting day... and I'm not going to hold my breath on the Dems growing a spine and fighting for what's right.
Title: Re: Supreme Court Votes Against Worker's Rights
Post by: Baruch on May 22, 2018, 08:23:33 PM
Back to the salt mines, peasants!

Do you expect lawyers, judges, politicians to have any sympathy for anyone who isn't just like them?  Remember the Dred Scott decision?  Yeah, SCOTUS hit the ball out of the early baseball park with that one.  Why have collective bargaining on teams?  Obvious collectivism designed to undermine the team owners.  Let the pro sports folks pick cotton in the off season?  Ever see the original Rollerball?
Title: Re: Supreme Court Votes Against Worker's Rights
Post by: Shiranu on May 22, 2018, 08:25:12 PM
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Do you expect lawyers, judges, politicians to have any sympathy for anyone who isn't just like them?

Yes.
Title: Re: Supreme Court Votes Against Worker's Rights
Post by: Baruch on May 22, 2018, 08:28:20 PM
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Yes.

Please don't grow up until you are 30, then report to the "birthday committee" at Logan's Run.

I hate the fact that life leads to cynicism.  But other than maniacs, I don't see anyone happy in the long run (see Marry Poppins uncle).
Title: Re: Supreme Court Votes Against Worker's Rights
Post by: Cavebear on May 25, 2018, 12:46:55 AM
Unless a more progressive Supreme Court comes to be, this pattern of eliminating the rights of workers will continue.  Rights of the working class will erode, protection of Companies will increase.

Suppose there was a sign on every road that said "Your use of this road constitutes an agreement that the State can search your house/car/person at any time for any reason".  You would drive on the road because you really have little choice.  That's the same as internet services agreements. 

You can't function in today's society without using those internet services.  You can either agree or go off grid completely.  It is time for a change to the laws about service agreements.
Title: Re: Supreme Court Votes Against Worker's Rights
Post by: Baruch on May 25, 2018, 07:46:51 AM
You aren't an owner?  Then you get no influence.  Got a vote?  Worthless drill thrall bait.

You are a debt slave now, you not only owe your own debt, you also owe the national debt, which has skyrocketed since 1971 (when Nixon screwed the universe).  Aren't wealthy enough to not work?  Yes, retirees are wealthy, if you don't work you don't eat.  So if you aren't wealthy you are a wage slave.  So chattel slavery will come back, but not racist ... everyone will be in chains, out in the hot sun, picking cotton, while still claiming how special they are, and what rights they have.  Except the wealthy.  Ever hear of latifundia in the Roman Empire?  Plantations with slaves, lots of slaves ... corporate farming without the modern machinery.  When the oil gets expensive, we will do agriculture by hand, as it was in the bad old days.
Title: Re: Supreme Court Votes Against Worker's Rights
Post by: Cavebear on May 25, 2018, 11:00:49 AM
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You aren't an owner?  Then you get no influence.  Got a vote?  Worthless drill thrall bait.

You are a debt slave now, you not only owe your own debt, you also owe the national debt, which has skyrocketed since 1971 (when Nixon screwed the universe).  Aren't wealthy enough to not work?  Yes, retirees are wealthy, if you don't work you don't eat.  So if you aren't wealthy you are a wage slave.  So chattel slavery will come back, but not racist ... everyone will be in chains, out in the hot sun, picking cotton, while still claiming how special they are, and what rights they have.  Except the wealthy.  Ever hear of latifundia in the Roman Empire?  Plantations with slaves, lots of slaves ... corporate farming without the modern machinery.  When the oil gets expensive, we will do agriculture by hand, as it was in the bad old days.

Man, you are one screwed-up son-of-a

Gun...  LOL!
Title: Re: Supreme Court Votes Against Worker's Rights
Post by: Baruch on May 25, 2018, 11:44:28 AM
And you are a very privileged White man ... not that there is anything wrong with that.  But realistic views of the human condition don't come from the bourgeoisie.
Title: Re: Supreme Court Votes Against Worker's Rights
Post by: Cavebear on May 25, 2018, 12:03:51 PM
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And you are a very privileged White man ... not that there is anything wrong with that.  But realistic views of the human condition don't come from the bourgeoisie.

As Phineas would say, "Yes, yes I am".

But fortunately, that does not disturb my connections to reality.  I have been very poor.  I have been beaten by police.  When there were not any minorities around, the police were happy to beat on white hippies like me.  Show an 18" ponytail and you are just as good a target.  And I kept that "freak flag" in spite of the State Police during demonstrations.

But reality intrudes.  I could cut off the ponytail. 
Title: Re: Supreme Court Votes Against Worker's Rights
Post by: Baruch on May 25, 2018, 06:14:44 PM
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As Phineas would say, "Yes, yes I am".

But fortunately, that does not disturb my connections to reality.  I have been very poor.  I have been beaten by police.  When there were not any minorities around, the police were happy to beat on white hippies like me.  Show an 18" ponytail and you are just as good a target.  And I kept that "freak flag" in spite of the State Police during demonstrations.

But reality intrudes.  I could cut off the ponytail.

That was long ago, I hope that isn't still happening to you.  But I think the subsequent 40 years of success ... make you a different person.  They did me, I am almost unrecognizable after 4 decades.
Title: Re: Supreme Court Votes Against Worker's Rights
Post by: Shiranu on May 25, 2018, 11:41:40 PM
Three more bills passed today by Trump that target unions and federal worker's rights...

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-signs-orders-targeting-federal-workers-union-activities-n877706
Title: Re: Supreme Court Votes Against Worker's Rights
Post by: Baruch on May 26, 2018, 12:23:54 AM
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Three more bills passed today by Trump that target unions and federal worker's rights...

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-signs-orders-targeting-federal-workers-union-activities-n877706

Color me surprised.  Remember, the US is the un-France.  We are also the un-England.  Chattel slavery coming soon.  Stay in shape, so you can tolerate the agricultural field work.  Remember, time in a Roman galley, helped Ben Hur develop pecs.
Title: Re: Supreme Court Votes Against Worker's Rights
Post by: Shiranu on May 26, 2018, 12:33:56 AM
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Color me surprised.  Remember, the US is the un-France.  We are also the un-England.  Chattel slavery coming soon.  Stay in shape, so you can tolerate the agricultural field work.  Remember, time in a Roman galley, helped Ben Hur develop pecs.

Oh, I hope to be long gone before it comes to that. Farmers' hunch aint sexy.
Title: Re: Supreme Court Votes Against Worker's Rights
Post by: pr126 on May 26, 2018, 06:08:42 AM
I’d vote for Bernie Sanders but he is too white. :(
Title: Re: Supreme Court Votes Against Worker's Rights
Post by: Baruch on May 26, 2018, 08:03:41 AM
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I’d vote for Bernie Sanders but he is too white. :(

Haha .. Jewish, so not White (for some folks).
Title: Re: Supreme Court Votes Against Worker's Rights
Post by: Unbeliever on May 26, 2018, 01:35:59 PM
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Three more bills passed today by Trump that target unions and federal worker's rights...

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-signs-orders-targeting-federal-workers-union-activities-n877706
This will make it easier for the GOP to reduce the size of the government to something that can be "drowned in a bathtub." And smaller is easier to control, since they need to maintain "a minimum level of worker insecurity." If federal workers don't tow the line they'll be out, and knowing that, they're much more tractable than they'd otherwise be.
Title: Re: Supreme Court Votes Against Worker's Rights
Post by: Baruch on May 26, 2018, 07:48:41 PM
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This will make it easier for the GOP to reduce the size of the government to something that can be "drowned in a bathtub." And smaller is easier to control, since they need to maintain "a minimum level of worker insecurity." If federal workers don't tow the line they'll be out, and knowing that, they're much more tractable than they'd otherwise be.

The GOP isn't against big government ... they are against any Democrat office holders, or Democrat leaning public servants.  George W sure shrunk the size of the government ;-)  Trump is also expanding it ... in both cases mostly secret wars of choice here, there, everywhere.

There is an extreme Libertarian lobby for sure, but they are tools, not rules.  Like liberal Blacks in the Democrat party.
Title: Re: Supreme Court Votes Against Worker's Rights
Post by: fencerider on May 28, 2018, 12:49:40 AM
O.P. what a fucked up place the U.S. is becoming Shiranu.

We fought the American Revolution to take the government out of the hands of the wealthy and put it in the hands of the working class. Everytime Congress or the court kisses Walll st ass they are violating their oath of office. The wealthy are not now, nor have they ever been a part of the people. To try to say that they are would be to change the definition that has been part of the English language hundreds of years before the creation of the U.S.

Sometimes the ideology of the Ds is stupid, but most of the ideology of the Rs comes straight from the anarchists of Kentucky, Tenessee, W Virginia... that didnt want to have any government telling them what to do. Not the Brits, not the US and not the government of any of the states.


Ohhhh its arbitration. That filthy word that I have hated since the first time I heard it. Gives corporations a free white wash to cover up their crimes.
Title: Re: Supreme Court Votes Against Worker's Rights
Post by: Cavebear on May 29, 2018, 05:46:37 AM
Well, I sort of look forward to a day when everyone everywhere is a sort of deep tan and skin color problems go away.
Title: Re: Supreme Court Votes Against Worker's Rights
Post by: Baruch on May 29, 2018, 06:56:34 AM
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Well, I sort of look forward to a day when everyone everywhere is a sort of deep tan and skin color problems go away.

There are a thousand other reasons to hate.  But skin color is one of the stupidest, I agree on that.  Polynesians supposedly have the most even skin color.  The San of S Africa are the oldest version of human, that is our common genetics right there ... yes, tan and curly dark hair.  Blondes are mutants.
Title: Re: Supreme Court Votes Against Worker's Rights
Post by: Cavebear on May 29, 2018, 07:01:31 AM
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There are a thousand other reasons to hate.  But skin color is one of the stupidest, I agree on that.  Polynesians supposedly have the most even skin color.  The San of S Africa are the oldest version of human, that is our common genetics right there ... yes, tan and curly dark hair.  Blondes are mutants.

Skin color is easily the most dividing concept for most of humanity.  Get rid of that, and the rest will be a LOT easier to deal with.

Title: Re: Supreme Court Votes Against Worker's Rights
Post by: Baruch on May 29, 2018, 07:05:06 AM
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Skin color is easily the most dividing concept for most of humanity.  Get rid of that, and the rest will be a LOT easier to deal with.

I love an optimist.
Title: Re: Supreme Court Votes Against Worker's Rights
Post by: Cavebear on May 29, 2018, 07:07:20 AM
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I love an optimist.

What difference do you think affects the prejudices of more people?
Title: Re: Supreme Court Votes Against Worker's Rights
Post by: Baruch on May 29, 2018, 07:09:02 AM
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What difference do you think affects the prejudices of more people?

Politics.  We more likely kill for that (and ideology its bastard father) than for anything else.  But even in primitive man, skin color differences are a problem, not just imperialists.  That and being unable to understand their language.  The second most is when you do understand their language, and realize they just called you a monkey's uncle.
Title: Re: Supreme Court Votes Against Worker's Rights
Post by: Cavebear on May 29, 2018, 07:25:45 AM
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Politics.  We more likely kill for that (and ideology its bastard father) than for anything else.  But even in primitive man, skin color differences are a problem, not just imperialists.  That and being unable to understand their language.  The second most is when you do understand their language, and realize they just called you a monkey's uncle.

Ah,  that's less than skin color.
Title: Re: Supreme Court Votes Against Worker's Rights
Post by: Baruch on May 29, 2018, 01:38:07 PM
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Ah,  that's less than skin color.

Only to a person obsessed with White guilt.  I am unprejudiced, I despise all people.
Title: Re: Supreme Court Votes Against Worker's Rights
Post by: Unbeliever on May 29, 2018, 02:15:46 PM
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Ohhhh its arbitration. That filthy word that I have hated since the first time I heard it. Gives corporations a free white wash to cover up their crimes.
Conservatives are always going on about welfare, but do they ever take corporate welfare (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_welfare) into consideration?


This, from Forbes, not exactly a bastion of liberalism:
Where Is The Outrage Over Corporate Welfare? (https://www.forbes.com/sites/taxanalysts/2014/03/14/where-is-the-outrage-over-corporate-welfare/#601766a427dd)

We allow corporations to milk dry the public coffers, and yet we can't afford to house the homeless, many of which simply are not mentally or physically able to make enough money to house themselves, especially in today's economy.
Title: Re: Supreme Court Votes Against Worker's Rights
Post by: Cavebear on May 29, 2018, 02:22:07 PM
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Conservatives are always going on about welfare, but do they ever take corporate welfare (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_welfare) into consideration?


This, from Forbes, not exactly a bastion of liberalism:
Where Is The Outrage Over Corporate Welfare? (https://www.forbes.com/sites/taxanalysts/2014/03/14/where-is-the-outrage-over-corporate-welfare/#601766a427dd)

We allow corporations to milk dry the public coffers, and yet we can't afford to house the homeless, many of which simply are not mentally or physically able to make enough money to house themselves, especially in today's economy.

Not when they are the recipients of the welfare.  It is time to end the corporation's sucking at the cash teat.
Title: Re: Supreme Court Votes Against Worker's Rights
Post by: Baruch on May 29, 2018, 07:11:10 PM
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Conservatives are always going on about welfare, but do they ever take corporate welfare (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_welfare) into consideration?


This, from Forbes, not exactly a bastion of liberalism:
Where Is The Outrage Over Corporate Welfare? (https://www.forbes.com/sites/taxanalysts/2014/03/14/where-is-the-outrage-over-corporate-welfare/#601766a427dd)

We allow corporations to milk dry the public coffers, and yet we can't afford to house the homeless, many of which simply are not mentally or physically able to make enough money to house themselves, especially in today's economy.

The purpose of the overlords is to loot.  Just ask Genghis Khan.  And no, voters don't allow anything.  If you protest (See Occupy) the authorities bring out the "Ukrainian sharpshooters" itching to create a false flag.  You know it is true.
Title: Re: Supreme Court Votes Against Worker's Rights
Post by: Cavebear on June 01, 2018, 12:02:57 AM
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The purpose of the overlords is to loot.  Just ask Genghis Khan.  And no, voters don't allow anything.  If you protest (See Occupy) the authorities bring out the "Ukrainian sharpshooters" itching to create a false flag.  You know it is true.

I can't recall being afraid of "Ukrainian Sharpshooters" lately.  "Russian bot farms" yes, but "Ukrainian Sharpshooters"?  What world do you live in anyway?
Title: Re: Supreme Court Votes Against Worker's Rights
Post by: fencerider on June 01, 2018, 01:15:52 AM
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Where Is The Outrage Over Corporate Welfare?

probably buried underneath a load of Fox Entertainment Center brain-washing.... I kinda remember Obama getting bitch-slapped when he said we should stop giving billions in subsidies to the oil-men.

personally I think the only welfare corporations should be getting is free casketts.
Title: Re: Supreme Court Votes Against Worker's Rights
Post by: Cavebear on June 01, 2018, 01:26:39 AM
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probably buried underneath a load of Fox Entertainment Center brain-washing.... I kinda remember Obama getting bitch-slapped when he said we should stop giving billions in subsidies to the oil-men.

personally I think the only welfare corporations should be getting is free casketts.

I kind of agree with you on that. 
Title: Re: Supreme Court Votes Against Worker's Rights
Post by: Baruch on June 01, 2018, 03:49:38 AM
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I can't recall being afraid of "Ukrainian Sharpshooters" lately.  "Russian bot farms" yes, but "Ukrainian Sharpshooters"?  What world do you live in anyway?

You know nothing of Occupy?  Were you hibernating then?  And yes, $46,000 in Russian Facebook ads, but nothing the R or D party did, is the key to the last election ;-)  See my latest post in this section.  Y'all have paranoia, and partisanship.  Stop this or there will be Civil War, Republicans against Democrats ... again.
Title: Re: Supreme Court Votes Against Worker's Rights
Post by: Baruch on June 01, 2018, 03:51:26 AM
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I kind of agree with you on that.

So, the business of America isn't business?  Well, what would beneficiaries (including me) of Fed budgets say?

Extreme R people would say that no government employee, or government contractor, or military person ... has ever worked a day.

Do corporations commit crimes?  Yes, but the basis of corporate law, is limited liability.  Similarly with government ... they have some protection while committing official acts, but can lose the next election.  With corporations, you can refuse to buy their products/services.  Except for banks ;-)
Title: Re: Supreme Court Votes Against Worker's Rights
Post by: GSOgymrat on June 11, 2018, 02:20:05 AM
Hmmm... should I post this? I mean what issue could anyone on this forum possibly have with a transgender woman citing Marx and criticizing capitalism?

https://youtu.be/gJW4-cOZt8A
Title: Re: Supreme Court Votes Against Worker's Rights
Post by: Cavebear on June 11, 2018, 02:25:26 AM
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Hmmm... should I post this? I mean what issue could anyone on this forum possibly have with a transgender woman citing Marx and criticizing capitalism?

https://youtu.be/gJW4-cOZt8A

Well, transgender Marxists ARE legally allowed to advertise products for sale.  Or are you against President Trump?
Title: Re: Supreme Court Votes Against Worker's Rights
Post by: Baruch on June 11, 2018, 06:13:06 AM
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Hmmm... should I post this? I mean what issue could anyone on this forum possibly have with a transgender woman citing Marx and criticizing capitalism?

https://youtu.be/gJW4-cOZt8A

Just the Marxism ... aside from free speech of course.  Criticizing capitalism is a no-brainer (double meaning).