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Title: This week in stupid, Royal wedding, Venezuela etc.
Post by: pr126 on May 21, 2018, 09:31:18 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AmUMcfwd3k
Title: Re: This week in stupid, Royal wedding, Venezuela etc.
Post by: Shiranu on May 21, 2018, 11:37:19 AM
For those of you interested in something you should actually be concerned about, here is this.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWQiXv0sn9Y
Title: Re: This week in stupid, Royal wedding, Venezuela etc.
Post by: Munch on May 21, 2018, 11:40:01 AM
Quote from: Shiranu on May 21, 2018, 11:37:19 AM
For those of you interested in something you should actually be concerned about, here is this.


Yep, its so important, that nobody outside of america can view it.

(https://i.imgur.com/dFRPz4L.jpg)
Title: Re: This week in stupid, Royal wedding, Venezuela etc.
Post by: Shiranu on May 21, 2018, 11:53:19 AM
Quote from: Munch on May 21, 2018, 11:40:01 AM
Yep, its so important, that nobody outside of america can view it.

(https://i.imgur.com/dFRPz4L.jpg)

Still oddly more relevant than his video, though...
Title: Re: This week in stupid, Royal wedding, Venezuela etc.
Post by: Munch on May 21, 2018, 12:02:54 PM
Quote from: Shiranu on May 21, 2018, 11:53:19 AM
Still oddly more relevant than his video, though...

thats the funny thing, because PR wasn't posting anything for relevance to anything besides just stuff happening, like in the videos case sargon talking about the royal wedding and things people said about it, which, actually is reverent since the wedding happening just now, so in that context is it relevant to that.

But yours was a retort with claim of having something more important to say, when it didn't say anything to anyone outside of the U.S, suggesting you think anyone should just listen to nothing, rather then current events.
Title: Re: This week in stupid, Royal wedding, Venezuela etc.
Post by: Baruch on May 21, 2018, 01:00:40 PM
This Sargon video was basically Sargon kvetching over SJW kvetching about the bride being African-American (partly true).  The other stuff around the wedding is how Prince Harry isn't the child of Prince Charles, and the bride's family, other than her mother, are terrible people.  Of course all Communism since 1917 would have worked out fine if it wasn't for the all powerful MI6 and CIA stopping these innocent worker's parties.

Shiranu's video was about rehab vs quitting cold turkey.  But the speaker is British, so it was relevant to the original view, at least in that respect.  Also the comedian spoke on corruption the drug testing and drug rehab business, vs a board certified physician helping you.
Title: Re: This week in stupid, Royal wedding, Venezuela etc.
Post by: pr126 on May 21, 2018, 01:16:20 PM
 What made the wedding sensational was the "diversity" the celebration of blackness.

Biracial marriage? How very 2018.
Why make such an issue of it? Well, it is fodder for the SJW crowd.
Because melanin content is the most important thing in the 21st century.

Trying hard not to be racist?
To quote Shakespeare " The lady doth protest too much, methinks"

Identity politics rules the world.

So yes, the post was relevant to today's zeitgeist.



Title: Re: This week in stupid, Royal wedding, Venezuela etc.
Post by: Shiranu on May 21, 2018, 01:31:38 PM
Considering I had to sit through a conversation of, and I quote, "Do you think their babies are going to be red-headed niggers?", I really don't buy that it's only the evil SJW making an issue of it.

But hey, maybe I'm wrong and things have shifted to the point that a question like that is something a SJW would ask. It's hard to keep up with your make believe friendemies.
Title: Re: This week in stupid, Royal wedding, Venezuela etc.
Post by: Shiranu on May 21, 2018, 01:38:51 PM
Quote from: Munch on May 21, 2018, 12:02:54 PM
thats the funny thing, because PR wasn't posting anything for relevance to anything besides just stuff happening, like in the videos case sargon talking about the royal wedding and things people said about it, which, actually is reverent since the wedding happening just now, so in that context is it relevant to that.

But yours was a retort with claim of having something more important to say, when it didn't say anything to anyone outside of the U.S, suggesting you think anyone should just listen to nothing, rather then current events.

I suppose relevant was the wrong word.

Let me try not ideological bullshit. That is more appropriate. Though that still implies that it is irrelevant since it is, well, bullshit. Ce la vie.


But my apologies, I should have just called a spade a spade from the beginning.
Title: Re: This week in stupid, Royal wedding, Venezuela etc.
Post by: Shiranu on May 21, 2018, 05:14:14 PM
If you have Twitter, I highly recommend hoping on and looking at the comments about the royal wedding and then tell me it's the left that makes an issue out of her biracial heritage...


And mind you, these are verified accounts, not just some randos, saying shit.
Title: Re: This week in stupid, Royal wedding, Venezuela etc.
Post by: Baruch on May 21, 2018, 06:50:06 PM
Quote from: pr126 on May 21, 2018, 01:16:20 PM
What made the wedding sensational was the "diversity" the celebration of blackness.

Biracial marriage? How very 2018.
Why make such an issue of it? Well, it is fodder for the SJW crowd.
Because melanin content is the most important thing in the 21st century.

Trying hard not to be racist?
To quote Shakespeare " The lady doth protest too much, methinks"

Identity politics rules the world.

So yes, the post was relevant to today's zeitgeist.

My, not educated about English royalty, are we?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlotte_of_Mecklenburg-Strelitz

Queen Charlotte, married to King George III ... was reputed to have a distant black ancestor thru her Portuguese ancestry.

Of course royal weddings, have been attended by non-White guests of the Empire/Commonwealth before.  Only people ignorant of history would make an issue of it.
Title: Re: This week in stupid, Royal wedding, Venezuela etc.
Post by: Sal1981 on May 21, 2018, 06:52:08 PM
Venezuela is a socialist shit-hole. Anyone there, get out while you can.
Title: Re: This week in stupid, Royal wedding, Venezuela etc.
Post by: Baruch on May 21, 2018, 06:59:46 PM
Quote from: Sal1981 on May 21, 2018, 06:52:08 PM
Venezuela is a socialist shit-hole. Anyone there, get out while you can.

Really just a people-shit hole.  It is people who make it so.  Socialism is just one of the many versions of flaming-sack-of-offal-ism.
Title: Re: This week in stupid, Royal wedding, Venezuela etc.
Post by: Shiranu on May 21, 2018, 07:36:35 PM
Quote from: Sal1981 on May 21, 2018, 06:52:08 PM
Venezuela is a socialist shit-hole. Anyone there, get out while you can.

While I doubt there are many people here from Venezuela, I will agree with you they should get out while they can (of course, that is alot easier said than done when you have no economy).

That said, socialism has literally next to nothing to do with Venezuela's failings.
Title: Re: This week in stupid, Royal wedding, Venezuela etc.
Post by: Munch on May 21, 2018, 08:15:02 PM
Quote from: Shiranu on May 21, 2018, 07:36:35 PM
While I doubt there are many people here from Venezuela, I will agree with you they should get out while they can (of course, that is alot easier said than done when you have no economy).

That said, socialism has literally next to nothing to do with Venezuela's failings.

might wanna back up your claims with evidence.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJqa-Z9Souc

I mean your someone who lives in a capitalist society and lives off the fruits of that, maybe listen to the actual people fleeing Venezuela on what socialism did to their society.
Title: Re: This week in stupid, Royal wedding, Venezuela etc.
Post by: Shiranu on May 21, 2018, 09:36:45 PM
Quote...I mean your someone who lives in a capitalist society...

Actually, the majority of my life is influenced more by socialist policies than capitalistic... so... *shrug*

From the video...

Quote...the more socialist a country is, the more likely it is to fail. That's really all you need to know.

Cool, so I am going to stop watching there because he told me to, and because that is just a blatantly false statement... unless you mean to tell me Canada, New Zealand, Australia, France, Portugal, Germany, the United Kingdom, Ireland, Iceland, Sweden, Norway, Switzerland, Finland, Netherlands, Belgium and a hand few more, which rank more democratic, more free, more economically equal, have stronger infrastructures, and so on and so forth, are all more likely to the collapse than the United States.

Also from Venezuelans... socialism also drastically improved the education and over-all health of it's citizens; so it's a bit weird how it is both the greatest evil and a great saviour, isn't it? It's almost like... stick with me here... more than one factor is required to cause the complete collapse of societies. It's almost like life isn't just black and white! Shocking!

- It couldn't possibly be the rampant corruption that spreads from top to bottom in Venezuela, a symptom that is not even remotely isolated to socialist states (see; Mexico, India, Pakistan, pretty much all of Africa and Latin America).

-It couldn't possibly be that instead of reigning in spending as oil prices dropped, Chavez and Maduro decided to increase spending and start printing more money, both increasing his debt and decreasing the value of his currency.

-It couldn't possibly be that Venezuela was economically sanctioned by the United States from having other countries buying off their debt, leaving them to deal with mostly just China and Russia by trading oil for loans and increasingly getting the shorter and shorter end of the stick.

-It couldn't possibly be that they are currently run by a psychopath dictator, which again... is not something that only socialist states are capable of having.

No, it can all be boiled down to one big, bad boogieman... the big, bag boogieman that is allowing you to type how evil it is and is allowing someone on the other side of the world to read it.

Irony.
Title: Re: This week in stupid, Royal wedding, Venezuela etc.
Post by: Shiranu on May 21, 2018, 09:40:10 PM
By the way, Venezuela's just as militantly socialist neighbour, Bolivia? Thriving. They invested their cash rather than blew it, and now their country is on the rise. Does that mean I think we should be like Bolivia? No, obviously. But could everyone learn from what they did right, regardless of if they are socialist or capitalist? Obviously, yes.

Again, it's almost like there are bigger factors involved than if a state identifies and capitalist or socialist since there is not a single country in the world that leans particularly far towards one or another...

...it's almost like that is just a big, bad boogieman from the Cold War to scare the little kiddies into voting for people who don't have their best interest in mind... hmmm...

(http://[url=https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c2/46/22/c24622008cc0a720b5a43a765882bd00.jpg%5Dhttps://i.pinimg.com/originals/c2/46/22/c24622008cc0a720b5a43a765882bd00.jpg%5B/url%5D)
Title: Re: This week in stupid, Royal wedding, Venezuela etc.
Post by: Baruch on May 21, 2018, 10:13:40 PM
Unfortunately there are not many ways to have a successful state, and many ways to make a failing state.  So on average, they fail.  There is a difference between socialism and dictatorship ... but sometimes not much.  I know that if I were Venezuelan, and Maduro did what he seems to have done, and Chavez before them ... I would be happy to see him and his supporters removed any way possible.  If only by violence, then by violence.  Pacifists only lose.  Because a majority of Germans supported Hitler (and tried to deny it afterward) ... that is why it was necessary to kill a lot of Germans.  Majority rule only works if the majority makes the right choices.
Title: Re: This week in stupid, Royal wedding, Venezuela etc.
Post by: Cavebear on May 22, 2018, 02:46:50 AM
Of all the events on Planet Earth, I think the news item of the very least concern to me was the British royalty wedding.  In fact, I thinking I was mowing the lawn while it happened.
Title: Re: This week in stupid, Royal wedding, Venezuela etc.
Post by: Sal1981 on May 22, 2018, 06:27:45 AM
Except Bolivia has sound policies, Venezuela is a failed state due to rampant corruption, cult of personality that has a literary totalitarian state undermining democracy.
Title: Re: This week in stupid, Royal wedding, Venezuela etc.
Post by: Cavebear on May 22, 2018, 07:22:57 AM
Quote from: Sal1981 on May 22, 2018, 06:27:45 AM
Except Bolivia has sound policies, Venezuela is a failed state due to rampant corruption, cult of personality that has a literary totalitarian state undermining democracy.

I sometimes think the best choice the US could make about SA (after all the horrible decades of messing it up) would be to help stabilize SA nations.  You have to start making up for the errors of the past somewhere).  You can't change the past, but you can improve the future.
Title: Re: This week in stupid, Royal wedding, Venezuela etc.
Post by: Shiranu on May 22, 2018, 07:26:01 AM
Quote from: Sal1981 on May 22, 2018, 06:27:45 AM
Except Bolivia has sound policies, Venezuela is a failed state due to rampant corruption, cult of personality that has a literary totalitarian state undermining democracy.

That's literally what I just said.
Title: Re: This week in stupid, Royal wedding, Venezuela etc.
Post by: Cavebear on May 22, 2018, 08:52:20 AM
Quote from: Shiranu on May 22, 2018, 07:26:01 AM
That's literally what I just said.

Yes, and having someone support your ideas is a GOOD thing, right?  Declare victory and be pleased,  LOL!
Title: Re: This week in stupid, Royal wedding, Venezuela etc.
Post by: Sal1981 on May 22, 2018, 10:15:22 AM
Quote from: Shiranu on May 22, 2018, 07:26:01 AM
That's literally what I just said.
Which would only be possible with a socialist state, that's my point. With real democracy, Maduro would've been booted last election.
Title: Re: This week in stupid, Royal wedding, Venezuela etc.
Post by: Cavebear on May 22, 2018, 10:40:45 AM
Quote from: Sal1981 on May 22, 2018, 10:15:22 AM
Which would only be possible with a socialist state, that's my point. With real democracy, Maduro would've been booted last election.

On the world stage, probaly no cares.  Well you.  But really, I dont...  Venusuela is not important.
Title: Re: This week in stupid, Royal wedding, Venezuela etc.
Post by: Shiranu on May 22, 2018, 11:05:13 AM
Quote from: Sal1981 on May 22, 2018, 10:15:22 AM
Which would only be possible with a socialist state, that's my point. With real democracy, Maduro would've been booted last election.

So corruption, cult of personality and totalitarianism is only possible in a socialist state...

Y'all dudes be getting ridiculous.
Title: Re: This week in stupid, Royal wedding, Venezuela etc.
Post by: Baruch on May 22, 2018, 08:44:27 PM
Quote from: Sal1981 on May 22, 2018, 10:15:22 AM
Which would only be possible with a socialist state, that's my point. With real democracy, Maduro would've been booted last election.

Voters are alway stupid, even if you have real democracy.
Title: Re: This week in stupid, Royal wedding, Venezuela etc.
Post by: Baruch on May 22, 2018, 08:45:44 PM
Quote from: Sal1981 on May 22, 2018, 06:27:45 AM
Except Bolivia has sound policies, Venezuela is a failed state due to rampant corruption, cult of personality that has a literary totalitarian state undermining democracy.

Venezuela = USA  ... it can't fail soon enough!
Title: Re: This week in stupid, Royal wedding, Venezuela etc.
Post by: Baruch on May 22, 2018, 08:46:28 PM
Quote from: Cavebear on May 22, 2018, 10:40:45 AM
On the world stage, probaly no cares.  Well you.  But really, I dont...  Venusuela is not important.

They have the other tar sands supply, other than Canada.  But then, you don't drive or heat or ...
Title: Re: This week in stupid, Royal wedding, Venezuela etc.
Post by: Gilgamesh on May 24, 2018, 05:41:40 AM
Quote from: Shiranu on May 21, 2018, 09:36:45 PM
Actually, the majority of my life is influenced more by socialist policies than capitalistic... so... *shrug*

We've had this conversation before, and it always boils down to semantics. 'Social policy' has no correlation with 'socialism.'

The capitalism you live in has social policies. This doesn't make it a combination of socialism and capitalism. As long as you understand this then there's no problem.

SOCIALISM is when the government (the people) seize the means of production from private entities, and install legislation to artificially control the economy. Socialism can exist without granting any social services.

So you can sit there and argue that social policies are good. Go ahead. Some are; some aren't.

But SOCIALISM causes misery everywhere it rears its ugly head.

Quote from: Shiranu on May 21, 2018, 07:36:35 PM
socialism has literally next to nothing to do with Venezuela's failings.

(https://memestatic3.fjcdn.com/comments/Finally+i+know+the+source+_fd087443072897c399447470b5fccdcc.jpg)
Title: Re: This week in stupid, Royal wedding, Venezuela etc.
Post by: Sal1981 on May 24, 2018, 05:55:55 AM
Quote from: Shiranu on May 22, 2018, 11:05:13 AM
So corruption, cult of personality and totalitarianism is only possible in a socialist state...

Y'all dudes be getting ridiculous.
This is, almost equally, also possible in a fascist state. You're reading too much into my reply.

It's the elements of totalitarianism which is the deciding factor, which, as I said, wouldn't be nearly as easy in a democracy, because the incompetent leaders would be booted out in an election. But since Maduro has taken control of both the legislative and government parts of the country, Venezuelans are shit out of luck.
Title: Re: This week in stupid, Royal wedding, Venezuela etc.
Post by: Gilgamesh on May 24, 2018, 05:58:14 AM
Further expounding:

Capitalism and socialism are purely economic models. They are mutually exclusive models at that. That is; they cannot exist amongst one another; if you have one then it is necessarily the case that you don't have the other.

Shiranu, you ceaselessly attempt to conflate social policies with socialism. You seem to think that the more social policies a state has, the more socialist it is. This is not the case. Socialism is an economic model ONLY. A capitalist economy with social services and mild market regulation is still capitalism. As long as private entities can control capital then it is capitalistic, and if its capitalistic it is necessarily NOT socialist.

You've been propagandized to to be sympathetic to a tried-and-failed ideology. The specter of socialism and communism are going to be with us seemingly forever, unfortunately, because telling people that it's not necessary that they work to sustain themselves - and that the idea that it is is just conspiracy by people better off to keep you down, is a very satisfying thing to believe.
Title: Re: This week in stupid, Royal wedding, Venezuela etc.
Post by: Shiranu on May 24, 2018, 07:24:55 AM
Yes, we have already had this debate, and you lost; you are completely right it's semantics, and it's the semantics of the day. Socialism means something today that it didn't, say, 50 years ago. That's how language works. The fact that I am a socialist by today's standards does not remotely make me sympathetic of communism-style socialism, or far-left socialism.
Title: Re: This week in stupid, Royal wedding, Venezuela etc.
Post by: Gilgamesh on May 24, 2018, 07:53:19 AM
Quote from: Shiranu on May 24, 2018, 07:24:55 AM
Yes, we have already had this debate, and you lost; you are completely right it's semantics, and it's the semantics of the day. Socialism means something today that it didn't, say, 50 years ago. That's how language works. The fact that I am a socialist by today's standards does not remotely make me sympathetic of communism-style socialism, or far-left socialism.

I don't think you understand what I'm saying. As long as you understand that social policies and government control of the economy/means of production are not necessarily correlated, then you're fine. I would disagree with you that the terminology has changed, because I think that the vast majority of people use the language as I do and not as you do, but that's fine if we disagree here as long as we understand what the other is actually talking about despite using different language to understand it.
Title: Re: This week in stupid, Royal wedding, Venezuela etc.
Post by: Gilgamesh on May 24, 2018, 07:55:25 AM
Now personally I think you conflate the language for malicious reasons; I think that you are actively conflating social policy and socialism because you have sympathies with socialism (as in the economic model) and want to convince others to support your cause in ignorance.

But hey this is just conjecture.
Title: Re: This week in stupid, Royal wedding, Venezuela etc.
Post by: Cavebear on May 25, 2018, 02:12:00 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 24, 2018, 07:55:25 AM
Now personally I think you conflate the language for malicious reasons; I think that you are actively conflating social policy and socialism because you have sympathies with socialism (as in the economic model) and want to convince others to support your cause in ignorance.

But hey this is just conjecture.

I personally disagree that Capitalism and Socialism are mutually opposing models.  Many Western European nations are both, and the US is getting closer.  The basic function of government being to both "provide for the general welfare of the citizens" and "the pursuit of happiness" (in a vague way) allows both.  I want a government that allows citizens to create wealth through business (examples abound), but also care for those who cannot manage the system (and more importantly, help their children who are innocent of their parents' failures). 

I mostly will not condemn the children to the failures of their parents.  And to do that requires some degree of socialism.  We who are successful, transfer some of our wealth to schools (and lunch programs - what child can learn well when hungry?) to give the children an opportunity to succeed. 

And what functional society intends to reduce the number of children who might succeed.  History is full of poverty-stricken individuals who "made good".  I sure don't want to reduce the number of those.  Do you?

Title: Re: This week in stupid, Royal wedding, Venezuela etc.
Post by: Baruch on May 25, 2018, 08:33:57 AM
How can you pick the winners from the losers?  Japanese industrial selection policy failed with computers.  The bureaucrats aren't smart enough, in Japan or in the USSR.
Title: Re: This week in stupid, Royal wedding, Venezuela etc.
Post by: Gilgamesh on May 25, 2018, 10:46:01 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on May 25, 2018, 02:12:00 AM
I want a government that allows citizens to create wealth through business (examples abound), but also care for those who cannot manage the system (and more importantly, help their children who are innocent of their parents' failures). 

Yeah, so does everyone.

And that model is called capitalism. Capitalism doesn't become less capitalism, or more socialism, because it installs social policies. If private entities can control capital, then the society is capitalist state. End of. If the government controls the capital, it is a socialist state. End of. Both things cannot exist together.

When I say socialism, I'm referring to the economic model of socialism. If you want to call capitalism with social policies socialism; go ahead, but be aware that we are using the terms different, and are talking about different things.
Title: Re: This week in stupid, Royal wedding, Venezuela etc.
Post by: Cavebear on May 25, 2018, 11:18:07 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 25, 2018, 10:46:01 AM
Yeah, so does everyone.

And that model is called capitalism. Capitalism doesn't become less capitalism, or more socialism, because it installs social policies. If private entities can control capital, then the society is capitalist state. End of. If the government controls the capital, it is a socialist state. End of. Both things cannot exist together.

When I say socialism, I'm referring to the economic model of socialism. If you want to call capitalism with social policies socialism; go ahead, but be aware that we are using the terms different, and are talking about different things.

You are limiting yourself.  Dualities can exist comfortably.  Capitalism and Socialism are not mutually exclusive.  For example, I do not need social services in general.  Not now.  But I did once when I was fired from a job at a tire warehouse for falling 25 feet  retrieving tires on idiotically tall palletts in a 100F warehouse.  Fortunately for ME (and the company) I landed on a pile of tires.   No harm, no foul, right.  They fired me on the spot.  I wasn't enough of a gymnist.

Now about the term "socialism"...  There is really only one definition as YOU describe it.  You think of it as "communism" (and even THAT term is suspect given what Marx and Engel actually wrote...). 

What you are objecting to is "welfare".  You know, "The Caddilac Queens".  The guys getting paid to stand on the street corners and pass cheap beer around among "themsefs".  "Yeah, I be on da wefare"  Like that, right?

That's not how it is.

I expect a thoughtful hit.  If you can.
Title: Re: This week in stupid, Royal wedding, Venezuela etc.
Post by: Gilgamesh on May 25, 2018, 11:24:18 AM
That's cavebear for ya'.
Title: Re: This week in stupid, Royal wedding, Venezuela etc.
Post by: Baruch on May 25, 2018, 11:46:03 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 25, 2018, 10:46:01 AM
Yeah, so does everyone.

And that model is called capitalism. Capitalism doesn't become less capitalism, or more socialism, because it installs social policies. If private entities can control capital, then the society is capitalist state. End of. If the government controls the capital, it is a socialist state. End of. Both things cannot exist together.

When I say socialism, I'm referring to the economic model of socialism. If you want to call capitalism with social policies socialism; go ahead, but be aware that we are using the terms different, and are talking about different things.

Fabian socialism (look them up) are the gateway drug to Stalinism.  They aren't innocent, just patient.
Title: Re: This week in stupid, Royal wedding, Venezuela etc.
Post by: Cavebear on May 25, 2018, 11:57:50 AM
Quote from: Baruch on May 25, 2018, 11:46:03 AM
Fabian socialism (look them up) are the gateway drug to Stalinism.  They aren't innocent, just patient.

I did, and the name of the society is derived from the Roman general Fabius Cunctator, whose patient and elusive tactics in avoiding pitched battles secured his ultimate victory over stronger forces. 

A good general...  More tactics like him would result in more living soldiers.  Or perhaps they study him to good effect.
Title: Re: This week in stupid, Royal wedding, Venezuela etc.
Post by: Baruch on May 25, 2018, 06:53:52 PM
Quote from: Cavebear on May 25, 2018, 11:57:50 AM
I did, and the name of the society is derived from the Roman general Fabius Cunctator, whose patient and elusive tactics in avoiding pitched battles secured his ultimate victory over stronger forces. 

A good general...  More tactics like him would result in more living soldiers.  Or perhaps they study him to good effect.

The British Fabians porned the Cuntator's good name.  He should sue them.

Britain is different, because it isn't France and it isn't the US.  The Brits are too sluggish to have a revolution, so they changed in slow motion ;-)
Title: Re: This week in stupid, Royal wedding, Venezuela etc.
Post by: Cavebear on May 29, 2018, 02:10:29 AM
Quote from: Baruch on May 25, 2018, 06:53:52 PM
The British Fabians porned the Cuntator's good name.  He should sue them.

Britain is different, because it isn't France and it isn't the US.  The Brits are too sluggish to have a revolution, so they changed in slow motion ;-)

Yeah, most western nations had violent revolutions.  The Brits just industrialized and got a better outcome.  LOL!
Title: Re: This week in stupid, Royal wedding, Venezuela etc.
Post by: Baruch on May 29, 2018, 08:45:33 PM
Quote from: Cavebear on May 29, 2018, 02:10:29 AM
Yeah, most western nations had violent revolutions.  The Brits just industrialized and got a better outcome.  LOL!

That remains to be seen.  The present Queen is a descendent of the Dracula family.  Violent revolutions are just the modern name for peasant revolts.  Happened all thru history.  And the peasants always lost in the end.