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Title: It's all about consent.
Post by: pr126 on May 20, 2018, 01:00:24 PM
Dear Dog, what the hell?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIv4VGtgrKU
Title: Re: It's all about consent.
Post by: Mermaid on May 20, 2018, 01:11:39 PM
What a piece of dog shit.
Title: Re: It's all about consent.
Post by: Emancipated on May 20, 2018, 01:45:16 PM
My brain hurts.
Title: Re: It's all about consent.
Post by: Mermaid on May 20, 2018, 01:46:50 PM
Quote from: Emancipated on May 20, 2018, 01:45:16 PM
My brain hurts.
Mine leaked out of my ears and ran down my shirt.
Title: Re: It's all about consent.
Post by: Shiranu on May 20, 2018, 01:58:52 PM
"I like women..."

Stopped watching there, because I know he was going to follow it up with a, "...but...".

That, and if you have to clarify that you like women, you probably don't like women.
Title: Re: It's all about consent.
Post by: Munch on May 20, 2018, 02:33:51 PM
Quote from: Shiranu on May 20, 2018, 01:58:52 PM
"I like women..."

Stopped watching there, because I know he was going to follow it up with a, "...but...".

That, and if you have to clarify that you like women, you probably don't like women.

I don't like women.....


.. who are complete idiots. The same as I don't like men who are complete idiots.

See how that works.

Why bother posting a reply if your not going to add something to the subject?

As it stands, yes, this woman is a fucking idiot. Children at the age they need diapers are not able to make informed consent to needing it changed, so she is just trying to push some bullshit narrative and agenda.

But of course you missed the context of what he was saying and closed the video early, so let me make it clear. He was making a joke. The context of that joke is because the organisation this woman represents is about indoctrinated young male minds into thinking theres something wrong with them as a young age, he made a joke at their expense.

Basically, he is calling out this woman for being one of these people that fucked with young minds with messed up social issues, and doing so by making light of her gender. But you just think he's sexist just from the off because you didn't look further into it.
Title: Re: It's all about consent.
Post by: Baruch on May 20, 2018, 03:27:33 PM
Leftists (sociopaths) look for any angle they can, in their goal to suicide society.  Robespierre is proud of them.
Title: Re: It's all about consent.
Post by: Shiranu on May 20, 2018, 05:13:50 PM
QuoteWhy bother posting a reply if your not going to add something to the subject?

Assuming the subject of this thread is the video posted in OP, I did.

QuoteBut you just think he's sexist just from the off because you didn't look further into it.

Mate, I don't think anything about him. I literally said I didn't watch the video because he started off on a negative tone and aint nobody got time for 12 minutes of dat. I'm not going to have an opinion on a guy I literally saw 3 seconds of and will never see again in my life.
Title: Re: It's all about consent.
Post by: Munch on May 20, 2018, 06:36:06 PM
Quote from: Shiranu on May 20, 2018, 05:13:50 PM

Mate, I don't think anything about him. I literally said I didn't watch the video because he started off on a negative tone and aint nobody got time for 12 minutes of dat. I'm not going to have an opinion on a guy I literally saw 3 seconds of and will never see again in my life.

"Stopped watching there, because I know he was going to follow it up with a, "...but...".

That, and if you have to clarify that you like women, you probably don't like women."


You formed an opinion of the guy based on just a few seconds.
Title: Re: It's all about consent.
Post by: Poison Tree on May 20, 2018, 06:44:41 PM
It's worse than you think:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60vnM4mZfTA
Asking a two month old how it is and 'what's the matter'. What an idiot. We all know two month olds can't talk. She's clearly trying to push some disgusting agenda.
Title: Re: It's all about consent.
Post by: Munch on May 20, 2018, 06:48:12 PM
Talking to a baby is good, its healthy and helps them learn as well as gives them comfort.

The woman in the op video is asking babies to give a form of consent at that age. They don't have the mental capacity to respond to such questions. Its like asking a dog to find a number in a phone book.
Title: Re: It's all about consent.
Post by: Poison Tree on May 20, 2018, 07:35:44 PM
Quote from: Munch on May 20, 2018, 06:48:12 PM
Talking to a baby is good, its healthy and helps them learn as well as gives them comfort.

The woman in the op video is asking babies to give a form of consent at that age. They don't have the mental capacity to respond to such questions. Its like asking a dog to find a number in a phone book.
Actually, she's talking about ways to "build skills around body awareness and personal boundaries". Out of curiosity, how many seconds of Deanne Carson's interview did you actually watch before forming your opinion?
Title: Re: It's all about consent.
Post by: Munch on May 20, 2018, 08:13:58 PM
Quote from: Poison Tree on May 20, 2018, 07:35:44 PM
Actually, she's talking about ways to "build skills around body awareness and personal boundaries". Out of curiosity, how many seconds of Deanne Carson's interview did you actually watch before forming your opinion?

enough to want to peal off my skin and roll around in salt. And what horseshit, "build skills around body awareness and personal boundaries", have you ever even spent time with a child? I've been around my nephews often since they were babies, children develop there own feelings from normal interactions with their family, and this bullshit of 'teaching personal boundaries' sounds like someone whos never even looked after children would think up.
And 'Body awareness', there as never been a time in any growing childs like they don't stop figuring things out and asking questions, at which stage to teach them in a way they can understand.

This shit reminds me of rugrats, such a brilliant cartoon, but in it there was a recurring joke of Tomies mother Didi quoting lipschitz, who turned out to be clueless about children and just wrote stuff academically instead of spending time with children, showing himself up as a fraud. 
Title: Re: It's all about consent.
Post by: Shiranu on May 20, 2018, 08:45:55 PM
*sigh*

Okay, so I'll watch through as much of the video as I can bear, but I do have to bring up one thing before I get to it...

To clarify why his remark is so sketch... if a gay guy does something that annoys me, I don't feel the need to clarify that, "I love the gays, but this gay did something that makes me question if you gays deserve to be taken seriously.". Replace gay with male, female, black, white, tall, short, whatever...

That shit just doesn't cross my mind. There is absolutely zero reason it should cross your mind, particularly if you are talking about an individual's actions that doesn't even have to do with their identity, to make sure everyone knows you aren't sexist unless you think the shit you are about to say is quite possibly a tadbit sexist, or racist, or homophobic, or whatever.

Title: Re: It's all about consent.
Post by: Shiranu on May 20, 2018, 08:56:16 PM
Okay, yeah, 4 minutes in and I am good.

He may or may not be sexist, but he certainly a hateful and toxic individual who talks alot about something he apparently knows little about. I mean, he literally plays the clips before talking about them and still gets what is being said wrong... and you want me to take him seriously?

You honestly don't see the irony in you constantly preaching about how everyone who disagrees with you are all just a bunch of ideologues who just blindly follow what their side tell them to, and then nod your head with this fellow and all the other drivel pr feeds you?

I want to say that is just the kettle calling the pot black, but that seems like too much of an understatement to really convey just how hypocritical you consistently are on "left vs right" issues, and then you want to say you are in the centre.

Come on.

Hateful is not "the centre". It is just hateful.
Title: Re: It's all about consent.
Post by: Baruch on May 20, 2018, 09:08:05 PM
Quote from: Munch on May 20, 2018, 08:13:58 PM
enough to want to peal off my skin and roll around in salt. And what horseshit, "build skills around body awareness and personal boundaries", have you ever even spent time with a child? I've been around my nephews often since they were babies, children develop there own feelings from normal interactions with their family, and this bullshit of 'teaching personal boundaries' sounds like someone whos never even looked after children would think up.
And 'Body awareness', there as never been a time in any growing childs like they don't stop figuring things out and asking questions, at which stage to teach them in a way they can understand.

This shit reminds me of rugrats, such a brilliant cartoon, but in it there was a recurring joke of Tomies mother Didi quoting lipschitz, who turned out to be clueless about children and just wrote stuff academically instead of spending time with children, showing himself up as a fraud.

Dr Spock (the pediatrician) destroyed the baby boomer generation.  Like the Pope preaching about marriage.  Did Dr Kinsey ever have sex himself?  Or was he a wack job like Dr Kellogg?

Academics ... the very basis of pseudo-intellectualism.
Title: Re: It's all about consent.
Post by: Baruch on May 20, 2018, 09:09:37 PM
Quote from: Munch on May 20, 2018, 06:48:12 PM
Talking to a baby is good, its healthy and helps them learn as well as gives them comfort.

The woman in the op video is asking babies to give a form of consent at that age. They don't have the mental capacity to respond to such questions. Its like asking a dog to find a number in a phone book.

Speaking to the baby, converts the general ability to make vocal sounds, into the native language of the parents, preparing the toddler to learn vocabulary (grammar comes much later).  Keeping a baby in silence would be chid abuse.  An ancient Pharaoh supposedly did this as an anthropology experiment.  The neglected baby's first word was something that sounded like "bread" in Phrygian, so they concluded that Phrygian was the oldest language.
Title: Re: It's all about consent.
Post by: Poison Tree on May 20, 2018, 09:49:18 PM
Quote from: Munch on May 20, 2018, 08:13:58 PM
have you ever even spent time with a child?
Yes, I also have a nephew, who I see practically every day.

I assume you've fed your nephews from time to time and I'm sure there were times when they didn't actually want to eat. Now babies need to eat and are not able to make informed consent, but somehow I doubt force fed them, right? If you are rough-housing or tickling and they tell you to stop, I assume that you comply. Even before they could talk, kicking and crying likely got their point across just fine. Guess what; consent.

It's fundamentally the same thing. When my nephew was younger and I'd say "ok, were going to go into the other room and change your diaper" if he'd scream "no" or, before he could talk, cry and kick I'd say "that's ok, I'll check back in in a couple minutes". You know, once it took 10 whole minutes until he was ready to go (a far cry from the fictional filthy feminist baby  (https://www.huzlers.com/feminist-didnt-change-daughters-diapers-for-weeks-because-she-didnt-give-consent/)). Now I ask him if he needs to go potty and remind him to stop and go right away (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yivu8jjQcdw), but I've never forced him to go use the potty, nor have I needed to.

It is true, of course, that he dosen't get full bodily autonomy: I wouldn't let him jump in the river on his second birthday, he's not allowed to throw hard objects, ect. But there is no reason that talking to a baby about changing its diaper and teaching it that its response matters should draw the slippery-slope collapse of civilization moral panic I've seen on twitter. Unlike the OP video, I don't feel compelled to "imagine" what other horrors Carson may peddling in conjunction with the villainous respectful relationship curriculum


I don't know why the video showed up instead of a URL hyperlink like the article, and I'm too lazy to figure it out. Looked fine when I hit 'preview'
Title: Re: It's all about consent.
Post by: Jason Harvestdancer on May 21, 2018, 11:09:37 PM
As a father of two, I can say that lady is more full of shit than a nappy of a baby that won't consent.
Title: Re: It's all about consent.
Post by: Cavebear on May 22, 2018, 04:38:10 AM
Quote from: Jason Harvestdancer on May 21, 2018, 11:09:37 PM
As a father of two, I can say that lady is more full of shit than a nappy of a baby that won't consent.

When I was 16 and the eldest of 3 children, my mother suddenly produced a 4th.  I bet I've changed more diapers than some husbands...
Title: Re: It's all about consent.
Post by: Munch on May 22, 2018, 06:10:01 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on May 22, 2018, 04:38:10 AM
When I was 16 and the eldest of 3 children, my mother suddenly produced a 4th.  I bet I've changed more diapers than some husbands...

And did you ask them at any time if its okay to do so?
Title: Re: It's all about consent.
Post by: Cavebear on May 22, 2018, 07:31:55 AM
Quote from: Munch on May 22, 2018, 06:10:01 AM
And did you ask them at any time if its okay to do so?

Actually, so far as I understood at the time, I had little to do with the production of my younger siblings.  But I WAS a good child-sitter.  The responsible type, ya know?

If you meant "was it OK to change diapers"?  I'm pretty sure my parents never objected.  And that was before "disposable diapers".  Let's just say "it was all right there in front of me and I got used to poop.
Title: Re: It's all about consent.
Post by: Munch on May 22, 2018, 12:38:20 PM
Quote from: Cavebear on May 22, 2018, 07:31:55 AM
Actually, so far as I understood at the time, I had little to do with the production of my younger siblings.  But I WAS a good child-sitter.  The responsible type, ya know?

If you meant "was it OK to change diapers"?  I'm pretty sure my parents never objected.  And that was before "disposable diapers".  Let's just say "it was all right there in front of me and I got used to poop.

no no, I mean, did you actually ask them, your baby siblings, if it was okay to change their diapers? Because if you didn't, your a horrible human bearing.
Title: Re: It's all about consent.
Post by: aitm on May 22, 2018, 12:44:34 PM
Quote from: Baruch on May 20, 2018, 09:08:05 PM
Dr Spock (the pediatrician) destroyed the baby boomer generation. 

More like he destroyed the children of the boomer generation.
Title: Re: It's all about consent.
Post by: Emancipated on May 22, 2018, 12:53:39 PM
Quote from: Munch on May 20, 2018, 06:36:06 PM
"Stopped watching there, because I know he was going to follow it up with a, "...but...".

That, and if you have to clarify that you like women, you probably don't like women."


You formed an opinion of the guy based on just a few seconds.
It took me less than a few seconds to form an opinion of him.
Title: Re: It's all about consent.
Post by: Baruch on May 22, 2018, 08:52:29 PM
Quote from: aitm on May 22, 2018, 12:44:34 PM
More like he destroyed the children of the boomer generation.

That was Mr Spock ... the folks who didn't watch Star Trek Classic, never realized they can't choose to be Vulcan.
Title: Re: It's all about consent.
Post by: Cavebear on May 25, 2018, 03:38:50 AM
Quote from: Munch on May 22, 2018, 12:38:20 PM
no no, I mean, did you actually ask them, your baby siblings, if it was okay to change their diapers? Because if you didn't, your a horrible human bearing.

Well, they weren't good at talking at the time.  And they did fill their diapers pretty consistently.  Their health concerns pretty much over-rode any objections their baby-bunny-level minds had at the time.
Title: Re: It's all about consent.
Post by: Munch on May 25, 2018, 07:58:34 PM
Quote from: Cavebear on May 25, 2018, 03:38:50 AM
Well, they weren't good at talking at the time.  And they did fill their diapers pretty consistently.  Their health concerns pretty much over-rode any objections their baby-bunny-level minds had at the time.

(https://steemitimages.com/0x0/http://i.imgur.com/GOzGy5S.jpg)

This here is the response any sane, rational person should have when it comes to looking after children, not some air headed pink muff twat wanting to apply her failed social science degree to children while not having any herself.
Title: Re: It's all about consent.
Post by: Cavebear on May 29, 2018, 09:03:41 AM
Did I just get an award?
Title: Re: It's all about consent.
Post by: Munch on May 29, 2018, 02:30:39 PM
Quote from: Cavebear on May 29, 2018, 09:03:41 AM
Did I just get an award?

yes, a lifetime supply of bear food.

Bears eat grass right?
Title: Re: It's all about consent.
Post by: Cavebear on May 29, 2018, 02:37:31 PM
Quote from: Munch on May 29, 2018, 02:30:39 PM
yes, a lifetime supply of bear food.

Bears eat grass right?

Well, a lot of baked chicken thighs with lemon quarters and green olives actually.  Pork stew.  An occasional delmonico steak smother in mushrooms.  And a fair helping of red zinfandel...
Title: Re: It's all about consent.
Post by: Munch on May 29, 2018, 02:41:39 PM
Quote from: Cavebear on May 29, 2018, 02:37:31 PM
Well, a lot of baked chicken thighs with lemon quarters and green olives actually.  Pork stew.  An occasional delmonico steak smother in mushrooms.  And a fair helping of red zinfandel...

Ha, could have fooled me!

(http://cdn.c.photoshelter.com/img-get/I00005HeOIQR_I0Q/s/750/750/PFB-20100520-6695.jpg)
Title: Re: It's all about consent.
Post by: Cavebear on May 29, 2018, 02:45:50 PM
Quote from: Munch on May 29, 2018, 02:41:39 PM
Ha, could have fooled me!

(http://cdn.c.photoshelter.com/img-get/I00005HeOIQR_I0Q/s/750/750/PFB-20100520-6695.jpg)

That's my black bear cousin.  I'm a cave bear  (Ursus spelaeus).  Need a more balanced diet.  Have a deer sitting around uneaten?  And a bushel of blueberries?