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Title: Hate speech in Britain ...
Post by: Baruch on May 11, 2018, 12:58:22 PM
"proposing prison sentences of between 26 weeks and six years for social media posts deemed hostile toward a race, religion or sexual identity."

Of course they recently did this to Count Dankula.  Will pr126 be in prison soon?

They enforce hate speech against those opposed to Islam and the Tories, but not against those opposed to Christianity or Labor.  This is what happens when you have no written constitution, when you burn the Magna Carta.
Title: Re: Hate speech in Britain ...
Post by: pr126 on May 11, 2018, 01:06:47 PM
I am convinced that only one religion will be protected.
No prizes for guessing it. 
Title: Re: Hate speech in Britain ...
Post by: Baruch on May 11, 2018, 01:08:00 PM
Quote from: pr126 on May 11, 2018, 01:06:47 PM
I am convinced that only one religion will be protected.
No prizes for guessing it.

See, Wilson's War backfired.  The West used Jihadis to destroy the East.  But now the East wants revenge, so they are using our MO.
Title: Re: Hate speech in Britain ...
Post by: Cavebear on May 12, 2018, 05:03:35 AM
Quote from: pr126 on May 11, 2018, 01:06:47 PM
I am convinced that only one religion will be protected.
No prizes for guessing it.

Mithraism?
Title: Re: Hate speech in Britain ...
Post by: Baruch on May 12, 2018, 07:31:23 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on May 12, 2018, 05:03:35 AM
Mithraism?

We can hope many Catholic Hispanics will move next to you.  And no, you may not criticize the Mara Salvatrucha ... that would be triggering.
Title: Re: Hate speech in Britain ...
Post by: Sal1981 on May 12, 2018, 08:46:44 AM
Count Dankula got a fine of 800£
Title: Re: Hate speech in Britain ...
Post by: Baruch on May 12, 2018, 12:18:39 PM
Quote from: Sal1981 on May 12, 2018, 08:46:44 AM
Count Dankula got a fine of 800£

That is only the beginning.  Thought crime ... New Speak ...
Title: Re: Hate speech in Britain ...
Post by: Jason78 on May 12, 2018, 12:40:03 PM
We've already got a law prohibiting threatening communications haven't we?
Title: Re: Hate speech in Britain ...
Post by: Baruch on May 12, 2018, 03:50:16 PM
Quote from: Jason78 on May 12, 2018, 12:40:03 PM
We've already got a law prohibiting threatening communications haven't we?

I feel threatened ... where are you ... so I can have you arrested! (sarc) ... Someone actually applied that to me already.  Commissars to the Left of me, Gruppenfuhrers to the Right of me.

We only need one law, maybe 10, why do we employ a legislature?

Don't lie, don't defraud, don't steal ... well to do that literally we have to end civilization.

And more importantly ... don't assault, don't rape, don't kill (people).  How will monkeys enforce laws?
Title: Re: Hate speech in Britain ...
Post by: Gilgamesh on May 12, 2018, 04:37:27 PM
I truly feel bad for any normal person who still resides on that god forsaken island.
Title: Re: Hate speech in Britain ...
Post by: Baruch on May 12, 2018, 05:09:18 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 12, 2018, 04:37:27 PM
I truly feel bad for any normal person who still resides on that god forsaken island.

Too many people, not enough territory ... that is why they invaded the whole world for 200 years, to get the young feral men out of town.  British army and navy.
Title: Re: Hate speech in Britain ...
Post by: Munch on May 12, 2018, 06:26:47 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 12, 2018, 04:37:27 PM
I truly feel bad for any normal person who still resides on that god forsaken island.

yeah its quite horrible here. A secular country, with a free health care service, benefits and multiple tescos within a stones throw from just about anywhere to are on this hellish island. Oh and the weather here, its just terrible! 25 degrees in summer to 0 degrees in winter average, I dunno how anyone could survive here! D:

(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/b1/0c/1e/b10c1ea6389f74ca658f16804b2f19fc--british-countryside-north-yorkshire.jpg)
(http://cdnwp.audiencemedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/300868-1-eng-GB_359-470x540.jpg)
(https://secure.i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01549/marmite-art_1549274c.jpg)
(https://media.giphy.com/media/NKBc1zpXB47Xa/giphy.gif)

The horror D:
Title: Re: Hate speech in Britain ...
Post by: Draconic Aiur on May 13, 2018, 12:45:38 AM
Since we are on thee Subject. Why in the hell are people still bowing down to royalty there? I mean Australia and Canada seem to do so as well. Tradition is a weak excuse because all have a government away from "royalty" that has plagued the Island since Kings and Queen government began. I mean its great in fantasy but never in truly advanced society can you have a sole power that controls everything. It seems like the "royalty" is being held like celebrities in America.
Title: Re: Hate speech in Britain ...
Post by: Jason78 on May 13, 2018, 01:06:05 AM
Quote from: Munch on May 12, 2018, 06:26:47 PM
yeah its quite horrible here. A secular country, with a free health care service, benefits and multiple tescos within a stones throw from just about anywhere to are on this hellish island. Oh and the weather here, its just terrible! 25 degrees in summer to 0 degrees in winter average, I dunno how anyone could survive here! D:

The horror D:


You forgot to mention how terrible it is not dodging bullets every day when you go to pick up the kids from school.
Title: Re: Hate speech in Britain ...
Post by: Mr.Obvious on May 13, 2018, 04:10:16 AM
Quote from: Munch on May 12, 2018, 06:26:47 PM
yeah its quite horrible here. A secular country, with a free health care service, benefits and multiple tescos within a stones throw from just about anywhere to are on this hellish island. Oh and the weather here, its just terrible! 25 degrees in summer to 0 degrees in winter average, I dunno how anyone could survive here! D:

(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/b1/0c/1e/b10c1ea6389f74ca658f16804b2f19fc--british-countryside-north-yorkshire.jpg)
(http://cdnwp.audiencemedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/300868-1-eng-GB_359-470x540.jpg)
(https://secure.i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01549/marmite-art_1549274c.jpg)
(https://media.giphy.com/media/NKBc1zpXB47Xa/giphy.gif)

The horror D:

I wanted to give you a like.
But then i saw te marmite. Ugh :p
Title: Re: Hate speech in Britain ...
Post by: Sorginak on May 13, 2018, 04:15:05 AM
From hate speech to yumminess. 

That's my kind of turn around.
Title: Re: Hate speech in Britain ...
Post by: Munch on May 13, 2018, 05:29:52 AM
Quote from: Draconic Aiur on May 13, 2018, 12:45:38 AM
Since we are on thee Subject. Why in the hell are people still bowing down to royalty there? I mean Australia and Canada seem to do so as well. Tradition is a weak excuse because all have a government away from "royalty" that has plagued the Island since Kings and Queen government began. I mean its great in fantasy but never in truly advanced society can you have a sole power that controls everything. It seems like the "royalty" is being held like celebrities in America.

Because, better to have someone like old betsy standing as a representative for the country and its ambassador, then having someone like trump get voted in as its prime ruler. Laws are passed only when she approves them, though she doesn't have anything to do with the day to day maintenance of said laws and affairs.
The system must be perfectly fine as it is, since our country hasn't collapsed into the sea.
Title: Re: Hate speech in Britain ...
Post by: SGOS on May 13, 2018, 08:33:37 AM
We don't have a monarchy, but we treat our president and his family like one.  There is the same kind of celebrity status ranging from respect to scorn.  They live in a big house and are conferred great wealth for the rest of their lives.  The president does do some work, but mostly he's sort of a puppet, and he gets to be an asshole.  It's even expected.  I know the Queen has a schedule and all, and I'm sure she is busy a lot of the time.  I have no ill will toward the Royal Family, but I've got to admit supporting a mostly powerless Monarchy seems oddly redundant if not downright unnecessary when you have a parliament that takes care of the business of state.  And the Monarchy is only that by birthright.  If you want to have an idle upper class that sucks up money like a vacuum, why entrust the selection to a single bloodline?  It seems strange, but in a cute sort of way.  And when it comes right down to it, there are more extravagant and unhelpful ways a country can spend the taxes.
Title: Re: Hate speech in Britain ...
Post by: Baruch on May 13, 2018, 11:33:18 AM
Tanistry ... is the way of selecting a monarch, from related cousins.  That is the dispute between Kings Duncan, MacBeth and Malcolm in old Scotland.  Unfortunately it breeds civil war.  I suspect MacBeth really killed Duncan over a blood feud.  And Malcolm was assisted by an Anglo-Saxon army (foreigners) as a quisling, shortly before the Norman invasion.

The opposite, primogeniture ... if you have a harem, breeds murder, as in the Ottoman Empire.  To become sultan you have to kill all your siblings (as it was in King David's court).
Title: Re: Hate speech in Britain ...
Post by: Gilgamesh on May 13, 2018, 01:34:39 PM
Quote from: Jason78 on May 13, 2018, 01:06:05 AM
You forgot to mention how terrible it is not dodging bullets every day when you go to pick up the kids from school.

UK crime, and especially violent crimes and murders, are increasing dramatically.

People wanting to murder other people is the problem; not guns. If you have a fucky culture then you will have murders, regardless of guns.

Quote from: Munch on May 12, 2018, 06:26:47 PM
yeah its quite horrible here. A secular country, with a free health care service, benefits and multiple tescos within a stones throw from just about anywhere to are on this hellish island. Oh and the weather here, its just terrible! 25 degrees in summer to 0 degrees in winter average, I dunno how anyone could survive here! D:

(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/b1/0c/1e/b10c1ea6389f74ca658f16804b2f19fc--british-countryside-north-yorkshire.jpg)
(http://cdnwp.audiencemedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/300868-1-eng-GB_359-470x540.jpg)
(https://secure.i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01549/marmite-art_1549274c.jpg)
(https://media.giphy.com/media/NKBc1zpXB47Xa/giphy.gif)

The horror D:


Yeah? Hows that tv license working out for you?

Shithole police state with evil sick fuck politicians who are pumping in mudslimes like crazy, who are in turn murdering your men and raping your women. But hey all good we'll just stop recording the ethnicity of rape perpetrators. Your police are instructed to go easy on these fucks but if you criticise islam online you get thrown in a cell. What a shithole. It needs to burn.

Title: Re: Hate speech in Britain ...
Post by: Munch on May 13, 2018, 02:40:57 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 13, 2018, 01:34:39 PM


Yeah? Hows that tv license working out for you?

Don't watch tv, just need an ISP.

Quote

Shithole police state with evil sick fuck politicians who are pumping in mudslimes like crazy, who are in turn murdering your men and raping your women. But hey all good we'll just stop recording the ethnicity of rape perpetrators. Your police are instructed to go easy on these fucks but if you criticise islam online you get thrown in a cell. What a shithole. It needs to burn.

Suppose the rest of Europe needs to burn too then?

Anywhere you go in the world will have bullshit to deal with, you just make the best of what you have in it, and I'm pretty content where I am in the world
Title: Re: Hate speech in Britain ...
Post by: Baruch on May 13, 2018, 03:35:57 PM
The US is a giant Southern plantation/Northern factory run by evil owners ... so how is that freedom working for us?  Either "get back in the field and pick more cotton", or "if you fall into the hot steel furnace we will dock your pay for ruining the carbon percentage of that batch of steel".
Title: Re: Hate speech in Britain ...
Post by: Jason78 on May 13, 2018, 03:45:44 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 13, 2018, 01:34:39 PM
UK crime, and especially violent crimes and murders, are increasing dramatically.

People wanting to murder other people is the problem; not guns. If you have a fucky culture then you will have murders, regardless of guns.

Yeah? Hows that tv license working out for you?

Shithole police state with evil sick fuck politicians who are pumping in mudslimes like crazy, who are in turn murdering your men and raping your women. But hey all good we'll just stop recording the ethnicity of rape perpetrators. Your police are instructed to go easy on these fucks but if you criticise islam online you get thrown in a cell. What a shithole. It needs to burn.

Have you ever even been anywhere near the UK? 

Our police officers don't need to routinely carry guns and your chances of being shot at school or a traffic stop are practically nil.

And if you do get shot, our NHS will heal you for free.   Even if you aren't a citizen.

How's the Trump replacement for Obamacare working out for you?

Make your payments every month, and even then you've got no guarantee of getting the treatment you need. 
Title: Re: Hate speech in Britain ...
Post by: Shiranu on May 13, 2018, 03:45:52 PM
Shit gilg, you got me 100% agreeing with Munch on a political/cultural thread.

That is both impressive and concerning.
Title: Re: Hate speech in Britain ...
Post by: Munch on May 13, 2018, 04:14:03 PM
Quote from: Mr.Obvious on May 13, 2018, 04:10:16 AM
I wanted to give you a like.
But then i saw te marmite. Ugh :p

give in... Giiiiive Iiiiiiin!

(https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/enhanced/webdr03/2013/9/12/7/anigif_enhanced-buzz-9100-1378985790-8.gif)

actually you know marmite might be one of those psychological things when by introduced at an early age makes one resistant to it. I can eat it fine, I gave it to my friend from denmark and he gagged on it.
Title: Re: Hate speech in Britain ...
Post by: Draconic Aiur on May 13, 2018, 05:17:10 PM
Quote from: Munch on May 13, 2018, 05:29:52 AM
Because, better to have someone like old betsy standing as a representative for the country and its ambassador, then having someone like trump get voted in as its prime ruler. Laws are passed only when she approves them, though she doesn't have anything to do with the day to day maintenance of said laws and affairs.
The system must be perfectly fine as it is, since our country hasn't collapsed into the sea.

And if you get a heir who is like King John the buffoon? Or how about such kings like Edward the II? America might pump out a tard like Trump, but even he cant be president for more than 8 years (I hope not thee whole 8 years). There is a reason also why wee have checks and balances. Even if we now have corruption in America time will decay that corruption because the people own the country, however in a government such as yours the monarch can claim the right to rule at anytime and demand loyalties of several big countries like Australia and Canada. I just dont understand why such devotion to an old regime of people that can say your rights are in the tip of my fingers.

Its slave or servant worship, thats what it is. It's like the motto of America: freedom but backwards.
Title: Re: Hate speech in Britain ...
Post by: Jason78 on May 13, 2018, 05:53:13 PM
Quote from: Draconic Aiur on May 13, 2018, 05:17:10 PM
And if you get a heir who is like King John the buffoon? Or how about such kings like Edward the II?

Well then it's lucky that they don't hold any position of any real power then isn't it?
Title: Re: Hate speech in Britain ...
Post by: Draconic Aiur on May 13, 2018, 06:01:16 PM
Quote from: Jason78 on May 13, 2018, 05:53:13 PM
Well then it's lucky that they don't hold any position of any real power then isn't it?

Well what if they were thee only heir?
Title: Re: Hate speech in Britain ...
Post by: Munch on May 13, 2018, 06:04:57 PM
Quote from: Draconic Aiur on May 13, 2018, 05:17:10 PM
And if you get a heir who is like King John the buffoon? Or how about such kings like Edward the II? America might pump out a tard like Trump, but even he cant be president for more than 8 years (I hope not thee whole 8 years). There is a reason also why wee have checks and balances. Even if we now have corruption in America time will decay that corruption because the people own the country, however in a government such as yours the monarch can claim the right to rule at anytime and demand loyalties of several big countries like Australia and Canada. I just dont understand why such devotion to an old regime of people that can say your rights are in the tip of my fingers.

Its slave or servant worship, thats what it is. It's like the motto of America: freedom but backwards.

you say that like people in the uk are slaves to monarchy. But we're not, sorry to disappoint you. You seem more bothered by the idea of royalty then I am about it, and its funny since I live in a country with a royal family. Also your pretty much governed by your own set of rule makers out of your control, the supreme court, who has people who can remain in it as long as they like.
Title: Re: Hate speech in Britain ...
Post by: Munch on May 13, 2018, 06:12:30 PM
Quote from: Draconic Aiur on May 13, 2018, 06:01:16 PM
Well what if they were thee only heir?

its funny when your sat at a computer on this forum, yet you can't look up the actual role the queen has.
We're not ruled by monarchy here, or theocracy, we're ruled by a secular system of government.

https://www.royal.uk/queen-and-government
QuoteThe Queen's role in Government
As Head of State The Queen has to remain strictly neutral with respect to political matters, unable to vote or stand for election, however Her Majesty does have important ceremonial and formal roles in relation to the government of the UK.

The formal phrase 'Queen in Parliament' is used to describe the British legislature, which consists of the Sovereign, the House of Lords and the House of Commons. The Queen's duties include opening each new session of Parliament, granting Royal Assent to legislation, and approving Orders and Proclamations through the Privy Council.

The Queen also has a special relationship with the Prime Minister, retaining the right to appoint and also meeting with him or her on a regular basis.

In addition to playing a specific role in the UK Parliament based in London, The Queen has formal roles with relation to the devolved assemblies of Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.
Title: Re: Hate speech in Britain ...
Post by: Baruch on May 13, 2018, 08:58:15 PM
The Queen gets to open Parliament ... in 2015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-k0iWV3TXQw

Of course the Parliament can ignore her ... too bad.
Title: Re: Hate speech in Britain ...
Post by: Draconic Aiur on May 13, 2018, 09:54:41 PM
Quoteyou say that like people in the uk are slaves to monarchy. But we're not, sorry to disappoint you. You seem more bothered by the idea of royalty then I am about it, and its funny since I live in a country with a royal family. Also your pretty much governed by your own set of rule makers out of your control, the supreme court, who has people who can remain in it as long as they like.

Of course I didn't vote for any of the shmucks, and like I said USA government is corrupted now. But the people can always tear that bridge down in time. I'm little bit bothered that the descendants of the people who ruled over my ancestors are still in power yes but mostly am baffled why are they still in power and why countries like Australia, Canada, and other countries rules by the British empire at one time are still loyal to the crown and how Britain still has royal people in power at this time in history.

Quote from: Munch on May 13, 2018, 06:12:30 PM
its funny when your sat at a computer on this forum, yet you can't look up the actual role the queen has.
We're not ruled by monarchy here, or theocracy, we're ruled by a secular system of government.

https://www.royal.uk/queen-and-government

Ah but your goverment can easily be converted back to a monarch. Prove me wrong.
Title: Re: Hate speech in Britain ...
Post by: Draconic Aiur on May 13, 2018, 10:04:03 PM
So I say slavery even tho both USA and Britain are very much ruled by the higher rich elite.
Title: Re: Hate speech in Britain ...
Post by: Gilgamesh on May 13, 2018, 10:43:46 PM
Quote from: Jason78 on May 13, 2018, 03:45:44 PM
Have you ever even been anywhere near the UK? 

Our police officers don't need to routinely carry guns and your chances of being shot at school or a traffic stop are practically nil.

And if you do get shot, our NHS will heal you for free.   Even if you aren't a citizen.

How's the Trump replacement for Obamacare working out for you?

Make your payments every month, and even then you've got no guarantee of getting the treatment you need. 

This has literally nothing to do with the assertion I made. Reading comp at a stronk 0.
Title: Re: Hate speech in Britain ...
Post by: Shiranu on May 13, 2018, 10:44:33 PM
QuoteAh but your goverment can easily be converted back to a monarch. Prove me wrong.

And the United States could become a Theocratic Catholic Dictatorship overnight. Prove me wrong.

Just because something can happen doesn't mean it is remotely like to.

The royal family are not running the UK by a longshot. There is no risk of them doing so any time soon. As it stands, all they serve to do is bring in millions upon millions of dollars into the English economy through tourism, international PR work and through things like the Crown Estate, which pulls in roughly $211 million a year in income for the House of Commons.

The Royal Family is both a cultural treasure and an economic gain for the UK. Hate that as you may, it is what it is.
Title: Re: Hate speech in Britain ...
Post by: Gilgamesh on May 13, 2018, 10:45:46 PM
Quote from: Munch on May 13, 2018, 02:40:57 PM

Suppose the rest of Europe needs to burn too then?

YES
Title: Re: Hate speech in Britain ...
Post by: Shiranu on May 13, 2018, 10:48:21 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 13, 2018, 10:45:46 PM
YES

>highest standard of living in the world
>highest levels of freedom in the world
>highest education quality in the world
>etc. etc. etc.

"Ew fuck it, brown people moved in! It's all been ruined!"
Title: Re: Hate speech in Britain ...
Post by: Baruch on May 13, 2018, 10:54:26 PM
Quote from: Shiranu on May 13, 2018, 10:48:21 PM
>highest standard of living in the world
>highest levels of freedom in the world
>highest education quality in the world
>etc. etc. etc.

"Ew fuck it, brown people moved in! It's all been ruined!"

Hatred of Europeans is traditional in the US, very Wasp.  Mostly hatred by former Europeans.  When we were still over there in Europe, we hated it then too, particularly if you were Irish.  In particular ... Spanish-American war against Spain, WW I, WW II and Cold War (Russian section).

Absolute monarchy by Louis XIV and Charles I ... did suck.  Already kingdoms were too big for one person to micromanage.  And biological inheritance constantly disappoints ;-(  But in the early modern period (not Medieval period) the nobility were the only ones who were educated.  Before 1950 it was like ... a peak of 5% of the population went to college.  Most people were illiterate 500 years ago, it took a long time to even get to 50% literacy.  The idea of peasant revolts (which is what happened to Leftists before the French Revolution) never got very far beyond Shakespeare quoting the English one as "first let's kill all the lawyers".
Title: Re: Hate speech in Britain ...
Post by: Gilgamesh on May 13, 2018, 11:10:23 PM
Quote from: Shiranu on May 13, 2018, 10:48:21 PM
>highest standard of living in the world
>highest levels of freedom in the world
>highest education quality in the world
>etc. etc. etc.

"Ew fuck it, brown people moved in! It's all been ruined!"

">highest standard of living in the world"

Subjective. Some people don't like being raped and murdered and banned from owning kitchen knives.

">highest levels of freedom in the world"

Blatantly wrong. The more legislation in place preventing you from doing things without being labeled a criminal by the state, the more non-free it is.

">highest education quality in the world"

What does this mean?





Title: Re: Hate speech in Britain ...
Post by: Shiranu on May 13, 2018, 11:56:51 PM
QuoteSubjective. Some people don't like being raped and murdered and banned from owning kitchen knives.

Sounds like you would love Europe then, with 8 of the top 10 least violent countries being located on the continent. In terms of murder, of the top 50 most violent cities in the world, the United States has 5 (behind only Mexico and Brasil) while Europe as an entire continent has zero. Since we are talking about the United Kingdom in this thread, we can compare the United States 3.9 homicides per 100k to the UK's 0.9 per 100k.

QuoteBlatantly wrong. The more legislation in place preventing you from doing things without being labeled a criminal by the state, the more non-free it is.

According to the  Vasquez & Porcnik , "Human Freedom Index", from the Frasier, Cato, IEA and several other institutions, of the 40 most free nations, 32 are in Europe in the world in terms of, " Rule of Law,  Security and Safety, Movement, Religion,  Association, Assembly, and Civil Society, Expression and Information,  Identity and Relationships, Size of Government, Legal System and Property Rights, Access to Sound Money, Freedom to Trade Internationally, and Regulation of Credit, Labor, and Business."

The United States is ranked 8 places bellow the United Kingdom, where I am happy to inform you that you don't require a license or anything crazy to own a kitchen knife.

QuoteWhat does this mean?

If you have to ask, you probably weren't educated in Europe.


I'm going to let you in a shocking little secret I have learned from interacting with Europeans on nearly a daily basis; if you land in London tomorrow, you are not going to be instantly jumped with a knife... nor if you go to Stockholm will you be gang raped or converted to Islam with a sword to your throat.

Those scary articles that tabloids post, about "no-go zones" and roving bands of Muslims converting people with swords to their throats or whatever? They are just that... tabloid articles.
Title: Re: Hate speech in Britain ...
Post by: Baruch on May 14, 2018, 07:08:28 AM
Quoting Soros or EU connected sources, does not Snopes make.  This is a potato vs potahto argument.  Pessimists vs optimists.

If you love Europe.  Great ... live there if you already do so, or move there if you don't.  Don't think Gilgamesh would even visit.
Title: Re: Hate speech in Britain ...
Post by: Jason78 on May 14, 2018, 01:13:38 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 13, 2018, 11:10:23 PM
Blatantly wrong. The more legislation in place preventing you from doing things without being labeled a criminal by the state, the more non-free it is.

Then why not live in an anarchy?   Total freedom!
Title: Re: Hate speech in Britain ...
Post by: Baruch on May 14, 2018, 06:13:04 PM
Quote from: Jason78 on May 14, 2018, 01:13:38 PM
Then why not live in an anarchy?   Total freedom!

All the sexy criminals say that ... but the cops are also anarchic ... if you are paying attention, as are the judges and politicians.
Title: Re: Hate speech in Britain ...
Post by: Cavebear on May 19, 2018, 07:55:22 AM
Quote from: Munch on May 12, 2018, 06:26:47 PM
yeah its quite horrible here. A secular country, with a free health care service, benefits and multiple tescos within a stones throw from just about anywhere to are on this hellish island. Oh and the weather here, its just terrible! 25 degrees in summer to 0 degrees in winter average, I dunno how anyone could survive here! D:

(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/b1/0c/1e/b10c1ea6389f74ca658f16804b2f19fc--british-countryside-north-yorkshire.jpg)
(http://cdnwp.audiencemedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/300868-1-eng-GB_359-470x540.jpg)
(https://secure.i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01549/marmite-art_1549274c.jpg)
(https://media.giphy.com/media/NKBc1zpXB47Xa/giphy.gif)

The horror D:

Its a hard life, but SOMEONE has to struggle though it!
Title: Re: Hate speech in Britain ...
Post by: Munch on May 19, 2018, 08:55:11 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on May 19, 2018, 07:55:22 AM
Its a hard life, but SOMEONE has to struggle though it!

Indeed I shall, I go forth, to butter my rolls and spread them with marmite, for the good of all!

Title: Re: Hate speech in Britain ...
Post by: Cavebear on May 19, 2018, 09:10:14 AM
Quote from: Munch on May 19, 2018, 08:55:11 AM
Indeed I shall, I go forth, to butter my rolls and spread them with marmite, for the good of all!

Brave you be, and let no woman tempting you with strawberry jam tear you asunder.  LOL!
Title: Re: Hate speech in Britain ...
Post by: Munch on May 19, 2018, 09:18:19 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on May 19, 2018, 09:10:14 AM
Brave you be, and let no woman tempting you with strawberry jam tear you asunder.  LOL!

(https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/business/2016/05/18/Patisserie-Valerie_3511781b_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqpJliwavx4coWFCaEkEsb3kvxIt-lGGWCWqwLa_RXJU8.jpg?imwidth=450)

Blast, the confectionery is strong in this one!

(https://www.designer-cakes.com/cakelife/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/cake-decorator.jpg)

NO SHE DEMON, THOU SHALL NOT TEMPT ME!!

Title: Re: Hate speech in Britain ...
Post by: pr126 on May 19, 2018, 09:43:14 AM
I have diabetes type 2.
My HBA1c is 45, 46, 48, 47 for the last 4years. The first test was 91.

1 x 500mg Glucophage per day.

I still bake cakes but using  Xylitol  (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xylitol) instead of sugar.



Title: Re: Hate speech in Britain ...
Post by: SGOS on May 19, 2018, 09:47:29 AM
Quote from: Munch on May 19, 2018, 08:55:11 AM
Indeed I shall, I go forth, to butter my rolls and spread them with marmite, for the good of all!
I have to ask if marmite makes you fart?  Not that I would discount it for that reason.
Title: Re: Hate speech in Britain ...
Post by: pr126 on May 19, 2018, 09:54:02 AM
Quote from: SGOS on May 19, 2018, 09:47:29 AM
I have to ask if marmite makes you fart?  Not that I would discount it for that reason.
Couldn't say. I don't buy it.

Australians have a similar concoction, called Vegemite.
A yeast product. Very salty, I think that is why [some] people like it.
Here (UK) it is spread on toast VERY thinly. I tried it once, not too bad.

Title: Re: Hate speech in Britain ...
Post by: SoldierofFortune on May 19, 2018, 10:09:12 AM
Quote from: Baruch on May 11, 2018, 01:08:00 PM
See, Wilson's War backfired.  The West used Jihadis to destroy the East.  But now the East wants revenge, so they are using our MO.
Who started and are provoking the war in the East? The answer is the West...
They are just people who are looking for somewhere to live after the war have destroyed their own home...
Title: Re: Hate speech in Britain ...
Post by: SoldierofFortune on May 19, 2018, 10:14:19 AM
Quote from: pr126 on May 19, 2018, 09:54:02 AM
Couldn't say. I don't buy it.

Australians have a similar concoction, called Vegemite.
A yeast product. Very salty, I think that is why [some] people like it.
Here (UK) it is spread on toast VERY thinly. I tried it once, not too bad.

As far as i know you are a refugee too but you are no easterner arab person. it doesnt make any difference.
By the way, i dont care refugees, i just want to indicate that you are wrong.
Title: Re: Hate speech in Britain ...
Post by: pr126 on May 19, 2018, 10:19:23 AM
Quote from: SoldierofFortune on May 19, 2018, 10:14:19 AM
As far as i know you are a refugee too but you are no easterner arab person. it doesnt make any difference.
By the way, i dont care refugees, i just want to indicate that you are wrong.

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Title: Re: Hate speech in Britain ...
Post by: SoldierofFortune on May 19, 2018, 10:26:29 AM
Once you said you are from middle europe and migrated to britain...
and you are fully assimilated...
Title: Re: Hate speech in Britain ...
Post by: Munch on May 19, 2018, 10:30:57 AM
Quote from: pr126 on May 19, 2018, 09:43:14 AM
I have diabetes type 2.
My HBA1c is 45, 46, 48, 47 for the last 4years. The first test was 91.

1 x 500mg Glucophage per day.

I still bake cakes but using  Xylitol  (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xylitol) instead of sugar.

heard of that. whats it like, any long term effects from using it?

I use to take aspartame but stopped after reading some of the long term problems with that, such as headaches, digestive problems, diabetic control and possible Alzheimer but their still trying to test it, I just gave up having it.
Title: Re: Hate speech in Britain ...
Post by: pr126 on May 19, 2018, 10:31:32 AM
Quote from: SoldierofFortune on May 19, 2018, 10:26:29 AM
Once you said you are from middle europe and migrated to britain...
and you are fully assimilated...
Correct. I left  Hungary 1956 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_Revolution_of_1956).
Arrived in the UK in 1970. Lived in the Middle East for 11 years, the 3 years in Switzerland.

Title: Re: Hate speech in Britain ...
Post by: SoldierofFortune on May 19, 2018, 10:38:34 AM
Quote from: pr126 on May 19, 2018, 10:31:32 AM
Correct. I left  Hungary 1956 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_Revolution_of_1956).
Arrived in the UK in 1970. Lived in the Middle East for 11 years, the 3 years in Switzerland.
So you are a refugee. ?
Title: Re: Hate speech in Britain ...
Post by: pr126 on May 19, 2018, 10:47:00 AM
Quote from: SoldierofFortune on May 19, 2018, 10:38:34 AM
So you are a refugee. ?
No, an  emigrant.  (https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=emigrant&rlz=1C1CHBD_enGB773GB773&oq=emigrant&aqs=chrome..69i57.3810j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8) Legally.
Title: Re: Hate speech in Britain ...
Post by: Baruch on May 19, 2018, 11:47:28 AM
Quote from: SoldierofFortune on May 19, 2018, 10:09:12 AM
Who started and are provoking the war in the East? The answer is the West...
They are just people who are looking for somewhere to live after the war have destroyed their own home...

So given the war in China in 1937, all Chinese should move the US, right?

Since human beings are always at war, that makes us all refugees, right?
Title: Re: Hate speech in Britain ...
Post by: Cavebear on May 19, 2018, 12:14:41 PM
Quote from: pr126 on May 19, 2018, 10:31:32 AM
Correct. I left  Hungary 1956 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_Revolution_of_1956).
Arrived in the UK in 1970. Lived in the Middle East for 11 years, the 3 years in Switzerland.

We disagree a lot, but I admire a well-travelled person...
Title: Re: Hate speech in Britain ...
Post by: Jason Harvestdancer on May 20, 2018, 01:06:19 AM
Count Dankula can easily afford this fine, even though it would be a lot for anyone else.  But he appealing it on principle.
Title: Re: Hate speech in Britain ...
Post by: Cavebear on May 22, 2018, 03:46:35 AM
Quote from: SoldierofFortune on May 19, 2018, 10:09:12 AM
Who started and are provoking the war in the East? The answer is the West...
They are just people who are looking for somewhere to live after the war have destroyed their own home...

A little history is needed here.  Europe left the Middle East alone until the Moslems butchered their way across Northern African Christian communities (convert or die, and most died), pushed into Christian Spain and Christian East Europe and destroyed Christian temples or converted them to Mosques. 

And I don't really care about Christians vs Moslems.  It's just history to me.

What offends my sense of logic is that, after the Christian Europeans finally got their military acts together beating back the Vikings who attacked them from the North and the Moslems who attacked them from the South West and East, they got condemned as "Crusaders" by the Moslems they slowly beat back.

Like "we can attack you, but if you attack us back, that is wrong"?

I always laugh at that.