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Title: NFL TO BAN CHEERLEADERS?
Post by: pr126 on April 20, 2018, 01:33:15 PM
Catholic puritans?

No, Marxist feminist against cheerleaders.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0wHSE34cbg
Title: Re: NFL TO BAN CHEERLEADERS?
Post by: Draconic Aiur on April 20, 2018, 01:50:17 PM
If they invoke to ban porn I would be even more offended
Title: Re: NFL TO BAN CHEERLEADERS?
Post by: Shiranu on April 20, 2018, 02:55:21 PM
Interesting that this story is coming out now, while multiple teams cheerleaders from across several leagues just started speaking out about sexual harassment within the industry and how it isn't treated seriously internally.

Also interesting how I cant find any news sources (not even sources like Brietbart or FOX are reporting this) to confirm that literally anyone important takes this seriously.

It's almost like there is a serious issue that certain parties want to bury under tabloid bullshit rather than address, so they create a controversy that no one actually supports to change the topic...

Nah. That could never happen...


Edit: Ah. I see the title of the thread and video don't actually match the content of the video. That explains why I cant find any sources.

So one person's opinion piece = the end of civilization as you know it is imminent.

Bloody snowflakes, triggered so easily nowadays. I think yall need to take some time off the internet.
Title: Re: NFL TO BAN CHEERLEADERS?
Post by: SGOS on April 20, 2018, 03:41:46 PM
I love cheer leaders.  They're are so pretty and buxom, and so damn proud of it.
Title: Re: NFL TO BAN CHEERLEADERS?
Post by: PickelledEggs on April 20, 2018, 03:42:38 PM
football is dumb anyway. Starcraft... now THAT is a sport.
Title: Re: NFL TO BAN CHEERLEADERS?
Post by: Baruch on April 20, 2018, 06:24:37 PM
Quote from: Shiranu on April 20, 2018, 02:55:21 PM
Interesting that this story is coming out now, while multiple teams cheerleaders from across several leagues just started speaking out about sexual harassment within the industry and how it isn't treated seriously internally.

Also interesting how I cant find any news sources (not even sources like Brietbart or FOX are reporting this) to confirm that literally anyone important takes this seriously.

It's almost like there is a serious issue that certain parties want to bury under tabloid bullshit rather than address, so they create a controversy that no one actually supports to change the topic...

Nah. That could never happen...


Edit: Ah. I see the title of the thread and video don't actually match the content of the video. That explains why I cant find any sources.

So one person's opinion piece = the end of civilization as you know it is imminent.

Bloody snowflakes, triggered so easily nowadays. I think yall need to take some time off the internet.

Actually they need to ban the athletes from sports, and keep the cheerleaders (male and female, your choice)!
Title: Re: NFL TO BAN CHEERLEADERS?
Post by: Hijiri Byakuren on April 20, 2018, 07:17:39 PM
There are some safety concerns when it comes to cheerleading, and I'm not just talking about sexual harassment. Broken bones and other injuries abound when you don't have any safety padding.

I'm not watching the video, though, because PR posted it and I'm not really in the mood for another rant about feminists under the bed.
Title: Re: NFL TO BAN CHEERLEADERS?
Post by: Shiranu on April 20, 2018, 07:24:07 PM
Quote from: Baruch on April 20, 2018, 06:24:37 PM
Actually they need to ban the athletes from sports, and keep the cheerleaders (male and female, your choice)!

I'm okay with this, at least with NFL.
Title: Re: NFL TO BAN CHEERLEADERS?
Post by: Baruch on April 20, 2018, 08:32:21 PM
Quote from: Hijiri Byakuren on April 20, 2018, 07:17:39 PM
There are some safety concerns when it comes to cheerleading, and I'm not just talking about sexual harassment. Broken bones and other injuries abound when you don't have any safety padding.

I'm not watching the video, though, because PR posted it and I'm not really in the mood for another rant about feminists under the bed.

So we should just go around wrapped in bubble wrap?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcYrcOvGfp0

I am triggered, if the bubble wrap is transparent, and there is a nearly naked girl inside ;-)
Title: Re: NFL TO BAN CHEERLEADERS?
Post by: Hydra009 on April 20, 2018, 09:03:13 PM
Quote from: Hijiri Byakuren on April 20, 2018, 07:17:39 PM
There are some safety concerns when it comes to cheerleading, and I'm not just talking about sexual harassment. Broken bones and other injuries abound when you don't have any safety padding.
Don't they use gym mats or something similar?  At least, I hope so.
Title: Re: NFL TO BAN CHEERLEADERS?
Post by: GSOgymrat on April 21, 2018, 12:21:10 AM
When I saw the video was Paul Joseph Watson I stopped watching. Paul Joseph Watson's style is so annoying I can't stomach it, same with Dusty "Cult of Dusty" Smith, Tomi Lahren, Nicole Arbor, Matthew Santoro and several others. Nothing they can say is worth sitting through their shtick.

I would be surprised if injuries resulting from cheerleading are anything close to the problem of chronic traumatic encephalopathy and other football-related injuries.
Title: Re: NFL TO BAN CHEERLEADERS?
Post by: SGOS on April 21, 2018, 08:26:52 AM
NFL TO BAN CHEERLEADERS:  REBUTTLE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83hoUxrflNk
Title: Re: NFL TO BAN CHEERLEADERS?
Post by: Munch on April 21, 2018, 08:29:56 AM
Quote from: GSOgymrat on April 21, 2018, 12:21:10 AM
When I saw the video was Paul Joseph Watson I stopped watching. Paul Joseph Watson's style is so annoying I can't stomach it, same with Dusty "Cult of Dusty" Smith, Tomi Lahren, Nicole Arbor, Matthew Santoro and several others. Nothing they can say is worth sitting through their shtick.

I would be surprised if injuries resulting from cheerleading are anything close to the problem of chronic traumatic encephalopathy and other football-related injuries.

Use to like dusty until he went a bit of the rails. Nicole Arbor is complete trash, Matthew Santoro is just goofy and weird but still watch him time to time.
Title: Re: NFL TO BAN CHEERLEADERS?
Post by: Poison Tree on April 21, 2018, 11:33:42 AM
Quote from: GSOgymrat on April 21, 2018, 12:21:10 AM
I would be surprised if injuries resulting from cheerleading are anything close to the problem of chronic traumatic encephalopathy and other football-related injuries.
From 1982  to 2009,  cheer-leading  accounted  for  65.0%  of  all direct catastrophic injuries to girl athletes at the high school level and 70.8% at the college level. (http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/pediatrics/early/2012/10/15/peds.2012-2480.full.pdf#page=4&zoom=auto,0,455) [page 3/968]

Direct by sport: For high school sports, football had the highest number of direct catastrophic events, followed by female cheerleading, baseball, wrestling, and male track and field (Table 4a).
Accounting for the number of participants in the sport, cheerleading, male gymnastics, football, and ice hockey had the highest rates per 100,000 participants (Figure 2, Table 9a).  Similar
results were observed when restricted to fatal events (Figure 1).

For college sports, football had the highest number of direct catastrophic events, followed by female cheerleading, baseball, and male track and field (Table 5a).  Accounting for the number
of participants in the sport, male gymnastics, female skiing, football, ice hockey, equestrian and male gymnastics had the highest rates per 100,000 participants (Figure 4, Table 9b).  Similar results were observed when restricted to fatal events (Figure 3).   (https://nccsir.unc.edu/files/2013/10/NCCSIR-34th-Annual-All-Sport-Report-1982_2016_FINAL.pdf) [page11/6]

Note that, especially in the second source, the method of collecting data is weak ["publicly available media reports"], and almost certainly exclude CTE and other later developing conditions.
Title: Re: NFL TO BAN CHEERLEADERS?
Post by: Mermaid on April 21, 2018, 11:37:13 AM
"Ugly, bitter feminists"?

Title: Re: NFL TO BAN CHEERLEADERS?
Post by: Baruch on April 21, 2018, 12:37:05 PM
Toxic motherhood ... keep everyone safe, by extending infancy indefinitely?
Title: Re: NFL TO BAN CHEERLEADERS?
Post by: Munch on April 21, 2018, 01:02:48 PM
Quote from: Baruch on April 21, 2018, 12:37:05 PM
Toxic motherhood ... keep everyone safe, by extending infancy indefinitely?


makes me think of this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXyBuIz7lE4
Title: Re: NFL TO BAN CHEERLEADERS?
Post by: PickelledEggs on April 21, 2018, 01:14:06 PM
Can I ask you a question @pr126 ? you live in the UK, right? why are you so OBSESSED with what goes on in the US? and also, what makes you think you have the proper knowledge of what is going on and the reasoning for it on this side of the Atlantic?
Title: Re: NFL TO BAN CHEERLEADERS?
Post by: Munch on April 21, 2018, 03:33:32 PM
Quote from: PickelledEggs on April 21, 2018, 01:14:06 PM
Can I ask you a question @pr126 ? you live in the UK, right? why are you so OBSESSED with what goes on in the US? and also, what makes you think you have the proper knowledge of what is going on and the reasoning for it on this side of the Atlantic?

Not like we haven't had people on these threads discuss laws and news from the UK or other countries, that's the same as me saying you guys from the US can't have an opinion on the migrant crisis over here, but seen plenty having an opinion of it
Title: Re: NFL TO BAN CHEERLEADERS?
Post by: PickelledEggs on April 21, 2018, 03:36:17 PM
Quote from: Munch on April 21, 2018, 03:33:32 PM
Not like we haven't had people on these threads discuss laws and news from the UK or other countries, that's the same as me saying you guys from the US can't have an opinion on the migrant crisis over here, but seen plenty having an opinion of it
we have had people discuss politics and current events from all cross the discuss about all across the globe. No one is as obsessed as PR is, though.

Nowhere in that post did I say you are not allowed an opinion, I simply asked a question.
Title: Re: NFL TO BAN CHEERLEADERS?
Post by: Baruch on April 21, 2018, 06:35:14 PM
Quote from: Munch on April 21, 2018, 03:33:32 PM
Not like we haven't had people on these threads discuss laws and news from the UK or other countries, that's the same as me saying you guys from the US can't have an opinion on the migrant crisis over here, but seen plenty having an opinion of it

I share sympathy, not knowledge, regarding the Brits.  I don't have an ideological axe to grind like some do ...

On other forums, I have had sympathy for Muslims living in the UK ... but they won't listen to anyone except their imam from SA.
Title: Re: NFL TO BAN CHEERLEADERS?
Post by: Jason78 on April 23, 2018, 01:31:36 PM
The only game that really requires cheerleaders is the game Blood Bowl.   

Because they give you a chance at an extra team re-roll.
Title: Re: NFL TO BAN CHEERLEADERS?
Post by: Cavebear on April 24, 2018, 12:59:16 AM
I read a newspaper article today about how cheerleaders must stay anonymous, can't be in the same club with a player, etc.  And even must leave at once if a player enters.  Weird. 

The whole situation is a bit sick.  The team owners are selling the cheerleaders as sexy, but limiting their professional skill resumes as very talented dancers. 
Title: Re: NFL TO BAN CHEERLEADERS?
Post by: Baruch on April 24, 2018, 06:34:31 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on April 24, 2018, 12:59:16 AM
I read a newspaper article today about how cheerleaders must stay anonymous, can't be in the same club with a player, etc.  And even must leave at once if a player enters.  Weird. 

The whole situation is a bit sick.  The team owners are selling the cheerleaders as sexy, but limiting their professional skill resumes as very talented dancers.

Most dancers don't have to make human pyramids (well in HS cheerleading anyway).  Are you anti-sex?  Must be Muslim.
Title: Re: NFL TO BAN CHEERLEADERS?
Post by: SGOS on April 24, 2018, 08:03:51 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on April 24, 2018, 12:59:16 AM
I read a newspaper article today about how cheerleaders must stay anonymous, can't be in the same club with a player, etc.  And even must leave at once if a player enters.  Weird. 

The whole situation is a bit sick.  The team owners are selling the cheerleaders as sexy, but limiting their professional skill resumes as very talented dancers. 
How about when that half naked woman walks around the ring carrying that big card with the number of the next round in a prize fight?  There's something deliciously perverse about the combination of sex and violence as she struts around on a mat full of blood splatters, sweat, and flem globs in her high heels.  The experience is heightened by how unnecessary her function is, as it's not that difficult for the average moron to remember the number of the round, and the fact that she is half naked performing a useless task suggests you should be looking at her body, not the announcement about what everyone already knows.

She says, "You could just give me a microphone and I could announce the round number from the press box," but no, she has to walk around naked keeping her mouth shut while holding a pointless card over her head.  It's like a sex break between rounds.  And it makes cheer leading seem family wholesome. 
Title: Re: NFL TO BAN CHEERLEADERS?
Post by: Cavebear on April 24, 2018, 10:32:30 AM
Quote from: SGOS on April 24, 2018, 08:03:51 AM
How about when that half naked woman walks around the ring carrying that big card with the number of the next round in a prize fight?  There's something deliciously perverse about the combination of sex and violence as she struts around on a mat full of blood splatters, sweat, and flem globs in her high heels.  The experience is heightened by how unnecessary her function is, as it's not that difficult for the average moron to remember the number of the round, and the fact that she is half naked performing a useless task suggests you should be looking at her body, not the announcement about what everyone already knows.

She says, "You could just give me a microphone and I could announce the round number from the press box," but no, she has to walk around naked keeping her mouth shut while holding a pointless card over her head.  It's like a sex break between rounds.  And it makes cheer leading seem family wholesome.

I don't disagree in the least...
Title: Re: NFL TO BAN CHEERLEADERS?
Post by: aitm on April 28, 2018, 10:26:38 AM
I think they should be allowed to do private cheers,,,in a room with no windows and then streamed for a fee to the few of u.....uh..people who would find that kind of perversity exciting.
Title: Re: NFL TO BAN CHEERLEADERS?
Post by: Baruch on April 28, 2018, 11:54:02 AM
Quote from: aitm on April 28, 2018, 10:26:38 AM
I think they should be allowed to do private cheers,,,in a room with no windows and then streamed for a fee to the few of u.....uh..people who would find that kind of perversity exciting.

Personal assistants are already doing this in audio.  When they go video (and you know you want constant video on you) we will have full "1984" and "Fahrenheit 451".  Just add "Brave New World" to taste.
Title: Re: NFL TO BAN CHEERLEADERS?
Post by: SGOS on April 28, 2018, 12:01:52 PM
In college, the most commonly shown porn was limited to titties, which was a big jump from cleavage years before.  I predicted that it would keep on advancing little by little.  We now expect to see assholes.  I have no more predictions, I can't imagine where we go from here.
Title: Re: NFL TO BAN CHEERLEADERS?
Post by: Baruch on April 28, 2018, 02:25:57 PM
Quote from: SGOS on April 28, 2018, 12:01:52 PM
In college, the most commonly shown porn was limited to titties, which was a big jump from cleavage years before.  I predicted that it would keep on advancing little by little.  We now expect to see assholes.  I have no more predictions, I can't imagine where we go from here.

I hope it isn't true ... that prurience leads to full nudity, leads to pedophilia, leads of snuff films.
Title: Re: NFL TO BAN CHEERLEADERS?
Post by: SGOS on April 28, 2018, 03:35:36 PM
Quote from: Baruch on April 28, 2018, 02:25:57 PM
I hope it isn't true ... that prurience leads to full nudity, leads to pedophilia, leads of snuff films.
I had the same thought.
Title: Re: NFL TO BAN CHEERLEADERS?
Post by: Baruch on April 28, 2018, 03:48:48 PM
Quote from: SGOS on April 28, 2018, 03:35:36 PM
I had the same thought.

That is how it worked with the Romans.  Must we advance to violent contests?  Oh .... hockey ... guess we already have.
Title: Re: NFL TO BAN CHEERLEADERS?
Post by: Unbeliever on April 28, 2018, 04:02:22 PM
Yeah, and after the snuff films they'll make chewing tobacco films...
Title: Re: NFL TO BAN CHEERLEADERS?
Post by: SGOS on April 28, 2018, 04:20:13 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on April 28, 2018, 04:02:22 PM
Yeah, and after the snuff films they'll make chewing tobacco films...
Here we go again.
Title: Re: NFL TO BAN CHEERLEADERS?
Post by: Baruch on April 29, 2018, 01:13:07 AM
Quote from: SGOS on April 28, 2018, 04:20:13 PM
Here we go again.

Is that you, Ronnie?
Title: Re: NFL TO BAN CHEERLEADERS?
Post by: Cavebear on May 01, 2018, 09:43:32 PM
While I think the cheerleaders argument that they equally represent the team is pretty weak, as they are just decorations, I think they have some rights about where they go and how they advertise their dancing skills professionally.  The NFL limitations are sexist.  Shouldn't it be equal that if one of the cheerleaders are at some party or bar, the male football players shouldn't be allowed in?
Title: Re: NFL TO BAN CHEERLEADERS?
Post by: Hydra009 on May 01, 2018, 10:12:26 PM
Quote from: Cavebear on May 01, 2018, 09:43:32 PM
While I think the cheerleaders argument that they equally represent the team is pretty weak, as they are just decorations, I think they have some rights about where they go and how they advertise their dancing skills professionally.
Yeah, that bugs me.  Either give them the field more often or give them their own venue.
Title: Re: NFL TO BAN CHEERLEADERS?
Post by: Cavebear on May 01, 2018, 10:25:39 PM
Quote from: Hydra009 on May 01, 2018, 10:12:26 PM
Yeah, that bugs me.  Either give them the field more often or give them their own venue.

Well, I had it more in mind that the cheerleaders should be able to attend parties unrelated to NFL events without leaving if SOME team player showed up and that they be able to advertise their dancing credentials.

But I don't accept their idea that they are equal representatives of the franchise.  The game is the players, not the cheerleaders.
Title: Re: NFL TO BAN CHEERLEADERS?
Post by: Hydra009 on May 01, 2018, 10:40:05 PM
Quote from: Cavebear on May 01, 2018, 10:25:39 PM
Well, I had it more in mind that the cheerleaders should be able to attend parties unrelated to NFL events without leaving if SOME team player showed up and that they be able to advertise their dancing credentials.

But I don't accept their idea that they are equal representatives of the franchise.  The game is the players, not the cheerleaders.
I agree with that, too.
Title: Re: NFL TO BAN CHEERLEADERS?
Post by: Cavebear on May 05, 2018, 03:31:53 AM
If the NFL ended the obviously sexist cheerleading squads, I would never notice. 
Title: Re: NFL TO BAN CHEERLEADERS?
Post by: pr126 on May 05, 2018, 03:37:44 AM
I always use NFL as an acronym for "not fucking likely".

Title: Re: NFL TO BAN CHEERLEADERS?
Post by: Cavebear on May 05, 2018, 07:10:12 AM
Quote from: pr126 on May 05, 2018, 03:37:44 AM
I always use NFL as an acronym for "not fucking likely".

Which says nothing about your opinion on the subject...  ;)
Title: Re: NFL TO BAN CHEERLEADERS?
Post by: Baruch on May 05, 2018, 09:35:08 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on May 05, 2018, 03:31:53 AM
If the NFL ended the obviously sexist cheerleading squads, I would never notice.

Some of the guys here are like that ;-)
Title: Re: NFL TO BAN CHEERLEADERS?
Post by: Baruch on May 05, 2018, 09:35:45 AM
Quote from: pr126 on May 05, 2018, 03:37:44 AM
I always use NFL as an acronym for "not fucking likely".

Rugby for cowards ;-)