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Title: FOX News: News You Can Trust (or Not)
Post by: SGOS on April 09, 2018, 11:19:59 AM
I got a kick out of this:  Fox News accidentally displayed a graphic showing it is the least trusted cable network.  The graphic that came up on screen showed results from another question, about what cable news outlets respondents trusted more. Fox News was last at 30%, behind CNN and MSNBC,

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2018/apr/09/fox-news-accidentally-displays-graphic-showing-it-is-least-trusted-cable-network



(https://i.imgur.com/ZoLWYw0.jpg)
Title: Re: FOX News: News You Can Trust (or Not)
Post by: Baruch on April 09, 2018, 01:01:50 PM
But irrelevant, since people's opinions of X are just ape grunts.

Trust = faith, something atheists aren't supposed to have.

I don't trust any single news outlet, I comparison shop, but never buy in.

I make up my own narrative, I don't let someone else do that for me.
Title: Re: FOX News: News You Can Trust (or Not)
Post by: SGOS on April 09, 2018, 01:30:20 PM
Yes opinions are ape grunts, but FOX accidently showed the ape grunts they didn't want you to see, while attempting to cherry pick the more desirable ape grunts of the same survey.  FOX was just trying to skew the grunts.  The article was more humorous than informative.  It's about the FOXflub, not what the apes are saying.
Title: Re: FOX News: News You Can Trust (or Not)
Post by: Unbeliever on April 09, 2018, 01:39:49 PM
Quote from: Baruch on April 09, 2018, 01:01:50 PM
Trust = faith, something atheists aren't supposed to have.
Atheists can have trust in various things, we just have no faith that a god exists.
QuoteI make up my own narrative, I don't let someone else do that for me.
Yeah, I've often noticed that...
Title: Re: FOX News: News You Can Trust (or Not)
Post by: Gilgamesh on April 09, 2018, 06:14:01 PM
Ironically by showing a graphic that conveys them to be untrustworthy, they committed an act of trustworthy journalism
Title: Re: FOX News: News You Can Trust (or Not)
Post by: GSOgymrat on April 09, 2018, 09:17:36 PM
Fox News host slams incorrect reports saying graphic showed network is least trusted

https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/the-fix/wp/2018/04/09/fox-news-host-slams-incorrect-reports-saying-graphic-showed-network-less-trusted-than-cnn-msnbc/

Fox News host Howard Kurtz blasted reports that said his Sunday show mistakenly posted a graphic that showed the cable network is less trusted than its competitors. ...

The three cable networks were not being compared to each other; instead, poll respondents were asked to compare each network to Trump as a trusted source of information.

Monmouth found that 30 percent of people trust Fox News more than they trust President Trump; 20 percent of poll respondents said trust the president more than they do the network. Thirty-seven percent said they trust both equally.

This is an obvious explanation: Fox’s viewership leans conservative, so it’s more likely to believe what Trump says â€" even more than its preferred cable news channel. That CNN and MSNBC viewers place more trust in their outlet over Trump is probably more a reflection of their viewers not trusting Trump rather than the relative quality of their journalism. ...
Title: Re: FOX News: News You Can Trust (or Not)
Post by: SGOS on April 09, 2018, 09:46:35 PM
That could be. And I did wonder how in the world that Trump stuff on the side with it's own percentages related to the rest of the graphic.  If Kurtz's defense was honest, I can chalk it off as just a poor graphic that begs to be misinterpreted.  Damit all.  Now I really don't know what the apes are really thinking, and I'll be a nervous wreck all day tomorrow and the next day.
Title: Re: FOX News: News You Can Trust (or Not)
Post by: Baruch on April 09, 2018, 10:18:26 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on April 09, 2018, 01:39:49 PM
Atheists can have trust in various things, we just have no faith that a god exists.Yeah, I've often noticed that...

Well you can always be someone's sock puppet ... if you like that sort of thing.

Of course Fox stuff is idiotic.  No contest there.

Gullibility is ... theistic neutral.
Title: Re: FOX News: News You Can Trust (or Not)
Post by: Baruch on April 09, 2018, 10:19:45 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on April 09, 2018, 06:14:01 PM
Ironically by showing a graphic that conveys them to be untrustworthy, they committed an act of trustworthy journalism

but ... they are clearly White Racist Nazi V-Alien Pedophilic Sub-Humans.  Right?
Title: Re: FOX News: News You Can Trust (or Not)
Post by: Baruch on April 09, 2018, 10:21:32 PM
Quote from: SGOS on April 09, 2018, 09:46:35 PM
That could be. And I did wonder how in the world that Trump stuff on the side with it's own percentages related to the rest of the graphic.  If Kurtz's defense was honest, I can chalk it off as just a poor graphic that begs to be misinterpreted.  Damit all.  Now I really don't know what the apes are really thinking, and I'll be a nervous wreck all day tomorrow and the next day.

Two things apes always think about ... the opposite sex and bananas ... sometimes both ...
Title: Re: FOX News: News You Can Trust (or Not)
Post by: SGOS on April 09, 2018, 10:26:09 PM
Quote from: Baruch on April 09, 2018, 10:21:32 PM
Two things apes always think about ... the opposite sex and bananas ... sometimes both ...
Well, that helps a little.
Title: Re: FOX News: News You Can Trust (or Not)
Post by: Baruch on April 09, 2018, 10:32:56 PM
Quote from: SGOS on April 09, 2018, 10:26:09 PM
Well, that helps a little.

If you win a Darwin award, it should mean, you managed to reproduce one or more half copies of yourself.
Title: Re: FOX News: News You Can Trust (or Not)
Post by: SoldierofFortune on April 10, 2018, 07:41:21 AM
The purpose of the media is to brainwash the people's mind and they are very successful at doing this.
There no longer is a free and independent medis to tell us the realities.
The media make us believe what they tell and almost all the people tend to believe what is told without questioning.
If the people had the ability of questioning, they was an opportunity to change the present world order.
Title: Re: FOX News: News You Can Trust (or Not)
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on April 10, 2018, 07:43:30 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on April 09, 2018, 06:14:01 PM
Ironically by showing a graphic that conveys them to be untrustworthy, they committed an act of trustworthy journalism
No, accidental journalism. If they had been paying attention that graphic wouldn't have been shown.
Title: Re: FOX News: News You Can Trust (or Not)
Post by: Baruch on April 10, 2018, 12:45:06 PM
Quote from: SoldierofFortune on April 10, 2018, 07:41:21 AM
The purpose of the media is to brainwash the people's mind and they are very successful at doing this.
There no longer is a free and independent medis to tell us the realities.
The media make us believe what they tell and almost all the people tend to believe what is told without questioning.
If the people had the ability of questioning, they was an opportunity to change the present world order.

This isn't new ... controlling the narrative was important since the 16th century once printing and literacy boomed.
Title: Re: FOX News: News You Can Trust (or Not)
Post by: Baruch on April 10, 2018, 12:45:46 PM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on April 10, 2018, 07:43:30 AM
No, accidental journalism. If they had been paying attention that graphic wouldn't have been shown.

Perhaps.  Usually graphs are used to mislead .. by clipping and rescaling.
Title: Re: FOX News: News You Can Trust (or Not)
Post by: Unbeliever on April 10, 2018, 01:18:01 PM
I think Walter Cronkite may still be the most trusted man in America, even though he's long gone.
Title: Re: FOX News: News You Can Trust (or Not)
Post by: Shiranu on April 10, 2018, 03:35:11 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on April 09, 2018, 06:14:01 PM
Ironically by showing a graphic that conveys them to be untrustworthy, they committed an act of trustworthy journalism

Well sheeeeeet...
Title: Re: FOX News: News You Can Trust (or Not)
Post by: Baruch on April 10, 2018, 07:39:19 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on April 10, 2018, 01:18:01 PM
I think Walter Cronkite may still be the most trusted man in America, even though he's long gone.

Trust is long gone.  When LBJ lost Cronkite, he lost Vietnam ... and when America lost Cronkite, we were only left with the followers of gonzo journalism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gonzo_journalism
Title: Re: FOX News: News You Can Trust (or Not)
Post by: Cavebear on April 13, 2018, 02:31:25 AM
Quote from: SoldierofFortune on April 10, 2018, 07:41:21 AM
The purpose of the media is to brainwash the people's mind and they are very successful at doing this.
There no longer is a free and independent medis to tell us the realities.
The media make us believe what they tell and almost all the people tend to believe what is told without questioning.
If the people had the ability of questioning, they was an opportunity to change the present world order.

When the facts are not in your favor, the only thing is to jump up rip off branches and yell and scream. 

Now, if you would like to discuss facts, I am full-willing.  But you better make sure they are actual facts and not just stuff you wish was true or we will tear you apart...