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Title: PZ Myers destroys Daniel Friedmann's YEC theory
Post by: josephpalazzo on June 17, 2013, 10:45:09 AM
PZ's masterful arguments cannot be missed.

Enjoy



http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... g-genesis/ (http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2013/06/16/the-key-to-understanding-genesis/)
Title: Re: PZ Myers destroys Daniel Friedmann's YEC theory
Post by: SGOS on June 17, 2013, 11:35:35 AM
From the link, I first read Friedmann's indented analysis, and I was OK with it.  However, I never checked the math because  I assumed Freidman had.  After all he does have some credentials.  I wrote it off to "interesting" coincidence.  LOL  

I assume he wrote that for the "choir members" who would not actually check dates and facts.  And hey, if it misses the actual dates here and there by a few billions of years give or take, well it does get the point across and does describe a time line of sorts.  Close enough for government work (or Christian purposes), as they say.

The problem is that it's got to be right (as opposed to spiritually inspiring) to be credible.   If it's wrong, as this one appears to be, it has no scientific value.  I enjoyed the read.  Thanks.
Title: Re: PZ Myers destroys Daniel Friedmann's YEC theory
Post by: Plu on June 17, 2013, 11:44:29 AM
It'd be wrong by default for the simple reason that Genesis mixed up the order in which the sun and the earth were created. Which is kind of a deal-breaker for any kind of scientific explanation.
Title: Re: PZ Myers destroys Daniel Friedmann's YEC theory
Post by: SGOS on June 17, 2013, 11:46:24 AM
Quote from: "Plu"It'd be wrong by default for the simple reason that Genesis mixed up the order in which the sun and the earth were created. Which is kind of a deal-breaker for any kind of scientific explanation.
Spoil sport.  You've got to learn to take reality with a grain of salt.  Otherwise, you'll never make this work.
Title: Re: PZ Myers destroys Daniel Friedmann's YEC theory
Post by: Solitary on June 17, 2013, 11:58:15 AM
Grazie per el info mi amico! I have a friend that is an engineering physicist that thinks the same way because it makes him feel good. How they can separate their rational thinking from their cave man thinking is beyond me. Ciao! Bill AKA Solitary
Title: Re: PZ Myers destroys Daniel Friedmann's YEC theory
Post by: Nonsensei on June 17, 2013, 12:53:09 PM
Surprised he has time to do anything other than try to make his atheism plus crap into something big.
Title: Re: PZ Myers destroys Daniel Friedmann's YEC theory
Post by: Jason78 on June 17, 2013, 01:29:10 PM
Quote from: "SGOS"
Quote from: "Plu"It'd be wrong by default for the simple reason that Genesis mixed up the order in which the sun and the earth were created. Which is kind of a deal-breaker for any kind of scientific explanation.
Spoil sport.  You've got to learn to take reality with a grain of salt.  Otherwise, you'll never make this work.

The Bible is definitive.  Reality is frequently inaccurate.

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